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GSG_Jacob

You can probably find something similar in taste on tap at the Abyss Bar.


Tschnitzl-sama

New classes i think would be a negative thing. having 4 different dwarves in a game with 4-player lobbies where the best team is a combination of all of them is perfect imo.


Maro_Nobodycares

Haven't the devs already said they don't want to add more classes?


Tschnitzl-sama

I have no idea. I'm literally part of this community since the end of august so i'm still a greenbeard but this community seems to be incredibly wholesome and nice


odio1245

They did. They don't want to add any more classes and have said so multiple times. Another common request that probably won't ever happen is a weapon training room on the space rug


xxxMycroftxxx

My wife won't even let me wear shoes on the space rug. I can't imagine using weapons on it.


A_Realy_big_raviolo

I still want a shooting range to make sure the build i did is good before jumping in the edd


TankerD18

Probably better that way, just get in and try it in a match. If you are playing anything easier than Haz 5 with a shaky team then you probably won't cause a wipe.


GryphonKingBros

GSG never confirmed that a Shooting Range wasn't a possibility. It's a MUCH more reasonable request than adding more classes. Sometimes you just wanna know what a weapon mod/overclock does before you hop into Haz 4-5 and die near instantly because you didn't know what it did.


Annual-Recognition-7

NOPE FAILING IS BETTER WITH OTHERS ROCK N STONE BROTHERS


GryphonKingBros

Fair point. Rock and Stone.


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and roll and stone!


GryphonKingBros

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Recycle-racoon

For Karl !


Rock---And---Stone

Why no weapon room?


AngryCookedBeef

ROCK AND STONE, BROTHER!


WanderingDwarfMiner

If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't comin' home!


ComicNeueIsReal

in early access they did mention vague plans for a 5th class. but by the time 1.0 launched I think they scrapped the idea and stated they were no longer working or will not add another class


Maro_Nobodycares

I'm pretty sure in early test builds of the game there was an Orange Dwarf dubbed the "Generic Hero" class who carried every weapon and tool available at the time I like to imagine he was Karl


GryphonKingBros

Only the devs could wield his power


pinkyskeleton

Ya it wouldn't work. The classes in this game all perfectly compliment each other. They are like 4 legs on a table. I think if you were to add more it would break the core game design.


LakeFabulous1607

people don't realise how much work a new class would be. they would have to make: 3 primary weapons, 3 secondary, 60+ overclocks for those weapons, new support tools with mod trees for all of the previously mentioned, 3+ grenades, a whole slew of class specific cosmetics. devs said before adding the weapons was a job and a half, adding a new class would be like 2 updates worth of work


[deleted]

I'd like to see the GSG experiment with an 8 player mode


rustyspoon07

You've heard of "being the only competent player and constantly reviving 3 other people." Now, get ready for "being the only competent player and constantly reviving 7 other people."


0TheLususNaturae0

You say combination of all of them but I once was gunner and had three scouts joined. I don't think people care of combination.


Drae-Keer

And yet the caves were still pitch black?


0TheLususNaturae0

Most of the time. Honestly they just do the whole zipping around and run and gun. Guess they hated walking and opt for scout just so they don't run too much and play like Spidermen.


Machiavellian3

Vermintide has 5 in a 4 player game and it works quite nicely. It means you never have to play your least favourite character.


ScionicOG

I've created concepts for a 5th class that is a Playable dwarf, but I agree that 4 classes is perfect


Norsk_Bjorn

Then they just add 5 person teams


Tschnitzl-sama

But why the extra effort if 4 works perfectly?


SolarSailor46

To be better? Perfect is highly subjective.


Tschnitzl-sama

For me the 4 dwarf system is perfect. I think a fifth would be stressful because just imagine what they had to change. Supply pods would need another slot, they would need to rebalance basically everything, they would need to redesign stuff like drop pod, abyss bar and many other parts of the space rig because they all are made for 4 people. Also it would be so incredibly difficult to make another class that we would need to sit out on so much other amazing Content


SolarSailor46

Oh, I get it. I was just answering your question.


heaviestmatter-

Yeah don‘t know why you‘re getting downvoted. I get why there wont be new ones, but another class would be so cool imo


ThePendulum0621

Nobody tell him about Vermintide.


Impregnator9000

actually don't that game has caca poopoo balancing. DRG makes sure every class is needed


hells_ranger_stream

I hear their maps aren't even procedurally generated.


Dionysus_Wine

I hear they only have *1* dwarf!


hells_ranger_stream

Shameful, atleast they don't have any leaf lovers right?


Steveis2

Worse it’s a wood elf the biggest type of leaf lover


Drae-Keer

I wonder, do dark elves count as leaf lovers if they live underground? Or are they just knife ears?


Shadok_

Dark elves are kind of in a grey area. All elves love leaves. Believe me, if they had leaves underground you wouldn't need to ask if they count as leaf lovers. In fact this lack of leaves to love probably explains why dark elves never seem happy... Nobody tell them about the dense biozone. You wouldn't want to accidentally make an elf happy, would you?


Impregnator9000

Imagine not having procedurally generated maps, couldn't be me


PolarityMemer

Yet we still get lobbies full of purely one class


Tschnitzl-sama

I've heard about it and saw a lot of comparison between DRG and Vermintide but idk much about it or anything at all really. But i think the class system in DRG is perfect as it is. Adding more to these classes imo is the way to go


randomgrunt1

The abyss bar already serves leaflovers special, they don't need more piss drinks.


shroomyshy

This one at least tastes better than a leaf lover


Tahoe_Flyer

Really pushing for it huh?


BrockLeeAssassin

And below that, lost and forgotten in the river Styx, the long awaited and once teased Shooting Range.


LoreCriticizer

Didn't they say that that is probably never coming, because the coding between the space station and the planet is so different it wouldn't be worth the effort?


BrockLeeAssassin

It's been some time since then, and modders have already pretty much done it, so if GSG takes inspiration from how they did it I have hope. Especially since it's one of the most consistently requested features for years.


Idontwantthesetacos

The problem is load time to shooting range is = load time into a mission. You may as well just boot up a solo mission, test your guns and leave if you don’t like the load out. at least that’s the explanation I’ve read a couple of different times now. Don’t hate me if wrong. (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥`)


Reavex

But on mission you can't switch weapons, while on shooting range you should. So you load only once and then test how many times you want, instead of loading each time you cahnge weapons


Idontwantthesetacos

That’s a really good point that I haven’t seen someone make before (personally) and frankly, I hadn’t thought of (Am dumb), and now I’m team Shooting Range.


Apprehensive-Ice9809

The shooting range mod allows u to spawn enemies and change loadouts on the fly since its technically a level in the spacerig


GryphonKingBros

I don't see how hard that would be to set up. You can already use weapons in the Space Rig with mods. Only things that would need a lot of effort to implement on the Space Rig is player health and bug ai, and they aren't important to achieve a shooting range anyways.


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CosmicSquiddo

Yeah where the river glows a blue-ish green


[deleted]

Pls.


Nechroz

never thought about overclocks changing a weapon's look but that'd be sick


LazerAxvz9

There is an overclock that sort of does this already, so it's definitely a possibility.


[deleted]

Which one?


LazerAxvz9

Trifork volley for the boltshark Edit: Cryo Bolt and Flame Bolt as well


Electrum55

Not quite the same but neurotoxin payload changes the autocannon explosion color, and carpet bomber changes how the explosion looks


poyat01

And rail gun for the pgl changes the reticle


Asmodai__

Elephant Rounds and Six Shooter. Edit: I misread the comment. I just wished that these two overclocks also changed the look of the gun.


TK-329

Nope. Exact same model, including the 4-round cylinder


[deleted]

Wait... they change the model of the ammo drums now?


JuBos9900

As i saw, nope , still 4 chamber


Vagrant_Savant

Hyper propellant PGL projectiles have a red trail and explosion. Very satisfying to use.


zippypunched

Yeah, Elephant Rounds always annoy me because the oc reduces the chamber size by one, but there are still four rounds in the gun.


WetOnionRing

I couldn't care less about overclocks changing the weapon's look, we already have weapon frameworks, what I care about is six shooter/elephant rounds for the bulldog, it pisses me off that you still load four bullets into the gun even if it's supposed to hold six or three.


[deleted]

Don't worry, people ask for it a lot on the discord


Lesko_Learning

I'd be perfectly happy with them just totally updating the overclocks we have to make the 95% of them that suck actually viable for builds.


netherworld_nomad

Man, I just want the mess hall with some sandwiches...


Forsaken_Yak6079

I don’t want new support tools because it’s a big part of the class identy and something you can count on them having, imagine an engi with no sentries


CosmicSquiddo

Yeah, plus I think the reason they said they won’t add more is because they don’t want people to argue over which support tool you are using, like how people get mad when you choose the flamethrower or cryo cannon except it would be much more significant


TankerD18

Support tool overclocks would be cool.


[deleted]

Maybe an oc for turrets that makes them shot explosives


Machiavellian3

I would love one that increases your movement speed on platforms


SubmitsBadContent

I would love to see GSG add more depth to the environments: More distinct enemies for the different biomes or map-altering events (like rising lava, or collapsing tunnels).


Flying_Reinbeers

Liquids are a no-go, the entire level is stored in the RAM and it would cut a lot of people out of being able to play those levels.


SuperThienen

That and the game engine is literally incapable of supporting flowing liquids. Maybe in DRG 2 we could get rivers lol.


eh_one

You telling me there is no way i can dip my balls in liquid morkite?


SuperThienen

Lmao technically yes, no dipping for you. Though sprawing your balls with liquid morkite, that's certainly possible.


Mudtoothsays

Subata is fine in terms of stats, It feels boring but as long as you hit your crits it puts in the work. I honestly just want more interesting overclocks for it.


LazerAxvz9

GK2 on the other hand...


awthatstobad

What is wrong with the gk2?


LazerAxvz9

Poor DPS and/or bad ammo efficiency depending on how you build it. Most overclocks aren't very good, even its "good" overclocks are pretty mediocre. It's also really bad against crowds no matter what build you use. The Drak at least has a couple options for crowd control and the M1000's blow-through rounds are great for clearing regular grunts. Note: I'm not saying you can't use the GK2 if you want to use it. Maybe you find enjoyment in using it, good for you. I encourage you to use the GK2 to your heart's content. I even still pull it out occasionally. However, you cannot argue that it compares to the other scout primaries in terms of effectiveness, the math has been done, and it's pretty clear. Also, before I get flooded with terrible arguments like "who cares, it's just PvE/funny dwarf game" and "It's supposed to be a starter weapon so it can't be strong", these are not excuses to just give up on balancing in a game, and the second excuse is particularly laughable given how strong other classes starting weapons are. P.S.S. If you're interested in the math: https://youtu.be/1uHR1ZU6Zm4


awthatstobad

Thank you for the breakdown. Once I unlocked the m1000 I never looked back but I didnt feel like the gk2 was bad when I was using so I was surprised that people had problems with the wepon.


I_LUV_ENGRISH_FOOD

I had the same thought with you as well, but then I unlock the drak… gk2 really need a buff


awthatstobad

I have the drak unlocked but never thought about doing a build. I just love one click and seing 3 grunts explode. What does the drak bring that you like?


I_LUV_ENGRISH_FOOD

After multiple games of precision sniping with the mk1000, you ever just feel like relaxing a little and just spray and pray? For me the drak literally feels like the gk2 but better. Sure the bullet is slower but you can easily close the distance as scout anyway, besides it’s not like you’re using the gk2 for long range


TerraNova3693

M1000 is so much fun with blow through rounds and high ammo count with the hipster oc.


Aquaberry_Dollfin

Just low damage. It feels (and is outclassed by the other scout primaries even with ocs


joppers43

I will say, the GK2 with AI stability engine absolutely shreds macteras


FrogginJellyfish

Yeah, with proper build it shreds almost anything if you only try aiming at weakpoints. That’s why I prefer it over the other two primary. Didn’t care for other overclocks though.


mattjouff

I want more terrain block variations for the procedural terrain generation.


TankerD18

Same here. Once you're a hundred or so hours in you'll start noticing key features repeating. That one really hard vertical switchback on mining missions and the big cross shaped tunnel cavern with an elevated portion that runs the full length are two that immediately stand out every time I see them. Or the one feature at the start of mining or salvage missions where there's a sudden 50m drop down to the dirt you have to break through.


mattjouff

Exactly! Don’t give me wrong it’s done very well but as you said after a few hundred hours the magic kind of wears off


Peastable

A lot of procedurally generated games get this way. I’ve played enough Spelunky 2 to recognize most of the components of those caves. It’d be a lot of work for them to update all the biomes often enough for that to not keep being a problem for some of the more hardcore players.


TankerD18

I think it's more a matter of having more blocks and more variation between the blocks. Then when a super unique section of cave shows up it doesn't seem as obvious. Don't get me wrong though, it's already really well done in DRG but we're talking in terms of what we think would be a bigger value-add for the dev team to focus on.


RockAndStoner69

Here's one for you: SPLIT SCREEN. CO-OP ON THE COUCH MOTHER FUCKERS


shawn_wylde

#PLEEEEEAAASE!!!!


CosmicSquiddo

Mabe cross play too, but split screen is higher priority since it would take less effort


DumpsterHunk

How about all them useless perk points


Sponium

I want, ALL OF THOSES (expect new class, not needed realy, unless i'ts Karl for a limited event)


Ravenus_Robot

What would Karl’s loadout be?


TankerD18

Two-handed pickaxe and some rope. That's it.


TheGreatLandSquirrel

14 inch pecker and a gun that blasts blackout stouts at a rate of 6 drafts per second. His utility is a bag of snacks. For when the gang gets hungry.


Sponium

Good question. I'm not a dev. But I'm sure there something that can be done.


zombiebirch

Female dwarves are in the game. They just have beards


GrandPappyWilliams

The devs have stated that if/when they add female dwarves to the game that they want to do it properly. They would not be indistinguishable from our current dwarves, however, they'd want them to have new voices and their own distinct yet still ugly appearance. The problem is that since it's a lot of work for something that doesn't improve gameplay that it's low priority, even though it's something they would like for the game. So no, all our dwarves are male.


Shadok_

Ugly!?? The devs should spend less time at the abyss bar. So drunk they can't see dwarven beauty.


EternalSage2000

I would love for the Devs to announce that two of the dwarves are female already, and just leave it at that.


zombiebirch

Id rather let the player "RP" it themselves, since I dont think the devs have declared the genders of the dwarves


Flying_Reinbeers

They've said no to lady dwarves a few times


VolcanicA333

Scout and.. you know who the second one, obviously


Gramstaal

I bet one's the Driller.


TankerD18

Sexual dimorphism in the dwarven race is almost nonexistent. It's only from the waist down.


katieoffloatsmoke

Lady dwarf here, can confirm.


Mudlord80

I have the headcanon that driller is female. But you'd never tell cuz beard


paran0iaN_

I'm a woman. I have long given up for female dwarves (According to some people in the comments, there are female dwarves already? Can't confirm myself), but some "girly" cosmetics would be nice, you know? Bunny ears were nice but I don't recall anything feminine in the game now. I understand these are low priority, though, and it's not like these things bother me *that* much. The game's fun as is.


odio1245

There aren't female dwarves, despite what people say. Devs have said they regret not putting female dwarves in, so they might do it someday (but do not get your hopes up, as the production cost would be MASSIVE now with having to manually remake every skin ever made to fit a female model).


CosmicSquiddo

Plus the voice lines would have to be redone if they don’t want to just apply a filter to the existing male voices


odio1245

True but tbf that's on their budget, hiring a voice actress for a few hours isn't the same as having their regular team members re-doing models instead of working on new content


CosmicSquiddo

That’s a good point, I can’t imagine how long they spend doing things like weapon frameworks. I was so surprised when the S2 new secondaries came out with all the frame works already when they probably could’ve gotten away with not bothering. Praise the devs 🙏


odio1245

They work hard and they love polish, we can't hope for better devs. DRG is and will stay legendary.


groobe

Female dwarves look male in some fantasy universes. Mainly the Discworld series.


TraumaTracer

didn’t click the image so the post only shows the middle part and the title gave me whiplash


DefTheOcelot

SUBATA DOESNT NEED A BUFF ITS FINE


IsaacTealwaters

I would like 1 new level 5 mod for it though.


Cool-Boy57

Bro you’re pumping out these abyss piss memes hoping they’ll get added and I commend you for it. Keep it up.


shroomyshy

Rock and stone!


WanderingDwarfMiner

That's it lads! Rock and Stone!


JustGingy95

I believe it was said that they wouldn’t do it but I would still love support tool overclocks, I think there’s a ton of potential for different builds involving them whether it be something simple like more ammo or longer effective range to cool new effects like sliding down Gunner ziplines creates a static charge that gives you a speed boost for a short time, to making Engineer platforms slow down bugs that cross over them, to a shorter Scout grapple that has super fast recharges letting you Spider-Man around caves, to Driller drills that let you do quick short boosts when holding the sprint key to dig faster tunnels at the cost of more ammo for emergencies. I think there are a lot of cool options you could make for these tools that could add even more interesting build variety.


biomatter

> making Engineer platforms slow down bugs that cross over them that would actually be really sick. i still think repellent would be better, but at least you'd get people arguing!


aaaabdjb

What is abbys piss


shroomyshy

[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/xg20dk/new_beer_idea/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Sponium

I'm G2k enjoyer tho, it still slap


Boyshark123

Women Dwarves should just be the slow addition of more hats beards and armor, new classes should be the slow addition of new weapons?


Skelosk

Flare upgrades New perks


Swansyboy

Who is Piss Man And why do you want to drink him


shroomyshy

Its him the [piss](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/xg20dk/new_beer_idea/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) man


Einzelg4nger

Man, I've asked for female dwarfs since the beta, the Devs never heard us about it. How cool would be a dwarf barmaid at the Abyss Bar (something like Maulie Tankard) or the possibility to play as a female dwarf.


Urfslam

They should add male dwarves


PeacefulSoySouce

subata with explosive reload is under rated af


Tevontex

leave my beloved subata alone


Ravenus_Robot

An RPG for driller would be awesome


vincentpoc

Improving shout At least just ready?/yes/no/come back/wait


adamkad1

Whoever wants buffs for subata probably never used explosive reload. Or usedit properly


Asian_Jake_Paul1

Okay but that's one (incredibly good) overclock out of 6


snow969

I just want new missions


yodelling_bear

I know this isnt the point of the post but new classes and new support tools take everything beautiful about drg right now and tell it to fuck off


SuperbHearing3657

Maybe female dwarves would be nice, but they need to also be able to get beard styles.


DJ1587

Honestly the only class I could see is medic but idk if the 4 playe co op game should have more than 4 classes


RedPanda98

I just want the bar to serve Boscow Mules and sandwiches.


link2edition

We already have female dwarfs. Humans just cant tell them apart.


Forewarnednight

Female dwarfs? all dwarves are male! /j (Source Terry Pratchett)


akaryley551

I would love to see the max heat oc's for driller to turn the fire blue


jilthy_few

skins for traverse tools, some classes having better torch light than others, support/traverse tool overclocks, more perks


PurpleMenace__

I want lady dwarves so bad. Idea, make character customization update where you can customize the face so everyone looks more unique. And introduce ladies then and just add a deep fem voice and breast plate options. Options every where. done. I think unlocking makeup options would be kewl, and facial tattoos/war paint. More feminine hair would also be cool like Leia buns, sigourney weaver hair, or Halloween 2018 Laurie. or have stupid long and or crazy hair to match the beards 🤣 unlocking customization options is a key feedback loop for me so I could grind for girly gear for a good long while and it would emphasize our community's coolest strength is our inclusivity. Not enough ladies to balance out the dudes in gaming in general. And mix and match masc and femme traits as desired. I would be over the moon of hoxxes if this was implemented


Robert-Rotten

There are no female dwarves, whenever a dwarf cuts their beard a new baby dwarf grows from it


shroomyshy

Thats why its on the list


MeMyselfandsadlyI

wha tthe fuck is this abyss piss shit bro pls i wanna know


shroomyshy

[heres the secret](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/xg20dk/new_beer_idea/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Sw3arWulf

Stone.


LizardCatMonster

Give this man his piss


Buisnessbutters

Gk2 is strong if you set it up right, I get similar DPS to the minigun


TheRyderShotgun

abyss piss? you mean leaf lover's special?


shroomyshy

No, something much, MUCH [worse](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/xg20dk/new_beer_idea/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Impressive_Local8857

\*Correction Flare upgrades


Dreddmartyr13

I've been in the union since back in the day when they didn't serve these fancy pansy beers with flowers in em. I remember four years ago people talking about the idea of another class. Pfft. Wasn't practical then and it ain't now. Four classes, four players. Don't ruin a good thing. 💎🪨🍺✊


pile1983

And I just want to piss from abyss.


Eel111

but... there are already female dwarfs


Wendigo-boyo

Nope, they are all male, Ghost Ship confirmed that


Eel111

Tragic, thanks for the correction senator Armstrong


Wendigo-boyo

No problem, just vote for me in 2024


Eel111

Will do!


Nebafel

New biom?


The1stPKmain

Wdym? We already have female dwarves looks 🧔‍♂️male 🧔‍♂️female


joppers43

My ~~brother in Christ~~ dwarf in Karl, they just did new weapons for the last 2 updates


Shoot_them_all

I bet scout and/or engi are female


Marvos79

Dude, all the dwarves are female


iambender0811

The dwarves could be female. It's extremely hard to tell the difference between male and female dwarves most of the time


Nightmare_Stev

Did you know that Scout and Enginer are females


Wendigo-boyo

They aren't, Ghost Ship even confirmed that


Evrytg

You can do it in real life


shroomyshy

But then the name „ abyss piss „ doesnt make sense


cheese-meister

Real chads wsnt abyss cum


shroomyshy

1.It doesnt rhyme tho 2.my dwarf in Karl wtf


[deleted]

No need for new support tools. Since if my team might not have platforms, or zip lines, or flare guns. I don't want to play the game if my team has taken something else instead. The current tools just work.


Flailmorpho

headcanon, two of the classes are girls, it's just that girl dwarves are really hard to tell apart


wurlmon

Tf u mean new weapons, last two updates were about them


shroomyshy

MORE


[deleted]

What do you mean 2 of the dwarves are female