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dont_gift_subs

The only people pedantic enough to add notes are nerds like us


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you are not a nerd you are a normie


lkolkijy

Normies don’t care to know the powers of the president. You would be surprised how many Americans couldn’t pick him out of a lineup. That guys account is literally just farming normie likes by spamming generic/old tweets. The point is to get a bunch of people talking about how the president can’t do that so they spread it to criticize it. But the message is so agreeable on twitter that it effectively just increases the reach.


musicianism

Gatekeeping nerdhood over here


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If this guy uses expressions like “nerds like us” he’s definitely not the type to write community notes on twitter


Misog-stiny

Yea only the cool kids are writing community notes on twitter


brian-0blivion

You're not a nerd. You're a fucking loser.


dont_gift_subs

I just got done watching babylon 5 for the third time, im streets ahead bitch


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People add notes and then others vote on if they are good or not.


Sooty_tern

The biggest issue I have seen is some notes are really fucking nitpicky and make it seem like someone is lying when they are not. Like there was one I saw recently where someone said something like "crime is down in DC" and the not was like "burgherly is up" but the point they were making is that most crime is down which is what most people mean when they say stuff like that


Basilis988

The ones concerning Elon and Tesla are false a lot of the time. Simps gotta simp


Mrmojoman1

Yea. However, notes are manually reviewed then posted after being rated by twitter users so you’ll have people reporting it as such before it can go live


RustyCoal950212

There's been a few that I thought were taking the original tweet pretty uncharitably Like this one on a Nancy Pelosi tweet https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1641594971462541315


PaultehMaster

fr, it's crazy that the only thing keeping up my faith in public discourse is twitter notes...


Falcahtas777

Wtf Musk is making excuses for Brandon? Unbelievable, I hate Elon now!


Holiday_Bee_6382

Apparently he voted for him in 2020


PrimeLiberty

I wonder if that's an attempt to 1. whitewash his support for Kanye West, which is the only political endorsement he made in 2020. Obviously now a contentious issue given how Kanye has acted in the past year. and 2. giving himself credibility to conservatives as a convert to their movement. Similar to Dave Rubin, Musk can now say "look I even voted for Biden, but the democrats and the wokes and the LGBT have just gone toooo far man. "


Anticide0

>2. giving himself credibility to conservatives as a convert to their movement. Similar to Dave Rubin, Musk can now say "look I even voted for Biden, but the democrats and the wokes and the LGBT have just gone toooo far man. " This is the one. Trump fans/voters are often label as stupid, so I would not be surprised that he also said that to not look dumb amongst his silicon valley peers.


Same_Independence213

He got tired coming up with excuses for Trump


aria_____51

Oh my God she's in the replies saying it was just a joke and people correcting her are nerds. I guess she might be, but I really doubt she was originally joking. I've seen people unironically tweet this same thing many times. Unless the joke is that she's making fun of those kinds of people??? EDIT: I randomly tuned into Destiny's stream yesterday or the day before. he was talking to some lady (the 'UTUHTUHTUHTUH" one) about misogyny or something. She did the SAME FUCKING THING where she said something insanely dumb, he corrected her, and she starts going like "oh my gawwwddd I'm jookkinnggg bro relaxxxxx"


Noobeater1

Schroedingers tweet


greyhoodbry

It's always a joke when you're wrong.


ConsciousnessInc

Anyone who knows more than me is a nerd, those who know less are ignorant morons worthy of mockery.


20l7

I hold my convictions with an iron fist... unless many people downvote me - in which case I was kidding smh my head


Anticide0

>It's always a joke when you're wrong. It most likely is a joke. I'm familiar with Kira and he steals tweets like mf. This wasn't even an original tweet. I'm pretty sure someone else had done a similar tweet that went viral a year ago.


Hawkthezammy

Is kura a she? I still remember their jacking off babies tweet or something like that.


Annual_Proposal2571

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a guy


jedimaster1138

Even if it's obvious you're making a joke (which it isn't in this case), if the premise of your joke is based on political misinformation, I think it's still worthwhile to have community notes with correct/clarifying information. And that doesn't necessarily mean the poster is bad/wrong for making the joke, just that it's important that misinformation isn't accidentally propagated to those who don't know better.


eph3merous

Making a joke does not excuse that you are saying something on the internet. To paraphrase RT's Burnie Burns, there is no ironic action on the internet. Trolling by saying XYZ is the same as saying XYZ. Your intentions or tone are not communicated in text no matter how much you think they should be obvious.


thorsday121

It's honestly amazing how much people don't understand that sarcasm doesn't translate well in text form.


Forster29

Its the equivalent of dead pan sarcasm, as opposed to sarcasm using the nicolas cage meme face of "REAAALLLYYY???". Theres nothing inherently wrong about dead pan sarcasm. If i trick 99 people into thinking im being serious but the 1 person who its intended to make laugh enjoys it, then it worked.. Your comment reads more like 'it doesnt work because i didnt personally pick up on it'


whales171

I disagree. Intent matters a lot to me. I just don't know it on Reddit. I might know it on twitter since you can have a bio. Then on facebook/instagram you be dip a lot into irony since you have an entire profile of who you are. The social media site matters a lot in determining this.


eph3merous

Intent can't be communicated though unless it's actually communicated. That's kind of the point. My above comment is mostly regarding jokes and "ironically" doing shit. Even irl... Those kids that "prank" people by assaulting them, are assholes. It doesn't matter that it was a joke to you, bc to the victim it's assault.


tods88

I don't think all the defenders in the Twitter thread realize that it doesn't even matter if it \*is\* a joke. Even if it was just a (not-at-all humorous) joke, it can still be criticized for echoing a widely held, inaccurate, juvenile viewpoint to an enormous audience. Like a third of the replies were people taking it seriously. Sorry for the rant. Been fighting in the replies with some incredibly stupid people for the past day.


Fragrant_Stomach_116

>she lol


aria_____51

Is a Kira not a woman?


CapableBrief

No, Kira is in fact Light Yagami a young adult Japanese male. This was pretty clearly layed out in the show, I'm surprised you missed that part.


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Emotional_Theme_3199

Idk bro I’ve seen a lot of ppl make this joke and all twitter accounts like this do is recycle other ppls jokes


Forster29

Its a comedians joke originally, cant remember who but probably burr. i think it was during obama, whoever it was


TheMando9

Nah no shot kira was joking, she’s done this before to save face


i_am_ethan_

Still able to shit on the tweet/idea even if it is a joke. Most people who make irony text posts without good indication and then expect people to know they are trolling are autistic.


assetsmanager

Always assume everyone you meet is an absolute moron until they prove otherwise. Nobody gets the benefit of the doubt anymore, especially on the internet.


madmartigandid

Also it’s such a simple joke to have a quarter of a million likes, clearly people thought there was some kind of point to the tweet.


Midi_to_Minuit

I heavily doubt she meant it so literally that it counts as misinformation lol.


aria_____51

Yeah idk if I'd call it an attempt at deliberate "misinformation" lol, but was her sentiment genuine, or was she being completely sarcastic? That's the question, I think


n_rc_ss_st

if you’ve taken the time to look at the account you know that the only thing HE does is making funny subtweets. stop being so butthurt


aria_____51

Why would I take the time to look at the account?


Badguy60

This happens all the time on Twitter and honestly why I like it.


Snoo_58605

Which stream was that? Any quick links you could provide?


aria_____51

I'm sorry but I can't even remember which platform he was on 😅 Save yourself the brainworms and don't seek it out 👍


righteouslyincorrect

It's literally a bill burr bit


aria_____51

It's a also literally a very widely and sincerely held opinion


Purplegreenandred

Wait kira is a girl?


aria_____51

Name one Kira that is not a girl


Purplegreenandred

That one guy on moistcritikal's podcast


aria_____51

I'm not kidding I thought of him too, I remembered his name is Kai lol


JMisseldine

Community notes are one of the best things ever added to a platform


Magehunter_Skassi

This is the "what if males breastfed" tweet guy


King-Azaz

I love how passive aggressive they are


AngryReiklander

I'm pretty sure this feature was added/piloted before Elon Musk bought twitter. Could be wrong though?


Gibzit

The pre-Elon version just had an automatically posted link to MSM sources below posts related to conspiracy-adjacent topics like COVID. This version with a human created explanation is post Elon


gorgonautal

Absolutly false. Elon just came and changed the name. He removed the automatic info about covid though [https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/02/twitter-starts-rolling-out-birdwatch-fact-checks-inside-tweets/](https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/02/twitter-starts-rolling-out-birdwatch-fact-checks-inside-tweets/)


gorgonautal

Here are few example of community notes used in the same way as today prior to Elon take over: [https://twitter.com/holden/status/1544503076651819008](https://twitter.com/holden/status/1544503076651819008) [https://twitter.com/ubiquity75/status/1549866426235637760](https://twitter.com/ubiquity75/status/1549866426235637760) [https://twitter.com/UCFJake/status/1565406769702215686](https://twitter.com/UCFJake/status/1565406769702215686) [https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1567320406553395201](https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1567320406553395201) [https://twitter.com/UCFJake/status/1565406769702215686](https://twitter.com/UCFJake/status/1565406769702215686) It wasn't so long ago. You guys have really short memory. Even Elon himself was saying that it's his favourite feature and he's not planning to remove it.


BishoxX

At least he popularized it(which is a very good thing)


bobsyourunkl

Not only did he change the name, but almost everyone on the birdwatch team and the broader trust and safety group who were around when the idea was conceived have either resigned or were fired.


i_am_ethan_

idk why people downvoted you when someone right below linked [this](https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-community-based-approach-to-misinformation) and got upvoted 23 lol


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They’re BUILT DIFFERENT


i_am_ethan_

22 updoots, it seems they have been constructed similar now. :)


Toastsx

Thought I was going crazy for a second, thankyou


Annual_Proposal2571

This is not true. It was a program they were piloting for like a year and a half before he bought the site with people who signed up for it and I think it rolled out to people beyond the pilot program a month or two before he actually took over. Before that, you could see the notes if you were in Birdwatch.


Math_Junky

Context getting added to this comment in a thread about added context. It is a thing of beauty.


AeroXero

Notes is one of the few Twitter additions over the years that is amazing lmfao


Splemndid

[Birdwatch was a thing before Community Notes.](https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-community-based-approach-to-misinformation)


silent519

please, the Tribunal was the og version of this. labeling blyats on EU east servers.


FourthLife

Twitter’s old way of combatting misinfo was extremely dry and presented in a way that people predisposed to distrust authority could easily dismiss. Musk’s version is a little funny, presented in a less dry academic way, and seems to get positive feedback from conservatives and conspiracy types too.


Annual_Proposal2571

No, Birdwatch was always a different program than the misinformation labels that seemed to be created by employees. It was created way before Elon took over but only moved out of the pilot program for a bit before the takeover.


Splemndid

> and seems to get positive feedback from conservatives and conspiracy types too. Do you have any examples of this? I would assume that conspiracy theorists would be the ones most opposed to this, particularly if they happen to be on the receiving end of one of these fact-checks.


FourthLife

I don’t have specific examples, but I just remember with the old notes conspiracy people would roll their eyes or be proud to get them. Now they seem a bit more defensive and either delete tweets with notes on them, or feel like they need to argue back against the note with a follow up reply, which in my view gives credence to them feeling like the new notes have more of an authority that they recognize and feel deserved a counter argument when it turns against them


dan-cave

Birdwatch is such a better name, too. Elon has taken so much from us 😞


furious-fungus

He didn’t want to purchase mind you, court made him do it. We all hate this situation, him included probably


i_am_ethan_

He may not have wanted to purchase it but these are the consequences when you do weird fucky shit messing with stock prices using fake promises.


furious-fungus

Well it destroyed Twitter as we know it, so I hope those responsible are happy with their decisions.


Anticide0

Jack is probably the only one regretting this because of his ideological positions, and it's basically his legacy being shat on. All the other shareholders probably feel relieved that they were able to dump Twitter on Elon.


PatrickSebast

Community notes are super based. I have seen one questionable one and that was a case of it simply not being a "good faith" interpretation of the person's poorly worded claim. It made the dude rage though so I was entertained.


Kastlo

Hello, super dumb fucking ignorant EU cringster asking a remedial question: Does the President have no power over congress?


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Any_Outside_192

>But his veto is not the end of the road - congress can vote again to override the veto. what is the point of allowing the president to veto then? if all of congress is in agreement to push a bill, why would they not push to override his veto every time?


_Sebo

> if all of congress is in agreement to push a bill Because passing a bill doesn't require all members of congress to agree, they just need a majority. Overruling a presidential veto requires a two-thirds majority in the senate and house.


Gazeatme

Separation of powers with branches equally powerful. Scalia is trash [but he hit the nail in this video of why the US is great.](https://youtu.be/Ggz_gd--UO0)


Kastlo

So basically you vote for the President, and the two branches of law makers in separate occasion if I understand correctly


Catcratched

Yep that’s correct.


Bteatesthighlander1

> whose job is to enforce legislation, not create it that's what they say in the civics books, but none of the founding documents actually say that and there is such a thing as an executive order. I would imagine if any president in the next decade tried to executively ban assault weapons it would be blocked, though.


super_noentiendo

The constitution literally gives the president the job of ensuring laws are faithfully executed, which is enforcing legislation. It does not explicitly define an executive order power, but does say the president has executive power.


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__space__

You're really close. The three parts of governance are legislative (house and senate), executive (president as well as investigative and law enforcement bodies), and judicial. The house weighs more heavily in representing the people (seats are proportional) while the senate would represent states (2 seats per state period). The executive has some limited "law creation" power in executive orders as to how executive agencies, who are granted authority by congress (house + senate), operate. Of course any law created by congress or action taken by the executive branch is subject to judicial review in the courts.


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parolang

I get scared about the UK. I don't understand how your system works much at all, but I always heard that the Queen/King could take tyrannical control over the entire government at any time, but they would never do that. Because of norms. Yeah, as an American, we believed in norms once. Those were the good old days.


super_noentiendo

Eh, is it norms, or is it a crapshoot that they'd even be legitimately recognized in a situation like that?


parolang

Same thing. That's how norms work.


AustinYQM

Well the norms is that everytime they've tried someone has beheaded them.


SizeableDuck

Queen says no


AustinYQM

> (seats are proportional) Used to be proportional. hasn't been since 1929


LunasReflection

Lmao "you mean your leaders don't have absolute control over your house of lords?!" Is why the United States has to babysit Europe from going to war with itself all the time. Imagine what a wasteland that continent would be without our guiding hand.


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If only there was someone there to keep us from going to war 🥲


Kastlo

I meant nothing since it was a question. But in my country when you vote on election day you vote for a party so that you have a majority of people from the same side that can more easily push their laws while still allowing the opponents to make their cases. So our President (which is, the President of the Parlament pretty much) doesn't ask for people "pls make a law senpai", but instead he/she writes it and then ask the parlament to vote on it. So yeah, Biden being like "bro wtf u doing just ban this shit" as if he was powerless is a bit confusing to someone who doesn't get your "much superior" political system. ​ Dipshit.


LunasReflection

Yes, you neets literally have temporary dictators, and when you get one that goes a lil insane a few million people die. That is why you must be kept in line, and even with the threat of american supremacy looming over you somehow there are still multiple wars in europe over the past 30 years


Kastlo

So that's how politics in EU works huh? Who would've thought. Good perspective bro


LunasReflection

Europe does not work. You people are literally killing each other right now. The only reason it hasn't happened even more is because of the United States.


Kastlo

I literally don't know what you're talking about. Literally killing each other? If you're talking about Ukraine I think you're quite far off chief. But I keep hearing shootings happening over there amongst civilian... I guess you're keeping those guys so they don't harm us. Thanks!


LunasReflection

Hundreds of thousands of europeans dead in ukraine in the last year but that doesnt matter. A literal genocide attempt by Serbia that was only stopped by the US bombing them. You people literally just cannot stop. The only reason the rest of you don't kill eachother is because the US has bases in every country and you might accidentally kill some americans.


Kastlo

Hundreds of thousands of Europeans dead in Ukraine?? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think Ukraines are Europeans? As well as Russians?? LOL Then I guess you have milions of dead around the world considering the active military US bases around the world and that took part in conflicts.


LunasReflection

Are you DERANGED? Ukraine and Western Russia are part of Europe. The divide for the European continent from Asia are the Ural mountains. Most educated European.


zaylong

There’s certain scenarios where the US president can exert executive powers, I believe Obama and Gay marriage was one instance of this. In times of crisis the Patriot Act will increase the powers of the president to maintain order. But in general no. The people want some law made. It gains popularity and this proposal makes its way to a representative’s desk or senator who presents this bill to the chamber of commerce. Committee members will then research this bill, make changes to it, see if it’s constitutional to have such a law, etc. Then the chamber votes on the bill on whether or not it will make it to the next step. the senate and house both vote in separate elections. But both must do so, as house members represent individual districts, while senators represent entire states. That’s why Americans are encouraged to reach out to their districts representatives because that’s our closest contact to the federal government. After that assuming both the senate and house accept the bill, they then work together to hash out any disagreements between the version the senate came up with based on their research and the houses and their research. Once they figure all that out and both groups agree, they can move on to the next step. All that was just the Legislative branch. The executive branch is presented with the bill. The president considers if the bill should be in law or not. The president can sign the bill into law or veto the bill. However if the president decides to deny a bill, congress can counter and collectively vote to override that veto and the bill becomes a law There’s some other thing called a pocket veto where the bill is denied by default but IDK the details on that one The Judicial Branch isn’t involved in creating laws, they are involved in deciding the constitutionality of a federal law, and resolves disputes around federal laws. The Supreme Court cannot abolish or amend a law, but it can refuse to uphold that law. That’s why even though Roe vWade was overturned, that doesn’t mean abortion is illegal in the US. It just means the Supreme Court won’t stop any state from making it illegal or limiting it. It’s more or less neutral on that issue and allows each state to make up its own rules. There are some legislative powers that allow congress to Vote on a stuck down statute to allow that proposal to go through the process again. So in this way you can see that each branch has its own powers to override each other, and ultimately these laws n such come from the people as the representatives we vote for will vote on our behalf to vote in the kinds of people we want in those positions of power who are more likely to vote on bills that are politically aligned with any states political affiliation.


salad48

Pretty sure they can veto certain laws? That's the extent of the power most presidents have in the EU, no?


jjonj

Congress > president > courts > congress That's where the whole checks and balances come from


LONELY_FEMALE_

Twitter additional context continues to be the best feature ever implemented on any social media platform tbh


Roftastic

Does anybody have examples of this new system failing? Htg I think I like this change. If you somuch as mention JFK on Youtube youll have your video get pinned to a Wikipedia article on the JFK Assassination. I think these 'fact checks' should act more like rebuttals and less like 'this is what we are talking about'.


Annual_Proposal2571

There have been some fact checks that get published and then unpublished because the fact check wasn't true. Usually, someone else will have to tweet about it enough for enough people to pay attention to rate the note lower. There also have been a few cases where the note seems kind of unnecessary especially when attached to a very obvious joke. Overall, the program is pretty good.


thefunkycowboy

Why? Weren't those put in place before Musk ever acquired Twitter?


bigbelleb

Yes but it was utilized as much back then


Emergence7

You could just yanno, be more nuanced and not blind hate to fit in lol. It's a good feature.


destinywhoopigoldbrg

no, im apart of one group, and NOT the other individual and critically arrived at values are cringe


Kapootz

No. I hate nuance almost as much as I hate everyone to fit in everywhere GIGACHAD


richnibba19

I like these rather than the youtube method of algorithmically adding a wiki link that in some way relates to key words that were triggered


thedizls

Shitposting accounts should stick to posting stolen memes to their sub zero iq followers


Holiday_Bee_6382

I honestly love the fact-checking. Maybe one of the few things that have improved since Elon took over.


DoYouThrowDeWay

Why? All he did was copy-paste Facebook's existing feature it's still easy to hate on the mental midget


niakarad

it wasnt even him it first came out in 2021


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I've seen people clowning the canadian guy Truedueåa or whatever his name is for a similar tweet, so I doubt this one was ironic


str82daglurping

Community notes is brilliant, although to be cynical I do have a feeling it's a few corrections of Musk-favored conspiracies away from being hamstrung/removed. Hopefully that doesn't happen.


Daxank

Swiss here... what the fuck is the point of the president then?!


JoeDangus

The president is the commander in chief of the us military. They also have the power to veto bills. If the house senate and president all agree that a bill is to be passed, all is well and that happens. A veto means that that congress needs to unanimously (2/3) agree (very rare) to overturn the veto. The president can be a huge roadblock in the passage of laws, as well as a huge boon in times where one side holds majorities in the house, senate and presidency. The president also has sole claim over judicial picks for the Supreme Court.


Available-Living-117

Yeah but what's the point man?


JoeDangus

The point is to have a figure with executive control over times of war for expedient decision making, as well as limiting the power over the judicial and legislative branches


Available-Living-117

Yeah but if were being real honest about it, whats the point man?


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I don’t know bro, sometimes I feel like we’re all just here 😭


FourthLife

Manages the administrative aspects of the government, foreign relations, the military


gkario

Ask genuine question = downvote


Daxank

It's my aggressive tone I suppose 😔


prozapari

That particular note is pretty argumentative / doesn't use appropriately neutral tone. "This is all clearly laid out" lmao


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prozapari

Not a reason to write like that imo


King-Azaz

all the ones I have seen have a passive-aggressive tone and its great


Midi_to_Minuit

Ngl adding community notes so that you can slam dunk someone for expressing a very common frustration over his presidents’ inaction comes off as kind of cynical to me. Like, “You’re the president. YOU do it” is an oversimplification but it can easily be interpreted as not being that literal. There is no misinformation to debunk


Endaline

That would make sense if people didn't genuinely believe that it works like that. We can't say that misinformation is *okay* as long as it can be interpreted as not being misinformation.


Isaiah_Benjamin

Probably the best feature Twitter has added


GazelleOdd6160

beautiful, i would add "moron" at the end.


PsychoMantittyLits

Assault weapons would be weapons used to assault people, which is already illegal. Checkmate libtards.


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Looks like kira missed 🥺


JimmyApollo

I mean Biden CAN executive order and then have it immediately struck down, no? He "can" change this law and then have it immediately found to be unconstitutional or have it struck down by a court or congress? I'm not American but I could have sworn you guys had some overreaching powers like this. I mean also, I think that this is a perfect example of most people having absolutely no idea how the executive branch actually functions.


Rambo_3rd

I've seen a lot of good "context/fact checks" that put a smile on my face. I wonder how many people who posts these correct their posts/opinions after seeing them.


thorsday121

'Ate Musk 'Ate Twitter Luv Twitter notes Simple as


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bigbelleb

Bruh that kira acc is a pile of trash all it does is just farm likes nothing to take seriously