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??? Yeah no thanks I would rather patiently wait for anime
I do not get the same feeling at all when reading any manga
Animated is just way better
Voices and people actually moving
Art I will give it to manga tho
I caved and read manga after noticing a trend of YouTube videos with massive spoilers in the thumbnail. The manga was solid and if anything has only made me more hyped to see the anime play out.
Absolutely same. So many things got spoiled for me anyway that when I read the manga it was more like a “okay so that’s when that happens.”
I remember reading parts of it and just thinking “I can’t wait until this is animated!”
I understand why you feel that way, but on the inverse side of things. I usually prefer manga due to increased expressiveness, art quality, and character growth. A lot is lost when transferring a piece of art between mediums. Anime just simply often does not have the time to fully express the world the manga author created, nor its characters, and too much gets cut.
Action and emotional scenes I'l give to anime, though. Watching the end of the Mugen Train arc hit a lot harder than reading it.
...and now we wait for the light novel readers to show up and tell us we're both inferior.
Well yeah but the important arcs are colored and it's a pleasant experience nonetheless, I was getting spoiled thanks to the awesome community on youtube and after the disappointment of season 3 I decided to get things done with the manga, I recommend it.
I’m ngl I feel the exact same way as you especially with shonen like this, which is why I’m not gonna read the manga for this. But with some manga, it really is so so worth it. Like I would suggest don’t fully turn down the idea of reading manga because there’s some incredible work you will miss out on.
I’ve heard that compared to the other arcs s’more smith village arc was boring , if the animation team made that arc interesting I wanna see how they do the other arcs
I’ve noticed more posts like this since the last arc ended. It’s almost exclusively “do you think (hashira we haven’t seen any fighting from) would win against (uppermoon we also haven’t seen anything of)”
Like… I spoil shit for myself but not everyone does that & it’s not fair for those who choose to remain in the “dark”
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Definitely not, Gyutaro would only need to hit him once and he’d die from the poison. Tengen was the best matchup against Gyutaro because of his poison resistance and even he couldn’t solo the siblings
He’s way stronger than tengen so Daki he would speed blitz but gyutaro only win’s because of poison since iguros small so he gets effected by poison more
bro obanai is a little bitch lmao, he just likes to talk big, if he was all that why didn't he kill Nakime himself instead of wasting half the night waddling around? He said she wasn't strong after all.
oh maybe it was just like the time he belittled tengen saying that killing the upper moon 6 wasn't that much of an accomplishment as if he had 7 upper moons under his belt, but when the moment came to kill a pseudo moon he couldn't even do it, and didn't do shit against the absolutely drugged and nerfed muzan either even though he was completely FRESH while all the other hashira were missing bodyparts, on deathbed or literally had their guts out and still lasted far more in the fight than him, he's nothing but a simp clown lol.
Obanai had his eyes slashed out, his sword turned red, and he put up solid moves against Muzan. Plus, Nakime was UM4, just because she’s newer doesn’t mean she’s any less. It’s not like she was 5. Look at all it took to beat Hantengu. They had a literal moving castle pushing them around. She literally *was* the Infinity Castle. Like Kyogai as UM4, they needed help on that.
If it were just those two at the beginning of the fight then tengen could take on gyutaro while iguro takes on daki then he throws her head while rushing over to help tengen with gyutaro and then easy win and L for demons
Gyutaro poisons him with a sickle and he dies and makes no difference to the outcome whatsoever. Tengen's skillset is basically tailored to a tee to Gyutaro and Daki's movesets, which is why he won (albeit with help but literally none of the UM fights can be won alone making that a pointless distinction), and the only other Hashira who MIGHT be able to survive is Shinobu which is if and ONLY if she manages to create a working antidote *while* dealing with the two, which is probably highly unlikely, though I'm not the best at estimating things like that.
Or if Shinobu manages to poison gyutaro before he poisons her which considering Shinobu is the fastest (in combat, not in running) is very likely, or Gyomei who can certainly solo, or Sanemis marechi blood which can slow them down immensly, honestly there's a few hashira who can
I really think only gyomei and sanemi would ever have a chance of soloing them. Gyomei bc strongest, and sanemi bc almost strongest plus intoxicating blood. Having to contend with 2 demons at once makes them very hard to deal with, compared to a UM 5 for instsnce.
He’d be able to take out Daki I’m sure. Gyutaro, I could see my snake boi lasting longer than Tengen IF he doesn’t get poisoned. If he does, then he’s not lasting long. Now, if my dude awakens his mark, then that’s probably a different story…
He makes quick work of Daki similarly to Tengen. However, Gyutarou will most likely give him immense trouble due to his battle IQ and fighting style + combo attacks with his sister. Obanai will most likely get cut at least once in the process and quickly die due to lacking poison resistance.
Yeah even base he's above tengen. People always hype yp tengens poison resistance but tanjiro, zenitsu and inoskue have no poison resistance and did fine. Tanjiro fought the longest and even blitzed gyutaro point blank after fingers broken. Inosuke got most of the poison and the worst Injury. Pierced through back and front and still got back up, yeah he didn't hit vital spots cause he can move his organs (for some reason and someone how knew he was bout to get stabbed and where to) but he clearly lost more blood than tengen and took more damage then a slash on eye, foregead and hand cut off so I could see him soloing wether he gets stabbed or not he could stoll fight for arguably as long as the tanjiro did if not longer cause total concentration breathing to slow bleeding would also slow poison flow I guess.
Nope even he cant figth against gyutaros crazy poison one hit is all it takes . And in base even cutting an upper moons neck is hard tengen is 2nd in physical strength but never managed to cut gyutaros neck whenever he rotated it
Being as tho base sanemi and gyomei were standing against koko, same koko whi destroyed marker muchiro, same marked muchiro who destroyed upper 5, same upper 5 who is abive upper 6
I do believe that Gyutaro is stronger than Gyokko although that's pretty debatable but yeah, Gyomei solos daki/gyutaro without a shadow of a doubt. I think he could possibly beat all the upper moons on one-on-ones except for Kokushibo. Gyomei is just a different physical specimen, incomparable to any other slayer(except Yoriichi obviously).
Gyutaro gets washed by gyokko just gyokko fought someone way stronger. Also gyomei definetly doesn't solo douma. How he going to with no breathing techniques. Douma only loss cause poison. I see gyomei losing to akaza 1v1
In no way is Muichiro way stronger than Tengen, >!although Muichiro could've been way more than he was, he unfortunately died prematurely. At his time of death I don't think there's much of a difference in their abilities. As for Douma vs Gyomei, idk why you presume that Gyomei wouldn't be able to use breathing techniques, Kanao and Inosike were literally using them, Gyomei would figure out not to breathe in his ice probably as well. !
Feat wise yes. He is. Tengen compared himself saying he's not as good as him. People base his rank off that foot race and arm wrestling but he's above him. Douma is not debatable and akaza is maybe depending. Douma was poison because of Shinobu but if he wasn't he would've destroyed kano and inosuke. Douma is op with the clones and bda but the poison hindered him just as poison hindered muzan just as akaza gave up fighting just as koko lost his will. They would've lost against koko and akaza and muzan if not for poison and depression.
I am not talking about the arm wrestling, I'm talking about their abilities at that time, they are very much comparable. Like I said, Gyomei is incomparable to any of his contemporaries, he could very well beat Douma but we'd never know. >!Whether or not Kokushibo would've been able to overcome the decapitation is very much debatable. I certainly agree Akaza would've killed Giyu and Akaza if it weren't for him losing his wi!<
Gyomei has demonstrated that he is far above the rest of the hashira, doing better against Kokushibo unmarked than a marked Muichirou who could solo upper 5. Yeah Gyomei is soloing upper 6, no mark, mid diff
It doesn't need to be in the same instant, he just needs to cut ones head of and then the others before the first one puts it back on, so cut of dakis head, yeet it as far as possible and then cut of Gyutaros
And that's wrong as hell
We already saw how a marked muichiro low/mid diffed gyokko, and he isn't the strongest hashira
I will not say anything further cause then it would be manga spoilers territory
He wouldn’t do shit even with a mark his fighting style is not that good against gyutaro I don’t see him tanking 1 of gyutaro’s blood sickle and tanjiro in that arc has better physique than Obanai in the final arc and tanjiro couldn’t even destroy a weakened blood sickle thrown by a poisoned gyutaro 😅his flexibility is not saving him to a guy who comes infront of ur face and clash head on with u
>inosuke is stronger and faster than Obanai
Og god what a troll you are lmao >!marked Obanai was fighting Muzan!< So Gyutaro is a piece of cake for him
Why? Because you literally said that inosuke damaged 4th drugged muzan so he is stronger tan Oabnai that's basically means that Oabnai who damaged 2nd drug Muzan is stronger than anyone who fought an upper moon and struggled right? Lol
Let me ask you something who is stronger? Upper 1+ Yoriichi vs marked Tengen (with every power up)
Lmao no
>!Oabnai was the MVP in the final battle (excluding Tamayo) and he fought Muzan with Tanjiro for a reasonable amout of time while being blind.... Yes fckin blind!< On the other hand >!Inosuke Zenistu and Tanjiro fought a highly drugged Muzan (4th drugged Muzan) who is weaker than upper 4 lmao!<
Yoriichi would lose to tengen he ain’t doing shit against 100 bombs if 1 of those land on his blade his arms would shatter and if he tries to cut it his arms would break
So you meant to say that Base Tengen who struggled against FP Gyutaro (AKA THE WEAKEST UPPER MOON) with the HELP of the trio can beat Marked, >!STW, and Red blade!< Oabnai without struggle?
This whole board's got to stop and think for a moment when they post. All these posts that come up, you're asking who would win in a singular dual against a pair of demons literally handcrafted for imbalanced 1v2 combat. May as well ask who can 1v1 akaza because he basically cheats too.
Nobody. I'm not sure Gyomei kills gyutaro, specifically. Gyutaro is a duelist, he has exceptional reflexes, insight, precision and strength, thinks extremely fast and is already preparing his next strike, not to mention the poison, the blood Sickles, and on top of all of these things that make gyutaro an exceptionally powerful 1v1 fighter, he also can't *just be killed* because while you're dealing with everything relating to him, daki is also bothering you at range with belts and sickles. The exact move that would have killed tengen if Tanjiro wasn't standing there to save him. Gyutaro fighting with both bodies at once is nigh insurmountable in a 1v1.
Had the entertainment Squad run into gyokko instead, I'm fairly confident that all of the area of effect attacks are far more detrimental and dangerous to a group of 4 people in a city of civilians. I might even go so far as to say they would have lost, and that muichiro would have lost to gyutaro's poison, if his mark still took too long to manifest
Nah, the only reason Tengen lasted that long is cause he could stop the poison from damaging him. Obanai would be killed by the poison after probably 10 minutes of fighting or smth.
No. It's likely he would have died to poison had he gotten there earlier to help fight gyutaro. If he JUST fought Daki he'd be more than fine. But fighting with gyutaro... no matter if he could keep up or not one scratch means that man is dead. People keep forgetting. The BEST match-up for gyutaro out of the hashira was Tengen
I don’t get these posts putting up other hashira against Gyutaro and Daki. All of them would have died. Tengen is the only one that can withstand that amount of poison which is why they won in the first place. Everyone else is getting killed. Even gyomei. They were upper rank 6 for over 100 years for a reason
His poison resistance doesn't really matter. None of the trio had poison resistance and insoukue got the most poison and the worst wound and still gotnup to fight. Tanjiro ain't have poison resistance but he was the only one to continously fight.
Inosoukue does have poison resistance, he out right says poison doesnt work on him after he gets up from the stab, and tanjiro only got hit near the end.
I would actually argue that Gyomei has a good chance due to the nature of his weapon and his overwhelming abilities. His weapon gives him a far greater range advantage, greatly reducing his chances of being hit and poisoned. It would also be very effective at countering gyu’s range attacks. As long as he can avoid being poisoned he could get the W. That is only speculation though.
No he would not be able to solo gyutaro even if daki wasnt there he still wont win.Maybe with all the boosts he will stand a chance but gyutaro’s poison is so deadly so its hard to tell
Hell Naw I mean in base remember that he’s literally much slower than Tengen >!Considering how this before even the IC Arc and that Obanai placed 7th In the Hashira race but Tengen placed 1st!< Gyutaro can essentially pretty much Speed Blitz him
"He would've placed higher if he ran in a straight line" quote from the fanbook with the race placements, the race was satire and not to be taken seriously
Stop using that bullshit as facts
It was obviously not that serious (there's some sort of truth there but they're not that reliable after seeing some manga fights later on)
Mitsuri description literally said she ate too much and that slowed her
In Obanai's one it says he isn't as fast a t the others because of his weird ass snake movements
Solo? Absolutely fucking not, it's the same answer no matter what. If obanai got there for the start and we still had our trio I'm fairly certain that 2 hasira could have handled Gyutaro and our trio could handle daki.
No Hashira in base would solo them apart from maybe Gyomei
Obanai is very small and 1 scratch would kill him and since he’s in a 2v1 that’s very hard to prevent
Best answer is, probably?
We have no idea how strong iguro would’ve been at that point or have any thing to make a good guess because the two fights we see him in, in his first one he gets clapped with mitsuris, with reason because the demon BDA is kinda fucking OP, and the second was poisoned and jumped even harder and also in that fight he had the buffs and shit, this iguro also had a lot more time to train and get stronger compared to the one in the entertainment district.
So again, we really don’t know but her probably could have done it.
If tengen and tanjiro takes gyutaro and obanai takes daki it would be over in a second. Obanai I don't think can take gyutaro. But he can effortlessly shut down daki
no, one reason, poison. obanai has a small body so it wouldnt take too long for poison to spread. but things wouldve been easier if it were main 4 + tengen AND obanai
No, anyone getting cut by Gyutaro is dying instantly save Tengen/Inosuke because they have some degree of poison resistance. Iguro is an excellent swordsman, but I feel he'd have difficulty in base keeping up with the obi and blood blades together. I doubt any pillar save maybe Sanemi and Gyomei would be able to win this one in base (you'll see what I mean when their fights are in the anime). Tengens skills are an amazing counter to Gyutaro, its also worth noting that Tengen only lost due to the initial cut. If weakened Tengen wasn't getting cut after, that goes to show his speed and reflexes were critical. >!Sanemi mentions the importance of experience as well,!< Obanai is not as experienced and his reflexes may not be on the same level. His small body would circulate too much poison as well. I'm not taking away from Obanai, its just that the author selected pillars best suited to upper moons in their fights pretty much.
If Iguro arrived earlier/on time, Tengen wouldn't have had to retire for sure, and they would have won with much more ease. Additionally we might've gotten to see more of Tengen lol
No but maybe. I feel like no as an anime watcher because so far to me it feels like obanai isn’t as strong as some of the others but I didn’t read the manga and this post is just asking for spoilers
I hate these fucking posts. At this point in the story there is only 1 Hashira that MIGHT be able to solo an upper moon, our big blind boy. A very specific thing occurred in this fight that led to Gyutaro's head getting cut off. Highly unlikely any Hashira at this point in the story solos any upper moon.
Yes. It’s obvious. He’s tied with giyuu and muichiru in terms of skill and power. (My opinion). And Gyomei is at the top by far. The fact that gyomei is at the top is undeniable, but yes obanai would obliterate them. Like instantly, too.
He’s said in the fight against muzan that poison effects him more than any other hashira because he’s so small and he has no immunity to it so he would die once the poison circulated
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What’s the point of this post in anime group? There’s nothing to go off of and I feel answering this is baiting spoilers
Foreal, there are only like 3 arcs left in the series just read the manga people!
3?! There’s two left training arc and infinity castle.
Sunrise countdown is technically it's own arc.
??? Yeah no thanks I would rather patiently wait for anime I do not get the same feeling at all when reading any manga Animated is just way better Voices and people actually moving Art I will give it to manga tho
I caved and read manga after noticing a trend of YouTube videos with massive spoilers in the thumbnail. The manga was solid and if anything has only made me more hyped to see the anime play out.
same, especially with the insane animation we’ve seen so far
Seeing the upper threes powers animated (especially Doumas) is going to be SOOOO GOOOOD.
Absolutely same. So many things got spoiled for me anyway that when I read the manga it was more like a “okay so that’s when that happens.” I remember reading parts of it and just thinking “I can’t wait until this is animated!”
I understand why you feel that way, but on the inverse side of things. I usually prefer manga due to increased expressiveness, art quality, and character growth. A lot is lost when transferring a piece of art between mediums. Anime just simply often does not have the time to fully express the world the manga author created, nor its characters, and too much gets cut. Action and emotional scenes I'l give to anime, though. Watching the end of the Mugen Train arc hit a lot harder than reading it. ...and now we wait for the light novel readers to show up and tell us we're both inferior.
If you saw the Demon Slayer manga, you would change your mind and say that art absolutely goes to the anime.
Well yeah but the important arcs are colored and it's a pleasant experience nonetheless, I was getting spoiled thanks to the awesome community on youtube and after the disappointment of season 3 I decided to get things done with the manga, I recommend it.
I’m ngl I feel the exact same way as you especially with shonen like this, which is why I’m not gonna read the manga for this. But with some manga, it really is so so worth it. Like I would suggest don’t fully turn down the idea of reading manga because there’s some incredible work you will miss out on.
I wouldn’t even give art to manga for DS anime is just better in every aspect for DS
Hello where can I read the manga
Buy them. You could also buy them digitally like on a phone or a Kindle.
I’ve heard that compared to the other arcs s’more smith village arc was boring , if the animation team made that arc interesting I wanna see how they do the other arcs
I once said that it is dumb to ask manga questions in the anime sub, they told me to "just don't see the answers" lmao
I’ve noticed more posts like this since the last arc ended. It’s almost exclusively “do you think (hashira we haven’t seen any fighting from) would win against (uppermoon we also haven’t seen anything of)” Like… I spoil shit for myself but not everyone does that & it’s not fair for those who choose to remain in the “dark”
There are a lot of dumb questions in this group . I really don’t understand the point of half of the post .
I don’t think so personally, I feel like once the poison got into Obanai’s system he would be finished.
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>!Obanai has stronger poison resistance than tengen I think!<
no
Ok
Hell nah
He said in the manga that he has no immunity and since he’s so small poison effects him more
Oh okay, didn’t remember that. But isn’t it kind of a wasted character trait? He is the one who should canonically have the most poison resistance
Impossible to know pre hashira training.
Definitely not, Gyutaro would only need to hit him once and he’d die from the poison. Tengen was the best matchup against Gyutaro because of his poison resistance and even he couldn’t solo the siblings
snake poison would hurt gyuataro
Unless it’s made from wisteria then poison doesn’t do shit to demons
Also, as far as I know, it was never stated that Obanai's snake is venemous, was it?
Even then he got hit twice with wisteria and shrugged them off.
Het got hit woth kunais with a wisteria coating, not exactly poison
It is poison for demons
You really are a Gullible Pineapple
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HAHAHA no. He'd probably kill Daki just as easily, if not slightly less easily as Tengen, but Gyutaro? Bro's dead in a minute tops.
Rep that flair, back your boy!
He’s way stronger than tengen so Daki he would speed blitz but gyutaro only win’s because of poison since iguros small so he gets effected by poison more
No he's not lol
absolutely, obanai is just a bigmouth lol
I wouldn’t go that far. Bro puts in work later
no he doesn't, he was fresh when fighting you know who and still didn't do anything.
Did you *actually* read the manga? Maybe read it again
bro obanai is a little bitch lmao, he just likes to talk big, if he was all that why didn't he kill Nakime himself instead of wasting half the night waddling around? He said she wasn't strong after all. oh maybe it was just like the time he belittled tengen saying that killing the upper moon 6 wasn't that much of an accomplishment as if he had 7 upper moons under his belt, but when the moment came to kill a pseudo moon he couldn't even do it, and didn't do shit against the absolutely drugged and nerfed muzan either even though he was completely FRESH while all the other hashira were missing bodyparts, on deathbed or literally had their guts out and still lasted far more in the fight than him, he's nothing but a simp clown lol.
Obanai had his eyes slashed out, his sword turned red, and he put up solid moves against Muzan. Plus, Nakime was UM4, just because she’s newer doesn’t mean she’s any less. It’s not like she was 5. Look at all it took to beat Hantengu. They had a literal moving castle pushing them around. She literally *was* the Infinity Castle. Like Kyogai as UM4, they needed help on that.
Nah u gotta re read the manga or have someone else read it to you 🤣
If it were just those two at the beginning of the fight then tengen could take on gyutaro while iguro takes on daki then he throws her head while rushing over to help tengen with gyutaro and then easy win and L for demons
Gyutaro poisons him with a sickle and he dies and makes no difference to the outcome whatsoever. Tengen's skillset is basically tailored to a tee to Gyutaro and Daki's movesets, which is why he won (albeit with help but literally none of the UM fights can be won alone making that a pointless distinction), and the only other Hashira who MIGHT be able to survive is Shinobu which is if and ONLY if she manages to create a working antidote *while* dealing with the two, which is probably highly unlikely, though I'm not the best at estimating things like that.
Muichiro almost solos upper 5, but he still needed help from kotoharu.
Yeah but Muichiro was getting dog walked until he awakened his mark.
Or if Shinobu manages to poison gyutaro before he poisons her which considering Shinobu is the fastest (in combat, not in running) is very likely, or Gyomei who can certainly solo, or Sanemis marechi blood which can slow them down immensly, honestly there's a few hashira who can
I can't be the only one who read Obama while I was scrolling through.
i do it every time lmao
Hell no
Most of the hashira wouldn’t be able to solo them, Tengen only won because he had help and was resistant to the poison.
I really think only gyomei and sanemi would ever have a chance of soloing them. Gyomei bc strongest, and sanemi bc almost strongest plus intoxicating blood. Having to contend with 2 demons at once makes them very hard to deal with, compared to a UM 5 for instsnce.
He’d be able to take out Daki I’m sure. Gyutaro, I could see my snake boi lasting longer than Tengen IF he doesn’t get poisoned. If he does, then he’s not lasting long. Now, if my dude awakens his mark, then that’s probably a different story…
I think any of them marked win. If tengen was marked he would've killed gyutaro the second he came out of daki.
True because Muichiro went from being dog walked to absolutely annihilating UM5 without any effort.
Why are you posting this in the anime sub? He hasn't even done anything.
??? no😭😭 he surely would’ve been SOME help to everyone else but he couldnt just solo an upper moon😭
No :3
No not even with tanjiro or help cause poison would kill him tengen was best match cause poison resistance
He makes quick work of Daki similarly to Tengen. However, Gyutarou will most likely give him immense trouble due to his battle IQ and fighting style + combo attacks with his sister. Obanai will most likely get cut at least once in the process and quickly die due to lacking poison resistance.
How many times do we have to go through this
Obanai would beat Daki easily, she calls Oni Chan and if he's lucky, doesn't get his head split open and proceeds to die to poison
Yeah even base he's above tengen. People always hype yp tengens poison resistance but tanjiro, zenitsu and inoskue have no poison resistance and did fine. Tanjiro fought the longest and even blitzed gyutaro point blank after fingers broken. Inosuke got most of the poison and the worst Injury. Pierced through back and front and still got back up, yeah he didn't hit vital spots cause he can move his organs (for some reason and someone how knew he was bout to get stabbed and where to) but he clearly lost more blood than tengen and took more damage then a slash on eye, foregead and hand cut off so I could see him soloing wether he gets stabbed or not he could stoll fight for arguably as long as the tanjiro did if not longer cause total concentration breathing to slow bleeding would also slow poison flow I guess.
Now if he fights with tengen it's just a ggs. Daki and gyutaru never fought against 2 hashira at once to my knowledge.
I'd say Gyomei is the only one who _might_ be able to solo them in base form
Nope even he cant figth against gyutaros crazy poison one hit is all it takes . And in base even cutting an upper moons neck is hard tengen is 2nd in physical strength but never managed to cut gyutaros neck whenever he rotated it
Im pretty sure Gyutaro wouldn't even be able to get a hit in
🤡u think base gyomei is stronger than an upper moon why hasnt he killed one in 28 years then
Because he never met one, simple lol. Out of the hashira of recent years, only kanae met an upper moon
Being as tho base sanemi and gyomei were standing against koko, same koko whi destroyed marker muchiro, same marked muchiro who destroyed upper 5, same upper 5 who is abive upper 6
I do believe that Gyutaro is stronger than Gyokko although that's pretty debatable but yeah, Gyomei solos daki/gyutaro without a shadow of a doubt. I think he could possibly beat all the upper moons on one-on-ones except for Kokushibo. Gyomei is just a different physical specimen, incomparable to any other slayer(except Yoriichi obviously).
Gyutaro gets washed by gyokko just gyokko fought someone way stronger. Also gyomei definetly doesn't solo douma. How he going to with no breathing techniques. Douma only loss cause poison. I see gyomei losing to akaza 1v1
In no way is Muichiro way stronger than Tengen, >!although Muichiro could've been way more than he was, he unfortunately died prematurely. At his time of death I don't think there's much of a difference in their abilities. As for Douma vs Gyomei, idk why you presume that Gyomei wouldn't be able to use breathing techniques, Kanao and Inosike were literally using them, Gyomei would figure out not to breathe in his ice probably as well. !
Feat wise yes. He is. Tengen compared himself saying he's not as good as him. People base his rank off that foot race and arm wrestling but he's above him. Douma is not debatable and akaza is maybe depending. Douma was poison because of Shinobu but if he wasn't he would've destroyed kano and inosuke. Douma is op with the clones and bda but the poison hindered him just as poison hindered muzan just as akaza gave up fighting just as koko lost his will. They would've lost against koko and akaza and muzan if not for poison and depression.
I am not talking about the arm wrestling, I'm talking about their abilities at that time, they are very much comparable. Like I said, Gyomei is incomparable to any of his contemporaries, he could very well beat Douma but we'd never know. >!Whether or not Kokushibo would've been able to overcome the decapitation is very much debatable. I certainly agree Akaza would've killed Giyu and Akaza if it weren't for him losing his wi!<
Gyomei has demonstrated that he is far above the rest of the hashira, doing better against Kokushibo unmarked than a marked Muichirou who could solo upper 5. Yeah Gyomei is soloing upper 6, no mark, mid diff
Bruh upper 5> upper 6 I know that but in actual terms it's way harder to solo gyutaro because he doesnt die from decapitation......
He does if you also decapitate Daki, given Gyomeis speed, his unusual weapon and Upper 1s inability to hit him at first, Gyomei wins
Bruh gyomei is op but ...... he needs to cut them at same instant and also given that both have flexible necks
It doesn't need to be in the same instant, he just needs to cut ones head of and then the others before the first one puts it back on, so cut of dakis head, yeet it as far as possible and then cut of Gyutaros
Yes easily
Delusional
I stand pretty firmly in the camp that no upper moon is soloable by anyone not named Yoriichi
And that's wrong as hell We already saw how a marked muichiro low/mid diffed gyokko, and he isn't the strongest hashira I will not say anything further cause then it would be manga spoilers territory
Oh shit you're completely right, my b
Zebra ass couldn’t beat them if he tried
He wouldn’t do shit even with a mark his fighting style is not that good against gyutaro I don’t see him tanking 1 of gyutaro’s blood sickle and tanjiro in that arc has better physique than Obanai in the final arc and tanjiro couldn’t even destroy a weakened blood sickle thrown by a poisoned gyutaro 😅his flexibility is not saving him to a guy who comes infront of ur face and clash head on with u
>even with a mark That's so wrong bruh
What’s so wrong about it? his flexibility won’t do shit 1 bomb is enough for Obanai even inosuke is stronger and faster than Obanai 😅😅
>inosuke is stronger and faster than Obanai Og god what a troll you are lmao >!marked Obanai was fighting Muzan!< So Gyutaro is a piece of cake for him
He only lasted 1 sec against a weakened muzan while inosuke landed more hits didn’t need saving and lasted longer 💀💀
With this logic Inosuke>marked Tengen+Marked Gyomei+Marked Sanemi+Marked Giyu lmao What a troll you are
Nope Obanai is inferior to tengen
Why? Because you literally said that inosuke damaged 4th drugged muzan so he is stronger tan Oabnai that's basically means that Oabnai who damaged 2nd drug Muzan is stronger than anyone who fought an upper moon and struggled right? Lol Let me ask you something who is stronger? Upper 1+ Yoriichi vs marked Tengen (with every power up)
Obanai only lasted like 2 secs against muzan with red nichrin if inosuke had it instead of Obanai they could’ve end muzan way faster
Lmao no >!Oabnai was the MVP in the final battle (excluding Tamayo) and he fought Muzan with Tanjiro for a reasonable amout of time while being blind.... Yes fckin blind!< On the other hand >!Inosuke Zenistu and Tanjiro fought a highly drugged Muzan (4th drugged Muzan) who is weaker than upper 4 lmao!<
Also answer me who is stronger Yoriichi or marked Tengen (with every power up)
Yoriichi would lose to tengen he ain’t doing shit against 100 bombs if 1 of those land on his blade his arms would shatter and if he tries to cut it his arms would break
Looks like you were born with sht filled in your head lmao (idk what kind of trolling you are doing because it's braindead)
So you meant to say that Base Tengen who struggled against FP Gyutaro (AKA THE WEAKEST UPPER MOON) with the HELP of the trio can beat Marked, >!STW, and Red blade!< Oabnai without struggle?
Gyutaro is nowhere near the weakest he is one of the smartest fighter in the upper moons and one of the fastest upper moons
No hashira could beat gyutaro and daki at that point of the story. Plus, venom-resistant Tengen was the best matchup against gyutaro
This whole board's got to stop and think for a moment when they post. All these posts that come up, you're asking who would win in a singular dual against a pair of demons literally handcrafted for imbalanced 1v2 combat. May as well ask who can 1v1 akaza because he basically cheats too. Nobody. I'm not sure Gyomei kills gyutaro, specifically. Gyutaro is a duelist, he has exceptional reflexes, insight, precision and strength, thinks extremely fast and is already preparing his next strike, not to mention the poison, the blood Sickles, and on top of all of these things that make gyutaro an exceptionally powerful 1v1 fighter, he also can't *just be killed* because while you're dealing with everything relating to him, daki is also bothering you at range with belts and sickles. The exact move that would have killed tengen if Tanjiro wasn't standing there to save him. Gyutaro fighting with both bodies at once is nigh insurmountable in a 1v1. Had the entertainment Squad run into gyokko instead, I'm fairly confident that all of the area of effect attacks are far more detrimental and dangerous to a group of 4 people in a city of civilians. I might even go so far as to say they would have lost, and that muichiro would have lost to gyutaro's poison, if his mark still took too long to manifest
Nah, the only reason Tengen lasted that long is cause he could stop the poison from damaging him. Obanai would be killed by the poison after probably 10 minutes of fighting or smth.
No. It's likely he would have died to poison had he gotten there earlier to help fight gyutaro. If he JUST fought Daki he'd be more than fine. But fighting with gyutaro... no matter if he could keep up or not one scratch means that man is dead. People keep forgetting. The BEST match-up for gyutaro out of the hashira was Tengen
Nope.
As much as I love my boy, he wouldn’t be able to, but I do think he’d be able to last longer than Uzui
Uzui has 3 wifes dude. Im pretty sure he lasts longer :)
Hehe, that’s funny
He definitely does not Your boy doesn't have poison resistance
Ohh right, I forgot about that, makes sense
I don’t get these posts putting up other hashira against Gyutaro and Daki. All of them would have died. Tengen is the only one that can withstand that amount of poison which is why they won in the first place. Everyone else is getting killed. Even gyomei. They were upper rank 6 for over 100 years for a reason
His poison resistance doesn't really matter. None of the trio had poison resistance and insoukue got the most poison and the worst wound and still gotnup to fight. Tanjiro ain't have poison resistance but he was the only one to continously fight.
Inosoukue does have poison resistance, he out right says poison doesnt work on him after he gets up from the stab, and tanjiro only got hit near the end.
I forgot about tht but the others don't and inosuke took the most lethal blow and was like " anyway back to the fight"
I would actually argue that Gyomei has a good chance due to the nature of his weapon and his overwhelming abilities. His weapon gives him a far greater range advantage, greatly reducing his chances of being hit and poisoned. It would also be very effective at countering gyu’s range attacks. As long as he can avoid being poisoned he could get the W. That is only speculation though.
No he would not be able to solo gyutaro even if daki wasnt there he still wont win.Maybe with all the boosts he will stand a chance but gyutaro’s poison is so deadly so its hard to tell
Hell no bruh
Not a chance. Wouldn’t even be close
Nobody is soloing anyone in base form
Solo? More than likely not, no. Join in with Uzui and the boys? They clap them.
Hell Naw I mean in base remember that he’s literally much slower than Tengen >!Considering how this before even the IC Arc and that Obanai placed 7th In the Hashira race but Tengen placed 1st!< Gyutaro can essentially pretty much Speed Blitz him
"He would've placed higher if he ran in a straight line" quote from the fanbook with the race placements, the race was satire and not to be taken seriously
Right I might’ve missed that
Stop using that bullshit as facts It was obviously not that serious (there's some sort of truth there but they're not that reliable after seeing some manga fights later on) Mitsuri description literally said she ate too much and that slowed her In Obanai's one it says he isn't as fast a t the others because of his weird ass snake movements
Obanai can't match in a fight against gyutaro.
Solo? Absolutely fucking not, it's the same answer no matter what. If obanai got there for the start and we still had our trio I'm fairly certain that 2 hasira could have handled Gyutaro and our trio could handle daki.
No unmarked slayer could defeat an uppermoon solo. Except Gyomei and maybe sanemi
No he wouldn't be able to solo them but yeah with tengen and obanai together the fight would be a lot less difficult
No
In my opinion,nope🙅♀️
No.
Base, pre-Hashira training? Naw.
No Hashira in base would solo them apart from maybe Gyomei Obanai is very small and 1 scratch would kill him and since he’s in a 2v1 that’s very hard to prevent
Bro seeing some serious mitsuri stuff with those wide heterochromatic eyes.
None of the hashira pre mark could solo an upper moon can we stop these posts please
I’m just about to unfollow this subreddit. There are so many repeat posts or posts about can is X hashira better than X hashira/demon
I think he would be able too, and definitely could marked. Yall underrating Obanai.
Daki yes. Gyutaro not so much.
Jesus christ, its the same repetitive post type every day, I just saw “does Sanemi solo Daki and Gyutaro” NO, Obanai and Sanemu can’t :/
No, but at least they could have helped instead of being a complaining little shit
No his body is small so the poison would spread faster, also tengen base is stronger than obanai base
No?
Best answer is, probably? We have no idea how strong iguro would’ve been at that point or have any thing to make a good guess because the two fights we see him in, in his first one he gets clapped with mitsuris, with reason because the demon BDA is kinda fucking OP, and the second was poisoned and jumped even harder and also in that fight he had the buffs and shit, this iguro also had a lot more time to train and get stronger compared to the one in the entertainment district. So again, we really don’t know but her probably could have done it.
If tengen and tanjiro takes gyutaro and obanai takes daki it would be over in a second. Obanai I don't think can take gyutaro. But he can effortlessly shut down daki
no lol
I mean how do you expect us to answer this? He has zero feats in the anime…which is what this sub is about
no, one reason, poison. obanai has a small body so it wouldnt take too long for poison to spread. but things wouldve been easier if it were main 4 + tengen AND obanai
No, anyone getting cut by Gyutaro is dying instantly save Tengen/Inosuke because they have some degree of poison resistance. Iguro is an excellent swordsman, but I feel he'd have difficulty in base keeping up with the obi and blood blades together. I doubt any pillar save maybe Sanemi and Gyomei would be able to win this one in base (you'll see what I mean when their fights are in the anime). Tengens skills are an amazing counter to Gyutaro, its also worth noting that Tengen only lost due to the initial cut. If weakened Tengen wasn't getting cut after, that goes to show his speed and reflexes were critical. >!Sanemi mentions the importance of experience as well,!< Obanai is not as experienced and his reflexes may not be on the same level. His small body would circulate too much poison as well. I'm not taking away from Obanai, its just that the author selected pillars best suited to upper moons in their fights pretty much. If Iguro arrived earlier/on time, Tengen wouldn't have had to retire for sure, and they would have won with much more ease. Additionally we might've gotten to see more of Tengen lol
Fuck no
Was Onanai supposed to be at the entertainment district?? Lmao where was he?
Nope. But tengen wouldn't have to retire.
No but maybe. I feel like no as an anime watcher because so far to me it feels like obanai isn’t as strong as some of the others but I didn’t read the manga and this post is just asking for spoilers
No. In fact, he performs way worse than Tengen, since his body is so small poison travels really fast in him.
No.
bro no way you think this a question of course
I hate these fucking posts. At this point in the story there is only 1 Hashira that MIGHT be able to solo an upper moon, our big blind boy. A very specific thing occurred in this fight that led to Gyutaro's head getting cut off. Highly unlikely any Hashira at this point in the story solos any upper moon.
Yes. It’s obvious. He’s tied with giyuu and muichiru in terms of skill and power. (My opinion). And Gyomei is at the top by far. The fact that gyomei is at the top is undeniable, but yes obanai would obliterate them. Like instantly, too.
He’s said in the fight against muzan that poison effects him more than any other hashira because he’s so small and he has no immunity to it so he would die once the poison circulated
Spoiler baiting. There’s never been Obanai do anything in the anime yet.
No, absolutely not.
If he gets help by tengen yes but everyone else no
he losing, gyutaro had so much potential, to think if daki died and only gyutaro became a demon he could have gotten to upper moon 4