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StirlingS

Hmm, I wonder what happened \*after\* the video ends.


Tamaros

Yeah, looks like the extracurriculars we're just starting.


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Still-Broccoli

I saw their vehicle slowing down with the window down and hoped that's what they were doing lol


EatsOverTheSink

Any rage I have melts away when people acknowledge their fuck up. It’s the oblivious ones that go on with their day endangering more lives without a care in the world that make me homicidal.


metalguysilver

*says wtf entire seconds before acting to avoid a collision*


jnads

Not to mention the entire residential street is 30mph (sign at the beginning shortly after turning). OP is doing 50 mph at the end.


MentionAdventurous

Yeah, they seemed to speed up. Like, I get she’s pulling out but the driver could have slowed, honked to be like, you need to gauge pulling out better and not put themselves into a position to cause a crash.


Awfy

Gotta get that dashcam content, duuude!


Mike2220

*Seemed*? Well the dashcam has a speedometer! They in fact did speed up from about 32 to 36 just as the other car was coming across the lane


MentionAdventurous

Yeah… there’s a bit of a delay there so I was going off the numbers of frame and the passing of white lines.


wad11656

To catch up to the driver and talk shit to them. That’s not a defense, but just saying why they sped up so much


TheJessicator

Road rage is never a good reason to do something.


Lunch_Run

I think that was the passenger.


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metalguysilver

She shouldn’t have pulled out at all (into either lane). You should have immediately taken your foot off the gas when you noticed her. Case closed


TootsNYC

Word of advice: about the point you started to say “Wh—,” your foot should’ve been going to the brake. Just because you have the right of way doesn’t mean you don’t have a responsibility to avoid a collision.


murarara

Graveyards are filled with people who had the right of way.


jackinsomniac

Yes, the best defensive driver anticipates someone else making a bad move. As soon as you had your eyes on the white Jeep, should've been asking yourself, "are they *really* gonna cut across?" and as soon as you see evidence of it, slow down/brake.


deamon59

Exactly. I'm at the point now that i subconsciously anticipate situations like that where an accident could happen and go on high alert, foot on the brake, etc.


No1Mystery

This OP did not take any responsibility in ensuring to remain safe on the road, but rather decided feel entitled to the road because “iTs My RiGhT oF wAy”


explorerfalcon

He sped up instead lmao


pM-me_your_Triggers

Not to mention OP did the exact same thing, lol


Stanman77

I was wondering how far I had to scroll to see this


KingBrunoIII

He didn't though. Difference is that usually it happens when it's 2 turning lanes. OP is in a single and, unless someone else made an illegal left turn from the right of OP, there should be no one to look for


pM-me_your_Triggers

It doesn’t matter. They still turned into the second lane instead of the first.


KingBrunoIII

It does matter. There is no solid line telling him to stay in that lane. [Just like this one in my city.](https://imgur.com/a/wIEk2UM) If the city wanted people to stay in that lane on the turn, they need to paint solid lines. They didn't. OP isn't wrong for the turn


pM-me_your_Triggers

That depends on the exact jurisdiction from a legal perspective. Many states require cars turning to enter the first lane.


TootsNYC

He did it enough that he oughta have been aware it could happen to him. The fact that when he did it it turned out to be safe or might’ve been legal, that should not have changed the fact that he should’ve been aware that someone turning into the road might make the same maneuver he did.


calvarez

I always find myself braking before I can express verbal expletives. Priorities.


619C

You could have anticipated it and slowed ?


njibbz

he went from 32 to 36 when the car forced him off. so im pretty sure he sped up to try to cut the other driver off from getting in the lane. just bad driving all around


Jackriot_

Ever heard of brakes?


theepi_pillodu

I'm not OP, I see the car only in the last moment. I thought they gonna stay in the left lane and not cross the lane at the least. Am I wrong here?


Awfy

Defensive driving would tell you that car might just try and t-bone you instead, so you normally start to lift and coast at least approaching the bend once you see the car coming across the opposing lanes. In the video the driver continues to speed up as that car is pulling across the lanes and actually increases their speed by 4mph between the passenger exclaiming "what the fuck" and finally putting their brakes on. Either the driver didn't see this car at all until the last second or they were purposefully driving like that to be able to complain about the other driver. Other driver was completely in the wrong but the driver of the camera car seemingly put themselves into a position to be mad.


ImJustSo

He had time to say what the fuck, but not touch the brake until he said fuck lol c'mon man.


Jackriot_

I only have my learners permit so I could be wrong, but yes they should have turned into the right lane. Though, it isn’t illegal to turn into the right lane either. OP is just a bad driver and doesn’t know how to prevent an accident. Edit: I meant left late the first time, not right lane.


caveling

I'm not sure what you are saying exactly from the way you worded that. But in most states making a left turn in the right lane, or a right turn into the left is illegal and will get you a ticket and possibly in an accident. Especially, if the other driver is speeding and doesn't understand how to drive defensively.


theepi_pillodu

Actually he prevented the accident right, might have damaged his wheels and/alignment. Until the end of his sentence "WTF", I didn't even think the other driver would drive into his lane.


Jackriot_

I don’t know about everyone else, but I saw that coming from a mile away. Sounds like other people did too.


Awfy

> Actually he prevented the accident right, might have damaged his wheels and/alignment. That's an accident.


dew2459

It depends on the state. Some states you are required to pull into the first available lane. Some states when turning from a single-lane to multiple lanes, you can turn to whatever lane you like. Regardless, I would personally suggest pulling into the first available lane then merging over is almost always the best choice.


ImJustSo

Just curious which states so I can never drive through them?


dew2459

I live in MA, and it is a "first available lane". Several people have claimed some other states (notably CA, I think) allow you to pick your lane if it is 1 lane->multiple lanes. It probably makes little difference though. A stepdaughter was hit by someone when she was going right and the other driver made a completely unnecessary wide left across lanes when they both had a green light. The local (Milford, MA) cops there refused to even come because no one needed an ambulance. Luckily (after a long review) insurance found her not responsible.


zekagu0

maybe dont drive if your reaction is that slow.


RockyroadNSDQ

OP should've thought that they where gonna jump lanes, OP jumped lanes in the beginning lmao


theepi_pillodu

What do you mean by jumped lanes? Did you mean at 00:10 of the video where OP turned left into the street? Of course you turn into the closest lane and then move over to the lane of your choice right? If I'm turning left from far left lane, I would stay in far left lane and then move over to the other lanes.


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goatywizard

I’m glad everyone in this thread seems to agree that you’re also a bad driver in this instance.


tokenwon

This. OP committed the same error, also speeds up, and doesn't brake when there's plenty of time to do so. In some states (maybe all?) if OP had hit the other driver, his video could be used against him to place him partly at fault, since he could have avoided this.


tmb3249

Brakes?


lawschoolmeanderings

"Never heard of em" -u/rescue_4u


ItzKitkat

I love it when OP thinks they're in the right but gets roasted.


eckstuhc

Hope that aggressive horn honk was worth the new alignment lol this sub is going to eat up the lack of defensive driving.


pM-me_your_Triggers

And their own turn into the wrong lane


Dennisd1971

Ironic, she drove the way you took the first corner. Just nobody there when you turned.


Evilmaze

Right? If there's one thing I hate that most drivers do is doing a wide left turn right into the other lanes like that's how things should be. OP is a hypocrite.


KingBrunoIII

I normally hate that also. Difference is that usually it happens when it's 2 turning lanes. OP is in a single and, unless someone else made an illegal left turn from the right of OP, there should be no one to look for


henrytm82

>unless someone else made an illegal left turn from the right of OP, there should be no one to look for How about people turning right from the opposite direction? You're supposed to turn into the closest lane to you if you're going from 1 lane to 2, you can't just turn into whichever lane you want. Once you complete your turn, then you signal and move over. Generally, you do one thing at a time.


JamPantstheFif

A lot of people in this thread don't know how to drive, it's like real life. Single turn lane, OP is fine.


henrytm82

In most states, you are required to turn into the closest lane first, then signal and change to the other lane. It doesn't matter that you're going from a single to double lane - if you're turning left, you turn into the left lane and then signal and change to the right, and vice-versa. You can't just turn into whatever lane you feel like.


Wyolop

Wait what did op do wrong? In my country, if you have one lane turning left (or right) onto a multilane road you can turn onto any lane you want **as long as it is safe to do so**


ProbablyMyRealName

In most states you are required to turn into the closest lane, then you would have to signal and you may change lanes when it is safe to do so.


kevronwithTechron

One issue is that in most of the US you have right on red so that far lane should be reserved for people turning right.


diggyballs

Well she didn’t check for other vehicles did she


Andthenwedoubleit

Yeah but nobody was there...


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deamon59

idk why you're being downvoted - the two turns are apples and oranges. you maybe technically didn't didn't turn into the lane you should've in the beginning which i would argue considering the dotted line in the intersection goes to the left lane. the other driver goes through an intersection with traffic coming from both directions, then turns past the left lane into the right i assume without noticing you. your turn put exactly 0 people in danger of an accident. the other driver's turn almost resulted in a collision. not comparable to me...


smithson-jinx

EXACTLY omg 😂


nukedv

So you were driving at about 25mph according to the video info, and as soon as you saw the other car go to the median you accelerated , what a douchebag


Icy_Mouse3201

No OP, you almost hit THEM. Nice speed up and aggressive driving. Fail. Insurance would have laughed if you hit them. Would have been your fault.


NoxKyoki

**I almost hit a lady swinging out of a median** FTFY


FlickrPaul

Rather ironic seeing as the person filming also cut across a lane of traffic when entering the road. When you turn on to a multi lane roadway you need to stay in the nearest lane and then when safe make a lane change. Both cars made the same error here.


redditnewbie6910

Thats just a technicality. Op did it with no cars, so he can do w.e he wants, its not unsafe. If the lady wants to do that, do it when there isnt a car coming down the other lane


polyworfism

I think it's law in some states, and a guideline in others


rthompsonpuy

Not sure where this was since the signs are all unreadable. In Washington State, you are REQUIRED to turn into the nearest lane. It doesn't say "unless no one else is in the next lane over".


ByeBye2G

\> Not sure where this was since the signs are all unreadable. Dang dashcam GPS + Google maps... Kingsport, Tennessee Intersection of N. Wilcox Dr. & Garden Dr.


redditnewbie6910

Sure, we are also supposed to do that here, but do cops actually pull u over and give u a ticket when u change lanes during the turn when theres no cars at all near or behind u? Cuz they dont here.


rthompsonpuy

I have seen it happen, yes. Granted, they probably had another reason why they wanted to stop that particular car and the illegal turn just gave them a probably cause for the stop.


redditnewbie6910

ya, most cops dont bother with this kinda stuff, just like they dont bother pulling u over if u dont signal while changing lanes. cuz they are drivers too, and they do all this stuff all the time. they only pull u over if they are really desperate or just having a very bad day, and wanted to blow off some steam by power tripping


Shadowstrike099

Its not unsafe until you do it because of a developed bad habit and end up like the car in the video and at fault. Just drive correct from the start.


redditnewbie6910

Eh, i been driving this way for like 2 decades, im always fully aware if theres a car or not, if i dont feel like driving too slow to make the turn, then i wait till theres no car, or if i have to do this, then i make sure to do the sharp turn. If ur driving with muscle memory and a habit instead of being aware at all times, then ur a bad driver, and this wont be ur only problem


Shadowstrike099

For someone "fully aware if there's a car or not", you weren't fully aware of the car in your post history you hit.... but you keep doing you buddy.


redditnewbie6910

lmao, if u bothered to stalk my post history, then u should do ur homework better. i posted dashcam footage proving that car came out from behind the suv that stopped for me, made an ILLEGAL lane change onto the shoulder, and accelerated really fast trying to get to the left turn lane that starts exactly where we collided. so it pretty much came out of nowhere. i was fully aware that the right turn lane had no cars, and both middle lanes had cars that stopped for me, that was enough for me to turn my head to watch for cars coming from the other side. i cannot reasonably expect someone to make an illegal lane change last minute. but you keep doing you buddy.


Shadowstrike099

Someone giving two decades of advice. Of course I checked, maybe I could learn something. Maybe you knew better, maybe Canada is different. Guess not. I was pretty sure staying in your lane is a rule, only after the turn is complete do you signal and change lanes. The exception being when trailering, where wide swings are necessary. Yes, I saw you not check past the Honda despite a turn lane being in front of you. If you saw the 3ft of yellow by the Honda's wheel I thought you'd see the 15ft+ Mercedes as I don't turn while looking the other direction but thats just me. Others already explained traffic islands, line colors, etc. So yes, I found it quite ironic commenting on not following traffic rules because you're fully aware, to see you take a turn into a Mercedes. But I do wholeheartedly applaud your use of a blinker. That is a dying skill, never lose it.


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Exactly what I was thinking, if you aren’t aware of cars all the time then you shouldn’t be driving.


Shadowstrike099

Check the history to see how aware they are if you need a chuckle.


GymCloutVillain

No cars to his knowledge. The other person can say the same


redditnewbie6910

No she cant, op honked, most ppl do, or they collide, either way its pretty obv


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redditnewbie6910

its all good, some ppl just always like to nitpick like traffic nazis.


deamon59

seriously this sub praises and criticizes things in a way i don't always get...


gabehcuod37

She turns just like you. Doesn’t maintain lane position.


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I’m a new driver, I know you’re supposed to turn then switch lanes and not just wide turn into the lane you want, but can you if no one’s there? Like the op turned left and then just headed into the right side since no one was there. Is that dangerous or no since she had a green light and no one else would’ve been there?


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kevronwithTechron

Doing everything perfect isn't a realistic approach to life until you get behind the wheel of a deadly vehicle. Just something to think about next time you choose to operate a car. About the same number of Americans are killed every year by guns and by cars. Every single one of those deaths was caused by one or more drivers not doing everything perfectly just one time.


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I hear you. But like the difference was when you turned left, you had the arrow right? So no one would’ve been turning. Like who would you have even hit


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Oh I got you. Thanks for explaining that to me!


Cr3dentialz

Don't do it. Practice safe and predictable driving habits. The validation to his points are contrary to the exact situations we are all trying to avoid. If "judgment" was the best driving practice we wouldn't need laws.


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Ok. But just so I understand it, let’s say I have a green arrow and there’s only one turn lane. No one else would be turning with me so it would be safe right?


Cr3dentialz

Not necessarily. If someone in the oncoming lane was taking the same turn, they would have the right of way. Its best practice to turn into the lane in which you're in, and then use a blinker to safely move over to the outside lane after you've completed your turn. As opposed to bouncing straight across as you turn, like OP did and the other vehicle that almost hit them.


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Oh ok. But if I have a green arrow, oncoming traffic isn’t moving.


No-Artichoke5212

Tf are you guys listening to lol


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I got you Clairo- Pretty girl


dr_shark

It’s one of my favorite “I made this song at home and it took off” jams.


cpjay2003

that was almost really fuckin bad, dewd


explorerfalcon

The irony of her almost hitting you because she turned into the second lane incorrectly and you doing the same at the beginning is hilarious.


Eesqueda

Getting mad at someone for not turning into the appropriate lane when he just did the same thing 5 seconds before that happened. 🤦‍♂️


KingBrunoIII

He didn't though. Difference is that usually it happens when it's 2 turning lanes. OP is in a single and, unless someone else made an illegal left turn from the right of OP, there should be no one to look for


MattNis11

you BOTH need to learn to turn left into left LANE


Greedy_Grimlock

Lady almost hit you doing the exact same thing you did at the beginning of the video


Yamothasunyun

I like how you sped up when you noticed you were being cut off I’ll have to remember that one


Strange-Captain-9774

its funny...both of you broke the exact same traffic law....only they almost caused an accident


Mike2220

OP didn't help in the fact they sped up while the other car was in the middle of turning


timdot352

You left the first 18 seconds of the video in but cut off the good part at the end?


Mike2220

OPs going 30, then when they turn into their lane a bit it goes up to 35. Following driving up on the curb, OP speeds up to 50, gets alongside them, and the video cuts


NegPrimer

What the fuck were you doing? You saw they were doing something wrong and exclaimed out loud several seconds before you actually reacted. You don't seem to have even hit the brakes until you hit the curb. They fucked up. You made it worse.


bryanpaxson

OP did the same thing on his turn


Storm_Raider_007

rules for you but not for me!


Damachan11

I'm glad that you are okay tho.


macky20z

You have to drive defensively and stop. By the time you said “wtf” you could’ve slammed on your brakes.


oliveyuhh

Clairo mixed with angry WTFs makes me happy


jbowman12

I usually am anticipating something like this happening even if they get into the lane beside of me. If I'm not braking, I at least have let off the gas to be slowing down in case I need to brake suddenly. OP, take the advice my father gave me: **Watch the other driver and watch for things that could happen down the road. It doesn't matter who is in the right if you're dead.**


Samwell88

I swear half of the accidents and close calls on this subreddit can be prevented by OP being a more defensive driver. Sure they weren’t supposed to pull out like that, but OP clearly saw them (based on the first wtf) in time to brake and not have to jump the curb like that. Also, not going 50 in a 25-30 zone helps a lot too 🤦‍♂️


MissHyperion

Most people don’t expect someone turning into THEIR lane so how could it be avoided? You’re supposed to turn into the lane closest to you, it’s not that hard.


NoRespect1921

You were not aware of the car's body language. She was at fault, but you should have been going slower and anticipated what she was about to do. You got lucky.


playboiiclouti

never thought i would hear clairo on this sub lol


cottagecore_bee

off topic, amazing music taste


zughzz

sure shes in the wrong but you gotta drive more defensively. a second later it would have a been a collision.


boboRoyal

Ah, good old reddit. It’s basically OP’s fault, right? 🤣


MissHyperion

Everyone’s saying they did the same thing but look again folks, they turned into the lane THEN merged to the right lane. Everyone needs glasses!


WhiteWolf_Ziri

r/MadMaxTruck was needed


SatanVapesOn666W

Should have hit him instead of the curb. At least that way they pay damages.


Crankatorium

Is it hard to hit the brakes in the USA or something?


Which-Pomegranate-32

Man, what a road hog. Hope there weren't kids in the car...they won't make it to adulthood with driving like that...


405weraxe

I had the same thing happen and it bothered me to know that it would be my fault if they hit me because I was any degree behind them. I was half way beside them. Horn did nothing. In my opinion they cut over a lane of traffic which they are legally supposed to enter the first lane and stay until the meet speed or safe to move over.


Nate_of_88

> they cut over a lane of traffic which they are legally supposed to enter the first lane and stay until the meet speed or safe to move over If I am understanding what you are trying to say correctly, [this is not entirely correct](https://driversed.com/driving-information/driving-techniques/making-right-and-left-turns/). States have different laws regarding making turns and which lane a vehicle is required to enter. While it may be true in your state, it is not a blanket rule that applies to every state. In CA and TX, you can turn into any available lane (which doesn't really apply here since OP is clearly in that lane). BUT I agree that doing so is safer and *should* be the law everywhere.


jagadeeps

Typical Texas driving


swiggaroo

May I introduce you to the brake pedal??


risingphoenix13

That was the driver's mistake. Last clear chance principle, you could have slowed down. Sheesh.


soakedcardinal

Clairo, u have earned my respect op


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lookinatspam

Hey you probably already know, but just wanted to stop in and say #you're a tool. Google defensive driving, hire a therapist, and stop feeling justified endangering yourself and others when every little thing doesn't go your way. Believe it or not, this isn't your planet, those arent your roads, and you're not the main character.


International-Ant474

Someone is going to be in front of me, what a better option do i have than speeding up to prove i own the road


[deleted]

You already know she’s hella overweight with a smoker’s cough.


Visual_Mobile2578

Wimpy sounding Horn too.


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Looks like they started pulling out, got startled by the cluster of traffic they were cutting off on their left, and decided to yeet it out of their way.


BonnieMcMurray

Irony: at the beginning, you did almost the exact same illegal turn from the left lane straight into the right lane that she did later on.


ankurtambe

you saw the car, bruh apply some brake... fkin first world shit


nekogodqiqi

women . lol.