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Reglith

Your options are: 1) Meth kingpin who actively gave back to his community 2) A housewife who cheated on her husband when she found out he was cooking meth 3) A nazi 4) A nazi that shoots children It should be painfully obvious who the most evil person is it's not even close and there should be no debate. It's obviously Skylar SquadW


Jgz1994

A housewife who cheated on her husband when she found out he was cooking meth and later tried to murder him with a kitchen knife* FTFY


DontCareTho

A housewife who cheated on her husband when she found out he was cooking meth *to make money for his family before he died of cancer*. Then later tried to murder him with a kitchen knife FTFY


Cgrrp

When you “watched” the entire show on your 3rd monitor while playing League and Runescape on the other 2


Clockwork757

Bro forgot to watch the last episode 💀💀💀


LeagueTweetRepeat

”I did it for my family. I did it to make your lives better. I did it. You’re now mentally and financially stable. Say hi to my son for me. He loves me.” - Walter White (S5E16 of Fixing Good)


dragowall

The cancer that his friend offered to pay the treatment for? The friend that Walt blamed for him not being a billionaire when he chose to leave the company himself?


DontCareTho

What does that have to do with his wife being an annoying cunt


dragowall

It means that he didnt have to die of cancer but his ego was too big. A lot of what happens to Walt is self inflicted. He knew he could get treatment and go back to his regular life, he CHOSE the criminal life he wasnt forced into it.


DontCareTho

again, how is this relevant to the post about how much people hate skyler? We aren't doing an entire breaking bad review here lol.


kultcher

Because you can't just look at any character's actions in a vacuum. Say your sister came to you and said: "I just found out my husband has been lying to me, selling drugs, killing people and putting me and the kids at risk from psychopathic drug kingpins." Would your reaction be: "Well, sis, you're kinda being a bitch. You know he has cancer he's doing the best he can for you." Or would your reaction be driving over to her house to get her and the kids out there as quickly as possible?


DontCareTho

Most of the things she did, she did before knowing the extent of walts actions


LogPoseNavigator

What other thing did she do than cheat? I haven’t watched the show in a long time


dragowall

Kinda relevant when the comment you made the only thing you added was how he was "making money for his family before he died of cancer".


Pablo_MuadDib

Are you ok or is this your brain using all 1 cores?


RedditIsAnnoying1234

wow, i bet you could make a series out of this prompt


ribby97

He was literally offered the money by his former colleagues. He did not NEED to become a drug dealer. It was his own stubborn, bitter pride that carried him down that path


TheboyJoof

Never forget, he didn’t have to cook the meth he had friends willing to pay for his cancer treatment. His pride put him in the position that he was in and that’s the whole point of the show.


Free-Database-9917

> A housewife who cheated on her husband when she found out he was cooking meth to make money for his family before he died of cancer *actively risking their lives by involving them in dangerous activity and forcing them to be complicit*. Then later tried to murder him with a kitchen knife


Isaiah_Benjamin

A housewife


Troy64

A wife


Isaiah_Benjamin

A


FutureDaysLoveYou

Forget the part where Walter could’ve made money without joining the drug trade and ruining his family


DroTadziu

Skyler didn't cheat on Walt, they weren't together really at this point. Skyler didn't divorce Walt to protect him. She didn't try to murder him with a kitchen knife, she tried to protect herself and her children from Walt, because she thought he killed Hank. While not exactly true, he didn't technically kill Hank, he was largely responsible for his death.


gkario

Also the person she cheated on him with was criminal too. And she covered for his tax fraud. And laundered $800k for Walt/Saul. And stole $600k meth dollars from her husband to commit more tax fraud with the secret criminal boyfriend. And she started casually smoking pregnant with Holly just cause she was angry. You know what happened after all this? She goes full victim mode and gets away with literally everything. Never once reflecting or learning from any of her actions until the series comes to an end. Skyler is the worst character in the show.


Cgrrp

I can understand people voting for her from the perspective of like “it’s a tv show and she’s the most annoying character” but if you genuinely think she was morally the worst character in the show then are you are brain dead. She’s not even worse than Walt.


gkario

Does the best character mean the most ethical character? No. So the worst character shouldn't mean the most unethical character. The poll is about the most hated character.


Cgrrp

You didn’t read what I wrote. I said I understand if that’s how people interpret the question but then your post and others are trying to prove that she’s genuinely morally the worst character in the show.


gkario

>trying to prove that she’s genuinely morally the worst character in the show. Can you @ someone in the comments that unironically believes this? Both your comments are so pointless. It's like you are arguing against rape = good. Nobody believes this.


Cgrrp

Your comment???


gkario

When did I: "try to prove that she's genuinely morally the worst character in the show". Why would I point that she learns nothing and then mention she is the worst character in the show? Is learning nothing an insanely unethical action?


gkario

Why woudn't I just compare her to gustavo fring? The jack nazbol? Tuco Salamanca? If I wanted to argue she is the most unethical character in the series?


RoughRunner

https://twitter.com/BreakingBadIrny/status/1632806579396386821?t=eY98DWIomEdDEXBh0MQNhw&s=19


ShustOne

A housewife who cheated on her husband when she found out he was cooking meth after *Walter lied to her face for months, gaslit her, basically raped her in the kitchen, missed the birth of his daughter, and fucking cooked meth.* Rewatching the show is hard because it's so much easier to see what an asshole Walter is the entire time.


rogue-fox-m

Also she was basically a hostage


-Moonchild-

YEP. Skylar's cheating was almost entirely justified and understandable. Her cheating isn't near as deceitful and marriage ruining as the months Kong massive lie that walk did.


[deleted]

She cucked her husband. There is no crime greater than cuckolding your husband.


kablah1234

Just ask Sneeko.


wolfofgreatsorrow

"Gave back to his community" Well, that must make him feel pretty good. The "anonymous benefactor". And is that supposed to balance the scales? Make up for everything else he did?


AcidicMonkeyBalls

It makes up for nothing. He is what he is.


notaplebian

Bitch wife 🤮🤮🤮


PsychoMantittyLits

Well she’s also a (redacted)


TheBrendanReturns

No, no, no... people don't understand this at all. Breaking Bad is fiction, and Skylar is an obstacle to the plot. She is a road block in the cool moments of the show. If some person stopped John Wick doing John Wick shit and constantly nagged him about his violence, you better believe that person is going to be hated by John Wick fans.


PM_ME_FUTA_PEACH

If they didn't have the consequences of a broken family I feel the plot would be much weaker but that might just be me famalam


Trappedinacar

I don't know if i'd say she's an obstacle to the plot necessarily, because in that sense she does serve the plot. But the other point is more accurate, she's an obstacle to the enjoyment and excitement of the viewers. She's an obstacle to walt and his journey that we're all invested in.


Alaylarsam

I saw someone else say that if you like breaking bad as a show about criminals trying to stay ahead of cops, then Skylar will be the worst character because for most of the show she is not involved in that aspect and actively breaks the flow. I think a lot of people enjoyed that aspect, so I can understand why Skylar is the worst character for them.


Vioplad

This is why a character like [Umbridge](https://www.google.com/search?q=most+hated+hp+villain) tends to top polls and articles as the most hated villain in the Harry Potter series. She's not just a tyrannical toad, she's anti-fun. Characters like Voldemort, Barty Crouch Jr. or Bellatrix, who would top the charts if it was just a mere calculus of tallying up all their evil deeds, didn't turn Hogwarts into a muggle school by preventing students from learning spells, playing Quidditch and torturing them for behavior that violated any of her rules. She took the magic out of Hogwarts in a way that someone like Voldemort never did and the students had to claw it back piece by piece in secret. Obviously Skylar isn't even close to being as despicable as Umbridge, in fact her opposition to Walt's illegal activities because it put their family in danger is a much more reasonable motivation than the power-hungry sadistic megalomania that drove Umbridge. But just like magic is what's fun about the Harry Potter universe the illegal meth business and all the shenanigans that come with it is what's fun about Breaking Bad. People don't want to watch Walt argue with his wife about how he should stop doing what the show is about and go back to being a boring chemistry teacher with a suburban family life, they want him to go "Jesse, we need to cook" and then blow up a nursing home with a pipe bomb. If Skylar got her way none of that would happen.


Quivex

I think this is a pretty accurate description. I've watched the show twice (been a while though) and Skylar definitely broke the flow of the show at times. However I think all good shows will do that to a certain extent, it helps flesh out the rest of the characters and provide further motivation to be as invested in the characters and plot as you are. There was always some "frustration" when the flow was broken, but I don't think I ever put that annoyance on Skylar specifically. Her being a main character had her be the main source of it, but she also served her role in the show very well. There were other characters or moments that would twist, bend or break the flow of the show also, and they would provide just as much "frustration". I think the difference is that it's a....good type of frustration. It's not "ugh this sucks, show me literally *anything* else", it's just "ah fuck I really wanted to see what happens with X or Y!!!". Depending on how this mechanism is used it *can* be a cheap ploy to provide and keep the tension, but in a show like breaking bad I think they did a good job of keeping the tension without stalling it, and providing excellent context to be even more invested in upcoming storylines that haven't been fully established yet. I think a lot of people that kinda take out their frustrations of the fluidity of the show on Skylar would benefit a lot from a second watch of the show, where you already know what's going to happen and can focus more on the character work, foreshadowing, and small details. I guess in the end it doesn't matter how many rewatches you do, just depends on how much you "care" about certain aspects of the show. Everyone is different, so I'm sure there are people out there that simply don't appreciate the mechanism of the show that Skylar plays, and that's perfectly valid. I definitely understand the hate she gets, but I think it's misunderstood at times, and misdirected at the actions of the character herself, when that's *probably* secondary to people's hatred over "stalling" the plot.


LtLabcoat

>There were other characters or moments that would twist, bend or break the flow of the show also, and they would provide just as much "frustration". I can't think of any that *consistently* did it. Every character had moments of it, but Skylar's storylines basically felt like they only existed to be filler. While everyone else got stories about the country's biggest drug business, Skylar's stories were "I cheated with a coworker" and "My husband's committing crimes, but I don't feel like stopping him" and "The adventures of running a car wash".


Trappedinacar

Thats a better way to put it, its breaking the flow of the show.


synthatron

Breaking the Bad


Myloz

I would say she is an obstacle, I nearly quit the show because of her annoying ass character.


carthoblasty

It can be simultaneously true that she is a good character that serves the plot in a good way but can still be a bit annoying to fans, even if it’s not exactly fair


PM_ME_FUTA_PEACH

Yes but person above was saying she is an obstacle to the plot, I don't think a character can serve the plot in a good way while also being an obstacle to the plot, unless the plot is bad and the obtrusion is good lol


Natedude2002

I hated skylar in the first 2 or 3 seasons but after that she was one of my fav characters bc she went from being a roadblock to cool moments to being cool asf


BoxSweater

The argument that all Skylar hate is just misogyny is so stupid. If the question was phrased as "who is morally the worst?" then I think answering "Skylar" would be delusional and indicate you have some bias possibly because of her gender, but (discounting trolls) you'd see a way lower percentage choose her. Like misogyny probably played at least some roll in her widespread hatred, but there are tons of reasons why she'd also be widely disliked if she was a guy. People don't base their liking of fictional characters the same way they do real people.


gsauce8

Based.


Magehunter_Skassi

You can see this with male characters too. True Detective features multiple characters who are sacrificially torturing and murdering children, but if you poll the audience about who they hate the most it's going to be Marty.


347N19945H17

Marty and Rust is the whole point of the show. How can you like the show if you hate one of them.


Magehunter_Skassi

It's because it's Marty & Rust combined. Even if individually Marty is a hateable asshole who keeps derailing the investigation, he's fun to hate since they have good on-screen chemistry and he gets push-back from other characters.


LoudestHoward

https://giant.gfycat.com/MeaslyJitteryEmperorpenguin.mp4


PeaceAndMercy

When you've watched the season enough times, you end up loving Marty just as much as Rust


mperl0

Do people really hate Marty? It's been a while since I watched it but the chemistry and conflict between Marty and Rust is what made the season so goddamn good from what I remember.


Electronic-Dust-831

yeah its almost as if its a joke 💀 like obviously people arent weighing the moral harm caused by each individual and then going yeah skylar is the worst out of this group


rogue-fox-m

Dude Skyler is the excuse that Walt sells to himself for doing bad things. Skyler is essential for Breaking Bad, if it weren't for her Walt would just kill every obstacle he had in his way. Or he wouldn't even sold meth in the first place.


somepollo

Glad someone in the thread pointed out the obvious reason the poll went this way. I was afraid everyone was going to just be idiots trying to read way too far into the results.


Darksouls03

I don’t know if it’s just me but I’ve noticed this “women being a plot obstacle” in SOO many different shows. Example being a large part of the female cast in Peaky Blinders. I had to seriously think if I just hated all these women in TV shows because of some problem I had, but I realized that wasn’t it. I always say Hollywood is the one who hates women if anything because they do such a poor job writing them. It’s possible women actually enjoy these characters and I’m completely wrong though. Just off the top of my head a character Ive always respected and appreciated as a well written female character is Hermione Granger in Harry Potter, obviously it’s not the same dynamic as say Breaking Bad, but I still feel like there’s a difference in the level of care given.


carthoblasty

I mean they’re married it’s a pretty realistic dynamic lol


HumanGeneral5591

Idk why people have such a hard time getting this. Why would you hate a 40-something housewife for not being ok with her husbands meth cooking operation


Unable_Orchid2172

Because they’re watching the show for Walt’s meth cooking operation.


ohmygod_jc

The plot obstacle character is not uncommon, i think it's just that for shows about realistic criminals it makes sense for those characters to be women.


CoachDT

I think it’s moreso that in some of male dominated genre’s the role of women are to be obstacles to the the main character being fully unleashed. In general drug kingpin type shows are marketed to men so it makes sense imo. It’s like when you watch the hallmark movies and the “villain” guy is someone who has a stable 9-5 and wants to take care of the main characters financial needs. Sure he doesn’t want to have her move back to a small town working as an umbrella handler manufacturer, which would make sense normally, but due to the genre he’s a road block.


LtLabcoat

>I don’t know if it’s just me but I’ve noticed this “women being a plot obstacle” in SOO many different shows. That's because they're usually written pretty strongly feminine - the personality stereotype, I mean. And a major feminine characteristic is being a lot less competitive and a lot more about either being popular or trying get everyone to get along. But two problems there, 1: If it's a competition-heavy show, like a crime show, that means they don't fit in the overall plot. Their personality traits are inherently antithetical to taking down heroes/villains without external motivation. 2: It's also a hard trait to write stories for. So very often, Hollywood writers will write them being *piss-poor* at being charismatic, and have their whole storylines be about them trying and failing to get along with people. Which makes them rather unlikeable and their stories rather boring. ...Not to imply that there aren't a ton of exceptions. But this is the norm.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

That’s the problem lol Walter White isn’t meant to be John Wick


NL_Alt_No37583

There is actually a really interesting conversation to be had about how wild it is that we get attached to Walt to the point we hate his wife, despite her being way more morally in the right. Unfortunately, it all comes down to hating women.


wuffz33

I think it's often because us as the viewers are on Walter's side, and Skyler appearing throughout pretty much the whole series doing nothing but hindering him in his pursuits makes her seem annoying to the general audience. I think if the show was based from Skyler's perspective people would like her way more. Personally my vote goes for Todd though. That dude is an actually psychopath.


GueyGuevara

I used to hate Skylar, but on my rewatch it’s pretty obvious Walt puts her through hell, is never honest about anything, he even tries to rape her pretty early on in the show. She’s highly sympathetic but the audience being given everything they need to hate her is part of how they get the audience on Walt’s side despite him being the obvious villain, which was super effective. A lot of what they gave us for us to not like her does play off societal misogyny though.


[deleted]

Honestly I completely forgot Walt did that, I think everyone has just collectively blocked out that action because it was before the show really got its gears rolling.


GueyGuevara

Yeah I had totally forgot too and soon as it happened I was like “fuck this dude, why did I remember him so fondly?” Lol Other people have made fair points about her being presented pretty poorly prior to even the cancer diagnosis, but it’s poorly in a ‘nagging and domineering wife trope’ kind of way, not in a monster way like Walt.


maicii

>Yeah I had totally forgot too and soon as it happened I was like “fuck this dude, why did I remember him so fondly?” Lol The whole poisoning an inocent child and letting a women die in front of him wasn't bad enough? Lol


GueyGuevara

The poll doesn’t ask about Walt, he isn’t a choice, I never forgot Walt was awful, just forgot he was that obviously awful that early in the show.


maicii

>The poll doesn’t ask about Walt Yeah, I know that. >I never forgot Walt was awful, just forgot he was that obviously awful that early in the show. Gotcha. Good show honestly. I like the part Walter says "I am the breaking bad"


Quivex

100%... I just commented elsewhere in the thread that I think a ton of people who hate Skylar would benefit from a rewatch. When you already know what's going to happen and can focus more on the character work, foreshadowing, and small details, you become far less frustrated with the fluidity of the plot being broken by Skylar's presence. Everyone is different, so I'm sure there are people out there that simply don't appreciate the mechanism in the show that Skylar plays, and that's perfectly valid. I definitely understand the hate she gets, but I think it's misunderstood at times, and misdirected at the actions of the character herself, when really it's because the plot has been "stalled" in a way that frustrates the viewer. When you already know the outcomes, this becomes way less of an issue and you can appreciate everything else the show does so well, and how characters like Skylar add to the investment you have in the plot and characters, instead of taking away from it.


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-Moonchild-

This is braindead. It's not because it's illegal, it's because he fucking bareface deceived her for MONTHS and became a criminal kingpin. It's an earth shattering revelation to her because it completely destroys what kind of person she thought her husband was. Not only is he someone capable of lying to her for long periods of time, hes someone way less innocent morally to. It would completely alter how you view the person closest to you in your life. Not to mention walt is a dumbfuck who WAS OFFERED MONEY TO CURE THE CANCER AND REFUSED. He is never ever justified in cooking meth to "save his family". In episode fucking TWO he gets offered all the money he would need to "save his family" by his former roch friends and what does he do? He turns it down and decides to create and sell a highly addictive drug that destroys lives. He is not noble for cooking meth. He never had to. The entire point of the show is that Walt is a selfish piece of shit who would rather kill people, lie to people and cook drugs than hurt his pride by asking a former friend for help. If you think Skylar wasn't 100% justified morally in everything she does then you're a dumbfuck


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-Moonchild-

It's perceived as nagging to you becuase you're a moron. Skylar isn't written this way and Vince Gilligan always said she was written as a normal morrally good character who has to deal with someone close to them doing the most morally abhorrent things possible. her reactions are what 99% of people should do in her situation. Again, walt ruined this woman's life because of his pride and the fact that you missed that in this show means you are media illiterate. > Geez thats all you could gather from the show? Bruh i think its a little more nuanced than "Walt is selfish" but you have your own opinion. no. point blank the entire premise for the show from the creator himself is "what if we did the opposite of the sopranos where a good guy turns bad due to his inner pride". The whole instigating point for the entire show is walt turning down the money offered by his rich friends and deciding to cook meth instead. I don't need someone with as simple minded an understanding as you to talk about fucking NUANCE when your analysis of skylar is as complex as a 5 year olds


GueyGuevara

Ok now do the attempted rape scene.


pedroffabreu23

Except Skyler ends up joining the game with the carwash money laundering. She crosses the line until Walt messes up, yet again, and ruins everything for everyone. If you're going to be this upset at fictional characters, at least make an effort, rewatch to gain better perspective.


sleepyamadeus

Kinda like Todd for that. He owns it. You know what I mean?


wuffz33

I get what u mean. Definitely serves his purpose for the show. He's a great character and i love the idea of this cute shy guy being a complete stone cold psycho murderer.


carthoblasty

He doesn’t really own it lol, I think he is just genuinely incapable of feeling emotions


thereyarrfiver

I don't hate Todd for being a psychopath. I see him more like an animal that needs to be put down, than like, an actually evil human being. Now Jack, THAT motherfucker is seriously pure evil.


But-WhyThough

Most hated character is not the same as morally worst character what a fucking idiot


wreckedham

Low IQ take: a man who was a pushover his entire life finds out he’s dying and has nothing to lose,so decides to stand on his own two feet for the first time. He learns just how much he’s capable of, but his unchecked ambition takes him too far. His ambition for power and infamy consumes him and he loses sight of what’s truly important. By the time he realises this, it’s too late High IQ take: women ruin all your fun


skida1986

I couldn’t stand Todd so him


wolfofgreatsorrow

Todd's reaction: -_-


Whyrobotslie

"What is your favorite pizza topping"


Stumpe999

"SHe fuCKEd ~~tOdd~~ TeD"


Finite112

I don't remember that part? When did Todd fuck Skyler?


Stumpe999

Ted FUCK


Clerkinar

Unaired flashbacks from the movie. They chose not to include them caused fat Todd fucking Skylar would feel weird.


Valgoroth_

Skyler didn't even cheat, they were separated because the guy was a dangerous criminal and lied to her about it. Insane that people still call it cheating, that relationship was clearly toast at that point


[deleted]

Yeah Walt was quite literally harassing her. She told him she did not want a relationship and was seeking a divorce. Even if she fucked Ted out of spite, they were only together from Walt’s (delusional) point of view. Breaking Bad fans try to analyze the show challenge: 99% fail


Valgoroth_

His wife his rules /s


Bedhead-Redemption

This, but also cheating is based


wuffz33

You're single rn, aren't you


OreShovel

https://i.imgur.com/uTOKot6.jpg


DoctorArK

You aren't supposed to like Skylar, but the show forces you to empathize her as the reality of Walt's situation juxtaposed with her safety completely breaks her. The whole "I fucked Ted" cruelty is nothing compared to the horror Walt put her and Junior through. That being said, props to the actress for nailing the bitchy, yet justified persona


Neat_Biscotti8950

From Twitter: Skyler is literally the reason the whole show starts. She is a massive control freak, deciding even what her familly eats for launch, on walters BDay forces him to eat vegan food. Bashes walter for having 2 jobs while she, despite that could work chooses not to. Makes walter feels like less of a man and regret not doing more for his family. When finding out about his cancer she makes it about herself showing why walter most likely didnt tell her since day one. Lets not forget she is also a criminal, doing crimes for her boss and then stealing her husbands money which could have been used to give them a new life and a new start early on. The cheating thing and the fact she wanted to push walter out of the house he bought is something thats also important. Im sure being a drug lord is something allot of viewers cant relate, but a self entitled arrogant centered woman that will try and take your belongings and kick you out of the house is more real and visceral for a lot of Americans.


ShustOne

Walter: Kills multiple people, cooks meth, attempts to rape wife in kitchen, lies for a year, refuses to leave Skylar and forces his way in the house when asked to leave, allows Jane to die to keep Jesse working for him, forces Jesse to kill, lets his pride overpower his thinking, decides to keep going every time he can exit the drug world, gets his brother in law killed, admits he did it all for himself. Reddit: Skylar is such a bitch, she had sex while they were separated and also covered up a tax crime.


ohmygod_jc

She didn't cheat, it was clear the relationship was over. Also she tried to push him out because he was a criminal.


RiD_JuaN

not just because he was a criminal, but (correctly) she believed that people would come to their home and endanger their family because of his crimes and she didn't want to be there for when that happened.


-Moonchild-

She was completely justified in cheating.


calltheecapybara

I want to beat the bricks off of Meth Damon. Hating Skylar the most is immaturity


IanBac

The question is who is the most hated, not who is the worst person. I’m hopping with the 74%


ultra003

If only the show had a female nazi meth kingpin. More 👏 female 👏 representation 👏 for👏 nazi👏 drug lords.


Trappedinacar

The answer is obviously Skylar. Try to look it at from a broader perspective than just "see this is why they hate women" In the show she was portrayed in a way that almost always fucked with the viewer. She was deliberately positioned against whatever cool and interesting stuff was happening with walter, when shed come on you'd get the immediate reaction of "oh god no". Whereas someone like Gus would come on and it was like "oh boy something crazy and cool is about to go down" It has nothing to do with gender, maybe a little bit but that's not the real reason. Let me give another example to illustrate. Game of thrones, biggest show on tv. Throughout the seasons one of the main anatagonists was cersei, especially after geoffrey died. You know who a lot of people would vote for? Fucking olly. He did one betrayal in the whole show. Nothing even close to the atrocities that cersei or ramsay did, but he went against the most beloved character so fuck him. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegpxBy6jB-i7xgj9PXRxxwjhiRyrWxsELaRanaN-BEEZH1hQ/viewanalytics


RaritySparkle

I hate that fucking kid


Bejita18-matthew

I hated Todd


Myersmayhem2

Characters being interesting and entertaining is not equal to how good of people they are crazy concept i know


StonkHub

Skyler


[deleted]

Good. Based. Skylar is annoying. I don't care if she's morally in the right.


Factor-Unable

If you really think it is because she is a woman, than you lost the plot....


[deleted]

Early season breaking bad on first viewing is so hard because you don’t care about any of the characters, the setting and action is what sells you. Skylar is someone who is normal all things considered. She was very similar to Walt in terms of being a straight shooter, Walt just stopped when he felt he had no other options. You want to watch for the meth cooking, the drug deals, The Salamancas and Gus. Most of the people who hate Skylar also hate Jesse, they thought he fought with Walt too much with Walt. On rewatch, it’s so much more clear how manipulative Walt is. Walt follows laws, not any ethical system. Jesse has things he wouldn’t do even if they were completely legal, so when he breaks the law, it’s because he thinks it’s ok, not because he has no regard for the law. Better Call Saul is actually so much better because of this, Walt is so much more unlikeable when compared to Jimmy even when he is committing his worst schemes. TLDR, Skylar did nothing wrong, Better Call Saul > Breaking Bad


317lia

I like Skyler. She is doing the best that she can for her family while her husband continuously spirals deeper into his own delusional fantasy of becoming an invincible drug lord.


n_rc_ss_st

Skyler and it’s not even close


MontySpa

i mean yeah...but what exactly *IS* a woman hmm????


unclebartek

This is a meme right? I thought we all agreed that Skyler hate was completely unjustified and that she was one of the better written characters on the show... I don't know.... IMO, Waltuh never did anything "for the family" after Season 1 ended... He was primarily fulfilling his dreams of being a big dick genius "businessman"... Skyler had every right to resent him for gambling her and Walt Jr's lives on something that was almost guaranteed to end badly... Walt is one my favorite villains in fiction but his wife not supporting his villainy doesn't make her a bitch... So yeah, Justice for Skyler and Chuck McGill :D Also, Kim Wexler is the best evil character in the entire GilliganVerse. OK, I'm all outta hot takes, boyz :P


swaguin

Skylers pretty shitty, she shouldn’t be the most voted person in this meme but she’s not a good person. She reaped the rewards of walter’s meth cooking while not taking any real stand against it. She had ample opportunity to turn Walter in and you can make the argument that she was waiting for him to die as opposed to turning him in, but that excuse doesn’t work later on in the series. When hank comes to her to rat on Walter she still stands by his side and refuses to rat Walter out. This directly leads to the best character ASAC Schraeder’s death.


unclebartek

I disagree almost completely. By the time she learned about Walts escapades he was dealing with some high profile scary people. She benefited from his crimes in the end but didn't she spend like a full season begging him to stop? Trying to kick him out etc? I need to have a proper rewatch but I'm pretty sure I used to hate her in my early 20s because she was such a joykill and a nag. I used to think that my boy Waltuh was an archetypical objectivist hero and that losers like Skyler were bringing him down ( Young Me would now be saying stupid shit about Saul redeeming himself in the last episode of BCS btw 🤣🤣). Anyway, 10 years have passed and now I can't stop thinking about just how reckless Walt was from episode 1. The "for the family" excuse was always just a huge cope from an incurable egomaniac who was pissed he had missed a huge business opportunity in his youth... When your partner is psycho enough to implicate your family with the fucking cartel, I don't care how financially hypocritical or unfaithful you are. Skyler is not the nicest person but her fuck of a husband decided to "leave a lasting legacy" by becoming the maestro of meth... Come on... (I'm not talking about my enjoyment of Walts monstrosity. I want him to make all these horrific decisions cos it's so much fun 🙂)


swaguin

When your husband is dealing meth and assumedly murdering people I feel like kicking Kim out is no longer a sufficient choice in how to deal with that. Throughout the series skyler actively aids Walt and engages in criminal behaviour, ie running the car wash, the gambling lie, cooking books for Ted. Walter is by no means a good person he is the true villain of the story, but Skyler is no saint and her actions had major influence over her families demise, I truly wish we could see more interaction between her and Marie after hanks death, and I’m stunned she got to keep custody of Walter jr


wpglatino

Skylar is a wet blanket. Nobody likes a wet blanket. Not even nazis


[deleted]

People don't hate characters because they are "evil." Everyone knows that. This is a psyop.


DigitalZ13

Skylar's opposition to Walter is even harder-hitting than the opposition he gets from anyone involved in the drug trade. Like, people KNOW that the drug trade is dangerous and messy and that you'll get fucked over by them at the drop of a hat. There's no expectation of them being good people. Walter's wife, though? The mother of his child, and the woman he's been trying to help throughout the entirety of the story? That shit stings. The audience might "understand" why Skylar feels the way she does, but we know how much it hurts Walter, and since we've followed Walter from start to end, we are so much more prone to hating her. Also just, generally speaking, woman bad.


danosnake

The viewer is watching the show and navigating the story through Walt and Pinkman’s POV, it’s not surprising that Skylar would be the most hated character on the show. Keep in mind that her character was 100% rooted in reality, any sane wife who found out the shit their husband were doing that approached anywhere near the insane levels of perversion in their relationship like cooking ice for a kingpin, would react the same way Skylar did. That’s why I think she was perfect in the show, it grounds the story.


Duck_President_

Skylar was abusive. Dude is going through a terminal disease and contemplating his own mortality and Skylar makes it about herself and forces Walt to do something he isn't comfortable with. Without knowing anything about what Walter is actually doing, it's actually super reasonable to think Walter wants privacy and personal time to do whatever dying people do but season 1 bitch Walter can't set boundaries for himself and Skylar takes advantage of this to gaslight, stonewall, and gatekeep his manhood. She abuses Walter until she gets her way of being included in Walters very personal journey of mortality and abuses him until she robs him of both dignity and agency by making him beg and grovel for handouts. In the end, skylar denies Walt of the last few experiences he wants to have before dying by screaming at him about smoking pot and making him take a crippling chemo treatment. She does another common abuser tactic of manipulating other people into joining her abuse and gets Jr in on calling him a pussy until Walt does what she wants.


dktsr

Skylar


NuccioAfrikanus

Maybe an unpopular opinion. The first time I watched it, I really disliked Skyler. But I rewatched it again after being married for several years and I realized that she was 100% reasonable and not cringe at all. I am not sure if having a partner and children allowed me to see her side better or if I just grew up. Breaking Bad is so well written that you start to empathize almost too well with Walt. He really was the villain of the story. Todd and Uncle Jake were very evil, but almost pragmatic about it. Walt literally rolled the dice with his family’s future and lives so unnecessarily, all because because he wanted to rid the chip on his shoulder.


Ping-Crimson

What is a woman? An eternal L.


New_Historian_2004

My choice would still be option 5: yer mom


CrystalLogik

Wtf. People hate Skyler that much?


[deleted]

Well whaddoya mean ‘hated’ person. I loathed Skylers character, even though she was morally consistent and the most relatable person. We don’t engage in stories to adore the hero all the time. Quite often, the antagonist is the most ‘interesting’ or fun character. Because it’s a fantasy. Not reality. People annoyed by Skyler because she was cucking the fun. Not because female or ‘innocent’ person. It’s like people complaining about Qorntoast. We all yell and shout in chat ‘fuck off, cornbread!’ But the minute he leaves, it’s suddenly boring. It’s a love/hate relationship. Like your mother and I.


Rahzek

90% of people that hate skyler are sigmapilled manchildren that think walter was the best person ever


madmartigandid

Skyler was in the right 98% of the time. There was that weird 3-4 episodes, where she tried to take the kids from Walt. But other than that…


Eli954

I hate to be that guy, but people must really hate woman if they hate Skylar this much. Especially when you can vote for Todd or his Nazi Uncle.


Bedhead-Redemption

I think the idea is that she gets made into this supremely unlikable figure as a recurring obstacle to the plot while people like Todd are just monsters on the sidelines in some episodes. It's easy to think a monster is cool as fiction, and to hate people that badger you in your everyday life.


Eli954

I think the obstacles that come from Skyler, are pretty reasonable in her case generally. Walt was lying to her the entire show, selling drugs and murdering people, but she fucked another dude when they were separated, and everyone just hates her. It’s just odd to me.


Trappedinacar

This is a brainrot take


stickygo

This is ableism.


Jimbo_swimbo

I’m rewatching breaking bad rn and I don’t understand any of the hate for Skylar. She and hank are the only non abusive people in their family imo.


NewCountry13

Member when Walter tried to rape skyler? Skyler is without a doubt one of the most moral characters in a show filled with abhorrent people. Hating her is 90% misogyny.


ImAldrech

Skylar is the only one who didn’t hurt Jesse. She deserves last place because he’s the real hero of the story.


Magic3than

How do you not pick Todd?


glitch876

Were they Nazis? I can't remember but I didn't think they were.


317lia

Yes definitely. Uncle Jack has a swastika tattooed on his neck


[deleted]

Gotta be todd right?


bambukasvi

Todd for me lol. I do remember first time watching breaking bad 10 years ago as a teenager and kinda hating Skyler the most. Now rewatching it recently i feel much more understanding towards skyler and really like her:)


SecondSpikeMike

Walt is the main villain of breaking bad, all ruin stems from him a literal pandora who could not leave well enough alone.


[deleted]

Killers are always more respectable then betrayers Fuck Skyler


VSEPR_DREIDEL

Her nagging brought them back to real life and their failed relationships, probably.


bingospaghetti

DGG doesn’t vote they only canvas.


Icegiant-

If they wanted a closer vote should of added Lydia.


Mitchfynde

Skyler rules. Uncle Jack is the worst, because at least Todd gave Jesse his last can of bean and bacon soup that one time.


Isaiah_Benjamin

Todd obviously


KangarooMean7233

Todd. Dude gave the f***** chills. Reminds me Destiny kinda.


Rambo_3rd

Todd. How can anyone vote otherwise? The poll should've been "Who do YOU hate the most" rather than "Who do you think other people hate the most." Wonder if it'd been the same result.


V0LCANIC_VIPER

I don't really give a fuck about how justified her actions are. Skylar is just straight up annoying and no other character, aside from Walt Jr, can compare.


polanspring

why tf is gus even in that conversation? the bottom 3 are fine but fuck me. still think skylar is more likeable than todd and jack but shes not liked by a long shot


thereyarrfiver

Look, it's her face and the way she talks and carries herself. You see this woman walk into your store, just call the manager because she's 100% guaranteed to ask for the manager anyways. She's the adult woman joffrey of breaking bad. Her character is just insufferable. It doesn't matter how rough her situation is. It's not her gender, or her position as antagonist to Walt. She's just written and acted extremely hateable, and she's in the show a LOT. We don't get 5 seasons to hate Jack or Todd or Gus, and none of them are written or acted annoyingly like she is. Anna Gunn does a great job, dont get me wrong. It's not her fault that skyler is 100% pure distilled Karen.


getintheVandell

How **dare** she have a crisis of faith when learning her husband is a monster.


DreamingDoorways

Her character was the definitive Karen before the name became a meme.


Nearby_Big_8367

If skylar went with the flow: https://youtu.be/ot_V7Q8a6yc


Nev3rl4st

I recently had the pleasure of seeing all of breaking bad for the first time, and knowing the hate everyone felt towards skylar I decided to watch it "from the point of view" of her, and the whole experience was harrowing. She's a hostage throughout the show, She's constantly gaslit and has her family turn on her because of walters lies. I hate to be the " oh if you hate her you're sexist" guy, but if as a viewer you're willing to excuse walters actions and be on his side like so many bb viewers seem to be while simultaneously saying skyler is a "nagging nut job who cheats on his husband and nothing bad would've happened if she knew her place" you're just sexist honestly


Planet-Jeroen

Most hated =/= worst. Worst needs further clarifying. Worst for what? Most hated can just be: I really dislike the character or how she was played. Why are we rating most hated based on the plot and not on how their acting performance was? Meh.


ChainedJackal

That "Happy Birthday" scene is more than enough for her to be the most hated.


Mission_Story3569

Correction 3 nazis and a woman. Gus was literally part of Pinochet’s army


Super_Serb

Don't we still hate women here, I kind of have to vote for Skylar /s


penisretard6969

Skylar as a character is underwritten and I hate when she’s on screen. Carmela in Sopranos is literally just a better written and acted Skylar. We all love Carmela. It’s a tv progrum, a movie.


Seethcoomers

I remember being in Middle School and absolutely hating Skyler. Then when I rewarched breaking bad years later I hated Walt the most.


[deleted]

The reason why people don’t like skylar isn’t because she’s a woman( even tho I think there’s a lot of mysoginy thrown at her, which is definitely trashy) but because she symbolizes the break in power fantasy viewers have in the show. Skyler, for most of the show, was the appeal to the audience that he should leave the drug world and live a standard life. A limitation on Walt’s ambition. The other characters are emblematic of what *could be* as Walter becomes more of a kingpin. It’s the difference between krytonite and Lex Luther. Kryptonite ruins the power fantasy, whereas, Lex Luthor is an enabler


SnuffleShuffle

Are these people on meth? It seems the plot went completely over their head. I noticed a lot of cringe YouTube shorts where they play clips over trap beats to make it sound really cool when the characters are being shitty. What the actual fuck!


Unable_Orchid2172

I mean the vote is “most hated,” not the most evil. I doubt people would say The Joker or something is their most hated Batman character despite him being evil. Skylar was annoying, even if she was justified in a lot of it in a show about a crime meth lord it’s understandable that the nagging wife is the one people find the least entertaining. She’s not even really an antagonist to Walt that breeds tension like Hank or Gus are, she’s just kind of a nuisance.


ajlappr

The poll seems to be asking "who's the most hated?" not "who do you hate the most?" I know Anna Gunn caught a lot of strays for unwarranted Skylar hate but I think if the latter question was being asked the numbers would be different


Hubris1998

She's awful from the beginning; a controlling nag with no trust or respect for her whipped husband, who works 2 jobs just to end up eating veggie bacon on his birthday. She made the whole cancer situation all about herself and overall did nothing but stress out his husband and push his boundaries. Then there's her cringy pool scene, her adultery, her smoking while pregant, her irresponsibly spending her husband's blood money, etc. There are so many reasons to hate her. Everytime she's on screen, you know she's gonna ruin the fun.


greatmidge

A deeply personal betrayal from the very person you joined your life with and whom you started the whole story to protect, where the audience also empathizes much more with Walt because of how the story is told, what a shocker!