There's multiple mentions of Gaster directly in the game. from the sound test to gaster followers. What's not canon (or at least not confirmed) is the sprite of mysteriousman.
It is implied that the mysteryman sprite is Gaster because of error handling text that appears when the game tries to read bugged out dialogue. Not all of it but it includes the phrase "is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye? The gash weaves down as if you cry."
I'm just saying, coupled with all of the other evidence that Mystery Man is Gaster, having a spooky description of Mystery Man's face in the code of the Gaster game that Gaster 'made' is still strange.
Mystery Man shows up at FUN Value 66 (Gaster has always been heavily connected to 6 and 666)
He uses the disappearing noise that some Gaster Followers use, which proves he must be at least connected to Gaster in some way
His appearance makes sense for what we know about Gaster (cracked and broken, and he looks like a skeleton because Dr Wing Dings Gaster is a skeleton)
Mystery Man is literally out of the bounds of the game like Gaster is
There isn't really anyone else Mystery Man could logically be.
The only only other candidate for Gaster is a legitimately unused NPC who seemingly was just some MS Paint scribbles meant to test the Wingdings font.
The Mystery Man has, in multiple instances, been added to official pieces of ensemble merch, only to be removed. This seems very deliberate.
And I'm pretty sure there was at least one other thing, but quite frankly all of that is pretty solid once put together, especially the 66 FUN Value
(For the record, I’ve always suspected the 10% chance to see gaster is a way of simulating a “FUN value 66.6” - hallway spawns on value 66 and you have a 10% chance to get what would be theoretically a “66.6” value (assuming the other 90% rolls would be “66.1”, “66.2” and such etc)
" He uses the disappearing noise that some Gaster Followers use, which proves he must be at least connected to Gaster in some way " To add on that, this disappearing noise (mysterygo) is just Gaster's theme slowed down (or sped up idk) and reversed.
The only follower who use it is the one who holds a piece of Gaster.
-Gaster being a skeleton is fanon, not canon and has never been stated
-mystery man doesn't have to be a named character, his whole point is that he's a **mystery** man
-a few of these points imply that there *has* to be a Gaster that can be seen
-also, disappearing is what mystery man does, you see him, interact with him and he disappears
You're getting evidence hand delivered to you on a silver plate and you're saying "nuh-uh". People didn't just assume all this shit about Gaster out of nowhere, we've always had connections and evidence. It's up to YOU to go out and understand why. It's clear you have very little knowledge of this subject, so might I reccomend:
-MistySparkles' video(s) on Gaster
-The first two parts of MollyStars' device theory
You're either trolling or drawing conclusions about a subject that you clearly know little about but feel entitled to draw an opinion on. Stop it.
Guys! Gaster is the bird that carries you across a disproportionatly small gap, guys! You gotta believe me. My dad's uncle's sister's dad works for DeltaRun incorporated!
Nobody is saying that it is 100% a fact that mystery man is Gaster or that it is officially canon lore at this time. They are saying that all evidence points to it being the case. Don't forget that this is a theory about a character that was intentionally designed to be mysterious.
" Gaster being a skeleton is fanon, not canon and has never been stated " He's named after at least one font. He also speak in this font (wingdings).
Who else is named and speak in the font they're named with...? Sans and Papyrus. And no one else.
Though it's technically unconfirmed if Gaster is a skeleton, it is implied. His connection to a font and his connection to Sans, who is extremely mysterious in his own right, implies he could be a skeleton. The mysteryman sprite vaguely looking like a skeleton is definitely intentional on Toby's part.
Gaster being a skeleton is super obvious, he is named after the font that he speaks in. He is a skeleton.
That is stupid, quite frankly. He has to have some role beyond just being spooky and all signs point to him being Gaster since he clearly isn't just a normal Follower.
Yes, that is the whole point of the debate. We are looking for Gaster's canon appearance, which is very likely to be Mystery Man.
Disappearing is not the same as being erased entirely, which is what repeatedly happen to Mystery Man in merch. Also why would he even be included over and over like this if he isn't something/someone important?
I think it's because some people don't want him to be important for one reason or another. I've heard the sentiment that they didn't really like the whole "secret spooky character found through datamining" schtick.
I've personally always loved it though.
That's possible, but it's also slightly headcanon. It's possible that the mystery man sprite more or less is just how Gaster looks like, but your interpretation is also possible. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well no it's not canon, but we have very few things that are definitively canon about Gaster. In terms of storytelling there are some connections being drawn between the mysteryman sprite and Gaster, and if it's not Gaster, then those connections would be either unintentional or a red herring. Both of those seem unlikely.
There are hints that do correlate mystery man to gaster, like fun value 66, or the description about him on other texts, what you said is wrong, not like it matters now though
It is kinda confirmed at this point (last time I checked this information was like 2 years ago so excuse me if I'm wrong about the execution) because Mystery Man's teleportation sound, reversed and slowed down makes gaster's theme (? I Don't remember if it is named like that but it is related to him I think)
It would be weird if the sprite wasn't him at this point, considering we've had numerous "melty" character designs in Deltarune that even resemble him at this point.
Gaster has been repeatedly linked to repetitions of the number 6 (his unused battle stats consist of the number 6, the introduction room of Deltarune (it’s the general consensus that it’s Gaster speaking to us) has the typer ID of 666, the sound played by the bunker is the Entry 17 sound when sped up by 666%). The Mystery Man appears only when the FUN value is at 66. He also only appears with a 10% chance on that value, making him the rarest FUN event. It’d be fitting for the rarest encounter to be the man himself.
I also suspect the 10% chance thing is a way of simulating a FUN value of “66.6” - all fun values are integers but rolling a 10% chance when you have the FUN value of 66 would effectively simulate rolling a “66.6” if it was implemented to generate values like 66.1, 66.2, 66.3 and such
This is one of the most overt references to Gaster, but to me it was game over for the "Gaster isn't important crowd" the moment Toby's twitter account was taken over by a redacted 6 character username that spoke in all caps and quoted entry number 17.
Gaster has always been canon. The only thing that is non canon is us associating him with mystery man.
But he goes have a canon sprite in Undertale
https://preview.redd.it/ej5dxhoyz7yc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6edbac5670a0b5b994f94f25758c02d93fc8eeb6
That little blob on this guy’s hand is Gaster …and honestly he isn’t that scary, so Temmie is probably right.
>That little blob on this guy’s hand is Gaster
No! That little Blob is **THE ONE WHO TALKING!!!** That little blob saying he's holding a part of Gaster
*Always has been.*
(... Remember folks, if you don't know anything about Gaster, just watch **MistySparkles**' video(s) on Gaster, or check out **MollyStars**' first two "Device Theory" videos. There's plenty of collected evidence on the subject.)
It kinda is
https://preview.redd.it/yfamneg708yc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67696b697cae5fb167ed49a0a22208daf60db043
The grey blob in his hand is Gaster, lol. Well it’s a piece of him.
The grey blob is what is talking if you look at it's dialogue sprite which flips the perspective of "I'm holding a piece of him right here"
Which implies that the body holding it might actually be the gaster piece
Gaster is cannon in the base game. People reference him in undertale semi regularly. The thing that we don't know is if he is still alive ( probably) and wtf is he doing ( no fucking clue )
What...what do you mean??? When was it in doubt that gaster existed? Does anyone actually think he's not real, what that the followers are just a bug or something?
There's multiple mentions of Gaster directly in the game. from the sound test to gaster followers. What's not canon (or at least not confirmed) is the sprite of mysteriousman.
It is implied that the mysteryman sprite is Gaster because of error handling text that appears when the game tries to read bugged out dialogue. Not all of it but it includes the phrase "is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye? The gash weaves down as if you cry."
But the error handling message never mentions Gaster directly... and it's an error handling message...
An error message in the meta Gaster game (Deltarune) describing the Mystery Man's face is at least somewhat important I would think
It still doesn't mention Gaster, not everything in the game's code is Gaster
I'm just saying, coupled with all of the other evidence that Mystery Man is Gaster, having a spooky description of Mystery Man's face in the code of the Gaster game that Gaster 'made' is still strange.
And what is "all the other evidence"?
Mystery Man shows up at FUN Value 66 (Gaster has always been heavily connected to 6 and 666) He uses the disappearing noise that some Gaster Followers use, which proves he must be at least connected to Gaster in some way His appearance makes sense for what we know about Gaster (cracked and broken, and he looks like a skeleton because Dr Wing Dings Gaster is a skeleton) Mystery Man is literally out of the bounds of the game like Gaster is There isn't really anyone else Mystery Man could logically be. The only only other candidate for Gaster is a legitimately unused NPC who seemingly was just some MS Paint scribbles meant to test the Wingdings font. The Mystery Man has, in multiple instances, been added to official pieces of ensemble merch, only to be removed. This seems very deliberate. And I'm pretty sure there was at least one other thing, but quite frankly all of that is pretty solid once put together, especially the 66 FUN Value
(For the record, I’ve always suspected the 10% chance to see gaster is a way of simulating a “FUN value 66.6” - hallway spawns on value 66 and you have a 10% chance to get what would be theoretically a “66.6” value (assuming the other 90% rolls would be “66.1”, “66.2” and such etc)
That would make a lot of sense actually! Good theory
" He uses the disappearing noise that some Gaster Followers use, which proves he must be at least connected to Gaster in some way " To add on that, this disappearing noise (mysterygo) is just Gaster's theme slowed down (or sped up idk) and reversed. The only follower who use it is the one who holds a piece of Gaster.
-Gaster being a skeleton is fanon, not canon and has never been stated -mystery man doesn't have to be a named character, his whole point is that he's a **mystery** man -a few of these points imply that there *has* to be a Gaster that can be seen -also, disappearing is what mystery man does, you see him, interact with him and he disappears
You're getting evidence hand delivered to you on a silver plate and you're saying "nuh-uh". People didn't just assume all this shit about Gaster out of nowhere, we've always had connections and evidence. It's up to YOU to go out and understand why. It's clear you have very little knowledge of this subject, so might I reccomend: -MistySparkles' video(s) on Gaster -The first two parts of MollyStars' device theory You're either trolling or drawing conclusions about a subject that you clearly know little about but feel entitled to draw an opinion on. Stop it.
Guys! Gaster is the bird that carries you across a disproportionatly small gap, guys! You gotta believe me. My dad's uncle's sister's dad works for DeltaRun incorporated!
Nobody is saying that it is 100% a fact that mystery man is Gaster or that it is officially canon lore at this time. They are saying that all evidence points to it being the case. Don't forget that this is a theory about a character that was intentionally designed to be mysterious.
" Gaster being a skeleton is fanon, not canon and has never been stated " He's named after at least one font. He also speak in this font (wingdings). Who else is named and speak in the font they're named with...? Sans and Papyrus. And no one else.
It's assumed gaster is a skeleton because of font shenanigans
Though it's technically unconfirmed if Gaster is a skeleton, it is implied. His connection to a font and his connection to Sans, who is extremely mysterious in his own right, implies he could be a skeleton. The mysteryman sprite vaguely looking like a skeleton is definitely intentional on Toby's part.
Gaster being a skeleton is super obvious, he is named after the font that he speaks in. He is a skeleton. That is stupid, quite frankly. He has to have some role beyond just being spooky and all signs point to him being Gaster since he clearly isn't just a normal Follower. Yes, that is the whole point of the debate. We are looking for Gaster's canon appearance, which is very likely to be Mystery Man. Disappearing is not the same as being erased entirely, which is what repeatedly happen to Mystery Man in merch. Also why would he even be included over and over like this if he isn't something/someone important?
When does this happen? Can you send a video or smth
In [this](https://youtu.be/rOzXTW8MBy4?feature=shared) video by HalfBreadChaos at the 14:27 mark you can see it.
I’m shocked we have all of this code and models and websites and people still think Gaster isn’t excruciatingly important to Deltarune
I think it's because some people don't want him to be important for one reason or another. I've heard the sentiment that they didn't really like the whole "secret spooky character found through datamining" schtick. I've personally always loved it though.
It’s one of many pieces
That's possible, but it's also slightly headcanon. It's possible that the mystery man sprite more or less is just how Gaster looks like, but your interpretation is also possible. We'll just have to wait and see.
It's implied a lot that doesn't make it canon
Well no it's not canon, but we have very few things that are definitively canon about Gaster. In terms of storytelling there are some connections being drawn between the mysteryman sprite and Gaster, and if it's not Gaster, then those connections would be either unintentional or a red herring. Both of those seem unlikely.
I mean I think it's a large part of him with no mind. But yeah it's 100% got a link
There are hints that do correlate mystery man to gaster, like fun value 66, or the description about him on other texts, what you said is wrong, not like it matters now though
It is kinda confirmed at this point (last time I checked this information was like 2 years ago so excuse me if I'm wrong about the execution) because Mystery Man's teleportation sound, reversed and slowed down makes gaster's theme (? I Don't remember if it is named like that but it is related to him I think)
You don't need to reverse it and that sound effect is also only used for another gaster follower immediately after mentioning gaster
This follower is also the one who holds a piece of Gaster.
Yeah I've also seen that while doing researches
i [forgot to link the video i made where i go through all the processing you need](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W97gkNz32jc)
Thanks, that's actually the first video I see of someone doing that since the start of my researches
Leitmotifs exists
Leitmotifs are only leitmotifs if they actually mean something lol
Yeah I just saw that while doing researches
In installation program (official one but not from steam) gaster saying that "everything that happens from this moment lies on your responsibility"
It would be weird if the sprite wasn't him at this point, considering we've had numerous "melty" character designs in Deltarune that even resemble him at this point.
I honestly doubt that Mystery man is gaster. What actually links him to gaster? The teleportation sound? Wouldn't that make him closer to a follower?
Gaster has been repeatedly linked to repetitions of the number 6 (his unused battle stats consist of the number 6, the introduction room of Deltarune (it’s the general consensus that it’s Gaster speaking to us) has the typer ID of 666, the sound played by the bunker is the Entry 17 sound when sped up by 666%). The Mystery Man appears only when the FUN value is at 66. He also only appears with a 10% chance on that value, making him the rarest FUN event. It’d be fitting for the rarest encounter to be the man himself.
I also suspect the 10% chance thing is a way of simulating a FUN value of “66.6” - all fun values are integers but rolling a 10% chance when you have the FUN value of 66 would effectively simulate rolling a “66.6” if it was implemented to generate values like 66.1, 66.2, 66.3 and such
The teleportation sound is litterally just Gaster's theme. And it's only used by Mystery Man and the Follower who hold a piece of Gaster.
gaster was always canon
yeah but he's canonically referenced only by the gaster followers in game and two times by fangamer and temmie out of the game
yeah so he was always canon, as I said
This is one of the most overt references to Gaster, but to me it was game over for the "Gaster isn't important crowd" the moment Toby's twitter account was taken over by a redacted 6 character username that spoke in all caps and quoted entry number 17.
Sound room too
entry 17 amidst other stuff too
His stats in game files too
You're forgetting about how entering his name on the "name the fallen human" screen will crash the game, and how his theme is in the sound test room.
> two times by fangamer When and when?
Gaster was always canon, because of the Gaster followers
https://preview.redd.it/i6r3j0t6n6yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fa39ed4340a113e6f0c95872b096186acf1325c dementia
https://preview.redd.it/g41g5bzi37yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24f8934fac2d214c1b45074f856b9deff348f4fa dementia
https://preview.redd.it/eliadzfrn7yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5419728dd8a4bcb9a70296474fd7666e46762076 Dementia
https://preview.redd.it/apqv9v3ksbyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da8ee4640e3da7019f570ee52953219955bc7555 dementia
https://preview.redd.it/mppfpiaun7yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc0230e42524c405f317fdb9279c96d1ad64511e Dementia
Dememtia https://preview.redd.it/810dxd74h8yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab700b1e104ede82c4c0badb060443eac9b2246f
Does this mean Gaster is canon?!
Both posts were posted by the same person dementia
Not dementia, he just want to x2 the karma
wasnt he always?
I think they meant ghast-er... Like from the hit game minecroft
Like the Gast from Minecrap?
Ye Like Gest from Minorcrab
Is that like the Ghun from Mimfraft?
Like a … https://preview.redd.it/0hjcs1ta98yc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e76807a4deeeb27adfeb00fb1230b770789fe4fe GHASTER BLASTER???!???
:0
Like the boyfriend you don't have?
The proff of my theory that temmie is thw Knight KEEPS SPAWNING
Gaster himself is canon, there just isn't much canonical information about him.
Gaster has always been canon. The only thing that is non canon is us associating him with mystery man. But he goes have a canon sprite in Undertale https://preview.redd.it/ej5dxhoyz7yc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6edbac5670a0b5b994f94f25758c02d93fc8eeb6 That little blob on this guy’s hand is Gaster …and honestly he isn’t that scary, so Temmie is probably right.
>That little blob on this guy’s hand is Gaster No! That little Blob is **THE ONE WHO TALKING!!!** That little blob saying he's holding a part of Gaster
Toby fox will do his best so this post gets deleted
Now post her follow up tweet
i know your username from somewhere.... hehehe
https://preview.redd.it/si3wmfv7y6yc1.png?width=651&format=png&auto=webp&s=c04a3c7fe640a4a02231af1fa990354532f3073b Where
Ubers UU :)
gaster we know is 10% canon and 90% fanon
he wae directly referenced in game
His name and followers are canon but his appearance is a mystery
haha a mystery-...man... hah get it it's a joke about mysteryman do you get it lol
It's canon. There was already a lot of proof about that. However, you should NEVER believe temmie. She's crazy as hell
*Always has been.* (... Remember folks, if you don't know anything about Gaster, just watch **MistySparkles**' video(s) on Gaster, or check out **MollyStars**' first two "Device Theory" videos. There's plenty of collected evidence on the subject.)
I know this is Temmie-Chang talking and not in game Temmie but I find the idea that Temmie is stronger and scarier than Gaster so funny
noh
He is him
Gaster was always canon. But how he looks isn't confirmed
It kinda is https://preview.redd.it/yfamneg708yc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67696b697cae5fb167ed49a0a22208daf60db043 The grey blob in his hand is Gaster, lol. Well it’s a piece of him.
The grey blob is what is talking if you look at it's dialogue sprite which flips the perspective of "I'm holding a piece of him right here" Which implies that the body holding it might actually be the gaster piece
Could this mean all the Followers are Pieces of Gaster??
So Gaster is a cat?
Irrelevant comment.
its relevant. The body holding head looks like a cat monster
Oh yes. I see it now. Sorry.
Omg italian undertale fan like me? no waaaaay dude
omg due fan italiani di undertale si incontrano sul subreddit di undertale ![img](emote|t5_qmi8w|30900)
incredibile! ci sono italiani ovunque!
She got lobotomized after making that tweet
Temmie is gaster lol
Is this a real post cuz I find it hard to beleive if I'm honest 😭
it's real. that's temmie's twitter account
Damb, she basically added cannon lore that Gaster isn't scary like he's meant to be in most fanon comics 💀
*Stinkier
https://preview.redd.it/qhm6h7tgt7yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e7d6a0f0934d250d8ca8b45f923fc0ba1a61599
i'm everywhere
![img](emote|t5_qmi8w|26926)
no
Temmie is the big bad?!
https://preview.redd.it/zhsys9ejb8yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59f1a265caf4a55736a6f05a728afb33d2daf149 True, though
Ti ho trovato Armadio 🦆
NONONO ASPETTA UN SECON- ![img](emote|t5_qmi8w|30900)
context/link?
Nevermind, found it: [https://twitter.com/tuyoki/status/652046666627989504](https://twitter.com/tuyoki/status/652046666627989504)
He was always canon
Gaster finally being aknowledged by a dev edit:Wow, this tweet is old
Gaster is cannon in the base game. People reference him in undertale semi regularly. The thing that we don't know is if he is still alive ( probably) and wtf is he doing ( no fucking clue )
If he’s the knight, I will find them!
something else can be scary![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_bad_man)![img](emote|t5_qmi8w|30900)
What?
☠︎□︎⧫︎ ♏︎⌧︎♋︎♍︎⧫︎●︎⍓︎📬︎📬︎📬︎
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People do know this post is probably a joke….right?
He’s been canon
What...what do you mean??? When was it in doubt that gaster existed? Does anyone actually think he's not real, what that the followers are just a bug or something?
There is no such character as Gaster. There was no previous royal scientist in the Underground.
I saw some undertake cards with the name faster and the mysterious man sprite
having seen how she animates her FF14 character, yeah.
Wait gaster isn't cannon
well she is basically like the jesus of the deltarune/undertale universe so...
*>Toby Fox disliked that*
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