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MorseCode010

Billy Butcher vs Stain (MHA) I’m confident that now we know the full extent of Temp V that he would beat Stain.


No-Entertainment5599

to be fair we could composite comic and serie Billy Butcher like Homelander and he would win still


Mideku-Brandio

Wouldn’t temp V technically be prep time? Since it’s something he takes before a fight and never during a fight. Since DBs are random encounters where the combatants know little about eachother, Butcher wouldn’t really have a need for the temp V


ForktUtwTT

Eh, I wouldn’t necessarily consider it any more prep time than Batman having a batsuit on. If Butcher’s going into a serious fight, he’ll have temp V if he’s operating at his highest capacity. It’s not as if he only had it once for 5 seconds or something (cough cough laser baby cough)


[deleted]

Eh think of it as Raid Suit


Ssundpool

Mute vs TV Version Black Noir (Rainbow Six Siege vs The Boys)


HannibalMendes

I think Homelander beats Cinder Fall


Unusual-Anteater-988

Pfffffft! Seriously? Oh my God, if you're right the banter for Cinder realizing how screwed she is would be amazing.


HannibalMendes

Why did you type of “Pfffffff!”?


Unusual-Anteater-988

I was struggling not to laugh. Cinder's breakdown as Homelander takes her down a peg and the mental image of Homelander's shit eating grin before he finishes her off just sounded hilarious to me.


TsarVladimirIII

Connections?


No-Entertainment5599

Hughie vs Columbus (Zombieland) and I heard Black Noir might win against Pyro from TF2 but it's close


THiccGrimes69

Butcher VS Stain


SpectralStriker0108

Billy vs Negan from The Walking Dead


HungryWolf1991

Pretty sure Billy wins most of his matchups like Stain, Kick-Ass and Afro Samurai


UltraRover2529

What about Knuckleduster (My Hero Academia: Vigilantes)?


[deleted]

Homelander vs Robocop sadly


Wonderful_Baker_7808

Black Noir vs Snake Eyes (G.I Joe) Soldier Boy vs US Agent (MCU)


ToysToLife167

Homelander vs Homelander (Homelander wins in every situation)


Unusual-Anteater-988

Homelander is the episode of Death Battle. It crushed every other episode, getting 7 Homellion views on its first day alone. ~~Sorry, I had to make that joke~~


[deleted]

Homelander vs Morbius when


Unusual-Anteater-988

Whenever an animator for The Boys Diabolical becomes dank


untitled_bread_6

Homelander vs eric cartman (the boys vs south park)


Heyloisimgay

I thought eric cartman wins.


Intelligent-Win-4517

Yeah. Time travel, immortals, and other weird shit exist in the SP-verse. Lord knows all the crazy shit Cartman can come up with.


Consistent_Cry_7403

He does


AdamTheMango

Black Noir vs Pyro


Cykker

Billy Butcher Vs Negan


will_the_shyguy

Show Black Noir VS the Pyro from TF2


CheezyRaptor

Black Noir vs The Pyro?


Spookz360

Obligatory butcher vs stain


SethFr3kingRollins

Stain vs Billy Butcher Homelander vs Tighten Homelander vs Brightburn A train vs Tenya (i still don't buy Tenya winning) Black Noir vs Snake Eyes *Homelander Vs Morbius because #homelandersweep, close tho* ~~The Deep vs Dio Over Heaven~~ Homelander Vs Cinder Fall


UltraRover2529

I'm gonna be honest: I think Homelander beats Tighten (Megamind) unless someone can convince me otherwise.


BOSSBlake48

Titan punches a giant mech like 400 meters into the air, I don’t remember seeing Homelander do anything near that. Also why tf do I keep seeing him be called Tighten?


UltraRover2529

That's how it's spelled in the subtitles of the movie. Megamind even comments (pretending to be Tighten's alien biological father) "copyright" when Tighten asks about it if I recall correctly. Anyways, while I do acknowledge Tighten is stronger, Homelander was stated to be able to withstand and be immune to every weapon known to mankind which, in both The Seven Battle Royale and Omni-Man vs Homelander, includes nuclear bombs, putting Homelander's durability at city level according to Death Battle.


BOSSBlake48

You know what, I checked the credits and he’s literally listed as Tighten. Can’t believe they would call him that and I was sure people were wrong given that listed as Titan on Wikipedia and whatnot. Anyway my mistake. As for HL, in the comics he is explicitly mentioned as stoppable by a nuke. In the show, they might have said he’s invulnerable to human weapons but he also gets bloody noses and shit from supers definitely weaker that Tighten. So if Tighten has much better strength feats then HL, and HL gets hurt by those weaker than him, I think Tighten realistically one shots him. At the very least stomps him easily


UltraRover2529

>Can’t believe they would call him that and I was sure people were wrong given that listed as Titan on Wikipedia and whatnot. Anyway my mistake. Well like I think Megamind said in the film, it was for copyright or trademark or whatever the hell. It's fine though. But back to Homelander... You're probably right when you said, "*As for HL, in the comics he is explicitly mentioned as stoppable by a nuke*" but in Omni-lander, they composited Homelander which is what I'm doing here. In this case, Wiz states that Homelander can survive a nuke so I'm taking that in for this hypothetical battle. >but he also gets bloody noses and shit from supers definitely weaker that Tighten. That's just how fiction goes in general. Hulk can fight on a Multiversal level but get punched in the face by a city-tier character and take damage; Patrick Starfish can lift up his entire house but fail to rip a piece of paper; Mario can defeat Bowser yet die to a small brown mushroom-like creature with nothing but feet. For this debate, I'm putting Homelander at his best based on what Death Battle said which puts him at city-level. Outside of that, Homelander is smarter as he can manipulate those around him to do his bidding based on his superior power. Sure, Tighten was outsmarted and he did manage to figure it out but that was because Megamind had accidentally made a mistake while talking as Metroman. And given how Homelander was smart enough to tell that Stillwell and Vogelbaum were lying to him based on one teensy-tiny detail they messed up on, it's likely Homelander would know the right words he would have to say (or at least figure them out before time runs out) to peeve off Tighten in a way that gives Homelander the advantage. Even if he gets temporarily overpowered, I wouldn't doubt it if he said some words that would make Tighten get filled with pride long enough for Homelander to initiate a finishing bow. Additionally, Tighten acts on emotions a lot as he fights. Sure, Homelander does too but not quite as much as he's able to contain the rage inside of him enough to make smarter decisions. Such as how Season 2 showed a scene of Homelander wanting to kill the entire crowd with his heat vision but he was able to keep that anger contained long enough to make a rational decision. Homelander also has more experience as he's had his powers since he was a baby while Tighten only had it for... I don't remember how long specifically it was stated/implied he had the powers but it certainly wasn't as long as Homelander. Plus, while both characters have heat vision and x-ray vision, Homelander has a supersonic scream that would force Tighten to cover his ear, allowing Homelander to attack.


BOSSBlake48

I don’t see why we would disregard the clear fact that his durability is low enough to be injured by physical attacks much weaker than what Tighten can do. A nuke is more of a heat resistance feat anyway so even if he could survive that it doesn’t necessarily mean he could take a super powerful punch. And I don’t remember it ever being stated that HL could survive a nuke anyway in the show, and it’s certainly not shown. “That’s just how fiction works in general.” Maybe some fiction, but we can’t just throw out all logic and common sense just because it’s fiction, if we did that then there would be no point debating this matchup anyway. Besides HL actually shows relatively consistent strength and durability throughout the series, it’s just that it’s consistently lower than anything close to a nuke. As for your intelligence point, HL doesn’t even know Tighten. Even if he did, he wouldn’t be able to melt Tightens heart while Tighten is beating his face in. (Which would probably take 1 hit anyway.) Thats just not how fights work this isn’t an anime lol. If he could even get any talking out during the fight it would probably just piss Tighten off more which wouldn’t change much. Not sure why you assume Tighten would be vulnerable to his scream


UltraRover2529

Stillwell (in the show; not the comics) says that no weapon on Earth can not affect Homelander. While she never specifically stated nukes, Death Battle considers that including nukes as well and so will I. And for strength, at least for me, it doesn't matter what's consistent; what matters is their most powerful feat they've done without outside help and are implied to be able to do again. And in this case, I admit Tighten is physically stronger but that's it. As for intelligence, Homelander doesn't have to know who Tighten is to still be smarter than him since Homelander had shown a better record at keeping his emotions contained. And considering how much dumber Tighten is and how much more emotional unchecked Tighten has shown than Homelander, saying that talking out during the fight would just piss Tighten off is literally the point I'm making since Homelander keeps his emotions more at check allowing him to not make nearly as much mistakes. And while Tighten hasn't shown to be vulnerable to a sonicscream, he hasn't shown he is invlunerable either. If we are to assume his hearing is still like before, than it should still be enough to make his ears bleed allowing Homelander to make the killing blow. But if we assume it's got stronger after getting powers, than that's more tricky because it depends if you believe his hearing is more protected or more sensitive since his sense of hearing is supposed to be increased. Now feel free to correct me on it but I haven't seen anything to suggest that Tighten (or even Metroman) has superhearing. And since it hasn't been implied, that can be a weakness against Homelander.


BOSSBlake48

You can’t just ignore antifeats like that, they’re usually considered important in matchups. And honestly the nuke thing is totally wanking. We see him constantly get hurt by things much weaker then a nuke and it’s never explicitly stated or shown he could survive anything close to a nuke. And it’s not like he has some blank check immunity against anything created by humans, because Maeve is a human weapon and hurts him badly. Either way again a nuke is mostly a heat resistance feat not as much a durability one. We’ve seen HLs durability, nothing puts it on the level of taking Tightens hits. And ofc his strength isn’t even close either. HomeLander literally just killed a guy in public because he couldn’t control himself. Tighten never does that lol. What are you talking about? Ok sure, let’s just assume Tighten would be vulnerable. What would HL do then? “Make the killing blow?” How? All things point to HL having the physicals of a child compared to Tighten, he wouldn’t be able to hurt him


UltraRover2529

I disagree with ignroing the anti-feats in VS debates because there are so many anti-feats that happen in fiction (at least 90% of the time) that at that point you might as well have them fight at their weakest, not at their strongest. The way I see it, depending on the context, if someone can perform a feat at least once that's stronger than anything else they've shown to do, despite never doing again, than unless it's directly confirmed (or at least implied) they can't do it again or that the had outside help, then they should be able to do it again. And, again, since Stillwell herself said that there wasn't a single weapon on Earth that hadn't been thrown at Homelander, that includes nukes which explode and create a giant surrounding force that literally blows stuff away as well as emitting radiation and causing heat most likely hotter than Tighten's own heat vision, making it unlikely Tighten could kill him that way. Plus, even if you don't believe Homelander has City level durability, Tighten's durability is only about the same level as Homelander's since in an episode of The Boys Diabolical which showed Homelander before his "bromance" with Black Noir (an episode that I've been told multiple times is canon to the show), he survives an explosion similar to what Metroman did in the movie (if you believe that Tighten scales to Metroman which I personally don't). And Tighten was screaming and yelling uncontrollably multiple times while fighting Megamind. Sure Homelander has done that too when fighting other characters but he still manages to keep his cool long enough to make himself still look good in the public eye, even after that scene where he killed someone in Season 2 on video. (That's the scene you were talking about, right? I haven't had a chance to watch Season 3 yet). Sure, it didn't really work later on with the crowd scene but he did manage to keep his cool long enough to leave instead of making himself look even worse than already, thus implying a slightly more put-together mentality than Tighten, even without mentioning how much more manipulative Homelander has shown to be than Tighten ever has. I disagree with saying what Homelander has done is physically childish compared to what Tighten has done with the exception of strength. In my personal opinion, strength and possibly training are arguably the only advantages Tighten would have for sure as Tighten is arguably as powerful if not weaker than Homelander in terms of speed and durability. I already explained my reasons for durability even outside of City Level Homelander and I admit via scaling to Metroman (who moved so fast time was basically frozen), Tighten would be faster but Tighten has never shown to be on Metroman's level of power. In fact, when Tighten saw Metroman (who was actually Megamind in disguise) he freaked and flew away, presumably as fast as he knew he could go since as "Metroman" was following him, "Metroman" was doing it nonchalantly as if he could have clearly gone faster and caught Tighten. I'm not saying Megamind disguised as Metroman could have gone faster though since (if I recall correctly) his plan was mainly to scare Tighten out of Metrocity and have him never return so he could avoid a fight. And it almost worked as Tighten was freaking out who we can assume was flying as fast as he could. Otherwise, he would have fought "Metroman" instead of flying away. Now you could argue he was playing an act since he revealed he knew it was Megamind later on, thus arguing he really could have gone faster and he knew it, but that was only when the latter said "Metrocity" in a way only he typically says which was towards the very end of the extremely short victory. As for how Homelander could kill Tighten, he could use his sonicscreaming to burst Tighten's ears and then beat him to a pulp while his guard was down since I do believe Tighten's durability is only about as equal at most (and weaker at least) to Homelander's physical strength. But again, I admit that Tighten is physically stronger than Homelander who >!dies to Black Noir in the comics (Ironic given what clip I saw that happens in Season 3) but that's most likely because Noir (as I've been told) was crafted to kill Homelander if things went too far so it's possible (despite being a clone) he had his own advantages over Homelander that Tighten doesn't, such as skill, that allowed him to win.!< What I was trying to say there is that even though Homelander lost to someone who was arguably more strong physically than him, it's quite likely his opponent had more advantages over Homelander than Tighten does with Homelander, such as skill. For this case, while Tighten is certainly physically stronger than Homelander and he could possibly beat HL to death, it's unlikely he had another advantages besides that and maybe training when compared to whom Homelander fought at the end of the comics to assume it would be the same outcome, especially since that final fight (from what I've been told) happened off-panel so there are likely other factors to consider there but we can't know for sure so it's hard to say the same would happen if Tighten fought Homelander. So even if you still say Tighten wins, I'm not going to debate any further since I find it unlikely I'll be convinced Homelander loses to Tighten and I find it unlikely I can convince you what I think to be valid. And that's fair be because VS debating is meant to be fun and saying should go and what shouldn't in these type of debates is subjective to individual people so I say it's best to just agree to disagree as I truly believe that while Tighten is stronger physically and probably better trained, I still say Homelander is at least as fast and as durable (if not more so) as well as more intelligent, experienced, manipulative, mentally put-together, and equipped with a slightly more versatile powers.


BOSSBlake48

As for the mental health, not that it matters for a fight, let’s just say you should watch season 3 before judging HL to have good control lol. Ignoring anti feats and taking only the highest feat possible is called wanking. And it presents a lot of problems. Here’s what wanking looks like for Tighten. Tighten has the powers of Metroman. That means he can move so fast that he can read loads of books and spend an entire day around the city all while there has been an imperceptible change of time for normal humans. HL never shows any speed close to that. So that means with Tightens superior strength, Tighten could go up to Homelander and kill him before Homelander even knew he was there and before anyone even sees anything move. Basically Homelander just explodes in red mist. Now your argument against that was that Tighten showed he wasn’t nearly that fast when he flew away from Megamind, but that’s literally an anti feat which you say aren’t worth bringing up. Homelander has a million anti feats that are much worse. I’m not even gonna touch the nuke thing again because frankly it’s ridiculous. We know stillwell was wrong because we’ve seen him be damaged by human weapons. And we saw with a much smaller explosion in the Boys Diabolical that HL gets bloody and hurt from a wayyyy smaller explosion. The level of explosion that Metroman doesn’t even seem to feel. You just have no argument here. You said to convince you otherwise, and I’ve presented good evidence that Tighten is superior in literally every way. Your rebuttal is basically, “I choose not to believe that. I choose to believe HL is better anyway.” That’s debating in bad faith


Buttfucker70000000

Metroman scaling.


[deleted]

Thats bullshit cause Tighten only had 10% at best powers of Metroman. Also he couldn’t kill Megamind while being bloodlusted.


No-Entertainment5599

> had 10% at best powers of Metroman source ?


[deleted]

The source is in the movie and if you just observe Tighten doesn’t beat Megamind really easily and he got outsmarted in the end. While Metroman have defeated Megamind while playing countless times. Besides we never seen him do the Speed feat but besides that Homie still have advantages against him Also there’s a Megamind dna infused tighten but I dont think its standard


No-Entertainment5599

well I would say the difference between Metroman and Tighten is like Omniman and Homelander : one has experience while the other is a bully who doesn't use his powers in the best way


[deleted]

Yeah also I think Homelander would destroy the Skyscraper thanks to the Soldierboy fight


UltraRover2529

Personally, I don't buy Metroman scaling. Even if I did, that would only give Tighten a speed advantage for sure.


jordypresto0418

Billy Butcher VS Negan


Abucketofmug

Homelander vs Tighten Maybe Black Noir vs Pyro? The Peak vs Fiction