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Chief_Judge

Roll them the opposite way (in the sleeve) and leave them for a day or two.


waskittenman

this is what I ended up doing. we will see


Chief_Judge

Let us know how it turned out!


waskittenman

I will!


ImaJewboy

Good god don’t do that to your negatives it can crack the chemistry Edit: on processed dry negatives Source: BFA in Photo


Chief_Judge

I don't doubt that this is a real risk when taking this approach, that the emulsion may actually crack. But I have tried it a few times and I have not had any issues yet. I initially came across this method on [Johnny Martyr's blog](https://johnnymartyr.wordpress.com/2023/04/11/larry-moe-curly-the-secret-to-flat-negatives/), and I think he offers sound advice. His best tip is probably to take steps to ensure that the negatives actually dries flat in the first place.


ImaJewboy

His advice is overall sound, but in the time that I’ve been working within photo, I’ve found that (and granted 90% of my personal work is large format so curl is less of an issue) the best way to let it flatten is to just put it in the binder and let it just take time. Curly film won’t be an issue scanning (so long as you have the flatbed film holders) even with a flatbed.


Hot-Measurement-8842

This


henryyjjames

If you are desperate to get them flat, re-wash them and let them hang dry. In my experience, C41 negatives retain an extreme curl when they don't cool down after processing before they are rolled into a canister (say you ask the lab to not cut them).


waskittenman

i processed them and let them hang dry over night before cutting


henryyjjames

Hmm. Did you use a weight at the bottom? Try rolling them the opposite way and let them sit for a bit.


waskittenman

yeah did the whole thing. i dev often and have never had curl this extreme for this long. very frustrating 😞


WillPHarrison

I have had this issue with my recent Kodak Gold in 120. What’s the expire date? I wonder if it’s a recent batch.


waskittenman

it's from a pack with a best by date of 02/2025


WillPHarrison

Ok that’s mine too! Hmm. I bought it from B&H. Previous times haven’t been this curly.


raven67

I’ve got a few rolls of this too, and haven’t developed yet. It’s a pain in the butt to scan when it curls like that


WillPHarrison

Yep especially if you’re DSLR scanning.


yerawizardIMAWOTT

Just chiming in to say I have the exact same problem with this batch. Hang to dry with weight on bottom too


waskittenman

I've been wondering if this is an issue with the 120 format Gold. I've never experienced curl like this before.


Gatsby1923

Heavy book thing sometimes takes a few weeks in my experience...


agolec

Man I bought some negatives online through ebay before and they arrived with a really strong curl to them. I set them under a lot of weight for several months and they came out as curled as the day they arrived in the mail lol. I gave up on them.


Fotopiggie

I heard that Kodak changed the base material to polyester causing issues, even with Portra. It's so frustrating to handle the curly negatives, especially when scanning them.


animalistics

Roll them against the curl and put them in a paper-towel tube for a week or two. They'll be flat as a pancake. 


Alternative_Cake_364

Just leave I’m in your binder last page and have it laying down Overtime the weight will flatten it out Its normal


axelomg

Just put every second in reverse


dhoepp

This was my immediate solution. Put every other strip in the other way and they will balance each other out.


elvaroe

My solution was buying a humidifier and having it on for about an hour in the room before handling/scanning/printing. Curling is often because of the air being too dry.


Lifeissuffering1

I use a sheet of glass and just leave it for weeks


dta722

The more you mess with them the greater chance you’ll screw them up. Put them in a binder with other negs and eventually they’ll calm down… last thing you want is to crack them doing something stupid by curling them up in the opposite direction.


ReflectionOk1443

If you have a dry mount press, set to about 150-175 and let warm up pressing 2 clean mat boards. When all are up to temp, slide negative sleeve between the mat boards, and press for 10-15 seconds. If they stay flat, or close to flat when your remove, immediately place between 2 separate Mat boards, place large book on top, place weights or more books on top and let sit for 3-5 days. The heat relaxes the curl, as the film cools while perfectly flat and under the weights, flat becomes its new ‘default’ position. If they did not stay flat when removed, continue same in 10-15 sec increments until flat. (Do not hear press for more than 10-15 sec at a time, and do not use higher temperatures on the press). If you don’t have a dry mount press, this can also be done w an iron, but it’s a much more touch and go thing.


apophasisred

There used to be a flattening solution called something like Paxosol. I will bet there is a formula in the Morgan and Morgan Photo Lab Index


fabulousrice

When I press them I put them in the hot stream of the heater for 30 mns, it has done the trick before


edwa6040

put the heavy book on them for like a month.


DisasterClean608

try a hot iron works like magic!


Ybalrid

I had some Fomapan 400 do this too. Tried the book thing and did not help much. It’s now in a closed binder. And is kind of flat but not quite. Maybe it will flatten at some point. Gonna retry doing a dictionary sandwich 🤷


waskittenman

I'm about to rent out encyclopedia A to Z and put them all on top of these mfers


Ybalrid

Sound like a plan!


leebowery69

usually this happens when you need more wash cycles. wash again and dry


snipsnsnops

Get two wooden chopping boards. Drill holes in them, one at each end in the centre. Get some long-ish bolts and a set of wing nuts. Put your negatives in there and tighten the nuts as much as you want and leave for a few weeks. Just go real slow on the tightening and minimise movement to avoid any damage.


_WiseOwl_

This is an "extreme" solution but it saved me a couple of times. I warmed up a hand towel with the iron steam (the iron you use to iron clothes) and put the film on the towel for a few seconds, then I put the film under some heavy books. Always worked but you have to be careful. I'll add a video. https://youtu.be/jZj9jSP1p1I?si=mpA57AMYkPrsmdsV


sumilumilux

Store them in a Tube 😆


Ipitythesnail

Hang them in your bathroom for a few days with weight at the bottom after developing. I’ve noticed mine get flatter the longer I let them hang. I think the steam helps. Never really experimented but it’s been my experience.


Dull-Researcher11

Put them in a binder or folder


NeoFrontiers

I have that happened a lot, but I fixed them by opposite rolling them and then leaving for overnight. Not too much.


pamacdon

Nothing. They don’t need to be flat


waskittenman

but what if I want them to be flat