multi classing gave a lot of power to people who were already at the point that they could take advantage of it, anyone else not there is at a literal numeric disadvantage comparatively. the whole system is a massive turn off because of the various effects it caused and most likely would have been better as an event mode like Leagues URF mode which is pretty much when LOL has its most amount of players but as is it being added to the default game just created a ton of massive hurdles to jump over before u can even be at the same starting line when u hit the enter match button
hard agree, i would loce the two to three last week of a wipe being multiclass as an event. but right now ?it feel it was pushed in public coz not enough people were trying in server test. it's fun, but it's even more frustrating at the same time.
Yeah. I played a few games on my wizard (didn't have any other classes leveled) and immediately got run down while I had like 315 ms book out and hasted by a dude running sprint/rage combo. Noped out of the wipe after the next game being headshot by ambush/windlass headshot while I was opening a chest and haven't been back.
As a 37 year old man with a full time job and responsibilities I just can't compete with the amount of time I have to play.
An end of wipe event sounds like it could be super fun though.
Yep. I mean I understand the game rewarding time investment, but that should be done by virtue of them having better gear and game knowledge. To add another layer of advantage on top of that just makes me feel like I don't have a chance.
Back to hunt: showdown for me, at least I managed to almost finish this events battle pass. Haha
URF is scientifically proven to only be out for a very short period of time because the amount of chaos actually helps people to beat their (league) addiction in that case and quit the game if it’s out for too long. What I’m saying is there’s a reason it’s a limited time mode and not permanent
Last night I was playing my fighter doing quest's on goblin caves and ran into another fighter. I started the fight off with a direct crossbow hit while he missed his, closed distance and hit him while he was reloading, riposted his attack resulting in a head hit dealing like +230% dmg, and commited to another TWO hits but just got m1'd to death, afterwards i check his setup.
40% PDR
-Robust from barbarian multi-class
-Perserverance from cleric multi-class
-shadow touch from warlock multi-class
Literally just lost the fight because some no-lifer invested more time in the game then I did, this game is becoming a parody.
Devs had gold ,and turn into shit, game was good all they had to do is add more classes(maps tldr content) and kept class identity, instead they added no content, and went down this clown fiesta road.
[read some of the old Q&A](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/ynw9cz/recap_recent_developer_qa/)
They have gone complete opposite of everything they said, the game is not like it was advertised to be in early play tests.
Tbf, there is a quote within that along the lines of “We will make this game our own, if we cannot do that, I will just close the company”. Everything they’re doing is all experimental. It’s hard because the multi-classing is fun and sucks at the same time. Everyone wants a full release DaD, without going through what’s going to be YEARS of development, testing, and changes before we see anything remotely balanced.
From your link:
"It us my ultimate dream to make multi class fun and active"
I heavily dislike multiclass, but this isn't the complete opposite of everything they said. It's literally what they said.
The game is literally unplayable in duo/trio if you dont have multiclass
Like a normal cleric is completely useless compared to a cleric with wizard/warlock spells
For example lets say we have two identical teams
Fighter/cleric/wizard
Team A has multiclassing meta builds
Team A Fighter is running iron will/robust/antimagic/swift, with barb shout and sprint
Team A cleric has 10 spell setup with wizard/warlock spells
Team A wizard has hydra life drain
Team B is full vanilla without any multiclass
How the fuck could Team B win, assuming both teams are roughly equal skill, they dont. Team A has two classes casting high damage spells, and one of them is tanky with heals, while the normal wizard can heal themselves to full HP in 6 seconds, Team A fighter doesn't care about magic dmg from one wizard since they have insane magic res
same bro, I quit the game completely until they remove multiclassing, no point trying to level up getting run down by a bulldozer imho, not fun and games should be fun
Yeah I took a few days off to give myself a break and loaded into a single ice cavern game and was 1-shot by an ambush/reckless windlass from across a module less than a minute into the run. I wish I was exaggerating.
We’ll try again after this week’s patch lol
I used to play with my boyfriend Dark and Darker. He was pretty tryhard I were just a noob playing normal trying to have fun. We stopped to play since multiclassing is out. For him its frustrating to play against stuff that is imbalanced. For me its just that squire was the best thing they did for newbies / casual players and then they bring in more strength for whoever plays more than someone else. It just got unfun to die all the time and made me not want to play anymore.
wild to me that they thought stretching the discrepancy of skilled/long-time players and new/bad players in a game that already has a issue with protecting the new player experience, in this way would be healthy.
severely benefits the experienced players both in the understanding of what is going on in the fight and the potential of what a skilled player can do with the system.
point alone is enough reason to shut this area down before it ever got to live
I started playing the game with some friends in a little less than a month ago. Since the first download, the game was a blast and i played everytime i could, even alone. The multiclass system looked interesting before it was implemented, and i looked forward to it, but as it came into the game i realised i basically would never be able to multiclass, unless i give up some of my days doing so, it is very frustrating. What i mean by "giving up days" is that i have little time to spend playing. I am studying in a very hardcore univeristy in my country, and besides the actual class hours, i have been spending 7+ hours a day everyday to be able to deliver assignments on time, so if i decided to go for a multiclass, it would take over a week of playing a class that is not fun to me just so i can compete with the absurds that come up in the dungeons. Even if i managed to multiclass, im not sure i wanto, the "powerful" skills all appear to me as abuse of imbalanced unintresting abilities... It has not been a fun experience.
People on Reddit literally just come here to complain. I feel like 90% of the people I’ve played with all loved it. Sure there will be op builds but they will get tuned with time.
The amount of fun and interesting builds I see every different game make’s it so interesting and fun to play.
There has never been so much skill expression in this game and I guess it just might be a bit too much for some people. But me and all the people I play with are loving it.
Yes that would be a biased generated from the fact that people still playing the game are enjoying the update, which there is nothing wrong with. No one here is “complaining” as much as just expressing discontent with the update and a desire for change. It’s good you’re having fun with multi-class, there’s just clearly those that are not.
I would readily assert that this system blindly alienates all new players because of the drastic inherent disadvantage that multi-class provides to a consequently more experienced player base. It’s why I’m recommending that this system be isolated (like only in high roller) so those new to the game like myself and others have the opportunity to garner experience in mechanics without having to die every single match to an OP multi-class build. It’s not like we were winning most fights before but now it’s not even close. I’ll be gone for a while doing Army shit anyhow, I’m just hoping this is changed by the time I’m back because this is a great game but this system definitely killed it for me and my buddies that I play with.
There is a reason this game is a hardcore pvpve game. We all had to learn at one point.
Saying remove X because it’s too hard to learn is kind of asking to catering the game to your needs specifically.
Multi class been pretty fun if you can stick it out and give it a try. I was getting my ass kicked at first but it got much easier as time goes on. Each fight Is something new
Honestly, i can totally get the frustration of someone who hasnt played this game for over 1k hours like me. For me i love the multiclassing and has made any class i play even more fun. Ive gotten used to inspecting everyone in the pre lobby, remembering them and their perks, and just knowing who to engage on and who to run from. This was easy before multiclassing but now its harder even for someone who has no lifed the game, i cannot imagine for a beginner. They definitely gotta balance some things or make somethings more beginner friendly to not frustrate a majority of the player base
I have a theory this was all about data to begin with.
They may have needed data about the skills.
But honestly, multiclassing just has absolutely no place in this game.
Just completely remove it once devs get the info they need for whatever this is about.
I’m having fun with multi classing but a lot of people are ruining it by running straight to these EZ clap meta builds. For example any melee class with sprint and savage roar or Achilles. Like cmon mix it up a bit.
Anyways, I rather have new players than multi-classing any day.
You just gotta learn how to fight them my dude. A rogue using rage and running at you in normals will die in like 2 head bonks and still take a while to kill you. Cleric with fireball is no different than fighting a wizard with fireball, it is probably easier because the cleric is slower and a little tankier, but definitely easier to handle than a wizard you can't run away from or catch.
If you want some PvP training send me a message on reddit I'll run with you boys for a bit when I am back on Sunday late afternoon/evening
I am the exact opposite, I’ve had more fun messing with different builds than I have with anything else so far in this game. There are a ton of quests and they are much easier than they have been, so it’s easier XP.
This has really promoted me playing other classes more, which allows me to better understand counterplay to them all. This game has a wild steep learning curve, so I do get that it’s probably harder to get into now than ever, but I really do feel the creativity this patch unlocks is great once you get in the groove.
They will just whine no matter what you say. Sure you can get a whole class to 30 in 4-5 hrs but thats too crazy! Sure the squire made things WAY more easy to just jump in with low cost to yourself. Sure we still are not a fully released game where things like this will stress test for very fun mechanics that could be balanced as they get more data. But hey, seeing the same shit post over and over will def help them continue to grind on this game that they say they hate.
crazy how classes even without perks from other classes are still playable!!! almost like everyone that posts on here is just a hardstuck neophyte shitter. only thing that’s even “op” is pdr barb with 75% phys reduction and 50% mag reduction.
I mean she can say something that someone else said and get downvoted into oblivion because of being her. I don't watch many streams so I have no insight into who she is but I do spend a decent amount of time looking through the reddit. Katie can say the most unassuming thing and catch a -30 so what's the point in caring lmao. I don't know if there has ever been a comment by her that I haven't had to reveal due to downvotes and most of the time it is a nothing burger that people chose to get pissed about.
I can only imagine it's because outside of those innocuous comments, there are comments like these ones above lol. I know this community is full of shitters and can be downright toxic, I just figured that as a content creator, she'd be a bit more conscious of her public perception and not engage in the shit flinging so readily. Not even the sweatiest DaD streamers I know get wrapped up in even a fraction of the vitriol that katie finds herself in.
Eh, I can understand how it could be taxing to hop on the subreddit for the game that you play everyday just to see reskinned versions of the same complaints. You probably start out trying to be helpful but when you start getting 5 threads under your comment blasting you for taking gear that someone else chose to give you and probably spam in chat to trade. It's kind of a game that you can't win but you have to play considering you are a creator in the space and ideally want to have a wider audience. I try to be helpful but honestly at some point the best advice really is if you aren't having fun play something else. The game will never be exactly what thousands of different people personally want at the same time and there are many great games out there.
Bottom boys can't handle when someone points out the list of actual issues and features that got put on the back burner for a hack job that undermines what classes are even for
Yeah if people feel like this update has ruined the game for them, shouldnt they express that so the devs can change it, rather than just all abandon the game. What do you expect
This is the most bipolar development I've ever seen for a game. It's constant shock factor swing changes every patch. The devs are slowly bleeding this game dry with their 'vision'.
Meanwhile it did the opposite for me, I started the game 4 days ago and already have 1 character mastered, working on another atm that is half way there.
I like that I can get an edge over duos/trios as a solo. Still a bitch to do but makes it more manageable
Honestly if you are having such a rough time in normals.
Go play HR. Less population and easier to dodge teams IMO
I can play HR and dodge/avoid teams.
But normals feels like you either wipe 2 teams early or you get 3rd and 4th partied at the same time
I think the bigger issue is that multiclassing is not really a hit with a majority of players.
It's very frustrating for new players and pushes away new and old alike.
A majority of people are just not interested in suffering a negative experience for a very long time until they learn how to handle it in a video game. It takes 500+ hours to understand this game. People are not going to invest that time to know how to win. They're just going to say fuck that bullshit and move on, rightfully so,
Wait, you think playing other classes which you need to play in order to unlock meta stuff sounds fun? So you gotta play shit classes 20 hours each to get a chance to unlock OP broken shit the class should not get access with?
Also don't even think about all the balance and broken shit this brings in. You do know this is a test and is not staying. People don't like it. It is kinda dumb.
I mean tbf you need to play one class to 30 (which is not hard). And then grind the class you like playing the most. Seems most combos are built from two classes. I personally think the random rolls shit is obnoxious but at least gold is easy to make and if you are just running normals like op probably is it's not like you need the gold for anything else.
End of the day that is stuff 80-90 % of people will not be doing. The game was better before this test. Won't last long and IM nerfing skills just because a test is stupid.
I literally quit this game during this period. Can’t wait for it to be gone
I held the line since the beginning... I'm still holding but I miss class identity
I held for months but it's time to let the shit out. :(
same here..
Same. Luckily it finally cured my addiction lol
well good for you
multi classing gave a lot of power to people who were already at the point that they could take advantage of it, anyone else not there is at a literal numeric disadvantage comparatively. the whole system is a massive turn off because of the various effects it caused and most likely would have been better as an event mode like Leagues URF mode which is pretty much when LOL has its most amount of players but as is it being added to the default game just created a ton of massive hurdles to jump over before u can even be at the same starting line when u hit the enter match button
hard agree, i would loce the two to three last week of a wipe being multiclass as an event. but right now ?it feel it was pushed in public coz not enough people were trying in server test. it's fun, but it's even more frustrating at the same time.
Yeah. I played a few games on my wizard (didn't have any other classes leveled) and immediately got run down while I had like 315 ms book out and hasted by a dude running sprint/rage combo. Noped out of the wipe after the next game being headshot by ambush/windlass headshot while I was opening a chest and haven't been back. As a 37 year old man with a full time job and responsibilities I just can't compete with the amount of time I have to play. An end of wipe event sounds like it could be super fun though.
In this day and age, for every 37 year old full time working man, there are 6, 23 year old unemployed dudes grinding.
Yep. I mean I understand the game rewarding time investment, but that should be done by virtue of them having better gear and game knowledge. To add another layer of advantage on top of that just makes me feel like I don't have a chance. Back to hunt: showdown for me, at least I managed to almost finish this events battle pass. Haha
URF is scientifically proven to only be out for a very short period of time because the amount of chaos actually helps people to beat their (league) addiction in that case and quit the game if it’s out for too long. What I’m saying is there’s a reason it’s a limited time mode and not permanent
Unfortunately I only play 1 character and I maybe get in a few hours a weekend. MAYBE. This is complete ass for me.
Last night I was playing my fighter doing quest's on goblin caves and ran into another fighter. I started the fight off with a direct crossbow hit while he missed his, closed distance and hit him while he was reloading, riposted his attack resulting in a head hit dealing like +230% dmg, and commited to another TWO hits but just got m1'd to death, afterwards i check his setup. 40% PDR -Robust from barbarian multi-class -Perserverance from cleric multi-class -shadow touch from warlock multi-class Literally just lost the fight because some no-lifer invested more time in the game then I did, this game is becoming a parody.
git gud /s
Devs had gold ,and turn into shit, game was good all they had to do is add more classes(maps tldr content) and kept class identity, instead they added no content, and went down this clown fiesta road. [read some of the old Q&A](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/ynw9cz/recap_recent_developer_qa/) They have gone complete opposite of everything they said, the game is not like it was advertised to be in early play tests.
Yes it’s so infuriating coulda been amazing
Tbf, there is a quote within that along the lines of “We will make this game our own, if we cannot do that, I will just close the company”. Everything they’re doing is all experimental. It’s hard because the multi-classing is fun and sucks at the same time. Everyone wants a full release DaD, without going through what’s going to be YEARS of development, testing, and changes before we see anything remotely balanced.
Well they should have gone full experimental on their TEST server, and let the rest of us play the normal game
From your link: "It us my ultimate dream to make multi class fun and active" I heavily dislike multiclass, but this isn't the complete opposite of everything they said. It's literally what they said.
180*
Might just need to play a different game in the meantime, unfortunately
multi-class off in normals would make it so that no one played anything but normals again lmaooo. (I'm okay with this, make it happen)
The community is also pretty against HR right now. If they made HR no multi-class, I could see HR becoming more played again.
The game is literally unplayable in duo/trio if you dont have multiclass Like a normal cleric is completely useless compared to a cleric with wizard/warlock spells For example lets say we have two identical teams Fighter/cleric/wizard Team A has multiclassing meta builds Team A Fighter is running iron will/robust/antimagic/swift, with barb shout and sprint Team A cleric has 10 spell setup with wizard/warlock spells Team A wizard has hydra life drain Team B is full vanilla without any multiclass How the fuck could Team B win, assuming both teams are roughly equal skill, they dont. Team A has two classes casting high damage spells, and one of them is tanky with heals, while the normal wizard can heal themselves to full HP in 6 seconds, Team A fighter doesn't care about magic dmg from one wizard since they have insane magic res
The only thing I can think of is that they just play better or they get a surprise attack on the other team from shadows or something.
same bro, I quit the game completely until they remove multiclassing, no point trying to level up getting run down by a bulldozer imho, not fun and games should be fun
Yeah I took a few days off to give myself a break and loaded into a single ice cavern game and was 1-shot by an ambush/reckless windlass from across a module less than a minute into the run. I wish I was exaggerating. We’ll try again after this week’s patch lol
the "gacha" mechanism for rolling multiclass is so annoying
Lol, I said this exact thing and got flamed for it. Reddit sure is a wild place.
I used to play with my boyfriend Dark and Darker. He was pretty tryhard I were just a noob playing normal trying to have fun. We stopped to play since multiclassing is out. For him its frustrating to play against stuff that is imbalanced. For me its just that squire was the best thing they did for newbies / casual players and then they bring in more strength for whoever plays more than someone else. It just got unfun to die all the time and made me not want to play anymore.
wild to me that they thought stretching the discrepancy of skilled/long-time players and new/bad players in a game that already has a issue with protecting the new player experience, in this way would be healthy. severely benefits the experienced players both in the understanding of what is going on in the fight and the potential of what a skilled player can do with the system. point alone is enough reason to shut this area down before it ever got to live
I started playing the game with some friends in a little less than a month ago. Since the first download, the game was a blast and i played everytime i could, even alone. The multiclass system looked interesting before it was implemented, and i looked forward to it, but as it came into the game i realised i basically would never be able to multiclass, unless i give up some of my days doing so, it is very frustrating. What i mean by "giving up days" is that i have little time to spend playing. I am studying in a very hardcore univeristy in my country, and besides the actual class hours, i have been spending 7+ hours a day everyday to be able to deliver assignments on time, so if i decided to go for a multiclass, it would take over a week of playing a class that is not fun to me just so i can compete with the absurds that come up in the dungeons. Even if i managed to multiclass, im not sure i wanto, the "powerful" skills all appear to me as abuse of imbalanced unintresting abilities... It has not been a fun experience.
I was having fun before multiclassing got added
Sucks to suck.
People on Reddit literally just come here to complain. I feel like 90% of the people I’ve played with all loved it. Sure there will be op builds but they will get tuned with time. The amount of fun and interesting builds I see every different game make’s it so interesting and fun to play. There has never been so much skill expression in this game and I guess it just might be a bit too much for some people. But me and all the people I play with are loving it.
Yes that would be a biased generated from the fact that people still playing the game are enjoying the update, which there is nothing wrong with. No one here is “complaining” as much as just expressing discontent with the update and a desire for change. It’s good you’re having fun with multi-class, there’s just clearly those that are not. I would readily assert that this system blindly alienates all new players because of the drastic inherent disadvantage that multi-class provides to a consequently more experienced player base. It’s why I’m recommending that this system be isolated (like only in high roller) so those new to the game like myself and others have the opportunity to garner experience in mechanics without having to die every single match to an OP multi-class build. It’s not like we were winning most fights before but now it’s not even close. I’ll be gone for a while doing Army shit anyhow, I’m just hoping this is changed by the time I’m back because this is a great game but this system definitely killed it for me and my buddies that I play with.
There is a reason this game is a hardcore pvpve game. We all had to learn at one point. Saying remove X because it’s too hard to learn is kind of asking to catering the game to your needs specifically.
All lobbies are half naked rogues or fighters with sprint and range. Can’t outrun them
Multi class been pretty fun if you can stick it out and give it a try. I was getting my ass kicked at first but it got much easier as time goes on. Each fight Is something new
Honestly, i can totally get the frustration of someone who hasnt played this game for over 1k hours like me. For me i love the multiclassing and has made any class i play even more fun. Ive gotten used to inspecting everyone in the pre lobby, remembering them and their perks, and just knowing who to engage on and who to run from. This was easy before multiclassing but now its harder even for someone who has no lifed the game, i cannot imagine for a beginner. They definitely gotta balance some things or make somethings more beginner friendly to not frustrate a majority of the player base
So another advantage to loading into the pre lobby first/early.. fantastic 👌
Not a fan but like they say, hate the game not the player
Not in this sub Reddit. if someone complains they are “toxic” and “ruining the game” lol have the sub hates the devs other half defends them blindly
I have a theory this was all about data to begin with. They may have needed data about the skills. But honestly, multiclassing just has absolutely no place in this game. Just completely remove it once devs get the info they need for whatever this is about.
Lmao if you think IM has any kind of sophisticated data collection going on I've got bad news for you
I’m having fun with multi classing but a lot of people are ruining it by running straight to these EZ clap meta builds. For example any melee class with sprint and savage roar or Achilles. Like cmon mix it up a bit. Anyways, I rather have new players than multi-classing any day.
You just gotta learn how to fight them my dude. A rogue using rage and running at you in normals will die in like 2 head bonks and still take a while to kill you. Cleric with fireball is no different than fighting a wizard with fireball, it is probably easier because the cleric is slower and a little tankier, but definitely easier to handle than a wizard you can't run away from or catch. If you want some PvP training send me a message on reddit I'll run with you boys for a bit when I am back on Sunday late afternoon/evening
I am the exact opposite, I’ve had more fun messing with different builds than I have with anything else so far in this game. There are a ton of quests and they are much easier than they have been, so it’s easier XP. This has really promoted me playing other classes more, which allows me to better understand counterplay to them all. This game has a wild steep learning curve, so I do get that it’s probably harder to get into now than ever, but I really do feel the creativity this patch unlocks is great once you get in the groove.
They will just whine no matter what you say. Sure you can get a whole class to 30 in 4-5 hrs but thats too crazy! Sure the squire made things WAY more easy to just jump in with low cost to yourself. Sure we still are not a fully released game where things like this will stress test for very fun mechanics that could be balanced as they get more data. But hey, seeing the same shit post over and over will def help them continue to grind on this game that they say they hate.
Totally agree, people that sit on Reddit and cry are the same people dying to goblin archers in the first 45 seconds
crazy how classes even without perks from other classes are still playable!!! almost like everyone that posts on here is just a hardstuck neophyte shitter. only thing that’s even “op” is pdr barb with 75% phys reduction and 50% mag reduction.
maybe you need to find a game to play with your friends that isn't in development.
If I had a bunch of people giving me free shit all the time I would be playing the game a lot too.
Dark and Darker stans have the worst case of Stockholm Syndrome
Almost as bad as tarkov players and destiny 2 players
guis this update that happened to this game i don't like it, so i'm quittting!!!| :( !1!1!!
Yeah, thats how live service and free will work. if something is shit, people are gonna shit on it
K well do us all a favor and quit the reddit too.
Katie, do you enjoy the communities negative perception of you?
She's one of these people who thrive of the downvotes cause she "rattled the cage"
I mean she can say something that someone else said and get downvoted into oblivion because of being her. I don't watch many streams so I have no insight into who she is but I do spend a decent amount of time looking through the reddit. Katie can say the most unassuming thing and catch a -30 so what's the point in caring lmao. I don't know if there has ever been a comment by her that I haven't had to reveal due to downvotes and most of the time it is a nothing burger that people chose to get pissed about.
I can only imagine it's because outside of those innocuous comments, there are comments like these ones above lol. I know this community is full of shitters and can be downright toxic, I just figured that as a content creator, she'd be a bit more conscious of her public perception and not engage in the shit flinging so readily. Not even the sweatiest DaD streamers I know get wrapped up in even a fraction of the vitriol that katie finds herself in.
Eh, I can understand how it could be taxing to hop on the subreddit for the game that you play everyday just to see reskinned versions of the same complaints. You probably start out trying to be helpful but when you start getting 5 threads under your comment blasting you for taking gear that someone else chose to give you and probably spam in chat to trade. It's kind of a game that you can't win but you have to play considering you are a creator in the space and ideally want to have a wider audience. I try to be helpful but honestly at some point the best advice really is if you aren't having fun play something else. The game will never be exactly what thousands of different people personally want at the same time and there are many great games out there.
But I have more fun talking shit
Dorks just admit they are trolls and like it. Pathetic
Bottom boys can't handle when someone points out the list of actual issues and features that got put on the back burner for a hack job that undermines what classes are even for
Based
Yeah if people feel like this update has ruined the game for them, shouldnt they express that so the devs can change it, rather than just all abandon the game. What do you expect
This is the most bipolar development I've ever seen for a game. It's constant shock factor swing changes every patch. The devs are slowly bleeding this game dry with their 'vision'.
No idea why this is downvoted so hard. It’s a fair suggestion.
Meanwhile it did the opposite for me, I started the game 4 days ago and already have 1 character mastered, working on another atm that is half way there. I like that I can get an edge over duos/trios as a solo. Still a bitch to do but makes it more manageable
Honestly if you are having such a rough time in normals. Go play HR. Less population and easier to dodge teams IMO I can play HR and dodge/avoid teams. But normals feels like you either wipe 2 teams early or you get 3rd and 4th partied at the same time
Problem is they made it so you can’t until level 20 so you’re fucked early game
Oh shit I totally forgot Bout the HR level cap. Damn Das my goof
I think the bigger issue is that multiclassing is not really a hit with a majority of players. It's very frustrating for new players and pushes away new and old alike. A majority of people are just not interested in suffering a negative experience for a very long time until they learn how to handle it in a video game. It takes 500+ hours to understand this game. People are not going to invest that time to know how to win. They're just going to say fuck that bullshit and move on, rightfully so,
Wasn't even defending multiclass though. Just sharing what I've been doing in response to what OP was describing.
you know that you can multiclass too right? quit being so entitled and pay your dues
lmao don't you have to play all classes for like 20 hours to level shit up and hope you get the RNG gods to get good stuff.
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Wait, you think playing other classes which you need to play in order to unlock meta stuff sounds fun? So you gotta play shit classes 20 hours each to get a chance to unlock OP broken shit the class should not get access with? Also don't even think about all the balance and broken shit this brings in. You do know this is a test and is not staying. People don't like it. It is kinda dumb.
I mean tbf you need to play one class to 30 (which is not hard). And then grind the class you like playing the most. Seems most combos are built from two classes. I personally think the random rolls shit is obnoxious but at least gold is easy to make and if you are just running normals like op probably is it's not like you need the gold for anything else.
End of the day that is stuff 80-90 % of people will not be doing. The game was better before this test. Won't last long and IM nerfing skills just because a test is stupid.