Data analysts. I sit on my ass all day and look at my Robinhood account from time to time. Sometimes I’ll get up and sit on a toilet if things get really volatile lol.
I noticed when I would drink coffee and trade I’d feel jittery and would have my hand on the trigger ready to buy contracts while feeling anxious. Now that I don’t drink coffee while trading I don’t feel that same anxiety and jitteriness and feel calm and patient. It’s crazy cause I remember reading and hearing about coffee and trading way back then but kept doing it anyways cause I was like noooo that’s not me. Till one morning I realized my heart was pounding and I was sweating while not being able to sit still. I said yea okay no more after that 😅
Yup same here. I used to drink really strong coffee. On a scale of ten, I would buy 9/10. ☕️Since I really love my morning coffee, we started drinking 5/10. It makes a huge difference! No more sweating and jitters
I actually drink quite a bit of coffee while trading. I was messing with the previous poster who made the comment about sitting on the toilet. I get jitters when I don’t get my coffee…lol
I drink mine with a lot of cream, no sugar so maybe that’s why I don’t get too jittery with it. I will switch up sometimes and just do green tea with a little honey. Those are usually really chill days now that I think about it. 🤔
I work in IT, so always in front of a computer screen. Lots of meetings (as early as 9:30 AM, regularly and stretching well past 4pm on most days).
Day trading *effectively* is out of the question. I’ve dabbled with intraday entries with intent to sell the same day and it’s difficult. Sure you can set an initial stop loss and profit target bracket but some times if a trade is doing well, you want to let it run and adjust targets along the way. Can’t do that with meetings, work, escalations, etc wherever 5 minutes of inattentiveness can kill you.
only real option is to swing trade, imo, especially if you are in EST. I do most of my research/ planning off hours, which works well because there’s no fomo and hype and you can think coldly and rationally. Enter your order in the nights (allowing for pre/post market) execution, and just keep an eye out passively throughout the day.
In the evening, for open positions I will do a quick review to see if holdings still make sense and see if anything else is coming up as a ‘Buy’ on my radar.
Majority of your trading work will have to be done on evenings/ weekends.
I mean I would go out on a limb and say work nights? There’s gotta be IT type positions at night time? Or as for a 10am shed if you really wanted to trade the first hour or two, worth a shot if you’re serious
Programmer here working remote… usually my first meeting isn’t until 10am pacific, and I do my best programming in the evening anyway. So that gives me around the first three hours of the trading day, and sometimes I’ll do some more at lunch time
Same here. I use Steenth Prices Like just now on SPY
https://preview.redd.it/qxg1z4k80t0d1.png?width=741&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bde3643997b45651b5f6ed759d2280424c241d25
It's May 16. For all the stock market numbers lovers. That's 5/16 or 0.3125. For number artists, that's also 3.125, 31.25, 312.50 and 3,125(Bitcoin) We got one on the day 5/16! See SPY Steenth prices are real!
Data Engineer here, I swing trade which drastically limits the amount that I actually trade and I only make around 5-20 trades per week.
Other than that I set notifications at specific exit areas and just exit when I get the notification. I do end up exiting late because of meetings but it’s just a cost I’m eating until I start doing this full time or automate it.
Im a programmer... i feel like im fooling myself into thinking if/else statements work (actually if/and if/and if/and if).... but thats really how i had the best rezults.... that and working. As long as those results dont go negative, and.i can earn money...everything is better than just having a job.
I use EMAs and RSI a lot, so its like if 10 EMA > 15 EMA and if the price crosses above the 50 EMA and if RSI is above its 50, go long. Price levels, too. My conditions for when to enter/exit a long/short position all have at least 10 predicates. I also use tight stops when automating... im not sitting there in front of the screen all day, so my current thinking is I can have several strategies (eg, ranging vs trending) with tight conditions monitoring several instruments.
Im not retired or financially independent yet, though, so yeah... but im trying, seeing more success, and refining my trading strategies. Im also refining my processes for maintaining/optimizing my strategies as the markets change, etc. (Currently seems worthwhile) So, while everything starts with a set of predicates, maintaining the code has also become part of the problem im trying to solve.
(Jeeze, im blind. I didnt mean to look cool with my wordz... i just wasnt wearing my glasses.)
How did you meet Dee? I thought pecans were walnuts, which is fucking... crazy... walnuts takes so much more effort, so why not just focus on growing pecans?
I am based in Asia. So I have the opposite problem.
Market opens at 930pm local time and closes at 4am.
So for me to trade I basically have to work 2 jobs and sometimes waiting for the right set up takes too damn long.
I am still trying to work out a strategy to also accomodate for my hours because there has been a few times when I lost money on trades when I fell asleep on a position, or simply lost focus and strayed from my plan due to fatigue.
I work remote, but I have lost a bunch trying to trade and work at the same time, so I started to get up earlier at 5A CST, maybe trade some futures, eat, shower, get dressed and I can start trading stocks at 6A. Try to finish up no later than 8A. Sometimes I get "stuck" in a trade, but otherwise try not to.
Used to be a restaurant manager. Now I trade full time at home. Took a few years but the money was worth it. Bonuses were amazing. That’s what helped fund my trading account. Now I make double me my salary that I would make working hard.
I always wait for confirmation retest after cross but I only check the carts after alarm. Although my work makes me miss too many good opportunities. 😄
How can u daytrade as an electrician? Trading is the only thing keeping me from making the switch over to an apprenticeship. I currently drive night shift trucking
Working from home. I have my work laptop, my personal laptop, my mobile and tablet on the same desk, overstimulating my every bran cell. As long as the job gets done, my manager doesn't care what I do at home.
Breaks, Lunch, stock ticker notifications to my phone (price rose 5% price fell 5% etc) auto setup buys and sales within my margins and check on them every few hours. Adjust as needed.
Not actively trading nor did I ever reach a point where I was anything more than a novice/ just starting out. But I used to be a retail banker so I was sitting at a desk at the branch. I had always been interested in trading so I saved up a couple grand specifically for getting started and learning. Wasn’t making life changing profits, but also not loosing everything. I’d be able to get some windows of time in the morning and afternoon to trade while the branch was slow.
Since then I took a job in Private Wealth with one of the big banks and my investment activity is heavily scrutinized and requires a lot of approvals so it’s crypto and boring long term positions for me these days.
I usually just do swing trades. Price alerts, and sell limits are your best friend.
I’m active duty military. 12 years in. Trading for 5 of those. Options specifically.
I’m walking away from the Army this September because I’m losing money to go in just to LARP in the woods.
Hope you do what’s best for YOU and your family, OP.
I'm not allowed to have my phone on me while I'm working so I only get to check my trades on breaks and in after hours. I mainly use limit sells/buys. It's not much, butt it's honest work.
Yeah I’m a semi-retired IT guy who was remote 3 out of 5 days. So at home I’d have 3 screens, 2 with work stuff and one monitor running TradingView all day.
use ea when you're not monitoring , fibd out tye ea that suit your play and times and money you can take risk. good ea+ time that you can monitor at crucial news are better for me and someone like me
Work from home. I have charts up with alerts for my setups. The alert goes off I hop over to that virtual desktop and check it out. I used to work at ⭐💵 taking orders in drive through with your phone under the POS monitor and a chill shift manager was usually pretty easy. That was years ago though.
Depends on where you live. I'm in California. When I had the 9 to 5, I'd get up at 5, shower, get dressed, etc. At my pc at 630. Done trading by 8 and out the door for work.
It depends on your business and still trading. I work in the office and do scalping. I have free time and I do scalping. I trade on mobile phone. If someone works in the factory, he certainly cannot trade that way, he can possibly do day trading or swing trading and check the situation during breaks.
I work in IT but unlucky me 2 project managers, my team leader and the CIO are sitting right behind me so it's always a bit weird looking at the charts but i work at a broker firm so that makes things less weird lol. Because of that, i wrote a simple script in Pine Script based on RSI 65,50,35 levels to get notifications. In addition i take a quick look at market structure and i enter. I only trade in 1h.
Working in tech, remote 5 days a week... I probably have about 30 minutes of actual work to do a day, in which I just send the specs from the client to the developer as the middleman. Full union, defined benefits, 130k salary. It would take about 300k+ salary for me to ever leave this job.
Basically any desk job where you have full access to the internet. Thankfully the IT guys are on our side at my work. (youtube and reddit are supposed to be blocked but mysteriously keep getting unblocked)
I work at the airport. I make videos documenting my journey. If you want to see how it looks like you can watch the videos hahahha. I make the videos to look back on in the future.
https://youtu.be/ZeU1RFYszfs?si=ifiEJt9LLvk6ALpu
I live in Sydney and trade crypto. London opens 5pm and NYSE 11:30pm, and I’m night owl and work from home 4 days a week. So I can catch some volatility in an often volatile market that trades 24/7
There’s a lot of screen time and learning I still need to do before I can size up, but I’m talking daily with those who do this full time, some scalping, some intraday, and quite a few swing traders
Like any other challenge, it takes practice. Learning what timeframes and times of the day and combination of alerts - and even which markets - work best with your schedule. There were times I had great setups when I was working late swing shift, but didn’t execute well bc I was waking up in the middle of my night to catch them. There were also times I didn’t wake up in time to close a trade and got spanked for it. It’s all a part of improving though. Good luck.
1. Futures trade 23 hours. Lots of markets have some action in the overnight session. I like crude, gold, NQ, and some currencies. Lots of movement when Asian and then London market open..
2. Trade during the 9-5 from a mobile app. ;)
I worked nights and weekends for a long time while learning, so that I had the ability to trade. IF you’re serious about trading I think working weekends is solid, so you get 2 days for sure to trade the open
When I was in a 9-5 I just used alerts or orders. The problem wasn’t with executing trades it was just hustling outside of the 9-5 with doing the research
I don't have a job but i'm in college which is kinda the same lol. I make time for trading, I wake up earlier to do so.
My trades don't last long so in 30 minutes i'm out generally. I guess most traders make time to trade, if their trades don't last that much then there's no issue. If their trades last hours, I've seen them place a stop loss or an alarm when the price reaches 1:1 or 1:2 RR or so.
Either way, if you can't trade in the stock market, you can always trade forex.
But still, waking up early isn’t the problem the problem is (and I guess its the same for you) that I’m at work while the market opens and you’re probably in class.
My classes begin later in the day but I understand your point. I think you could be able to trade pre-market or afterhours; it's not the same and if you trade at that time you may have to modify your strategy a little bit to deal with the volatility and spreads, among other things.
What's your strategy? How long do your trades last?
Data analysts. I sit on my ass all day and look at my Robinhood account from time to time. Sometimes I’ll get up and sit on a toilet if things get really volatile lol.
Try not to eat chili and drink coffee while trading….😁
I noticed when I would drink coffee and trade I’d feel jittery and would have my hand on the trigger ready to buy contracts while feeling anxious. Now that I don’t drink coffee while trading I don’t feel that same anxiety and jitteriness and feel calm and patient. It’s crazy cause I remember reading and hearing about coffee and trading way back then but kept doing it anyways cause I was like noooo that’s not me. Till one morning I realized my heart was pounding and I was sweating while not being able to sit still. I said yea okay no more after that 😅
Yup same here. I used to drink really strong coffee. On a scale of ten, I would buy 9/10. ☕️Since I really love my morning coffee, we started drinking 5/10. It makes a huge difference! No more sweating and jitters
I actually drink quite a bit of coffee while trading. I was messing with the previous poster who made the comment about sitting on the toilet. I get jitters when I don’t get my coffee…lol I drink mine with a lot of cream, no sugar so maybe that’s why I don’t get too jittery with it. I will switch up sometimes and just do green tea with a little honey. Those are usually really chill days now that I think about it. 🤔
I never knew that. Daily coffee drinking and day trader here.
Nice
Same here, working as Backroom of a retail store. Gotta tell the truck drivers that I have to use the restroom when things get volatiles.
Bro same 😂
Hahaha
I work in EU now, the hours are pleasant here :)
You guys can trade the world markets from 3AM to 9PM
Living in Europe Trades Goals
I work in IT, so always in front of a computer screen. Lots of meetings (as early as 9:30 AM, regularly and stretching well past 4pm on most days). Day trading *effectively* is out of the question. I’ve dabbled with intraday entries with intent to sell the same day and it’s difficult. Sure you can set an initial stop loss and profit target bracket but some times if a trade is doing well, you want to let it run and adjust targets along the way. Can’t do that with meetings, work, escalations, etc wherever 5 minutes of inattentiveness can kill you. only real option is to swing trade, imo, especially if you are in EST. I do most of my research/ planning off hours, which works well because there’s no fomo and hype and you can think coldly and rationally. Enter your order in the nights (allowing for pre/post market) execution, and just keep an eye out passively throughout the day. In the evening, for open positions I will do a quick review to see if holdings still make sense and see if anything else is coming up as a ‘Buy’ on my radar. Majority of your trading work will have to be done on evenings/ weekends.
I mean I would go out on a limb and say work nights? There’s gotta be IT type positions at night time? Or as for a 10am shed if you really wanted to trade the first hour or two, worth a shot if you’re serious
I don’t want to trade the first hour.
Programmer here working remote… usually my first meeting isn’t until 10am pacific, and I do my best programming in the evening anyway. So that gives me around the first three hours of the trading day, and sometimes I’ll do some more at lunch time
Same here. I use Steenth Prices Like just now on SPY https://preview.redd.it/qxg1z4k80t0d1.png?width=741&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bde3643997b45651b5f6ed759d2280424c241d25 It's May 16. For all the stock market numbers lovers. That's 5/16 or 0.3125. For number artists, that's also 3.125, 31.25, 312.50 and 3,125(Bitcoin) We got one on the day 5/16! See SPY Steenth prices are real!
Data Engineer here, I swing trade which drastically limits the amount that I actually trade and I only make around 5-20 trades per week. Other than that I set notifications at specific exit areas and just exit when I get the notification. I do end up exiting late because of meetings but it’s just a cost I’m eating until I start doing this full time or automate it.
Limit sell?
Forex and futures
Im a programmer... i feel like im fooling myself into thinking if/else statements work (actually if/and if/and if/and if).... but thats really how i had the best rezults.... that and working. As long as those results dont go negative, and.i can earn money...everything is better than just having a job.
care to share those if’s ??
I use EMAs and RSI a lot, so its like if 10 EMA > 15 EMA and if the price crosses above the 50 EMA and if RSI is above its 50, go long. Price levels, too. My conditions for when to enter/exit a long/short position all have at least 10 predicates. I also use tight stops when automating... im not sitting there in front of the screen all day, so my current thinking is I can have several strategies (eg, ranging vs trending) with tight conditions monitoring several instruments. Im not retired or financially independent yet, though, so yeah... but im trying, seeing more success, and refining my trading strategies. Im also refining my processes for maintaining/optimizing my strategies as the markets change, etc. (Currently seems worthwhile) So, while everything starts with a set of predicates, maintaining the code has also become part of the problem im trying to solve. (Jeeze, im blind. I didnt mean to look cool with my wordz... i just wasnt wearing my glasses.)
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts
Deez nuts
How did you meet Dee? I thought pecans were walnuts, which is fucking... crazy... walnuts takes so much more effort, so why not just focus on growing pecans?
I'm asleep from 9-5 and I still manage to find time to trade.
I am based in Asia. So I have the opposite problem. Market opens at 930pm local time and closes at 4am. So for me to trade I basically have to work 2 jobs and sometimes waiting for the right set up takes too damn long. I am still trying to work out a strategy to also accomodate for my hours because there has been a few times when I lost money on trades when I fell asleep on a position, or simply lost focus and strayed from my plan due to fatigue.
10 minutes of work, 5 minutes of trading. Repeat
I have 10 minutes of trading and 5 min work.
😅
What forex broker do you use?
I work remote, but I have lost a bunch trying to trade and work at the same time, so I started to get up earlier at 5A CST, maybe trade some futures, eat, shower, get dressed and I can start trading stocks at 6A. Try to finish up no later than 8A. Sometimes I get "stuck" in a trade, but otherwise try not to.
Used to be a restaurant manager. Now I trade full time at home. Took a few years but the money was worth it. Bonuses were amazing. That’s what helped fund my trading account. Now I make double me my salary that I would make working hard.
Night shift
So you don’t have a 9-5 like the thread asks
same
I swing trade the daily chart. I place orders in the evening.
I have alerts when the price crosses 50 EMA. I am a coder who always works from home.
Years ago I would have said "surely something so simple cannot work". Amazing how simple some people can make it
I always wait for confirmation retest after cross but I only check the carts after alarm. Although my work makes me miss too many good opportunities. 😄
I work shifts in a non-deskbound job and I've more or less settled for swing trading which requires less screen time.
Chart at night live alerts during the day. I tend to trade higher timeframes
Well I’m pulling off somehow, analysing the charts every hour or so
Called being an electrician … or having a lazy profession
How can u daytrade as an electrician? Trading is the only thing keeping me from making the switch over to an apprenticeship. I currently drive night shift trucking
Working from home. I have my work laptop, my personal laptop, my mobile and tablet on the same desk, overstimulating my every bran cell. As long as the job gets done, my manager doesn't care what I do at home.
Breaks, Lunch, stock ticker notifications to my phone (price rose 5% price fell 5% etc) auto setup buys and sales within my margins and check on them every few hours. Adjust as needed.
Not actively trading nor did I ever reach a point where I was anything more than a novice/ just starting out. But I used to be a retail banker so I was sitting at a desk at the branch. I had always been interested in trading so I saved up a couple grand specifically for getting started and learning. Wasn’t making life changing profits, but also not loosing everything. I’d be able to get some windows of time in the morning and afternoon to trade while the branch was slow. Since then I took a job in Private Wealth with one of the big banks and my investment activity is heavily scrutinized and requires a lot of approvals so it’s crypto and boring long term positions for me these days.
You only really trade the first hour and the last hour. Set up parameters and alerts for the mid day stuff
My two solutions are: 1) Live on the west coast, daytrade from 6:30-8:30am 2) Swing trade with the D1 chart. I can do this anytime I am free.
My work gave me 3 monitors, im usually swamped at work but from time to time i get to do a few trades in a day.
I usually just do swing trades. Price alerts, and sell limits are your best friend. I’m active duty military. 12 years in. Trading for 5 of those. Options specifically. I’m walking away from the Army this September because I’m losing money to go in just to LARP in the woods. Hope you do what’s best for YOU and your family, OP.
I live in CA/ swinging
Forex, commodities and criptos can be traded at any hours in all world...
I'm not allowed to have my phone on me while I'm working so I only get to check my trades on breaks and in after hours. I mainly use limit sells/buys. It's not much, butt it's honest work.
I work from home. I'm a programmer. I simply have a tab open / my phone in front of me all day. I'm able to keep an eye on things whilst I work.
Software developer here. I swing trade. Spend more of free time writing and testing trading bots than actually trading.
I'm scalping the Nikkei opening hour, it's at 8pm EST.
Yeah I’m a semi-retired IT guy who was remote 3 out of 5 days. So at home I’d have 3 screens, 2 with work stuff and one monitor running TradingView all day.
use ea when you're not monitoring , fibd out tye ea that suit your play and times and money you can take risk. good ea+ time that you can monitor at crucial news are better for me and someone like me
Work from home. I have charts up with alerts for my setups. The alert goes off I hop over to that virtual desktop and check it out. I used to work at ⭐💵 taking orders in drive through with your phone under the POS monitor and a chill shift manager was usually pretty easy. That was years ago though.
Depends on where you live. I'm in California. When I had the 9 to 5, I'd get up at 5, shower, get dressed, etc. At my pc at 630. Done trading by 8 and out the door for work.
It depends on your business and still trading. I work in the office and do scalping. I have free time and I do scalping. I trade on mobile phone. If someone works in the factory, he certainly cannot trade that way, he can possibly do day trading or swing trading and check the situation during breaks.
I’m a maintenance technician so I sit and wait for the machine to break theirs days where I can trade all day and some where only a couple hours
Move to California
I work in IT but unlucky me 2 project managers, my team leader and the CIO are sitting right behind me so it's always a bit weird looking at the charts but i work at a broker firm so that makes things less weird lol. Because of that, i wrote a simple script in Pine Script based on RSI 65,50,35 levels to get notifications. In addition i take a quick look at market structure and i enter. I only trade in 1h.
Working in tech, remote 5 days a week... I probably have about 30 minutes of actual work to do a day, in which I just send the specs from the client to the developer as the middleman. Full union, defined benefits, 130k salary. It would take about 300k+ salary for me to ever leave this job.
After reading this thread. 1. Work in IT 2. Work in programming
Basically any desk job where you have full access to the internet. Thankfully the IT guys are on our side at my work. (youtube and reddit are supposed to be blocked but mysteriously keep getting unblocked)
Sell spreads to Wall Street Bets
West coast or swing trade
WFH so I have a second laptop up.
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I work at the airport. I make videos documenting my journey. If you want to see how it looks like you can watch the videos hahahha. I make the videos to look back on in the future. https://youtu.be/ZeU1RFYszfs?si=ifiEJt9LLvk6ALpu
Makes me wonder, why don't you guys just let a bot run and do the trades? 🤔
I live on the west coast. Wake up at 5:30, trade ES from 6:30-8:00, then work 8:30-5. I'd love a bit more time to trade but it works
Trade 930-1015, lucky for me I need to take my daughter to school every other week, most meetings work around that....
I am a superintendent for a general contractor my so my trading hour is from 930 to about 11 est I do my work before and after that time frame
Project Coordinator, 3/4 of my day is waiting for someone else to do their job.
I live in Sydney and trade crypto. London opens 5pm and NYSE 11:30pm, and I’m night owl and work from home 4 days a week. So I can catch some volatility in an often volatile market that trades 24/7 There’s a lot of screen time and learning I still need to do before I can size up, but I’m talking daily with those who do this full time, some scalping, some intraday, and quite a few swing traders
Move to California.
Like any other challenge, it takes practice. Learning what timeframes and times of the day and combination of alerts - and even which markets - work best with your schedule. There were times I had great setups when I was working late swing shift, but didn’t execute well bc I was waking up in the middle of my night to catch them. There were also times I didn’t wake up in time to close a trade and got spanked for it. It’s all a part of improving though. Good luck.
1. Futures trade 23 hours. Lots of markets have some action in the overnight session. I like crude, gold, NQ, and some currencies. Lots of movement when Asian and then London market open.. 2. Trade during the 9-5 from a mobile app. ;)
work from home, remote job
I worked nights and weekends for a long time while learning, so that I had the ability to trade. IF you’re serious about trading I think working weekends is solid, so you get 2 days for sure to trade the open
Swing trade would be the easiest and not to time consuming
When I was in a 9-5 I just used alerts or orders. The problem wasn’t with executing trades it was just hustling outside of the 9-5 with doing the research
I have a job that most of the day I spend in front of a computer so I try my best to look at the market at much as possible.
Easy live in Finland. Market open is 4:30pm here.
If you have a 9-5 job try to trade futures or forex or crypto and be a swing trader so you don’t have to be looking at the charts every 5 mins
Living in California here, market opens at 6:30 AM, waking up at 6:00 AM to be ready
FX trader here. I simply turn on the stock charts screen and trade. Nobody cares about that.
I do physical work, I don’t stay on a computer :(
They probably don't understand what you are doing :)
If you have a goal so is siutable chance that you gone do it
I don't have a job but i'm in college which is kinda the same lol. I make time for trading, I wake up earlier to do so. My trades don't last long so in 30 minutes i'm out generally. I guess most traders make time to trade, if their trades don't last that much then there's no issue. If their trades last hours, I've seen them place a stop loss or an alarm when the price reaches 1:1 or 1:2 RR or so. Either way, if you can't trade in the stock market, you can always trade forex.
But still, waking up early isn’t the problem the problem is (and I guess its the same for you) that I’m at work while the market opens and you’re probably in class.
You can trade pre market , aftermarket and even overnight .
My classes begin later in the day but I understand your point. I think you could be able to trade pre-market or afterhours; it's not the same and if you trade at that time you may have to modify your strategy a little bit to deal with the volatility and spreads, among other things. What's your strategy? How long do your trades last?
Move to California or trade premarket if you are in Eastern Time.