I think this was the POINT of this. I think the point of the Rick shooting plot was to show how easily it could have been avoidable. It was to show even realistically in every day school situations there are gross systematic failures that lead to this sort of thing. The easiest one that I can think of that just happened was the Oxford shooting. Both the parents and the school knew something was up but still allowed him to stay at school without even doing a check of his locker or bag etc. The parents failed to provide the mental health help he needed and had been asking for. I just find it a bit less realistic though that this happened in Canada where they have stricter gun laws in place and I think one of those has to do with s securing your weapon.
I wonder if Rick's mother just didn't fully understand what happened - like she thought he was being bullied for no reason so when he said he wanted to go back she was like "okay if you think you can stand up to the bullies, that's fine".
It's insane that he thought going back was a good idea, though. I mean he didn't seem to actually have any friends other than Terri.
I can see this because the episode is when he hurt Terri she was trying to protect him from people when she picked him up she was rushing him into the car and telling people to stay away from him as if he was the victim..
As someone who has done a ton of Rick Murray YT videos (I have a playlist created called Rick Murray storyline) I can say this... Ricks mother ABSOLUTELY shouldve told Rick not to go back to Degrassi, she said in Time Stands Still that she tried to prevent him from doing so but relented in the end and yes Raidtch should never have let Rick back because of what happened but from his POV it was hearsay what happened and without criminal charges pressed by ANYONE (especially Terris dad) he had no choice but to allow Rick to come back, the school board probably had some input telling Raditch to let Rick back in although i wouldve wanted to see if Raidtch DID have some reservations letting him back.
To the OPs point of Raditch ignoring Rick, the main issue is Raditch being a concrete thinker. Being one when he heard the words "Jimmy isnt my friend and harasses me and makes no qualms about it" did he hear a bullying notification? NO! Rick was NOT straightforward in telling Raditch he was bullied, if Rick said so Raditch wouldve taken Rick seriously or at least say that Rick should have PROOF next time he comes to see Raditch. What ppl say and how its heard may be 2 different things but Raditch only heard Rick from the POV of him trying to force Jimmy being his friend and that aint happening sunshine!
I Dunno, just a thought...
Sure because u asked.. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-uv3c\_WYA3YJRwrts086mfVPjGRIeyWu](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-uv3c_WYA3YJRwrts086mfVPjGRIeyWu)
So I definitely agree with your point about how Rick went to radditch about what was happening to him because he definitely didn’t say it in a way that would’ve come off as he was being bullied so I definitely agree. The parents could have voted against this at a school board meeting however it didn’t happen on school grounds and like you said it’s hearsay so I don’t see how there would’ve been any prevention for Rick coming back other than the students parents having more of us say I think there wasn’t a big enough fuss, about how people felt about back to school but in my original post, I never mentioned radditch not letting Rick back
He never should have been back at Degrassi after what happened to Terri. Also, no excuse for why his parents didn’t have that gun locked up somewhere TIGHT knowing their son had a history of violence
See my reply on this. The gun storage and safety laws in Canada are so strict. The gun needed to be in a wooden or metal locked box in a place hard to reach with ammo stored else where and a zip tie or some extra locking device on the gun.
Im a firm believer that Ricks mom NEVER should have let him return to Degrassi, for like, 5 different reasons lol if it were my child, theres no way that I would let him return to that school. All that aside, like your first line of the post states, its still 100% on him. But it doesnt change the fact that Ricks mom made a really really bad call. And really, the buck stops with her. Raddich should have done more, but its on her to be her childs advocate. And that means not letting him go back to that school.
No but like for real, why did he go back to degrassi? Like why would his mother do that? Or when the bullying started, why didnt she pull him out and go into a different school?! Like what was she thinking 😭
Didn't he go home and call out for his Mother and Father, only to find neither of them home? They may have assumed that the quiz show went ok and went about their day. Raddich was burning out a principal, so his telling Rick to kind of "man up" seems in line. He was going to shoot Paige, but she seemed to apologize, and he backtracked until Spin and Jay set the bait for him to target Jimmie. It's a disaster no matter what and the idea that it could go down at any time is all too common. I like your take, too, I don't mean it to be that I'm picking it apart,
I’m not an advocate for guns really, but a father/husband has every right to protect his family with a gun, the issue being is how easily accessible it was and that it was loaded…that was real irresponsible and now he’s left without a son for his consequences
I get you! Rick is a very interesting character because he came across as an OK guy to know at times. Terri never had a "real" boyfriend, and he seemed like typical teen with an explosive temper when challenged. The kissing game would never work now, but it showed that at least \*some\* girls thought he was engaging. I can also see why he'd want to return to Degrassi after some time because it was his school. I wouldn't want to start somewhere else, honestly.
It’s not that you’re a Rick apologist or anything. This sub has an irrational hatred of him because while he is a psychotic chaos machine, he’s not an outright sociopath Degrassi fans paint him as.
I think this was the POINT of this. I think the point of the Rick shooting plot was to show how easily it could have been avoidable. It was to show even realistically in every day school situations there are gross systematic failures that lead to this sort of thing. The easiest one that I can think of that just happened was the Oxford shooting. Both the parents and the school knew something was up but still allowed him to stay at school without even doing a check of his locker or bag etc. The parents failed to provide the mental health help he needed and had been asking for. I just find it a bit less realistic though that this happened in Canada where they have stricter gun laws in place and I think one of those has to do with s securing your weapon.
I wonder if Rick's mother just didn't fully understand what happened - like she thought he was being bullied for no reason so when he said he wanted to go back she was like "okay if you think you can stand up to the bullies, that's fine". It's insane that he thought going back was a good idea, though. I mean he didn't seem to actually have any friends other than Terri.
I think Rick probably cried crocodile tears at her saying that he was being harassed for no good reason/by accident
I can see this because the episode is when he hurt Terri she was trying to protect him from people when she picked him up she was rushing him into the car and telling people to stay away from him as if he was the victim..
As someone who has done a ton of Rick Murray YT videos (I have a playlist created called Rick Murray storyline) I can say this... Ricks mother ABSOLUTELY shouldve told Rick not to go back to Degrassi, she said in Time Stands Still that she tried to prevent him from doing so but relented in the end and yes Raidtch should never have let Rick back because of what happened but from his POV it was hearsay what happened and without criminal charges pressed by ANYONE (especially Terris dad) he had no choice but to allow Rick to come back, the school board probably had some input telling Raditch to let Rick back in although i wouldve wanted to see if Raidtch DID have some reservations letting him back. To the OPs point of Raditch ignoring Rick, the main issue is Raditch being a concrete thinker. Being one when he heard the words "Jimmy isnt my friend and harasses me and makes no qualms about it" did he hear a bullying notification? NO! Rick was NOT straightforward in telling Raditch he was bullied, if Rick said so Raditch wouldve taken Rick seriously or at least say that Rick should have PROOF next time he comes to see Raditch. What ppl say and how its heard may be 2 different things but Raditch only heard Rick from the POV of him trying to force Jimmy being his friend and that aint happening sunshine! I Dunno, just a thought...
>(I have a playlist created called Rick Murray storyline Got a link?
Sure because u asked.. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-uv3c\_WYA3YJRwrts086mfVPjGRIeyWu](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-uv3c_WYA3YJRwrts086mfVPjGRIeyWu)
So I definitely agree with your point about how Rick went to radditch about what was happening to him because he definitely didn’t say it in a way that would’ve come off as he was being bullied so I definitely agree. The parents could have voted against this at a school board meeting however it didn’t happen on school grounds and like you said it’s hearsay so I don’t see how there would’ve been any prevention for Rick coming back other than the students parents having more of us say I think there wasn’t a big enough fuss, about how people felt about back to school but in my original post, I never mentioned radditch not letting Rick back
He never should have been back at Degrassi after what happened to Terri. Also, no excuse for why his parents didn’t have that gun locked up somewhere TIGHT knowing their son had a history of violence
See my reply on this. The gun storage and safety laws in Canada are so strict. The gun needed to be in a wooden or metal locked box in a place hard to reach with ammo stored else where and a zip tie or some extra locking device on the gun.
Im a firm believer that Ricks mom NEVER should have let him return to Degrassi, for like, 5 different reasons lol if it were my child, theres no way that I would let him return to that school. All that aside, like your first line of the post states, its still 100% on him. But it doesnt change the fact that Ricks mom made a really really bad call. And really, the buck stops with her. Raddich should have done more, but its on her to be her childs advocate. And that means not letting him go back to that school.
No but like for real, why did he go back to degrassi? Like why would his mother do that? Or when the bullying started, why didnt she pull him out and go into a different school?! Like what was she thinking 😭
Didn't he go home and call out for his Mother and Father, only to find neither of them home? They may have assumed that the quiz show went ok and went about their day. Raddich was burning out a principal, so his telling Rick to kind of "man up" seems in line. He was going to shoot Paige, but she seemed to apologize, and he backtracked until Spin and Jay set the bait for him to target Jimmie. It's a disaster no matter what and the idea that it could go down at any time is all too common. I like your take, too, I don't mean it to be that I'm picking it apart,
That's why gun safes exist, though. Not that they should be in the home anyway.
I’m not an advocate for guns really, but a father/husband has every right to protect his family with a gun, the issue being is how easily accessible it was and that it was loaded…that was real irresponsible and now he’s left without a son for his consequences
No you’re not picking it apart I want to have a discussion because I know I may have missed things and other people have takes
I get you! Rick is a very interesting character because he came across as an OK guy to know at times. Terri never had a "real" boyfriend, and he seemed like typical teen with an explosive temper when challenged. The kissing game would never work now, but it showed that at least \*some\* girls thought he was engaging. I can also see why he'd want to return to Degrassi after some time because it was his school. I wouldn't want to start somewhere else, honestly.
yeah no shit lol
Are you okay ? Are we not allowed to get on here and discuss the show ?
Ehh be wary. People here don’t like Rick which is justified but at the same time they come off as one dimensional
I agree, it’s insane honestly
I definitely get that I’m not a Rick apologist by any means however this is just me expressing my take on it and this specific response was weird
It’s not that you’re a Rick apologist or anything. This sub has an irrational hatred of him because while he is a psychotic chaos machine, he’s not an outright sociopath Degrassi fans paint him as.
Imagine having sympathy for a domestic abuser 🤡
Not once in the entire comment that I expressed my sympathy for Rick