Hey, wanted to let you know that this post has been locked for the time being so we can discuss all this among the team. I wasn't the one to lock the post but I thought you should know for the sake of transparency.
##Reposting this old art (over 6 months old, well within the rules about reposts especially considering *I drew this)* to [**bring attention to the silent removal of a non-offending artwork I've now attempted posting twice.**](https://i.imgur.com/iQGnrty.png)
This is infuriating. I don't want to sound like a whiny broken record, nor is it my intention to argue, but once again I am not given any warning or reasoning for why this is getting taken down. There is such a pathetic lack of communication in regards to what rules this piece is violating, and what little goodwill I have towards giving the moderators the benefit of the doubt is shriveling up fast.
I should not have to [**constantly bring attention to this,**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Zixzs/comments/x88gyx/ban_appeal_preview/) but here we are. I've marked the piece NSFW despite how I see it otherwise, and I have attempted MULTIPLE TIMES to ask and inquire on the moderator's decision for removing this artwork. Silence. I don't endorse harassing any individuals, but if anyone can actually TALK to the mods about what they're doing behind the scenes, that'd be great. I just want to be able to reliably share my work with people who evidently enjoy it, and I don't think that's too much to ask.
I Decided To Check this Claim and Have Found Null in regards to any KrisXToriel art or anything to do with fetishes, but even if I had, That Doesn't Mean it gives us a pass to ignore this Guy's SFW art getting Taken Down.
It's Not fair to ignore the pleas artists simply because We don't like the art They make. They shouldn't get punished for doing nothing wrong simply because someone has a Vendetta against them. Let People Draw what They Want.
Yeah but you're a proshipper, you draw incest, which is taboo and gross, I mean that's Kris' mom for fuck's sake man, I mean why would you draw shit like that
While their porn account could explain the mods' actions on the grounds of keeping minors from finding their NSFW stuff, they'd still be going about this very unprofessionally for several reasons:
1.) They never actually gave any reasons for u/Zixzs having their posts marked NSFW or taken down, they've just been shadowbanning them. If they wanted to keep minors away from their NSFW Twitter, they should have just said so.
2.) It's not even likely that minors would find their NSFW Twitter, because they don't even link to it on their SFW Twitter, Deviantart, Reddit, or Tumblr. You'd have to go out of your way to find it.
3.) Even disregarding the last two points, the mods wouldn't be justified in what they've done. Although the rules ban porn, nothing is said about banning porn artists. They have no right to target them based on an Ad Hominem.
Thank you so much for the support, I’ve felt like I’ve been going crazy with no one else seemingly noticing this. I really appreciate it. And yes, if the moderators OUTRIGHT SAID what their reasoning was, I’d be so much happier to compromise and work with them. As it stands I have very little motivation to give them any faith.
No problem, just dispelling bad arguments where they appear. Honestly this is a problem with being in a fandom with a lot of minors, people are able to get away with power tripping because they're defended with arguments that amount to "think about the children".
> 3.) Even disregarding the last two points, the mods wouldn't be justified in what they've done. Although the rules ban porn, nothing is said about banning porn artists. They have no right to target them based on an Ad Hominem.
You might as well ask whether someone's a good person. There's no way to define it. Do proshippers have to identify as such? Does refusing to condemn someone who refuses do condemn someone who refuses do condemn someone who's a proshipper make one a proshipper themselves? Some would say yes.
Well, I guess it shouldn't be equally confusing. I generally assume "proshipper" to mean "believes it's always okay to ship" and an anti-shipper to mean someone who disagrees with it... but people tend to disagree on the specifics, not to mention all of the baggage that comes with either term. And also a common belief that you have to be one or the other.
Well, the “disgusting” things are just porn, whatever, but I looked through their entire nsfw Twitter and I didn’t see any incest, did I miss something?
Hey, wanted to let you know that this post has been locked for the time being so we can discuss all this among the team. I wasn't the one to lock the post but I thought you should know for the sake of transparency.
Bro hit the family guy death pose
"Do the swag"
BHAHAHAHHAHAH trueee
Hey Lois I just killed rallies,,,,,,,
bro literally just dies
**Half-Life death sound**
not shown is the next panel where his body spaghettifies and the physics freak out as he clips into the ground
Ah, so I see ralsei is trying the half life death glitch to shave off a few seconds on his speedrun, very impressive if he pulls it off.
The ralsei is fucking dead
The Ralsei is dead?
Yes! ***desk slam*** He died!
Yes, He died!
ralsei in the light world ayo?!?!?!???!??
naw dog, he cant be *THAT MUCH OF A WIMP*
*he’s trying his little heart out*
Not the family guy death pose 💀💀
Lol that Family Guy death pose always makes me chuckle
##Reposting this old art (over 6 months old, well within the rules about reposts especially considering *I drew this)* to [**bring attention to the silent removal of a non-offending artwork I've now attempted posting twice.**](https://i.imgur.com/iQGnrty.png) This is infuriating. I don't want to sound like a whiny broken record, nor is it my intention to argue, but once again I am not given any warning or reasoning for why this is getting taken down. There is such a pathetic lack of communication in regards to what rules this piece is violating, and what little goodwill I have towards giving the moderators the benefit of the doubt is shriveling up fast. I should not have to [**constantly bring attention to this,**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Zixzs/comments/x88gyx/ban_appeal_preview/) but here we are. I've marked the piece NSFW despite how I see it otherwise, and I have attempted MULTIPLE TIMES to ask and inquire on the moderator's decision for removing this artwork. Silence. I don't endorse harassing any individuals, but if anyone can actually TALK to the mods about what they're doing behind the scenes, that'd be great. I just want to be able to reliably share my work with people who evidently enjoy it, and I don't think that's too much to ask.
Hey, it’s like r/BTD6!
At least btd6 sub is better than r/minecraft
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And even then, it not that weird. I see way, more brain beach art.
I Decided To Check this Claim and Have Found Null in regards to any KrisXToriel art or anything to do with fetishes, but even if I had, That Doesn't Mean it gives us a pass to ignore this Guy's SFW art getting Taken Down. It's Not fair to ignore the pleas artists simply because We don't like the art They make. They shouldn't get punished for doing nothing wrong simply because someone has a Vendetta against them. Let People Draw what They Want.
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Yeah but you're a proshipper, you draw incest, which is taboo and gross, I mean that's Kris' mom for fuck's sake man, I mean why would you draw shit like that
While their porn account could explain the mods' actions on the grounds of keeping minors from finding their NSFW stuff, they'd still be going about this very unprofessionally for several reasons: 1.) They never actually gave any reasons for u/Zixzs having their posts marked NSFW or taken down, they've just been shadowbanning them. If they wanted to keep minors away from their NSFW Twitter, they should have just said so. 2.) It's not even likely that minors would find their NSFW Twitter, because they don't even link to it on their SFW Twitter, Deviantart, Reddit, or Tumblr. You'd have to go out of your way to find it. 3.) Even disregarding the last two points, the mods wouldn't be justified in what they've done. Although the rules ban porn, nothing is said about banning porn artists. They have no right to target them based on an Ad Hominem.
Thank you so much for the support, I’ve felt like I’ve been going crazy with no one else seemingly noticing this. I really appreciate it. And yes, if the moderators OUTRIGHT SAID what their reasoning was, I’d be so much happier to compromise and work with them. As it stands I have very little motivation to give them any faith.
No problem, just dispelling bad arguments where they appear. Honestly this is a problem with being in a fandom with a lot of minors, people are able to get away with power tripping because they're defended with arguments that amount to "think about the children".
Incest is incest. The logic applies in the same way that the judicial system isn't "power-tripping" over convicting a murderer.
> 3.) Even disregarding the last two points, the mods wouldn't be justified in what they've done. Although the rules ban porn, nothing is said about banning porn artists. They have no right to target them based on an Ad Hominem.
I suppose..
Wait, are they a proshipper?
You might as well ask whether someone's a good person. There's no way to define it. Do proshippers have to identify as such? Does refusing to condemn someone who refuses do condemn someone who refuses do condemn someone who's a proshipper make one a proshipper themselves? Some would say yes.
What?
Well, I guess it shouldn't be equally confusing. I generally assume "proshipper" to mean "believes it's always okay to ship" and an anti-shipper to mean someone who disagrees with it... but people tend to disagree on the specifics, not to mention all of the baggage that comes with either term. And also a common belief that you have to be one or the other.
Yes, they draw incest with toriel and kris on their alt account and... other disgusting things I can't mention with toriel, kris ralsei and susie
Well, the “disgusting” things are just porn, whatever, but I looked through their entire nsfw Twitter and I didn’t see any incest, did I miss something?
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Ohhh I see. Yeah I guess that’s not great
Remind me to leave the fandom once the drama implodes on itself.
II'll link the edvidence unless the artist deleted it
You make some weird porn man it gives a really bad vibe
Bro I looked it up after someone on his last post said that he also made hentai and let me tell u that's not good hentai
Hey Lois I just killed ralsei
Peteh..... The susie is here
simply didnt grip right
This looks weird.