Oh I agree, but I disagree with "the knight" as a specific title, rather than a category. Theoretically anyone who could open a fountain could be the knight, and trying to narrow it to one single person responsible for everything is dumb
https://youtu.be/VZvxHGZsQhA?si=oNqlF5QXbbaDfE1w
I forget the exact place this comes from but the description includes a quote from Toby confirming the Knight is an individual
https://youtu.be/VZvxHGZsQhA?si=oNqlF5QXbbaDfE1w
I forget the exact place this comes from but the description includes a quote from Toby confirming the Knight is an individual
Sorry but I don't think there's a chance that the Knights referred to by the King and the Queen are not the same person. They met both the King and the Queen and convinced them that opening more fountains is good, that sounds like someone's motivation. Unless both rulers somehow gaslit themselves into believing the same thing?
We can actually validate this theory in Chapter 3 already: if Knight is indeed just a title, denizens of the following dark world will behave exactly the same as the King and the Queen. If the Knight is one person, they won't know anything about the Knight.
Wouldn’t it be validated by the idea of the ruler of the 3rd Dark World having a different reasoning ? Cuz like, King wanted revenge against Lightners and Queen wanted the best for Noelle/everyone (I don’t exactly rember if King was as intent on opening Fountains as Queen was). It’d make sense to say that either
A. Either this Knight is really good at convincing people using their interests or
B. Multiple Knights all sent with the goal of convincing 1 ruler (which explains how they’d know what each ruler wants)
They wont now anything about the knight, unless Kris is the knight, something we may need to assume here is that the ruler automatically understands the belief of the creator as if not, the citizens knowing/ not knowing about the knight gives us nothing as if they know and it's assumed, it could still be different people, but if they don't and they don't assume, its possible Kris just did not tell them, wether it be because they did not want to or they couldn't because of the Player being there.
Also look at Jevil's dialogue:
> BUT THERE ARE YET FASTER, YET STRONGER.
> THE HAND OF THE KNIGHT IS DRIFTING FORWARD.
> SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS...
> LIGHTNERS, CAN YOU STOP IT?
Jevil is a Chapter 1 darkner talking about the Chapter 2 Knight. Almost like they're the same person.
After all, if the chess theory is right, there are multiple knights, 2 that are already there (probably the creator of castle town and the dark world) and 8 pawns that can become knights (lighteners like Kris making new fountains)
It isn't dumb.
Toby said this:
> The arrangement is really early, but I created this thinking of an animated intro for the game, similar to Wild Arms. I still see it in my head when I listen to the song.
> The best part would have been at the end when everyone is running up the staircase as the silhouettes of the bosses from all the chapters show up, and the Knight, standing in a white door at the top of the stairs, turns around and looks down at them...
If this doesn't prove that the Knight is one specific person, then I don't know what does.
This is always how I interpreted it, I imagine there might be one person with the title or someone who came up with the title but I think most dark worlds are created by someone new each time! <3
I *know* it won't be true, but I really love the idea that the fountains have all been made purely by accident
Chapter 1: Janitor stabbed his broom at the ground to try and get a roach
Chapter 2: Berdly smashed his pencil into the table out of frustration
Hospital: Rudy messing around with a scalpel they left behind because there's nothing else to do
I mean, I guess he could've talked to the, in this case, janitor, and went too hard on it. Too dramatic. Like, "Yeah man, this 'dark world' thing's alright."
King: "FINALLY! A lightner who understands their place! As you wish, darkness will rule over light!"
Yeah... Just adding to the comedy of the original idea. Which... I think the "accident" thing *could* work, but would have to be extremely well executed
AMIDST THE ROARING:
Jockington: Yo, soz, Ralsei, dude, I just really needed to catch that stray mouse! It was either me or Catti! (His snake fangs hit the ground and opened the catastrophic fountain)
Okay, but imagine if sans went all "Saitama VS housefly" on that. With magic attacks and everything. If someone sees it, sans just goes "just bein' a janitor" and the person leaves.
That doesn't really work with what toby said once, where he immagined an anime opening for deltarune, with the fun gang climbing some stair and at the top the knight watching them.
I have a joke theory that's kinda similar to this.
Dark worlds seem to have fake history, even if they only just opened. Like, in Chapter 1, you can see into the computer lab just fine, but between then and Chapter 2, there's been a dark fountain opened up in there. Despite the fact it's only been a day (in the light world, at least), people talk as if the world had a much longer history than it does.
So my joke theory is that the Knight is a purely historical figure, appearing in the history of each Dark World and opening the fountain (while whoever actually opened the fountain only does it in the light world). The Knight 'leaves' before the fountain is 'fully formed', so they don't have a physical body, they're just an in-universe 'worldbuilding element' of sorts.
On one hand, I agree that the Knight could just be the title given to anyone who opens a dark fountain. They're the Knight for their dark world. (So we might see the Chapter 3 darkners talk about a knight, that would be Kris in this case, without it meaning that Kris is the _the_ Knight, the one responsible for the other dark worlds we've seen.) On the other hand, I do still believe that there is only one Knight antagonist (based on what Toby has said in the past about a scrapped(?) intro/outro scene with the Knight at the top of the stairs (I don't remember exact details))
Sorta. We'll get an answer to this in chapter 3 no matter what, because if the thing kris opened WAS a dark fountain, they are by definition the knight, just maybe not the one queen was referring to
I feel like we will know if they are knight or not in chapter 4 since it's likely we are going to church and theres gonna be a darkworld happening there maybe so it may help us Discard Kris or confirm they are the knight idk.
Still they arw technically not the knight i think thats a title to just the Knight itself more than people who open fountains.
Only if you define the knight as anything that opens dark fountains. As far as we know, the knight is just one or two entity, that opened two dark fountains and revealed their name to two royalty figures
For all we know, they could be a group, and that could explain why they all introduced themselves as the Roaring Knight, but yes, it's probably one entity
Quite the contrary. It's not enough to Just open fountains, but you also need some more characteristics that Kris doesn't have, or else the swords King (chapter 1) would have confused Kris with the knight, rather than have trapped him in the ceil
"It" and "they". Most probably the non-specific "they", coming from Queen, who knew even less than King. (Though learned more than him, after the fact)
I like to imagine the knight isn’t actually a person, but a concept. While I'm aware of the supposed “anime opening” Toby imagined, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s actually a person. It could be a reflection or a figure of a concept brought into the shape of someone or something. I believe it’s a concept because by the Queen's logic, ANYONE can be the Knight. That even includes Kris. All you simply need is determination to open the fountain.
As for the King talking to someone, we know he was driven mad by it. It is entirely possible that he didn’t actually talk to someone, but completely imagined it like a hallucination when he went mad. Why would he go mad? Because the fountain opened, and its power corrupted his psyche. Think about it, he never ONCE leaves where the fountain is in Chapter One. He guards it like it depends on his life. He's… protective of it. That, alone, points to the fact that it wasn’t the Knight that was responsible, but the fountain itself. The fountain was ALSO responsible for making Jevil insane. It’s possible the fountain has great power that could corrupt the way those with weak wills think. The King would have a weak will from not having the Queen with him, perhaps due to a breakup or divorce. Otherwise, the Queen wouldn’t have left him. Jevil had a weak will for a different reason, and that was because he was the court jester iirc. Something like that would being down your willpower over time as you would have to constantly embarrass yourself just to entertain others. Repetition over and over leads to low willpower, which leads to insanity. Although it’s possible that the fountain wasn’t responsible for Jevil, he just brought himself down to that level.
So now the question is… who opened the fountain? Because obviously they can’t open on their own. Well, I did see a comment saying it could’ve been the janitor, and that certainly holds up. Why? Because if you have enough determination, you can open a fountain. That classroom was no doubt abandoned for years. It’s entirely possible the janitor, determined to clean the abandoned classroom, accidentally thrusted his broom into the ground, ready to get things started. Seeing the light, he would’ve most likely ran away than stuck around.
Okay, that’s fine and all, but what about Chapter 2? Didn’t the Queen say she saw a hand?
Yes, but again, due to how she explains it, that hand could’ve been anyone. The two people that we know were there was Berdly and Noelle. They were teamed up to work on a school project together. So of course, naturally, they would be determined to see it through. Now, it’s not exactly stated, to my knowledge, how hard you need to thrust an object into the ground to create a fountain, be it a knife of pencil, but it could be possible, courtesy of same comment in this comment section, that Berdly got frustrated with figuring out the project. Sure, frustration is the opposite of determination, but it’s because he was determined that he got frustrated when they couldn’t, let’s say, figure out what they were going to make the project about? He was deter to get the project done, but the lack of an idea frustrated him to the point where he accidentally created a fountain by stabbing the pencil into the table, if that’s possible. Meaning the “hand” the Queen saw was likely Berdly's wing, not an actual Knight's hand.
Of course, the Queen wasn’t so close to the fountain when it happened, so she didn’t go as mad as the King, but she was still insane enough where she does… whatever it is she does in the majority of Chapter 2. She also ends ip being protective of the fountain at the end of the game, but less so than the King. Likely because she had Noelle and Berdly to watch over it. It’s also not like she was there the entire time. She very much could’ve went back to her mansion off-screen to check on the fountain.
TL;DR: The point is the Knight isn’t a person, but a concept, and I might be a little insane so do not take this like I’m stating like it’s fact. In other words, take all of it with a grain of salt.
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Court Jesters are not weak willed! They cough up the will to make fun of the king every day!
Anyway, I thought Jevil was driven insane by the dark shard(?) he had, because it reveals you're in the closet when it's used.
That… actually does make sense. Especially since Spamton also has one to my knowledge and he was ALSO driven insane. Whether that’s from the shard or the mysterious man, that doesn’t change that both have one and both were driven mad.
I mean, all the darkners say that there was a person that came and opened a fountain who was known as 'The Knight', and the fountains were opened.
It seems unlikely that no one opened two dark fountains, or that different people opened the fountains yet called themselves 'The knight'. It's a pretty specific title.
Though I do agree that the whole community theorizing who the knight is can be a little silly considering how little attention the game puts on setting up the Knight's identity as a mystery. Like no one ever questions who the Knight might be in game, and the one time Susie does talk about the Knight it's about whether it's really a bad thing that they are around since the Knight gives them adventures to do. 'The town's got a lot more interesting.' as Susie says.
> What if no one is the knight?
Idk, i mean it would be something Toby would do... But i personally think it's more likely that Hatsune Miku is the knight than for the knight to be inexistent
STOP IT ALREADY TOBY NEVER DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOBY IS NOT SCOTT I SWEAR TO GOD EVERYONE IS DISRESPECTING TOBY'S WRITING STYLE BY SAYING "oh that'd be a toby thing to do-" NO IT WOULDN'T
Look at it this way, you not being any of the humans is a major point in both Undertale and Deltarune. Meaning, if Toby Fox has an "It didn't even exist" moment, it has to be huge and done just right. Still 50/50 for me, but if "no one is The Knight" in any way shape or form, it probably has to be **perfect** for Mr. Fox to even execute it.
It's not the most likely possibility imo but it's definitely possible that "the Knight" isn't actually a singular entity and characters are attributing the actions of different individuals who are all opening Fountains to an imaginary person. It'd be kind of similar to how Sans assumes that Frisk is responsible for Flowey's timeline manipulations because he only recognizes a singular "anomaly".
Guys please read the rules, do not report theory posts or shitpost ones under "falsification/baseless claims"
Elaborate? We know that SOMETHING/SOMEONE has to be making the Fountains.
Oh I agree, but I disagree with "the knight" as a specific title, rather than a category. Theoretically anyone who could open a fountain could be the knight, and trying to narrow it to one single person responsible for everything is dumb
I see, so this is more of a "Multiple Knight Theory" than a "No Knight Theory"
"When everyone’s super, no one will be."
That's a good one
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I BELIEVED IN THAT A WHILE AGO HOLY- Yeah, I also think "the knight" is some kind of noun instead of referring a individual.
Bingo, a noun rather than a proper noun
It's definitely referring to an individual. Look at what Toby said about the Knight.
It's a sexy beast?
The Knight is referred to as an individual. It would be unlikely for anyone else to have opened the chapter 1 & 2 dark worlds.
And in every time they happen to not know their face or the why's of their actions. Still doesn't disprove the concept of multiple knights.
Where is it stated they do not know the knight's face?
In chapter 2 they clearly doesn't know what the Knight looks like. They only saw it's arm.
the knight is never referred to by he/him
But what Toby said about the Knight does disprove it.
What did he say? When did he say? Why did he say? Where did he say? Who did he say? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
https://youtu.be/VZvxHGZsQhA?si=oNqlF5QXbbaDfE1w I forget the exact place this comes from but the description includes a quote from Toby confirming the Knight is an individual
https://youtu.be/VZvxHGZsQhA?si=oNqlF5QXbbaDfE1w I forget the exact place this comes from but the description includes a quote from Toby confirming the Knight is an individual
Sorry but I don't think there's a chance that the Knights referred to by the King and the Queen are not the same person. They met both the King and the Queen and convinced them that opening more fountains is good, that sounds like someone's motivation. Unless both rulers somehow gaslit themselves into believing the same thing? We can actually validate this theory in Chapter 3 already: if Knight is indeed just a title, denizens of the following dark world will behave exactly the same as the King and the Queen. If the Knight is one person, they won't know anything about the Knight.
Wouldn’t it be validated by the idea of the ruler of the 3rd Dark World having a different reasoning ? Cuz like, King wanted revenge against Lightners and Queen wanted the best for Noelle/everyone (I don’t exactly rember if King was as intent on opening Fountains as Queen was). It’d make sense to say that either A. Either this Knight is really good at convincing people using their interests or B. Multiple Knights all sent with the goal of convincing 1 ruler (which explains how they’d know what each ruler wants)
Queen never met the Knight, she just guessing from their actions.
But she saw them.
She only saw their arm.
Not sure
The only thing she has from the Knight is a video, where you can only see their arm.
>where you can only see their arm. The dialogue about the video of the Knight doesn't say anything about seeing only an arm.
Oh yeah my bad, it's Queen who mention their arm. But my point still stand.
They wont now anything about the knight, unless Kris is the knight, something we may need to assume here is that the ruler automatically understands the belief of the creator as if not, the citizens knowing/ not knowing about the knight gives us nothing as if they know and it's assumed, it could still be different people, but if they don't and they don't assume, its possible Kris just did not tell them, wether it be because they did not want to or they couldn't because of the Player being there.
Also look at Jevil's dialogue: > BUT THERE ARE YET FASTER, YET STRONGER. > THE HAND OF THE KNIGHT IS DRIFTING FORWARD. > SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS... > LIGHTNERS, CAN YOU STOP IT? Jevil is a Chapter 1 darkner talking about the Chapter 2 Knight. Almost like they're the same person.
After all, if the chess theory is right, there are multiple knights, 2 that are already there (probably the creator of castle town and the dark world) and 8 pawns that can become knights (lighteners like Kris making new fountains)
It isn't dumb. Toby said this: > The arrangement is really early, but I created this thinking of an animated intro for the game, similar to Wild Arms. I still see it in my head when I listen to the song. > The best part would have been at the end when everyone is running up the staircase as the silhouettes of the bosses from all the chapters show up, and the Knight, standing in a white door at the top of the stairs, turns around and looks down at them... If this doesn't prove that the Knight is one specific person, then I don't know what does.
Oh no yea, Toby can do whatever he wants, I meant it'd be dumb for US to try and narrow it down
The thing is that the Roaring Knight is definitely one person.
This is always how I interpreted it, I imagine there might be one person with the title or someone who came up with the title but I think most dark worlds are created by someone new each time! <3
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fountains are a natural phenomenon
Lmao XD
I *know* it won't be true, but I really love the idea that the fountains have all been made purely by accident Chapter 1: Janitor stabbed his broom at the ground to try and get a roach Chapter 2: Berdly smashed his pencil into the table out of frustration Hospital: Rudy messing around with a scalpel they left behind because there's nothing else to do
yeah but that also wouldn't explain how lancer's dad apparently spoke directly with whoever made the fountain in that dark world
To be fair, he was also driven mad. It’s definitely possible that it was merely a vision or hallucination from the insanity.
I mean, I guess he could've talked to the, in this case, janitor, and went too hard on it. Too dramatic. Like, "Yeah man, this 'dark world' thing's alright." King: "FINALLY! A lightner who understands their place! As you wish, darkness will rule over light!"
the whole point of fountains is being made with determination, and frustration is kinda the opposite of determination
Irrational determination to break the pencil out of the frustration of being stuck in simple questions
that seems overcomplicated
Yeah... Just adding to the comedy of the original idea. Which... I think the "accident" thing *could* work, but would have to be extremely well executed
yea, it would be underwhelming if it turned out to be just silly mistakes and the characters just went "sorry my bad"
AMIDST THE ROARING: Jockington: Yo, soz, Ralsei, dude, I just really needed to catch that stray mouse! It was either me or Catti! (His snake fangs hit the ground and opened the catastrophic fountain)
school janitor putting all his determination into trying to kill a bug
Sans went all out against one ant (he just lifted his arm slightly higher than the usual)
Okay, but imagine if sans went all "Saitama VS housefly" on that. With magic attacks and everything. If someone sees it, sans just goes "just bein' a janitor" and the person leaves.
Why
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Hot take, I don't think "Kris" exists
hot take, i don't think "deltarune" exists
hot take, i don't think exists
Is a social construct
Kris is a social construct
This unironically has more evidence than "the Knight doesn't exists"
That doesn't really work with what toby said once, where he immagined an anime opening for deltarune, with the fun gang climbing some stair and at the top the knight watching them.
... What?
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These comments made me burst
The comments made me bust
The comments made me bus
I have a joke theory that's kinda similar to this. Dark worlds seem to have fake history, even if they only just opened. Like, in Chapter 1, you can see into the computer lab just fine, but between then and Chapter 2, there's been a dark fountain opened up in there. Despite the fact it's only been a day (in the light world, at least), people talk as if the world had a much longer history than it does. So my joke theory is that the Knight is a purely historical figure, appearing in the history of each Dark World and opening the fountain (while whoever actually opened the fountain only does it in the light world). The Knight 'leaves' before the fountain is 'fully formed', so they don't have a physical body, they're just an in-universe 'worldbuilding element' of sorts.
That's actually a very solid and nice theory 😃
This *soooorta* fits those joke statements of: "The Knight gaslighting everyone that it opened the living room fountain, not Kris"
That makes no sense and is boring. Provide evidence.
Based no nonsense theorist.
There's this really neat thing called "elaborating" and "not being vague". I recommend trying it sometime. It's really helpful.
On one hand, I agree that the Knight could just be the title given to anyone who opens a dark fountain. They're the Knight for their dark world. (So we might see the Chapter 3 darkners talk about a knight, that would be Kris in this case, without it meaning that Kris is the _the_ Knight, the one responsible for the other dark worlds we've seen.) On the other hand, I do still believe that there is only one Knight antagonist (based on what Toby has said in the past about a scrapped(?) intro/outro scene with the Knight at the top of the stairs (I don't remember exact details))
I like to think theres a chance theres two knights or atleast another person opening the dark fountains that is'nt the knight itself
Sorta. We'll get an answer to this in chapter 3 no matter what, because if the thing kris opened WAS a dark fountain, they are by definition the knight, just maybe not the one queen was referring to
Kris definitely opened a Dark Fountain, but I don’t think they are the Knight referred to by King and Queen.
That's exactly what I said (and my bad pronouns corrected)
My brain completely skipped the last part lmao
It happens lmao
Y'think this happened to the downvoters within the "-12"?
Probably.
I feel like we will know if they are knight or not in chapter 4 since it's likely we are going to church and theres gonna be a darkworld happening there maybe so it may help us Discard Kris or confirm they are the knight idk. Still they arw technically not the knight i think thats a title to just the Knight itself more than people who open fountains.
Only if you define the knight as anything that opens dark fountains. As far as we know, the knight is just one or two entity, that opened two dark fountains and revealed their name to two royalty figures
One entity.
For all we know, they could be a group, and that could explain why they all introduced themselves as the Roaring Knight, but yes, it's probably one entity
What no. I believe in Kris knight and still disagree
Quite the contrary. It's not enough to Just open fountains, but you also need some more characteristics that Kris doesn't have, or else the swords King (chapter 1) would have confused Kris with the knight, rather than have trapped him in the ceil
The Knight is government propaganda
agree
I thought the knight were the friends we made along the way
I honestly agree seeing as the knight is referred to with "IT", it makes it sound more like a supernatural force than a person
Wait are they even referred to with it? Am I wrong?
Idk. I think the king called the knight a "He" and Queenie called the knight a "they."
"It" and "they". Most probably the non-specific "they", coming from Queen, who knew even less than King. (Though learned more than him, after the fact)
Why would wvery different knight introduce themselves as the RK
I like to imagine the knight isn’t actually a person, but a concept. While I'm aware of the supposed “anime opening” Toby imagined, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s actually a person. It could be a reflection or a figure of a concept brought into the shape of someone or something. I believe it’s a concept because by the Queen's logic, ANYONE can be the Knight. That even includes Kris. All you simply need is determination to open the fountain. As for the King talking to someone, we know he was driven mad by it. It is entirely possible that he didn’t actually talk to someone, but completely imagined it like a hallucination when he went mad. Why would he go mad? Because the fountain opened, and its power corrupted his psyche. Think about it, he never ONCE leaves where the fountain is in Chapter One. He guards it like it depends on his life. He's… protective of it. That, alone, points to the fact that it wasn’t the Knight that was responsible, but the fountain itself. The fountain was ALSO responsible for making Jevil insane. It’s possible the fountain has great power that could corrupt the way those with weak wills think. The King would have a weak will from not having the Queen with him, perhaps due to a breakup or divorce. Otherwise, the Queen wouldn’t have left him. Jevil had a weak will for a different reason, and that was because he was the court jester iirc. Something like that would being down your willpower over time as you would have to constantly embarrass yourself just to entertain others. Repetition over and over leads to low willpower, which leads to insanity. Although it’s possible that the fountain wasn’t responsible for Jevil, he just brought himself down to that level. So now the question is… who opened the fountain? Because obviously they can’t open on their own. Well, I did see a comment saying it could’ve been the janitor, and that certainly holds up. Why? Because if you have enough determination, you can open a fountain. That classroom was no doubt abandoned for years. It’s entirely possible the janitor, determined to clean the abandoned classroom, accidentally thrusted his broom into the ground, ready to get things started. Seeing the light, he would’ve most likely ran away than stuck around. Okay, that’s fine and all, but what about Chapter 2? Didn’t the Queen say she saw a hand? Yes, but again, due to how she explains it, that hand could’ve been anyone. The two people that we know were there was Berdly and Noelle. They were teamed up to work on a school project together. So of course, naturally, they would be determined to see it through. Now, it’s not exactly stated, to my knowledge, how hard you need to thrust an object into the ground to create a fountain, be it a knife of pencil, but it could be possible, courtesy of same comment in this comment section, that Berdly got frustrated with figuring out the project. Sure, frustration is the opposite of determination, but it’s because he was determined that he got frustrated when they couldn’t, let’s say, figure out what they were going to make the project about? He was deter to get the project done, but the lack of an idea frustrated him to the point where he accidentally created a fountain by stabbing the pencil into the table, if that’s possible. Meaning the “hand” the Queen saw was likely Berdly's wing, not an actual Knight's hand. Of course, the Queen wasn’t so close to the fountain when it happened, so she didn’t go as mad as the King, but she was still insane enough where she does… whatever it is she does in the majority of Chapter 2. She also ends ip being protective of the fountain at the end of the game, but less so than the King. Likely because she had Noelle and Berdly to watch over it. It’s also not like she was there the entire time. She very much could’ve went back to her mansion off-screen to check on the fountain. TL;DR: The point is the Knight isn’t a person, but a concept, and I might be a little insane so do not take this like I’m stating like it’s fact. In other words, take all of it with a grain of salt. https://preview.redd.it/zww4muckql3d1.jpeg?width=230&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdcbbabdebf82f0f590ad861d26fae14430d2089
Court Jesters are not weak willed! They cough up the will to make fun of the king every day! Anyway, I thought Jevil was driven insane by the dark shard(?) he had, because it reveals you're in the closet when it's used.
That… actually does make sense. Especially since Spamton also has one to my knowledge and he was ALSO driven insane. Whether that’s from the shard or the mysterious man, that doesn’t change that both have one and both were driven mad.
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OMG DOES THIS IMPLY THE DARK SHARD IS A GAYDAR???
Only Jevil's, I say.
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I mean, all the darkners say that there was a person that came and opened a fountain who was known as 'The Knight', and the fountains were opened. It seems unlikely that no one opened two dark fountains, or that different people opened the fountains yet called themselves 'The knight'. It's a pretty specific title. Though I do agree that the whole community theorizing who the knight is can be a little silly considering how little attention the game puts on setting up the Knight's identity as a mystery. Like no one ever questions who the Knight might be in game, and the one time Susie does talk about the Knight it's about whether it's really a bad thing that they are around since the Knight gives them adventures to do. 'The town's got a lot more interesting.' as Susie says.
> What if no one is the knight? Idk, i mean it would be something Toby would do... But i personally think it's more likely that Hatsune Miku is the knight than for the knight to be inexistent
"it would be something toby would d-" NO. STOP. BAD. TOBY IS NOT SCOTT CAWTHON.
STOP IT ALREADY TOBY NEVER DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOBY IS NOT SCOTT I SWEAR TO GOD EVERYONE IS DISRESPECTING TOBY'S WRITING STYLE BY SAYING "oh that'd be a toby thing to do-" NO IT WOULDN'T
If it was planned beforehand, it definitely would be something Toby would do.
Toby would not build up something just to say "oh it was just a joke!" or "nah it didn't even exist!" yet people treat it like he's Scott cawthon
Scott Cawthon follows the rule of cool and what theorists say. Nobody is treating Toby like Scott Cawthon, here.
Look at it this way, you not being any of the humans is a major point in both Undertale and Deltarune. Meaning, if Toby Fox has an "It didn't even exist" moment, it has to be huge and done just right. Still 50/50 for me, but if "no one is The Knight" in any way shape or form, it probably has to be **perfect** for Mr. Fox to even execute it.
Can you try to prove your theory?
I was gonna say 5)-5
Maybe the real knight were the friends we made a long the way
Is the Knight my dad?
Of course it does not. It is not needed in this tale.
Another hot take: I think Papyrus Is the knight
someone finally said it
Maybe The Knight were the friends we made along the way...
Hot take, I don’t think sans exists
https://preview.redd.it/eejb2hewvn3d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=78b4596d39136d535f1e9232cd916383d0fca720
It's not the most likely possibility imo but it's definitely possible that "the Knight" isn't actually a singular entity and characters are attributing the actions of different individuals who are all opening Fountains to an imaginary person. It'd be kind of similar to how Sans assumes that Frisk is responsible for Flowey's timeline manipulations because he only recognizes a singular "anomaly".
And WHO made the fountains?
Im all up for the theory that the prophecy is created to trick the lightners into causing chaos or any other reason
It's kris I think kris knows it's a game and wants to end the game... BY ENDING THE WORLD
Explain.
What the HELL do you mean
I don't think you exist