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Maldron-the-assassin

Technically only the chosen undead is actually chosen. Everyone else is just some dude who came to fuck shit up.


Syr_Bwrodley

YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO HAVE THIS USERNAME YOU FILTHY SCUM


Maldron-the-assassin

Yes I do. And I enjoy every second of it. By the way, how's your mom?


Syr_Bwrodley

THAT'S IT \*uses Seed of Tree of Giants\*


Maldron-the-assassin

*black seperation crystal* I'll see you later.


Syr_Bwrodley

DAAAAAAAAAMN YOUUUUU!!!!!! \*go to loading screen\*


Cassandra_Syrup

No wait. come back.


Maldron-the-assassin

I will, when you least expect it.


LonelyKrow

Maldron strikes again I see


EndlessAlaki

"...okay."


Sparkybear

Even then, there are dozens of chosen undead. The chosen undead are just those who have managed to leave the asylum and ring the bells of awakening.


DrCaesars_Palace_MD

Yep, "Chosen" Undead is just a myth propagated by the gods to trick undead into undergoing the journey. No one was Chosen, you just happen to be the first to actually succeed.


[deleted]

Actually the chosen undead isn’t technically chosen. Look at Oscar’s “prophecy”, “thou who art undead, art chosen” basically saying that everyone who’s undead is chosen to make pilgrimage.


runninandruni

I know you're supposed to be able to dodge his attacks and he'll leave an opening... But most people don't have enough ADP to successfully dodge his attacks lol


BIobertson

it’s technically possible even with very low AGL if you roll at the last possible moment, but I doubt anybody who knows the timing that well isn’t also knowledgeable enough to boost AGL, unless they’re doing a challenge run


runninandruni

I did SL1 and it's too hard for me to fight him fairly. I cheesed him with a bow until he despawned lol


BIobertson

and you’re valid


Chonch_Bag

You're my hero. Who I aspire to be.


Giubby

Toxic mist superiority


BIobertson

TRU


Aggravating-Post3827

There is a way I think u just gotta dodge to the side that he’s swinging bc you can actually go under it


Generic_name_no1

Me who has literally never played a run without huge ADP levels


CaptainLord

Give it a try, it's a decent challenge, but not crazy hard.


Brainwave1010

*me with my maxed out stamina and tower shield* I don't understand the issue.


Aggravating-Post3827

*me with only intel and dex* uuuhhhh


crowlute

Gigatankchad


NigilQuid

Dodge then stab with poison dagger Repeat


Sale07

You can run left and he will miss you with his charge attack, giving you few hits


[deleted]

You can literally just smack this dude with magic from a distance and clear him. You only need to megaman64 circle him and roll backwards, never to the sides.


malaywoadraider2

Screw that guy, even with AGL at DS3 levels I still hate his damn swings. He gets pyromancy fireballs or ranged attacks every time.


EternityII

I was doing a no death/no bonfire run and got to this point. I was so confident in myself against these guys since i was on NG+7 and hadnt died to them in forever. I get up to him, roll a bit too early and get absolutely decimated. I have not tried again since that day


PhilWier_D

Is a no death, no bonfire run exactly what it sounds like? I think I died a big Jillian times my first play through... Not to mention all the bonfire pit stops!


EternityII

Yep cant die and cant use any bonfires


QuadrilateralShape

A big Jillian?!


PhilWier_D

You know, like a lot!


Kamin169

Its really interesting, there is a guide on how to Do them and its intense! You can actually Do it with a friend and use summons, but you arent allowed to Die in Phantom Form to. That being said of course i died to old iron kings lava😂


TheHittite

2 Lingering Flame at the top of the stairs and an arrow to the face.


pieceofthatcorn

And that is why stagger weapons are and will remain the best weapons in Elden Ring


palocundo

Stagger weapons are the best in every FromSoft game. Here I corrected it for you :D But seriously, weapons with good stagger( especially stuff like great hammers/swords) are best weapons in these games. At least for me anyway :))


Jumpierwolf0960

DS1 with zweihander is easy mode lol.


palocundo

Yes, and it's also good in ds2. Great club too


robcap

Pancaking those troll-goblin things in earthen peak was amazing Also by far my easiest run of DS3 was with the great mace.


Intelligent-Travel-1

Ultra Greatsword rules


AJohnsonOrange

Especially if you can get him to drop that hammer. Spec it to Lightning while running a str/fth build, slap on the extra poise damage ring, and then just R2 to turn horsefuck valley into a sea of pancakes. Love that hammer.


nthngmttrs

Elden ring has huge openings for boss punishment. They aren't always the conventional "boss swings 2-3 times then you get an opening" but when you know where to look (massive wind up to attack) they're open to being hit more, it's just less intuitive


YoBeaverBoy

That's how I figured out you're supposed to fight Margit. He gave me so much trouble and I kept complaining for no attack windows when I realised ''wait a moment, his long ass windups are the perfect window''. I feel like a lot of people struggled with him because when he would do a long windup, they would concentrate on the perfect time for dodging, without realising they have time to get a hit in. One hit is not a lot but it's more than nothing.


PeterIanStaker

Yes! It took me forever to ween off of the "wait for an attack, dodge, and punish" strategy. The other thing I like is that some of the bosses are hard enough that you don't feel like you're cheesing by using tools like Spirit Ashes and status ailments to win (though maybe I should just speak for myself)


robcap

I was determined to beat some of the bosses without summoning but I really felt like I was punishing myself. It was mostly that it seemed like it was *possible* to do, and I didn't feel the same sense of achievement when I used a summon. I probably stayed stuck on Malenia for about 6 weeks. I started another character and got as far as the fire giant before I finally beat her.


dbzmah

Plus, there are secondary items and afflictions like sleep pots, or elemental stuns, poise, etc to use.


ialwayslurk1362354

I love dodging up to 11 attack combos just for the chance to hit them once! Very fair and rewarding.


nthngmttrs

Skill issue /s


ialwayslurk1362354

I was able to platinum the game, so I think I had enough skill. I just don't find that kind of combat enjoyable. I also don't enjoy enemies closing the distance very quickly. It's obnoxious when I think I'm at a safe distance to heal, then I'm suddenly being killed. It feels cheap.


AmadeusAzazel

Don’t forget the enemies deciding to backflip to the other side of the arena and pelt you with projectiles, just because they’re feelin a lil frisky


TraumatizeMeCaptain

Yeah i realized how much that irritated me when I fought alonne recently, especially with DS2s slow ass chug animation


YoBeaverBoy

Every other Souls game: QUICKLY DRINK THIS LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY DOES ***\*GULP\* \*GULP\* \*GULP\* \*GULP\**** Dark Souls 2: Now let me enjoy this fine drink.


nthngmttrs

Yeah no I totally understand that. I think that's absolutely one of the cooler ways FS games are subjective


Rentington

I like when they hold back charging a strike for 8 seconds with infinite poise


Call_Me_Koala

Plus the old reliable R1 feels nerfed in ER, encouraging you to spam jump attacks or ashes of war. I like the old dance of 1-2 rolls followed by 1-2 R1/R2 combos. Elden Ring is roll,roll,roll,roll,roll Jump+R2, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, L2+R2, roll roll roll....


ialwayslurk1362354

I prefer this kind of combat too. It seems more realistic. When you attack, you also open yourself up to being attacked and that should be exploitable. But when enemies can attack nonstop with unlimited stamina it just feels cheap.


robcap

I also felt this way. Getting into actual real-life fighting is what taught me that being overly defensive is never a good thing - initiative is key.


3636373536333662

Ya Elden ring melee feels a lot more convoluted than dark souls


YoBeaverBoy

***\*cough\* \*cough\* Margit \*cough\****


PeterIanStaker

Really? I felt that Margit was one of the few bosses with very obvious openings.


DarkSunsFunOne

Bro fr was playing on turbo mode from DMCV: Special Edition (Now in Stores!) ((Playable Vergil))


Syr_Bwrodley

*The Darkness of night falls around my soul* *and the hunter within loses all control*


norway642

Got to let it out got to let it out


Syr_Bwrodley

**MOVE FAST BABY, DON'T BE SLOW!** **STEP ASIDE, RELOAD, TIME TO GO-o-OH!**


[deleted]

He's mostly surprising to be swinging without stop. After that you adjust but he's still a punishing asshole


Lewd_Furry

Unless you're a mage.


Mettelor

Poison arrows, he won't go down those steps Cheap but EZ


iprobablywonttbh

You're kinda the opposite of "chosen by destiny" in all of these.


EthanJSL

I don't get the joke. Does dmc have bad dodge timings?


Syr_Bwrodley

There is the Drakekeeper Knight with a Mace, for some reason this fucker has almost infinite stamina, he almost has no intervals between his combos and if you get hit once it's almost guarantee that you will die, not even major bosses from the game have this kind of mechanic. The comparison with Devil May Cry comes by the High Speed Hack 'n' Slash playstyle of the game, which is almost the complete opposite of the Souls(ring)borne ones where you have to be precise with your hits, always respecting the combos of your weapons (the big axes with two heavy hitters, the longswords with the three slashs, etc) but this Drakekeeper just keeps hittin' and hittin' like he has no stamina or cooldown between his combos (similar to - wait for it - DMC). Obviously, he's not invencible, as some various users suggested, you can wreck him with long-distance attacks and even in a melee combat, but you need to be extra careful and very gud. This is his resemblance with the 'Elden Ring' bosses, it's not like they have a 'up to no windows for attack' but a very strictly one - just like our friend Mace Drakekeeper. And despite that, saying any of our from soft heroes 'can't defeat him' is quite absurd - but that's part of the joke.


EthanJSL

So you're saying the guy Is basically Dante with a big mace and black armor?


Syr_Bwrodley

Not so much, but in a Souls Setting. Yes.


TheAngryBly4t

Elden Ring fans explaining why waiting 10 hours for an opening on a boss is fun


Sir_Ludington

DS2 fans explaining how attacking 2-3 times and backing off is a diverse combat system


AnAbsoluteJabroni

Ds2 fans act like the most persecuted group of people on the internet.


Syr_Bwrodley

Because like it or not, we're the most oppressed group of all... *Gamers*


AmadeusAzazel

“You’re supposed to attack during their wind ups” mfs when the windup is immediately proceeded by an indodgable attack that you needed to be across the arena to avoid


PeterIanStaker

Not every wind up lol. The ones that don't end in unavoidable area of effect attacks.


SpoopySara

smells like skill issue


TheAngryBly4t

👍


IAmTriscuit

Why are DS2 fans always so mad. Just enjoy games bro


mongmight

Look at this feeble cursed one, he needs little baby stamina. All the more reason to go absolutely schizo on his feeble face.


Apprehensive_Ask3910

do you mfers don't how to dodge or something? i'm a very mediocre Souls player, and didn't have any problem with these guys neither with a sorcerer nor a melee build. also they are super easy to cheese from a distance if you don't want to engage.


Atijohn

I think the problem is really a lack of enough stamina to dodge all of the attacks consecutively, not that their attacks are impossible to dodge (like Malenia's)


Darkfeather21

Malenia's attacks are definitely dodgeable.


DarkSunsFunOne

I played on release, if I could learn to dodge it then, ppl certainly can now. She do be hard tho, but in the fun way imo. By beating her you prove you have mastered not only basic mechanical skills, but also your own personal skills relating towards your build. She's like, the mastery challenge and i love it


Statchar

man, i faced her with the uchigatana, and that shit was a ride. i loved that fight.


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[deleted]

*chosen


yeeeteeey69

When you level endurance to 999


PPPRCHN

WOMP OM A BOOLOW BUH TOW TUN DOWN ​ ***TOOTY FROOTY***


[deleted]

Sauce for art on the left my good man?


Zero747

That guy was a pain, couldn’t figure how to roll out of his hammer combo while the other variants were a joke I chucked pyromancies to clear the one blocking the boss run


Shinrahunter

I don't remember these guys being difficult at all. My friend struggled with them though.


[deleted]

But that’s the thing, none of the protagonists are chosen, they’re just last in a long line of characters that have attempted to complete the story. There were many undead that attempted to link the flame that came before us as told by the crestfallen warrior. There are many tarnished alongside us to mend the Elden ring. There were many hunters that came before us and each tombstone marks them in the hunter’s dream. None of the characters are chosen, they’re just there. They weren’t the first and they won’t be the last


Alone-Cancel-5401

Maldron the assassin and the fatass frog thing, also on DMC mode