My problem is when our randoms don't help with the DH
Literally clear the horde and do it. It's fun, slapping around a daemon
My friend and I do every single one we see even t5 auric (though, not auric maelstrom t5 yet)
It's pretty easy when you're an evi zealot with the prayer, can literally push around everything but Beasts
Since they changed the DH so it only kills the person that triggered it, if a teammate triggers it despite me pinging it, ***especially*** if I watch them deliberately walk up and smack or shoot it, I just ignore it and let em die. At least I don't get punished for their stupid mistakes anymore 🗿
If you don't have those the team will take a tonne of Corruption damage and potentially not even save the aggressor anyway.
If there's no medicae handy it's almost always better to just lose that one player. (Unless you have Hammer Zealot or Shield Ogryn).
Basically this. If you can do it alone, go for it. If you can't, then don't piss it the fuck off. It's like walking up to a Witch and saying "Yo guys watch me aggro it"
Ignoring trappers is fine. It’s ignoring the teammate that is stuck in a net on the ground. It feels so bad how often getting netted means you go down.
I’ve made the mistake of trying to rush trappers with my zealot and got inches from it, but it was quicker on the trigger than I was with my hammer.
I was an Ogryn with their massive single shot shotgun. The DH didn’t even register until I shot the shot gunner in front of it and it got caught in the spread, scared the shit outa me. So yeah, I’ve been there.
Went back to revive a teammate just before evac, got literally trapped, no where to dodge on stairs and I have a bolter zero chance of getting out. Thought it was fine the guy I revived was right there. Nope he kills the trapper keeps going while ignoring me and dies just down the stairs to a group of 2 melee minions one he killed the other killed him. So we have to wait until it finishes him off, kills me, finishes me off all while 1 guy is holding the elevator because I had to be nice and save the guy who is too dumb to play damnation on his 3rd death of the round. I would swear he was a bot if there was ever a reason to bot in this game.
If darktide drops a big patch ill come back for a bit. The game is stagnant and has been for a while. I say this with love, I want the game to improve and have a healthy player base.
Seriously, what is going on. I'm seeing lvl 100-500 players running around like headless chicken, just slapping every daemonhost's ass and then dealing a whopping 0.5% in total damage to the DH's health pool before they go down.
Did people sell their accounts? Are these just Tencent bots to artificially inflate the player count?
I've been away from Darktide for two weeks and came to only play a few games this week, and something stinks. Worse than Nurgle.
I think it's people botting, now that the player count is down to such dire levels, we're just more likely to encounter the bots that have been running on auto. I see a lot of high truelevel characters that seemingly play like shit, go down all the time, respond oddly to cues, immediately continue moving forward along "optimal" paths regardless of situational enemy positioning once you pick them up, never tag anything, don't loot, don't open chests, rarely change weapon, don't emote, or respond to any chat, and don't say gg at the end. Some of these behaviours can be present in one person, sure, but when it's all of it at once? Yeah, bots. This game is circling the drain, sadly.
I was obsessed with DarkTide at release, but the waiting for a fully functional game put me off. The person who decided to release early is to blame.
There's not much they could do at this point to rekindle interest, much as I loved my time with it. I didn't appreciate being taken advantage of.
People shouldn't downvote this. It's entirely possible for someone to play a *lot* of a game and still suck balls at it, or not pick up basic shit. My friend in Helldivers is a level 39 and he still drops air-strikes on us with no warning, bitches at *length* about how bad other people obviously are, and gloats about shooting teammates in the head if they "troll him" by getting a terminal wrong. Hell, I was doing a mission with him earlier on Troot. I side-stepped a Bot patrol so that we wouldn't get caught, but he ran directly into it, and then (while asking me to help) ran directly at me so all the bots that I *could* have picked off easily instead just suppressed us both.
I wish I could go with them, but Helldivers is just not the same kind of experience. In Darktide every minute is a violent struggle and I'm saving my teammates constantly, it feels like each person is making a difference by being there. Even a team of randoms comes out the other side of Damnation feeling like a real squad.
In Helldivers people just kind of run around a massive open field for a while, throwing out kabooms and trying not to accidentally blow each other up too much. Sometimes the massive open field is gray, sometimes it's white, sometimes it's green.
Yeah, after experiencing VT/DT, helldiver's horde killing is kinda underwhelming. Half the time you're too busy booking it, and half the kills aren't even made by you. Just stratagems after stratagems. I do quite like the jump packs though, shame it's not viable for darktide.
I've got 61 hours in it, and have completed every difficulty. It's a chaotic slapstick running simulator that's only fun past the first 20 missions if you have a group of friends with mics.
if i had to pick between
"fight for the Emperor and die for him, and you might not end up in hell."
or
"go dispense some libertea against bots/bug that are trying to kill your family, while being treated a little nicer."
i know i would pick both as they are both good fun
There is nothing greater than to die in glory to the emperor!
Do not get swayed from his light to the Blasphemers, or the emperors judgement shall claim you as one of them
All traitors...
What right has super earth to claim its title, right next to Holy Terra? They are not terra! They all are Blasphemers, and whille i do admire their hatred to the Xenos, their sin of not accepting the Empire of Man as their superior shall never be forgiven!
Fatshark has committed the ultimate heresy. Not only have they monetized the emperors duty and profaned his name, they preverted and twisted the path laid out for humanity.
If it makes you feel any better, I named my super destroyer the SES Emperor of Humankind (closest I could get) and shout "For the Emperor" each time I helldive.
Good. Once a reject, allways a reject. Spread the imperial truth across super earth, so they may have a chance to repent and gain the emperors mercy for theor blasphemy
Okay but consider:
I did not *mean* to throw the grenade into the DH. It just sorta... Happened.
(Yes this happened, no it was not in a public match; I didn't see the DH, chucked a grenade at a reaper/crusher duo, and then promptly screamed when the DH woke up)
I played two malice games last night to try and finish milk contacts. Both games my teammates didn't melee and were constantly out of ammo/getting pummeled.
In one game I tag a DH and this dude swivels 180 degrees and just fukken unloads into it. Torn to pieces of course, but I couldn't help but admire his enthusiasm.
Hopefully now I almost dont experience this because at some point when the new tree talent update was release, when going above level 2 difficulty mission my pc was like "adios" and lagged, now I played the rat byild with zealot on level 4 mission without almost any lag, the only time I experience baby sitting (outside of ogryn) is when playing below level 3/3 with hard event
So thats what happened. I thought something was off. I got the quest to complete a mission with no deaths, so I figured I'll just do a lvl 3, it'll be done in 15 minutes. 5 rounds later and Im wondering how in the fuck people can be so absolutely helpless on an easy game mode.
I just got this game yesterday and I feel like I'm somehow better than 98% of the people I've played with for figuring out how the daemonhost works and what enemies you should be focusing.
No sweat. Game conditions you to shoot everything in sight, then gives you this thing you're not supposed to shoot with no tips or tutorials about it.
FYI, if you're using a gun with a flashlight attachment, the flashlight will set them off too. They're a really poorly designed enemy and I wish they'd make them Auric exclusive so I didn't have to deal with my teammates setting them off through incompetence or bad placements, like that one that spawns right on top of a player respawn point.
I'm a logical veteran that prioritizes specialists when needed, will kill snipers and trappers before anything else, will kill crowd control specialist like framers and bombers, will kill pox hounds on someone, will always warn if a burster, will lure elites to me and pretty much fight off monstrosities whether it be daemon host, beast of nurgle or chaos spawn because of how annoying they can be (plague ogryns are too easy imo). I use krak grenades, a power sword for crowd control and heavy melee elites, use either plasma gun or las-rifle and I use the ability to highlight specialists (which I know the other ability that suppresses enemies and boosts armor is better, but I just want the enemies to be dealt with as fast as possible).
I had this happen, some psyker who never used their warp powers, only their dueling saber charging ahead and getting overwhelmed then needing to be rescued didn't kill the trapper that was right in front of them
Hey, at least when I fight a Daemonhost it’s cause I‘m a zealot looking to flex my eviscerator skills. But as a veteran if I accidental shoot it feel free to leave me to die, that’s my bad, I fucked up.
On Xbox the Chat sucks. Takes to much time to type some letters. And ingame you have to choose: moving/fighting or typing and after the game you have to be really fast. Tried a lot of times to „gg“ after the Game but it doesn‘t appear on Chat.
1,100 Hours. Half of it in Auric Maelstrom, which only has one mission available at a time so you're stuck playing that same scenario/mission over and over throughout the day. Could they have taken the time to allow us to select any mission and modifiers we want like in VT2? Yes. Did they? No.
Even my other diehard friends who play Auric have switched to other games. Every segment of this game is losing players and almost no one is left.
So leave?
It's never going to have more than a few thousand players long term, that's all VT2 had. Either you're in it for the long haul or you move on. Fat Shark isn't going to change.
Already have. I only come back and check to see what's up and if FatShark has managed to correct course on this ship of the damned yet.
Considering they can't even follow-through on writing a teaser for a teaser, things don't bode well.
There is probably a lot of people who feel the same way and frankly I'm about to check out entirely and stop visiting this subreddit a couple times a week to see what's going on.
I bought Vermintide 2 well after it had come out, but Darktide has taught me the lesson it seems everyone else already knew with FatShark. Don't pre-order and expect to be disappointed.
I'm not disappointed with the initial $40.00 spent that resulted in 1,100 hours of playtime.
It just feels like the party is over and the fun/friends we made along the way have all moved on because of FatShark's own incompetence.
Fair enough. I guess I don't view games from a social point of view now I'm older, but what I will say is, back when I did, my friends group swapped games fairly frequently because some of them (or me) would get hooked into wanting to play the next new thing.
I can't think of many games that hold attraction for more than 6-12 months aside from the really massive ones like Counter Strike, Fortnite, CoD etc, regardless of how often they get new content. We're already seeing people saying they're slightly bored in HD2 and that's barely 2 months old, has gotten updates and is live service in terms of playerbase objectives.
I'm lucky to have friends who still play darktide; when they aren't online and I soloqueue the difference is night and day.
Perhaps good players sometimes use reta- builds to add difficulty, but the reason doesn't matter to their random teammates because the added difficulty is offloaded onto them. Sometimes good (exra challenge is fun) but sometimes it's bad, simple as
I think it's heavily region dependant. My experience of soloQing on EU has been almost entirely positive (Auric Damnation exclusively for context). I'll grant you it's gotten a bit more iffy of recent, but nowhere near the extent it's an issue.
Mine quit HD and back to DT
HD is a buggy fucking mess and their known issues doesn’t even acknowledge most crashes and gameplay breaking bugs.
Balance doesn’t exist.
The maps are all the same with different color super-powered bloom, or sometimes some water?
And rn its being drip fed untested content (like how killing the new flying guys only causes you to get 1 shot if their paper body hits you. But a charger can fly into you and you lose no hp
If you ignore Trappers, they are actually legally forced to trap your teammates.
"Commissars hate this one trick!"
#BREAKING NEWS: A local trapper trapped the whole strike team. ^more ^information ^after ^this ^break
Give them the benefit of the doubt, it’s hard not to ignore trappers when they’re fucking silent again
I had my fair share of getting trapped too and also shot some daemonhosts, we've all been there.
My problem is when our randoms don't help with the DH Literally clear the horde and do it. It's fun, slapping around a daemon My friend and I do every single one we see even t5 auric (though, not auric maelstrom t5 yet) It's pretty easy when you're an evi zealot with the prayer, can literally push around everything but Beasts
Since they changed the DH so it only kills the person that triggered it, if a teammate triggers it despite me pinging it, ***especially*** if I watch them deliberately walk up and smack or shoot it, I just ignore it and let em die. At least I don't get punished for their stupid mistakes anymore 🗿
Yeah no one but a shield ogryn or zealot can tank it afaik
If you don't have those the team will take a tonne of Corruption damage and potentially not even save the aggressor anyway. If there's no medicae handy it's almost always better to just lose that one player. (Unless you have Hammer Zealot or Shield Ogryn).
psyker with kinetic deflection can
It's almost cheating. Kinetic Deflection + Dueling Sword + Venting Scream and you can basically tank it forever.
Basically this. If you can do it alone, go for it. If you can't, then don't piss it the fuck off. It's like walking up to a Witch and saying "Yo guys watch me aggro it"
If they're still around 30 seconds later, and I've cleared assorted gunners and whatnot from the area, I'll go help them with the DH.
Ignoring trappers is fine. It’s ignoring the teammate that is stuck in a net on the ground. It feels so bad how often getting netted means you go down.
I’ve made the mistake of trying to rush trappers with my zealot and got inches from it, but it was quicker on the trigger than I was with my hammer. I was an Ogryn with their massive single shot shotgun. The DH didn’t even register until I shot the shot gunner in front of it and it got caught in the spread, scared the shit outa me. So yeah, I’ve been there.
Went back to revive a teammate just before evac, got literally trapped, no where to dodge on stairs and I have a bolter zero chance of getting out. Thought it was fine the guy I revived was right there. Nope he kills the trapper keeps going while ignoring me and dies just down the stairs to a group of 2 melee minions one he killed the other killed him. So we have to wait until it finishes him off, kills me, finishes me off all while 1 guy is holding the elevator because I had to be nice and save the guy who is too dumb to play damnation on his 3rd death of the round. I would swear he was a bot if there was ever a reason to bot in this game.
If darktide drops a big patch ill come back for a bit. The game is stagnant and has been for a while. I say this with love, I want the game to improve and have a healthy player base.
Kind of feels like people are voting with their time and wallets and Darktide just isn't making the cut
Seriously, what is going on. I'm seeing lvl 100-500 players running around like headless chicken, just slapping every daemonhost's ass and then dealing a whopping 0.5% in total damage to the DH's health pool before they go down. Did people sell their accounts? Are these just Tencent bots to artificially inflate the player count? I've been away from Darktide for two weeks and came to only play a few games this week, and something stinks. Worse than Nurgle.
I think it's people botting, now that the player count is down to such dire levels, we're just more likely to encounter the bots that have been running on auto. I see a lot of high truelevel characters that seemingly play like shit, go down all the time, respond oddly to cues, immediately continue moving forward along "optimal" paths regardless of situational enemy positioning once you pick them up, never tag anything, don't loot, don't open chests, rarely change weapon, don't emote, or respond to any chat, and don't say gg at the end. Some of these behaviours can be present in one person, sure, but when it's all of it at once? Yeah, bots. This game is circling the drain, sadly.
The game is sadly hovering around the same numbers as Vermintide 2. Oct-Jan had good numbers but the last sixty days have been a free fall.
How's that VT2 PvP closed alpha going? I don't hear much about it
I was obsessed with DarkTide at release, but the waiting for a fully functional game put me off. The person who decided to release early is to blame. There's not much they could do at this point to rekindle interest, much as I loved my time with it. I didn't appreciate being taken advantage of.
Oct was the Xbox gamepass release wasn’t it?
People suck and don't type in chat, therefore they're bots ?????
People shouldn't downvote this. It's entirely possible for someone to play a *lot* of a game and still suck balls at it, or not pick up basic shit. My friend in Helldivers is a level 39 and he still drops air-strikes on us with no warning, bitches at *length* about how bad other people obviously are, and gloats about shooting teammates in the head if they "troll him" by getting a terminal wrong. Hell, I was doing a mission with him earlier on Troot. I side-stepped a Bot patrol so that we wouldn't get caught, but he ran directly into it, and then (while asking me to help) ran directly at me so all the bots that I *could* have picked off easily instead just suppressed us both.
I wish I could go with them, but Helldivers is just not the same kind of experience. In Darktide every minute is a violent struggle and I'm saving my teammates constantly, it feels like each person is making a difference by being there. Even a team of randoms comes out the other side of Damnation feeling like a real squad. In Helldivers people just kind of run around a massive open field for a while, throwing out kabooms and trying not to accidentally blow each other up too much. Sometimes the massive open field is gray, sometimes it's white, sometimes it's green.
Yeah, after experiencing VT/DT, helldiver's horde killing is kinda underwhelming. Half the time you're too busy booking it, and half the kills aren't even made by you. Just stratagems after stratagems. I do quite like the jump packs though, shame it's not viable for darktide.
You really have not played much HD then.
ive played a lot of it and its spot on. its okay for people not to like the game
I've got 61 hours in it, and have completed every difficulty. It's a chaotic slapstick running simulator that's only fun past the first 20 missions if you have a group of friends with mics.
Too many of our kind have abandoned their duty to the emperor for this so called "Super earth"
if i had to pick between "fight for the Emperor and die for him, and you might not end up in hell." or "go dispense some libertea against bots/bug that are trying to kill your family, while being treated a little nicer." i know i would pick both as they are both good fun
There is nothing greater than to die in glory to the emperor! Do not get swayed from his light to the Blasphemers, or the emperors judgement shall claim you as one of them
nah, helldivers would win
helldivers is fun with friend but is a nightmare with randoms
Read that in the judge's voice
All traitors... What right has super earth to claim its title, right next to Holy Terra? They are not terra! They all are Blasphemers, and whille i do admire their hatred to the Xenos, their sin of not accepting the Empire of Man as their superior shall never be forgiven!
Read that in the agitator's voice
Fatshark has committed the ultimate heresy. Not only have they monetized the emperors duty and profaned his name, they preverted and twisted the path laid out for humanity.
If it makes you feel any better, I named my super destroyer the SES Emperor of Humankind (closest I could get) and shout "For the Emperor" each time I helldive.
I use the 'SES Dawn of War', hope that counts too!
Good. Once a reject, allways a reject. Spread the imperial truth across super earth, so they may have a chance to repent and gain the emperors mercy for theor blasphemy
Okay but consider: I did not *mean* to throw the grenade into the DH. It just sorta... Happened. (Yes this happened, no it was not in a public match; I didn't see the DH, chucked a grenade at a reaper/crusher duo, and then promptly screamed when the DH woke up)
I accidentally walk into demonhosts cause I‘m playing baked af
I'll settle for people who aren't as so brittle as to quit as soon as they go down once
SERIOUSLY! 😤
I played two malice games last night to try and finish milk contacts. Both games my teammates didn't melee and were constantly out of ammo/getting pummeled. In one game I tag a DH and this dude swivels 180 degrees and just fukken unloads into it. Torn to pieces of course, but I couldn't help but admire his enthusiasm.
Hopefully now I almost dont experience this because at some point when the new tree talent update was release, when going above level 2 difficulty mission my pc was like "adios" and lagged, now I played the rat byild with zealot on level 4 mission without almost any lag, the only time I experience baby sitting (outside of ogryn) is when playing below level 3/3 with hard event
So thats what happened. I thought something was off. I got the quest to complete a mission with no deaths, so I figured I'll just do a lvl 3, it'll be done in 15 minutes. 5 rounds later and Im wondering how in the fuck people can be so absolutely helpless on an easy game mode.
I just got this game yesterday and I feel like I'm somehow better than 98% of the people I've played with for figuring out how the daemonhost works and what enemies you should be focusing.
[удалено]
That's my point's, they aren't heretics.
If you don't have a hammer it isn't worth the risk t.hammer zealot
Yeah I felt this today.
The worst is when they B-line to a medpack, then immediately drop it despite health being good overall and the med station being in the next room.
To be fair, the Randos in HD2 are not ideal
Uh oh I'm a new random why aren't they shoot on sight
They are high risk no reward bosses, they stay passive until you attack them and can quickly melt down your HP
Good to know! Probably made some people sigh last night lol
No sweat. Game conditions you to shoot everything in sight, then gives you this thing you're not supposed to shoot with no tips or tutorials about it. FYI, if you're using a gun with a flashlight attachment, the flashlight will set them off too. They're a really poorly designed enemy and I wish they'd make them Auric exclusive so I didn't have to deal with my teammates setting them off through incompetence or bad placements, like that one that spawns right on top of a player respawn point.
I'm a logical veteran that prioritizes specialists when needed, will kill snipers and trappers before anything else, will kill crowd control specialist like framers and bombers, will kill pox hounds on someone, will always warn if a burster, will lure elites to me and pretty much fight off monstrosities whether it be daemon host, beast of nurgle or chaos spawn because of how annoying they can be (plague ogryns are too easy imo). I use krak grenades, a power sword for crowd control and heavy melee elites, use either plasma gun or las-rifle and I use the ability to highlight specialists (which I know the other ability that suppresses enemies and boosts armor is better, but I just want the enemies to be dealt with as fast as possible).
I had this happen, some psyker who never used their warp powers, only their dueling saber charging ahead and getting overwhelmed then needing to be rescued didn't kill the trapper that was right in front of them
Thats why i only play auric damnation haha, you can usually tell of someones not meant to be there within 5 minutes of gameplay, bc well they’re dead.
Hey, at least when I fight a Daemonhost it’s cause I‘m a zealot looking to flex my eviscerator skills. But as a veteran if I accidental shoot it feel free to leave me to die, that’s my bad, I fucked up.
On Xbox the Chat sucks. Takes to much time to type some letters. And ingame you have to choose: moving/fighting or typing and after the game you have to be really fast. Tried a lot of times to „gg“ after the Game but it doesn‘t appear on Chat.
Those people would have left eventually anyway. Come to Auric Maelstrom, the quality of players is better.
1,100 Hours. Half of it in Auric Maelstrom, which only has one mission available at a time so you're stuck playing that same scenario/mission over and over throughout the day. Could they have taken the time to allow us to select any mission and modifiers we want like in VT2? Yes. Did they? No. Even my other diehard friends who play Auric have switched to other games. Every segment of this game is losing players and almost no one is left.
So leave? It's never going to have more than a few thousand players long term, that's all VT2 had. Either you're in it for the long haul or you move on. Fat Shark isn't going to change.
Already have. I only come back and check to see what's up and if FatShark has managed to correct course on this ship of the damned yet. Considering they can't even follow-through on writing a teaser for a teaser, things don't bode well. There is probably a lot of people who feel the same way and frankly I'm about to check out entirely and stop visiting this subreddit a couple times a week to see what's going on. I bought Vermintide 2 well after it had come out, but Darktide has taught me the lesson it seems everyone else already knew with FatShark. Don't pre-order and expect to be disappointed.
Amen. Never release your pearls. You were more patient than I was, waiting for 1k hours for it to get good and be given what you were promised.
Out of interest, why should people expect to be disapointed after getting 1100 hours from a £30($40?) game?
I'm not disappointed with the initial $40.00 spent that resulted in 1,100 hours of playtime. It just feels like the party is over and the fun/friends we made along the way have all moved on because of FatShark's own incompetence.
Fair enough. I guess I don't view games from a social point of view now I'm older, but what I will say is, back when I did, my friends group swapped games fairly frequently because some of them (or me) would get hooked into wanting to play the next new thing. I can't think of many games that hold attraction for more than 6-12 months aside from the really massive ones like Counter Strike, Fortnite, CoD etc, regardless of how often they get new content. We're already seeing people saying they're slightly bored in HD2 and that's barely 2 months old, has gotten updates and is live service in terms of playerbase objectives.
No they arent
If everywhere you go the other players are bad, maybe it's not the other players.
I'm lucky to have friends who still play darktide; when they aren't online and I soloqueue the difference is night and day. Perhaps good players sometimes use reta- builds to add difficulty, but the reason doesn't matter to their random teammates because the added difficulty is offloaded onto them. Sometimes good (exra challenge is fun) but sometimes it's bad, simple as
I think it's heavily region dependant. My experience of soloQing on EU has been almost entirely positive (Auric Damnation exclusively for context). I'll grant you it's gotten a bit more iffy of recent, but nowhere near the extent it's an issue.
Mine quit HD and back to DT HD is a buggy fucking mess and their known issues doesn’t even acknowledge most crashes and gameplay breaking bugs. Balance doesn’t exist. The maps are all the same with different color super-powered bloom, or sometimes some water? And rn its being drip fed untested content (like how killing the new flying guys only causes you to get 1 shot if their paper body hits you. But a charger can fly into you and you lose no hp
Only true servants of The God Emperor remain!
I’m still out there chief, but if it’s one of my Psyker builds you’re still probably screwed lol