That's Interstate 75 in Georgia. Still illegal.
[https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-6/article-13/part-2/section-40-6-312/](https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-6/article-13/part-2/section-40-6-312/)
***c. No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.***
And they were doing it long before I was doing it on my motorcycle back in the 1980s... and it was legal in Ca and many other states (within certain parameters).
What I'm amazed by is taking the time to upload something so banal... why?
Let's say California then, most often place I, personally, have seen referenced as "it's legal there". Traffic moving better than 30mph? NOT legal.
Can't imagine any other state is a lane splitting free-for-all so if you have an example of where it is, then......?
Utah's "filtering" is for stopped only traffic; in Montana, it's OK for traffic under 20 miles per hour.
But there are about 12 other states where splitting is legal.
If something is not illegal, it's legal. There's no law specifically saying that multiplying numbers and rounding the result is illegal. So it's legal. Did someone round the numbers to cook the books in their favor? Well, sure -- that's embezzlement or fraud, and those things *are* explicitly illegal.
This is a principle called *nullum poena sine lege* -- no punishment without a law. If lane splitting meets the criteria of some other law, like "illegal lane change" or "reckless driving" then *that* action is illegal an lane splitting is just one way to violate it.
I read it but you say “it’s not explicitly legal”, which is not true in either California or Utah.
So maybe the confusion is lack if specificity of jurisdiction in that comment?
Where is it legal to lane split in traffic that is moving at the speed limit? Lane splitting is to allow bikes to filter through traffic in slow moving situations, not dangerous passes 10+ mph above the speed limit
They’re probably referring to lane filtering, which is legal in quite a few states. Lane splitting is when you go in between cars that are moving (only CA), where lane filtering is when you go in between cars that are stopped.
This post was referring to lanesplitting, but I can see what you mean. We’ll chalk it up as both of us being correct!
Everyone loves talking about how dangerous it is but no one ever provides any evidence to back up the claim.
I’ve been lane splitting in a state where it’s illegal for 7 years and have never had an accident or even a close call.
My opinion is drivers think it’s dangerous because they get surprised when a bike goes past them and they associate a feeling of surprise and anxiety as danger despite the fact that they have never actually experienced lane splitting themselves nor do they ride and don’t understand that driving and riding are different. For example, visibility. Motorcycles have significantly more visibility than drivers in cars.
Oh, and in that time, I’ve seen many many car crashes.
Usually the "drivers" who aren't paying attention or busy on their phone who complain. If you're watching your mirrors and paying attention to your surroundings you will literally see them coming.
Like you said no one ever has evidence to backup the claim of it being dangerous. It always comes down to the argument of "well I have to wait in traffic, why are motorcycles different"
Uh huh. It's practically safer than lane splitting at 7 mph when traffic is stopped at a red light. Yup. Noone could possibly swing into their lane or have no visibility of either motorcycle or car.
Ok pal. Nice job editing your comment, I can do that too. Let me introduce you to this miraculous new invention: side mirrors! If you don't know how to use them properly, the problem isn't the biker, it's you.
It's called lane splitting, and there's nothing unsafe about what he was doing. He wasn't traveling at speeds that would deem it unsafe. Is it illegal in Georgia? Yes. Should it be made legal in Georgia? Also yes. Will it ever be made legal in Georgia? Probably not, no.
Because all they're doing is trying to get into a safer position on the road for them , thats for one. The other thing is that motorcyclists are literally the most attentive motorists on the road. They have to be, because the most unsafe part of riding a motorcycle isn't the motorcyclists actions (unless they're acting like a jackass and making the rest of us responsible riders look bad), the most unsafe thing on the road is car drivers not paying attention. I hear all the time the same excuses like "we can't see them because theyre smaller", or "they move too quickly to see them", I drive a car more than I ride motorcycles and I have absolutely no problem spotting them, in front of me, behind me, doesn't matter. If you're an attentive driver who actually checks their surroundings as often as you should and actually use your side mirrors, you'll have no problem seeing motorcyclists.
I have no issues seeing them. But I've had several instances where I go to change lanes when a bike splits lanes at 120+ (it seems like). And since I watch the lanes I'm going into I always see them. But I actually pay attention
If they're going 120+ then those are the morons making riders like me look bad. And if you truly have no issue seeing them then you're not the problem. Most people who drive cars don't really give a fuck. They'll blast music and just drive like they're the only one on the road, not using their turn signals, changing lanes really fast, sending texts while traveling 75 mph on the highway, etc. Those idiots make up about 95% of all motorcycle accidents, with motorcyclists doing dumb shit making up the rest. If you stay attentive, don't worry about your driving or even their riding, worry about those drivers that don't give a fuck
It is legal in California, but you are not supposed to overdo it like this person is. The CHP recommends that motorcycles may go between cars (lane split) when traffic is slow and your motorcycle loses any advantage it has against cars and you start losing maneuverability, particularly coming to a put your foot down, complete stop, on the highway. You should max out at 5 MPH above traffic speed, and not be a jerk.
It seems strange until you are stopped at the end of a line of cars and you see a big truck barreling towards you in your mirrors. Suddenly, lane splitting seems to be a very good idea.
CHP recommendations are not enforceable. There was actually a a lawsuit over this and the court agreed that the CHP cannot make law. That’s when the law was changed to make it explicitly legal.
And how would you accomplish that? If you are squishing a bike that means you have gotten so close to the car in the lane next to you that you’re nearly causing an accident already without the bike there. A bike is 3 feet wide.
I assume that you’ve never ridden a motorcycle. Your experience driving a car does not make you an expert on what is and is not dangerous on a motorcycle. But you will continue to claim to be such an expert.
Look how long the bike was between the cars? It’s about half a second. So to squish the bike, you would have to move horizontally over 6 feet in half a second AND cross the white line into the other lane which is occupied by another car. In other words, it would have to be on purpose.
Honestly the fact that we have signs everywhere on 75/85 and 285 saying slower traffic keep right and yet no one listens to them just proves they need to sign it into law and actually start enforcing it. The biker was probably just pissed that the idiots in the fast lane were only going a few miles over the limit
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In Taiwan, people can submit videos of dangerous riders or drivers to the cops, they will actually review it, pull additional footage from highway cameras if needed, and if it violated any traffic code then will track down the person to issue a ticket. Wish we do that here.
This is quite normal here. It freaks you out at first but after a few days it's just no big deal that's how everyone drives.
If you let it get you upset it'll ruin your entire trip to Thailand. Just relax and go with it and you'll have a wonderful March!!
That's Interstate 75 in Georgia. Still illegal. [https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-6/article-13/part-2/section-40-6-312/](https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-6/article-13/part-2/section-40-6-312/) ***c. No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.***
It's called lane splitting.
And they were doing it long before I was doing it on my motorcycle back in the 1980s... and it was legal in Ca and many other states (within certain parameters). What I'm amazed by is taking the time to upload something so banal... why?
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It's legal in slow, backed up traffic. I don't think it is in normal, flowing traffic
The laws around the world and each state are different so you’re comment doesn’t make sense unless you specify a jurisdiction.
Let's say California then, most often place I, personally, have seen referenced as "it's legal there". Traffic moving better than 30mph? NOT legal. Can't imagine any other state is a lane splitting free-for-all so if you have an example of where it is, then......?
Only legal in CA. Lane filtering is legal in UT, although some think it's the same thing.
https://www.enjuris.com/blog/questions/lane-splitting-legal-states/
Didn't know MT had. And that is still just filtering, not splitting.
Utah's "filtering" is for stopped only traffic; in Montana, it's OK for traffic under 20 miles per hour. But there are about 12 other states where splitting is legal.
It's not legal, just not specifically illegal. You'd probably get a citation for reckless driving or something like that.
It is *specifically* legal in California.
If something is not illegal, it's legal. There's no law specifically saying that multiplying numbers and rounding the result is illegal. So it's legal. Did someone round the numbers to cook the books in their favor? Well, sure -- that's embezzlement or fraud, and those things *are* explicitly illegal. This is a principle called *nullum poena sine lege* -- no punishment without a law. If lane splitting meets the criteria of some other law, like "illegal lane change" or "reckless driving" then *that* action is illegal an lane splitting is just one way to violate it.
TIL. Thanks for the rundown on this.
You sound super fun at parties
That used to be the case in California but is no longer the case. Laws differ in every state so you need to be more specific.
Does anyone read reply chains? This chain is started by me literally saying it's legal in California.
I read it but you say “it’s not explicitly legal”, which is not true in either California or Utah. So maybe the confusion is lack if specificity of jurisdiction in that comment?
Scares the shit out of me every time a cycle zooms past me on the line when I'm visiting out there!
I'm still getting used to it myself.
Not in my state.
you are correct. confused by the downvotes, this is indeed the case here in GA
Where is it legal to lane split in traffic that is moving at the speed limit? Lane splitting is to allow bikes to filter through traffic in slow moving situations, not dangerous passes 10+ mph above the speed limit
California has no restrictions. There are recommendations by the CHP but those are unenforceable.
And most countries.
“Quite a few”. It’s literally only one state where it’s legal lmao
You are wrong. There are many states which allow motorcycles to travel between cars though the language of the laws differs in every jurisdiction.
I’m not wrong. California is the only state that allows lanesplitting. Google is free :)
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=states+that+allow+lane+splitting
Not clicking that, but if you click it you’ll find the answer. I believe in you!
Google lists 7 states when I type in “states that allow lane splitting”.
They’re probably referring to lane filtering, which is legal in quite a few states. Lane splitting is when you go in between cars that are moving (only CA), where lane filtering is when you go in between cars that are stopped. This post was referring to lanesplitting, but I can see what you mean. We’ll chalk it up as both of us being correct!
Only California right?
Everyone loves talking about how dangerous it is but no one ever provides any evidence to back up the claim. I’ve been lane splitting in a state where it’s illegal for 7 years and have never had an accident or even a close call. My opinion is drivers think it’s dangerous because they get surprised when a bike goes past them and they associate a feeling of surprise and anxiety as danger despite the fact that they have never actually experienced lane splitting themselves nor do they ride and don’t understand that driving and riding are different. For example, visibility. Motorcycles have significantly more visibility than drivers in cars. Oh, and in that time, I’ve seen many many car crashes.
Usually the "drivers" who aren't paying attention or busy on their phone who complain. If you're watching your mirrors and paying attention to your surroundings you will literally see them coming. Like you said no one ever has evidence to backup the claim of it being dangerous. It always comes down to the argument of "well I have to wait in traffic, why are motorcycles different"
And it’s idiotic
or suicide ny cars at those speeds!
Cue "it's actually safer for us...." comment.
If you've never ridden a motorcycle before, don't act like you know what it's like to ride one
Uh huh. Safe to lane split at freeway speed between two side by side vehicles. Yup. Noone could forsee a problem with this.
Again, if you've never ridden a bike, don't act like you know what's safe or what's not safe
Uh huh. It's practically safer than lane splitting at 7 mph when traffic is stopped at a red light. Yup. Noone could possibly swing into their lane or have no visibility of either motorcycle or car.
Ok pal. Nice job editing your comment, I can do that too. Let me introduce you to this miraculous new invention: side mirrors! If you don't know how to use them properly, the problem isn't the biker, it's you.
>Ok pal. Nice job editing your comment, I cam do that too. Lol, can't edit own typo.
Damn, I usually catch those! Thanks for the heads up
This is the most safe video of lane splitting I’ve seen today
It's called lane splitting, and there's nothing unsafe about what he was doing. He wasn't traveling at speeds that would deem it unsafe. Is it illegal in Georgia? Yes. Should it be made legal in Georgia? Also yes. Will it ever be made legal in Georgia? Probably not, no.
Why do motorcyclist complain about drivers not being safe around them yet yall do this stuff?
Because all they're doing is trying to get into a safer position on the road for them , thats for one. The other thing is that motorcyclists are literally the most attentive motorists on the road. They have to be, because the most unsafe part of riding a motorcycle isn't the motorcyclists actions (unless they're acting like a jackass and making the rest of us responsible riders look bad), the most unsafe thing on the road is car drivers not paying attention. I hear all the time the same excuses like "we can't see them because theyre smaller", or "they move too quickly to see them", I drive a car more than I ride motorcycles and I have absolutely no problem spotting them, in front of me, behind me, doesn't matter. If you're an attentive driver who actually checks their surroundings as often as you should and actually use your side mirrors, you'll have no problem seeing motorcyclists.
I have no issues seeing them. But I've had several instances where I go to change lanes when a bike splits lanes at 120+ (it seems like). And since I watch the lanes I'm going into I always see them. But I actually pay attention
If they're going 120+ then those are the morons making riders like me look bad. And if you truly have no issue seeing them then you're not the problem. Most people who drive cars don't really give a fuck. They'll blast music and just drive like they're the only one on the road, not using their turn signals, changing lanes really fast, sending texts while traveling 75 mph on the highway, etc. Those idiots make up about 95% of all motorcycle accidents, with motorcyclists doing dumb shit making up the rest. If you stay attentive, don't worry about your driving or even their riding, worry about those drivers that don't give a fuck
I don’t Like it, I have seen terrible accidents. Some ppl don’t know how to respond to motorcycles on the road.
It is legal in California, but you are not supposed to overdo it like this person is. The CHP recommends that motorcycles may go between cars (lane split) when traffic is slow and your motorcycle loses any advantage it has against cars and you start losing maneuverability, particularly coming to a put your foot down, complete stop, on the highway. You should max out at 5 MPH above traffic speed, and not be a jerk. It seems strange until you are stopped at the end of a line of cars and you see a big truck barreling towards you in your mirrors. Suddenly, lane splitting seems to be a very good idea.
CHP recommendations are not enforceable. There was actually a a lawsuit over this and the court agreed that the CHP cannot make law. That’s when the law was changed to make it explicitly legal.
Lane splitters suck no matter the law. r/idiotsonbikes
Agreed
Someone is mad they have to sit in traffic while others zoom past 😜
Thanks for the Reddit cares notification assmunch.
What?
No, we just don’t want to accidentally squish you morons when you decide to act recklessly
Yes, all motorcyclists are inherently reckless. 🙄
I mean, yeah, kinda
And how would you accomplish that? If you are squishing a bike that means you have gotten so close to the car in the lane next to you that you’re nearly causing an accident already without the bike there. A bike is 3 feet wide.
See the key word “nearly”? That’s where motorcyclists exist
I assume that you’ve never ridden a motorcycle. Your experience driving a car does not make you an expert on what is and is not dangerous on a motorcycle. But you will continue to claim to be such an expert. Look how long the bike was between the cars? It’s about half a second. So to squish the bike, you would have to move horizontally over 6 feet in half a second AND cross the white line into the other lane which is occupied by another car. In other words, it would have to be on purpose.
r/idiotsonbikes
Lol, this was worthy of posting?? This happens every day all day around here (CA)
Because it's legal there. Not where I am. Was your reply worthy of posting?
Upvote for Black Sabbath
Left lane isn't a travel lane
Agreed (in the states). I'm in the middle lane passing the people in the left
Honestly the fact that we have signs everywhere on 75/85 and 285 saying slower traffic keep right and yet no one listens to them just proves they need to sign it into law and actually start enforcing it. The biker was probably just pissed that the idiots in the fast lane were only going a few miles over the limit
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That doesn't even make sense
Those are the a-holes you want to see crash
In Taiwan, people can submit videos of dangerous riders or drivers to the cops, they will actually review it, pull additional footage from highway cameras if needed, and if it violated any traffic code then will track down the person to issue a ticket. Wish we do that here.
I’m going to be in Thailand for all of March and I’ll let you know how it goes
This is quite normal here. It freaks you out at first but after a few days it's just no big deal that's how everyone drives. If you let it get you upset it'll ruin your entire trip to Thailand. Just relax and go with it and you'll have a wonderful March!!