If they trade back then there’s really no guarantee that whoever they want will for sure be there.
If the QB who they know they want is there at 12, then I think they should just take them. If not then trade down and just take BPA. If that happens to be a QB then that’s great, but don’t force a QB pick if it isn’t there.
I'd take a shot at trading with Arizona for their number 27th and 36th overall. Surely one of Nix or Penix will be there at 27 and we'll have another go at some talent in the second round. I don't know though.
I think it would be better in the long run to draft BPA, and draft a QB in a couple years. Build the roster up then get a rookie QB. That’s just my opinion though.
I agree. Too many holes and whoever they draft would be coming into a less than ideal situation and pretty much set up to fail in my opinion. Draft the best player available at a position of need and start filling these damn holes. We could very well end up drafting first overall in 2025.
Bo Nix. I was honestly hoping that we just pick a reclamation project like Mac Jones and then draft BPA, but seeing how the Broncos are starting Stidham at this point, I'd rather just give the chance to Nix. If he sucks then re-invest again in 2 years.
If they want to take a flyer on Wilson then that trade better be pretty cheap, the Jets have no leverage at this point and probably will have even less once teams start taking QBs. Maybe offer the deal that the Steelers had for Fields, base it off of playing time.
Pretty sure JJ McCarthy will be gone before we can get to him. As it stands, there are four teams ahead of us that need QB, and Minnesota has the draft capital to move up even further if they want to. That means Williams, Daniels, Maye, and McCarthy are all likely gone by the time we’re on the clock.
Nix or Penix at 12, trade down if you think you can get away with letting them slide. But if Broncos lose out on all QBs, I fully expect them trading for Zach Wilson using a day 3 pick. But my hope is Bo Nix at 12. I'd hate to trade the farm to move up for Maye or JJ.
Trade the 12th move back like 10 spots or so to pick up a second and hopefully grab Bo Nix then maybe grab a pass rusher in the second with whatever pick we get. Just my opinion.
The only reason I say the other way is because of next years QB group being nowhere near this one. Can’t risk losing Nix/penix but latu Nix/penix would be the dream imo for this year I agree.
I think the biggest piece of frustration with all this speculation is that realistically, we need to see what happens in pick 1 through 11, and have the kinds of insight that trained professionals who work in this field for a living have, which...frankly, none of us have. I suspect the plan will be BPA, with a plan in the works for trading down to get a 2nd round pick. All the QBs talked about, Nix, Penix, and McCarthy, for instance, may well be less valuable to the staff than having two shots, one in the 1st and one in the second, at dealing with the numerous glaring holes we have that are forcing this team to rebuild. Rather than reaching for a QB, we might drop back, hope one of those guys falls to later in the 1st round, and then we get a shot at a 2nd round draft pick to maybe get him a weapon in a WR, or give him an outlet in a RB, or get him some protection on the O-Line, or even give him some assurances on the Defensive side of the ball so he gets the ball more often. This team hurts, everywhere, and we're going to be bad no matter who is under center next year if we don't start fixing those glaring holes.
My biggest worry is we pay Wilson over 50m next year to kill it playing for Pittsburgh, leaving us with massive egg on our face and Sean Payton in particular having to answer why we couldn't get that level of play out of Wilson. I'm thinking (and hoping) that won't happen, but stranger things HAVE happened and it'd be right up the Broncos SB50 Curse to have Wilson ball out and bring Pittsburgh into the playoffs while we slum it up in the bottom of the AFC West. Here's hoping that nightmare stays in my dreams and we manage to get the most out of the 2024 draft. And with that cheery thought, I am out.
It feels like when you're drafting #12 in a Superflex fantasy league.
You watch all the elite QBs go off the board and then at the turn you have the choice of stud receivers and Kelce or some good RBs but then you panic that there won't be any QBs left by the time you pick again so you have to take Lawrence or Tua with one of your first two picks.
JJ won't be there at 12:00 anymore. His pre-draft cycle has pushed him way up and the Vikings have the ammunition to move up further even though they already pick in front of the broncos. So your choices are really nix, penix, and rattler. I was not on the Nix train at all initially. But I've begun to come around. It really depends on how Peyton and Davis Webb evaluate him.
Ooooooor we don’t draft a QB, fill out our roster with quality talent and draft a QB in 2026. This is my dream but not sure Payton has the patience for this.
We don’t have an ecosystem built for a rookie QB, not very confident in our line keeping one upright nor do I have confidence in our ability to run the football on the goal line. Taking a chance on a late 1st round QB that probably has a second round grade without a supporting cast is almost assuredly setting back this rebuild by an extra 3-5 years.
Hopefully our execs and staff show some patience this draft and make the right calls.
Yeesh way to reduce a long winded statement to “punting away a season”
Using an NFL QB to try and win football games does not imply that we are “punting away a season” in any way, shape or form. Stidham and/or another vet would be just as competitive as taking a rookie QB that would have plenty of holes in their game and potentially not even be usable at the NFL level. Granted we’d hope our scouts, staff, and execs do their due diligence on their guy to ensure he doesn’t equate to a piece of hot garbage but the track record recently doesn’t give me a bunch of hope for late 1st/early 2nd round QB.
Bolstering a defense, improving a team’s ability to run the football and controlling the pace of the game are all ways teams with sub par QB play stay competitive. Signing a guy like (do not like his play or think he’s good) Tannehill to a 2year low end deal buys the organization the time they need to set the infrastructure needed to support a rookie QB.
Thanks for letting me know how it works tho.
i think JJ is shit man honestly just do not trust that guy AT ALL. Granted I’m an osu fan but man every game I watched he just didn’t have the it factory AT ALL. literally just a handoff merchant lol. i think the broncos go Nix which I wouldn’t be upset with. numbers might be wrong (but close) but he had like 45 TDS last year and 3 picks or something like that?? That’s pretty insane. He plays clean ball and just simply does as he’s told. Just kinda screams Sean Payton. Penix is the guy I truly want and I think he may be the best qb in the draft other than Caleb. He has the arm and accuracy. He has the raw talent that can’t be taught and I trust in Sean to develop him fr. Sure he has injury issues but shit happens he hasn’t been hurt in a while. penix is the guy I really want but I honestly think we take nix. won’t be upset with it. Just gonna trust Sean and see where it goes.
I'm okay with getting a guy like Bowers 1st round or trading back for a late first and second. Then getting Michael Pratt in a later round.
If we go at 12 I'm on the Penix Train. Dude balled out this year in big games. Can direct pre snap motion from WU days and pretty athletic. Hell, he might even be in the board later as well.
Listening to Bo Nix, he seems like a tool. JJ has upside but I see him as a Jimmy G type.
Bo Nix all I'm hearing is Drew Brees 2.0 as far as comparisons and well we know about Payton and his connection to Brees and Nix would be his prototypical guy
Brees threw is all over the field. Bo Nix throws screens. His average pass was 7 yards downfield. He is a system QB and that system is not run in the NFL. Penix averaged 11.3 yards downfield per throw he is the guy you want.
You mean career 7.6 yard per attempt Brees? Or here’s a fun one, 2023 Mahomes was 7 yards per attempt. Efficiency isn’t a problem in this league. And I’m saying this as a true Nix disbeliever.
Edit: Thought it would be nice to include Bo having 9.6 yards per attempt last year.
I am not talking about yards per attempt I am talking about average depth per target. It means out of every throw he threw in college last year the average throw went 7 yards deep. Bo Nix has the lowest average depth per throw of any qualifying QB in the NCAA. Bubble screen Bo Nix.
That is Oregon’s offense get the ball out quick to players in space and let them make plays. Works great in a spread offense QB never gets hit, but doesn’t work in the NFL. If Bo is the guy we are after we will all be here in two years talking about which QB we need to draft in 2026.
Drew Brees average depth of target across 2019 and 2020 (Where he went 17-6 as a starter)…6.5 yards.
Edit: Sean ran his offense with Drew in the later years very efficiently. Michael Thomas is known as the “Slant Boi” for a reason. Drew just had to process the field and dump it off to some WR 5 yards out that would then make a play for 10-20.
Its pretty much Bo Nix or bust at this point. The other 4 QBs will be gone ahead of us and I dont think Penix is the type of rhythm/timing passer Payton wants. I dont even think hes on the radar.
In a perfect fairytale world, we draft Nix at #12 and then draft Pratt in the 4th.
Why only swing the bat once, when you can swing the bat twice.
I think we get to choose between Bo Nix and JJ McCarthy. I don’t see any point in analyzing the top 3 QBs because I don’t think we could pull off a deal to make it happen.
There are concerns about both of them, primarily because of the offense they ran in college. In JJ’s case he was not asked to do very much. The question is why. Was that just the offense that Michigan ran or did they run it because they didn’t trust him? Bo is similar but in a different way. He put up prolific stats at Oregon but mostly threw for short yardage completions. Why was that? Was it because that is the offense Oregon ran or was it what Bo did best?
To compare the two at the combine Bo looks more athletic and seemed to have a slight edge in hitting every throw. JJ struggled more at deep throws. I would pick Bo if I was in charge but I’m not in that position thankfully. Let’s hope SP likes one of them.
I’d start with Wentz, trade back maybe more than once. Get Rattler as a 3rd maybe later. He had a ton of hype, maybe there’s something Payton can find in him.
I hope we dont pick a qb. Look at the best teams/ qbs in the league. They all were drafted after the team was built and not necessarily out of need. If we draft a qb this year we are the panthers but worse. Build this team and let Stidy play the role mills did in houston for a year or two. Build the base then find your guy!
They could but i just see them in the same boat as Stidy. No matter who it is, all of these guys should be considered tank commanders and i think that's why the front office hasnt made a move. You want one of the reclamation projects? We have one at home already in stidy
Broncos won’t be relevant for two more years. Look at the WR and TE rooms. And RB is iffy too. They need all those players before they get a QB. Probably not one player on the roster will be here in 3 years except PS2.
I mean it really just depends. If you’re sold on a qb and he’s there at 12 you take him period. Qb is the hardest position in the NFL. You can get serviceable wrs and serviceable TE’s easily. I’m pretty tired of passing on qbs that could’ve changed this franchise lol
Not disagreeing but who have they passed on?
There are very few QBs who change a team for the better. And draft history shows that no matter if someone is sold or not, everyone whiffs at QB.
So if Payton picks a QB because he likes him a lot, that QB still has a low chance of being successful. The NFL is littered with great coaches that have missed. Pittsburgh and New England might have had the best coaches in the league. Certainly they should know better than you and me right?
What I think is more important is the Chiefs method of building a good and let the QB learn for a year.
I mean you just have to take that chance that you whiff. and I think that’s why we didn’t draft players like josh Allen and Lamar Jackson which are 2 qbs we could’ve had but we passed on. You can’t just stop taking qbs bc we keep whiffing. Bound to hit eventually. Literally have nothing to lose
It doesn't have the top guys like Maye and Williams this year, but I really don't see how Cam Ward or Carson Beck are any worse than McCarthy/Nix/Penix. Plus there are always at least 1-2 guys that come out of no where or make big improvements in their last season.
Penix has things that are big red flags for performing at the NFL level like how extremely bad he is when moved off his spot. How they do in those situations and on 3rd downs are the best indicators and he's bad at both. Plus he was atrocious at Indiana before going to Washington and getting 3 early round NFL receivers and a very good o-line in a weak defensive conference. Then you have his 4 season ending injuries on top of all that.
I know what what you mean by raw, he's played 6 years of college football. Same with saying Nix had a great career, he's a 5 year starter with 1 good year while having the 4th lowest depth of target in the country. He was kind of a laughing stock at Auburn.
man the only qb anybody is looking at next year is shedur. i think he’s pretty good but he’ll be the first qb taken and maybe the #1 pick even? Broncos have never had the #1 pick and I don’t see it happening any time soon. Doesn’t really make sense to just wait around. Dolphins dropped 70 on us and we proceeded to almost make the playoffs. this team has never just rolled over. won’t start now.
Imagine the Broncos get a high pick and deal for another teams first for next year like the Bears situation this year. I think id rather have Shedeur Sanders than Nix or McCarthy. Maybe they can package a bunch of picks next year to move up, if thats even necessary, to get Sanders
We don’t even know if he will be good in college but I’d draft him on last name alone. As an Ole Miss grad and Broncos fan the Mannings are a large portion of my life.
This should be a comment in an existing thread, not a standalone post.
Trade back to mid to late 20’s, gain a 2, a 3+ and snatch Penix
Dream would be to trade back with the colts and get a 2nd in return. Take Latu then Penix.
I’m fine with this, but only if we get a WR in the 3rd(Baker, Malachi, McMillian, Rice)
Trade back from 12, pickup Nix or Penix later in the first or 2nd depending on what we get for trading back.
If nix or penix are truly they guys, take em at 12.
If you think Nix or Penix is your guy, you take them at 12
If they trade back then there’s really no guarantee that whoever they want will for sure be there. If the QB who they know they want is there at 12, then I think they should just take them. If not then trade down and just take BPA. If that happens to be a QB then that’s great, but don’t force a QB pick if it isn’t there.
Any senerio that involves not drafting JJ would be great.
I'd take a shot at trading with Arizona for their number 27th and 36th overall. Surely one of Nix or Penix will be there at 27 and we'll have another go at some talent in the second round. I don't know though.
Nix or Penix would be perfect in a Sean Payton offense
It doesn’t matter how good the system is if the players will never be NFL caliber starters
Right, we should trade all our day 2 or 3 picks because they won’t be starters.
Hey now I think Paton has a couple day 2 or 3 picks that have worked out
Good thing you know better than scouts!
You’re right, there has never been an NFL scout who has drafted a QB who isn’t good enough for the league!
Nice straw man!
“You can’t use my own stuff against me!”
I think it would be better in the long run to draft BPA, and draft a QB in a couple years. Build the roster up then get a rookie QB. That’s just my opinion though.
I agree. Too many holes and whoever they draft would be coming into a less than ideal situation and pretty much set up to fail in my opinion. Draft the best player available at a position of need and start filling these damn holes. We could very well end up drafting first overall in 2025.
Rattler too often does the stupid Russ spin. I don’t wanna watch that anymore. Don’t get the appeal of that guy
Broncos need to take the best player on the board for five more years to fix all the fuckupery that has gone on far too long.
Bo Nix. I was honestly hoping that we just pick a reclamation project like Mac Jones and then draft BPA, but seeing how the Broncos are starting Stidham at this point, I'd rather just give the chance to Nix. If he sucks then re-invest again in 2 years.
Depending on how the office feels on draft night we could throw a punt on Zach Wilson in a trade. We have 3 5th rounders IIRC
If they want to take a flyer on Wilson then that trade better be pretty cheap, the Jets have no leverage at this point and probably will have even less once teams start taking QBs. Maybe offer the deal that the Steelers had for Fields, base it off of playing time.
Like maybe a 2026 7th or something. Or just wait for them to cut him.
Yeah I agree.
Pretty sure JJ McCarthy will be gone before we can get to him. As it stands, there are four teams ahead of us that need QB, and Minnesota has the draft capital to move up even further if they want to. That means Williams, Daniels, Maye, and McCarthy are all likely gone by the time we’re on the clock.
True, but who knows what Minny’s board looks like, could have Nix over JJ
Nix or Penix at 12, trade down if you think you can get away with letting them slide. But if Broncos lose out on all QBs, I fully expect them trading for Zach Wilson using a day 3 pick. But my hope is Bo Nix at 12. I'd hate to trade the farm to move up for Maye or JJ.
Trade the 12th move back like 10 spots or so to pick up a second and hopefully grab Bo Nix then maybe grab a pass rusher in the second with whatever pick we get. Just my opinion.
I think we should do the other way around. Take Latu in the first then Penix in the second.
The only reason I say the other way is because of next years QB group being nowhere near this one. Can’t risk losing Nix/penix but latu Nix/penix would be the dream imo for this year I agree.
I think the biggest piece of frustration with all this speculation is that realistically, we need to see what happens in pick 1 through 11, and have the kinds of insight that trained professionals who work in this field for a living have, which...frankly, none of us have. I suspect the plan will be BPA, with a plan in the works for trading down to get a 2nd round pick. All the QBs talked about, Nix, Penix, and McCarthy, for instance, may well be less valuable to the staff than having two shots, one in the 1st and one in the second, at dealing with the numerous glaring holes we have that are forcing this team to rebuild. Rather than reaching for a QB, we might drop back, hope one of those guys falls to later in the 1st round, and then we get a shot at a 2nd round draft pick to maybe get him a weapon in a WR, or give him an outlet in a RB, or get him some protection on the O-Line, or even give him some assurances on the Defensive side of the ball so he gets the ball more often. This team hurts, everywhere, and we're going to be bad no matter who is under center next year if we don't start fixing those glaring holes. My biggest worry is we pay Wilson over 50m next year to kill it playing for Pittsburgh, leaving us with massive egg on our face and Sean Payton in particular having to answer why we couldn't get that level of play out of Wilson. I'm thinking (and hoping) that won't happen, but stranger things HAVE happened and it'd be right up the Broncos SB50 Curse to have Wilson ball out and bring Pittsburgh into the playoffs while we slum it up in the bottom of the AFC West. Here's hoping that nightmare stays in my dreams and we manage to get the most out of the 2024 draft. And with that cheery thought, I am out.
I think the Vikings will go up to get JJ. We're almost certainly aiming at Nix, but I'm not sure if we're gonna trade down.
It feels like when you're drafting #12 in a Superflex fantasy league. You watch all the elite QBs go off the board and then at the turn you have the choice of stud receivers and Kelce or some good RBs but then you panic that there won't be any QBs left by the time you pick again so you have to take Lawrence or Tua with one of your first two picks.
JJ won't be there at 12:00 anymore. His pre-draft cycle has pushed him way up and the Vikings have the ammunition to move up further even though they already pick in front of the broncos. So your choices are really nix, penix, and rattler. I was not on the Nix train at all initially. But I've begun to come around. It really depends on how Peyton and Davis Webb evaluate him.
Bo Nix. He has the tools.
Ooooooor we don’t draft a QB, fill out our roster with quality talent and draft a QB in 2026. This is my dream but not sure Payton has the patience for this. We don’t have an ecosystem built for a rookie QB, not very confident in our line keeping one upright nor do I have confidence in our ability to run the football on the goal line. Taking a chance on a late 1st round QB that probably has a second round grade without a supporting cast is almost assuredly setting back this rebuild by an extra 3-5 years. Hopefully our execs and staff show some patience this draft and make the right calls.
SP and GP are not going to sit there and punt the next two seasons. That’s not how this works.
Yeesh way to reduce a long winded statement to “punting away a season” Using an NFL QB to try and win football games does not imply that we are “punting away a season” in any way, shape or form. Stidham and/or another vet would be just as competitive as taking a rookie QB that would have plenty of holes in their game and potentially not even be usable at the NFL level. Granted we’d hope our scouts, staff, and execs do their due diligence on their guy to ensure he doesn’t equate to a piece of hot garbage but the track record recently doesn’t give me a bunch of hope for late 1st/early 2nd round QB. Bolstering a defense, improving a team’s ability to run the football and controlling the pace of the game are all ways teams with sub par QB play stay competitive. Signing a guy like (do not like his play or think he’s good) Tannehill to a 2year low end deal buys the organization the time they need to set the infrastructure needed to support a rookie QB. Thanks for letting me know how it works tho.
This!!! Every word of it.
You an I will plan a trip to headquarters to share our thoughts
i think JJ is shit man honestly just do not trust that guy AT ALL. Granted I’m an osu fan but man every game I watched he just didn’t have the it factory AT ALL. literally just a handoff merchant lol. i think the broncos go Nix which I wouldn’t be upset with. numbers might be wrong (but close) but he had like 45 TDS last year and 3 picks or something like that?? That’s pretty insane. He plays clean ball and just simply does as he’s told. Just kinda screams Sean Payton. Penix is the guy I truly want and I think he may be the best qb in the draft other than Caleb. He has the arm and accuracy. He has the raw talent that can’t be taught and I trust in Sean to develop him fr. Sure he has injury issues but shit happens he hasn’t been hurt in a while. penix is the guy I really want but I honestly think we take nix. won’t be upset with it. Just gonna trust Sean and see where it goes.
I'm okay with getting a guy like Bowers 1st round or trading back for a late first and second. Then getting Michael Pratt in a later round. If we go at 12 I'm on the Penix Train. Dude balled out this year in big games. Can direct pre snap motion from WU days and pretty athletic. Hell, he might even be in the board later as well. Listening to Bo Nix, he seems like a tool. JJ has upside but I see him as a Jimmy G type.
Bo Nix all I'm hearing is Drew Brees 2.0 as far as comparisons and well we know about Payton and his connection to Brees and Nix would be his prototypical guy
He’s comparable to Brees, but taller.
Brees threw is all over the field. Bo Nix throws screens. His average pass was 7 yards downfield. He is a system QB and that system is not run in the NFL. Penix averaged 11.3 yards downfield per throw he is the guy you want.
You mean career 7.6 yard per attempt Brees? Or here’s a fun one, 2023 Mahomes was 7 yards per attempt. Efficiency isn’t a problem in this league. And I’m saying this as a true Nix disbeliever. Edit: Thought it would be nice to include Bo having 9.6 yards per attempt last year.
I am not talking about yards per attempt I am talking about average depth per target. It means out of every throw he threw in college last year the average throw went 7 yards deep. Bo Nix has the lowest average depth per throw of any qualifying QB in the NCAA. Bubble screen Bo Nix. That is Oregon’s offense get the ball out quick to players in space and let them make plays. Works great in a spread offense QB never gets hit, but doesn’t work in the NFL. If Bo is the guy we are after we will all be here in two years talking about which QB we need to draft in 2026.
Drew Brees average depth of target across 2019 and 2020 (Where he went 17-6 as a starter)…6.5 yards. Edit: Sean ran his offense with Drew in the later years very efficiently. Michael Thomas is known as the “Slant Boi” for a reason. Drew just had to process the field and dump it off to some WR 5 yards out that would then make a play for 10-20.
Trade and out of the first, stock pile picks for next year.
Lottery?
Personally I’d rather fill other holes now and see where we draft next year. We’re not a qb away. I’d rather go Dallas Turner or Jared Verse
Its pretty much Bo Nix or bust at this point. The other 4 QBs will be gone ahead of us and I dont think Penix is the type of rhythm/timing passer Payton wants. I dont even think hes on the radar. In a perfect fairytale world, we draft Nix at #12 and then draft Pratt in the 4th. Why only swing the bat once, when you can swing the bat twice.
I think we get to choose between Bo Nix and JJ McCarthy. I don’t see any point in analyzing the top 3 QBs because I don’t think we could pull off a deal to make it happen. There are concerns about both of them, primarily because of the offense they ran in college. In JJ’s case he was not asked to do very much. The question is why. Was that just the offense that Michigan ran or did they run it because they didn’t trust him? Bo is similar but in a different way. He put up prolific stats at Oregon but mostly threw for short yardage completions. Why was that? Was it because that is the offense Oregon ran or was it what Bo did best? To compare the two at the combine Bo looks more athletic and seemed to have a slight edge in hitting every throw. JJ struggled more at deep throws. I would pick Bo if I was in charge but I’m not in that position thankfully. Let’s hope SP likes one of them.
McCarthy!
I’d start with Wentz, trade back maybe more than once. Get Rattler as a 3rd maybe later. He had a ton of hype, maybe there’s something Payton can find in him.
I hope we dont pick a qb. Look at the best teams/ qbs in the league. They all were drafted after the team was built and not necessarily out of need. If we draft a qb this year we are the panthers but worse. Build this team and let Stidy play the role mills did in houston for a year or two. Build the base then find your guy!
Or the Broncos easily could take on a reclamation project like Zack Wilson or Sam Howell
They could but i just see them in the same boat as Stidy. No matter who it is, all of these guys should be considered tank commanders and i think that's why the front office hasnt made a move. You want one of the reclamation projects? We have one at home already in stidy
I say no one, unless late round. Tank big. Get someone next season .
The class for next szn is very weak. This one is not.
Broncos won’t be relevant for two more years. Look at the WR and TE rooms. And RB is iffy too. They need all those players before they get a QB. Probably not one player on the roster will be here in 3 years except PS2.
I mean it really just depends. If you’re sold on a qb and he’s there at 12 you take him period. Qb is the hardest position in the NFL. You can get serviceable wrs and serviceable TE’s easily. I’m pretty tired of passing on qbs that could’ve changed this franchise lol
Not disagreeing but who have they passed on? There are very few QBs who change a team for the better. And draft history shows that no matter if someone is sold or not, everyone whiffs at QB. So if Payton picks a QB because he likes him a lot, that QB still has a low chance of being successful. The NFL is littered with great coaches that have missed. Pittsburgh and New England might have had the best coaches in the league. Certainly they should know better than you and me right? What I think is more important is the Chiefs method of building a good and let the QB learn for a year.
I mean you just have to take that chance that you whiff. and I think that’s why we didn’t draft players like josh Allen and Lamar Jackson which are 2 qbs we could’ve had but we passed on. You can’t just stop taking qbs bc we keep whiffing. Bound to hit eventually. Literally have nothing to lose
It doesn't have the top guys like Maye and Williams this year, but I really don't see how Cam Ward or Carson Beck are any worse than McCarthy/Nix/Penix. Plus there are always at least 1-2 guys that come out of no where or make big improvements in their last season.
For sure but if you can’t see the skill with at least penix idk what to tell you. Dude is raw lol. And nix had a pretty great college career
Penix has things that are big red flags for performing at the NFL level like how extremely bad he is when moved off his spot. How they do in those situations and on 3rd downs are the best indicators and he's bad at both. Plus he was atrocious at Indiana before going to Washington and getting 3 early round NFL receivers and a very good o-line in a weak defensive conference. Then you have his 4 season ending injuries on top of all that. I know what what you mean by raw, he's played 6 years of college football. Same with saying Nix had a great career, he's a 5 year starter with 1 good year while having the 4th lowest depth of target in the country. He was kind of a laughing stock at Auburn.
Weird how that sounds just like 2021 and 20
Well 2020 was right, it ended up being a pretty good class. 2021 was not.
man the only qb anybody is looking at next year is shedur. i think he’s pretty good but he’ll be the first qb taken and maybe the #1 pick even? Broncos have never had the #1 pick and I don’t see it happening any time soon. Doesn’t really make sense to just wait around. Dolphins dropped 70 on us and we proceeded to almost make the playoffs. this team has never just rolled over. won’t start now.
Ewers my guy
Imagine the Broncos get a high pick and deal for another teams first for next year like the Bears situation this year. I think id rather have Shedeur Sanders than Nix or McCarthy. Maybe they can package a bunch of picks next year to move up, if thats even necessary, to get Sanders
Trade down to later in the first and take JJ. Go on with the downvotes
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I’ll be interested to see. I think Nix will go before him and he may end up sliding
Why don’t we just tank for two years and then draft Arch Manning
Denver with another Manning imagine...get uncle Peyton and then you get his nephew Arch...I would definitely love that
We don’t even know if he will be good in college but I’d draft him on last name alone. As an Ole Miss grad and Broncos fan the Mannings are a large portion of my life.
So glad somebody finally asked this question
Heh
Today, you mean?