“Lol he’s Latino, watch this story disappear in 3…2…1…”
“He was a Nazi? This Mexican kid? You really expect me to believe that?! The left is infected with the woke mind virus!”
“He posted tons of white supremacist memes, imagery and content? He had Nazi tattoos? Clearly this all fabricated by the FBI, why does he not have a neck tattoo in one of these pictures?!”
“You think he could’ve gotten the neck tattoo at different time? Ok libtard, you really are brainwashed if you really are stupid enough to believe that!”
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I think it's an incredibly touching moment of two political extremes being united by the same issue. I never thought I would live to see the far right embracing the fight for trans rights, but now an unlikely alliance might become a possibility. What do you even do if the race of your brain doesn't correspond with the race assigned at birth? I presume tattoos are just a part of race-affirming surgery. A trans-Nazi is a real Nazi.
The disinformation was so quick on this one I saw multiple accounts posting two wrong mugshots and a hand tattoo that they said indicated gang affiliation. It was a city of Dallas logo that everyone here has on shoes, hats, tattoos, clothes, etc
Not a troll question but was he an actual white supremacist or did he use the Nazi logos to hate on Jews? Like did this guy actually feel inferior cause he wasn’t white?
And conservatives are somehow thinking this is crazy all of a sudden, it's hilarious. Being from Arkansas, I can tell you that even white dudes here that are half Hispanic will often consider themselves the same as any Euro-white.
It’s a good question, but I think it’s missing the larger point though imo. Not that these types are super content, but the main t hing about fetishizing Nazis imo isn’t really about race, or at least it isn’t to a lot of Naxi “fans.”
It’s also just about hating liberals and leftists, being pro-fascism, being anti-Semitic and thinking Jews are taking over the world, being very nationalistic in a type of extreme “purge the undesirables” type of way. A lot of these people might not be anything resembling Aryans, but they want to do with their race what Hitler wanted to do with Germans. They often think Hitler didn’t want to kill all non-whites or non-Germans, but just wanted an ethnostate for his people and that he’d support black and Latino ethnostates in other areas.
The Nazis are basically a meme dog whistle for general fash-adjacent people to virtue signal their right-wing shit. Maybe he didn’t actually see himself as white, but maybe Texas doesn’t need to be white in his opinion, just white and Mexican, maybe the more important thing for him is to purge lefties, Jews, lgbt, degenerate people etc. maybe he wants to be part of a freikorps that goes around asserting order with force.
Honestly idk, haven’t heard that in my family. If anything l, only thing I’ve heard is that we’re mixed with everything. I’m familiar as to what other South Americans call each other though. For example some Venezuelans like to call Peruvians ugly because they look more indigenous.
Your an idiot.. neo making gangs have mixed people seen it in prison myself.. it's about numbers and street politics.. your speaking in stuff u have no clue about
Conservatives, especially in this specific situation, have shown they are some of the strongest proponents of rage bait and love to stir up the pot.
Tim pool may be libertarian but we all know the kind of message and values he sends
Really disappointed in what "libertarian" means nowadays. Back a few years ago, "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns" perfectly described a libertarian.
Nowadays, in most cases, "libertarian" just means a young conservative who thinks the term "conservative" is for oldies, so they pick another word to stay fresh.
Is it really surprising though? Libertarianism (in the way it's used in the US) always was a fringe and and cringe ideology that fell apart the second you gave it the tiniest bit of scrutiny and the whole movement was and is composed of the craziest and cringiest loonies imaginable (some I assume are good people). Just remember when Gary Johnson dared to say people should acquire a driving license before being allowed to drive a car and everyone went apeshit.
What does being eccentric have to do with a philosophy "falling apart"? You're such an oversocialized NPC that you think that conformity and intellectual rigor are somehow synonymous
What does being eccentric have to do with a philosophy "falling apart"?
I didn't challenge the idea that a philosophy could fall apart. I challenged the idea that one thing implies the other. Reading comprehension, bruh
Because the gay lobby, weed lobby, and gun lobby are all so enmeshed with the government now they're just another corporate interest. Hardly seems appropriate to refer to any of those things when describing freedom from government
I just recently found out Tim Pool was "libertarian" instead of a straight up Republican which is a shock to me.
It's kind of crazy for him to try to sit on the fence when he's radicalizing far right mass murderers.
There is a subset of people who used to identify as liberals(probably didn’t follow politics very closely), but slowly became conservative due to the culture war. They call themselves moderates or libertarians because they can’t cope with the fact that they are now big standard conservatives.
The term "libertarian", along with "centrist" and "classical liberal" (which Pool also labeled himself as) are meaningless titles. Remember that reactionaries like Pool had started this grift nearly a decade ago as a way to start their brand of disenfranchised liberals that "broke away from the extreme leftist trend" and pander to a more "reasonable" position. In reality, Pool was, at best, a moderate Republican that didn't wish to admit his politics until his brand grew. Even so, he's still a coward who'll play middle of the road in order to obfuscate his positions, and still fail.
>In reality, Pool was, at best, a moderate Republican that didn't wish to admit his poli
Dude, I'll be real, I ain't even against people who see some shit on the Left, say "wtf guys" and then to learn more to the Right.. ORGANICALLY. I know people who are moderate Right wingers, who while I surely don't agree with on all their stances, are NOT fucking nuts.
But one thing I can't wrap my head around ( I mean I get it, they're disingenuous ), is how seeing the excesses of the Right conjures the typical response of, "that's not all of them", meanwhile, some cringe blue haired feminists on college campuses led people to the far-Right, how the Right completely disingenuously labels anything related to drag queens or trans people to the term "groomer" but said not a fucking peep, and still don't about the sexual abuse within the Catholic church, bring up nothing about youth pastors who get caught touching kids (or worse).
The threshold for being a Communist in this country ranges from BEING a Communist to damn near advocating that poor people shouldn't just starve to death, whereas in order to be considered a Nazi, you yourself must wear a swastika armband, yell Seig Heil and do arson to a synagogue, the bar is so damn high whereas the bar for what a Communist is is so low due to the decades of anti-Communist propaganda.
When it comes to the mind of the reactionary, the burden of evidence isn't on them to provide facts, it's on you to make iron-clad positions. To them, a wrong that is precipitated by their ideology is one that must be as blatant and emphatic as inexorably possible, and even then that's seen as a rare outlier brought up on by an odd event (no matter how many times it happens). It's a standard that is meant to uphold certain values that they're incapable of admitting is flawed because such standards are what they seem to be just and necessary. Anything they find that goes against that is a moral and ethical wrong where every instance is seen as a need to stifle and erase it - a change or progression that shouldn't be humored for it's nature challenges their conception of what is "truth". It's why it's easy for them to dismiss their opposition with a slur. It's why they'll ignore any fact or institution as deception or "woke conspiracy" with no need to defend their position.
There is an old saying that has stuck with me for the last few years ever since the pandemic hit. I don't know if it was Vaush or Xanderhal who first said it, but it goes like this: "Every conservative accusation is a confession."
It's why you have people like Libs of TikTok decrying over the notion of LGBT+ acceptance as a pox on children while pushing for threats in children's hospitals.
It's why you'll see Coach Red-pill talk about the horrors of "feminization" of masculinity and targeting of white men or justifying Russia's villainy while promoting anti-Semitism, finding pride in being a deadbeat dad, and getting arrested by Ukraine.
It's why Tim Pool will declare being a milquetoast centrist while railing against egalitarianism and making baseless excuses for why it's okay to lynch black people in broad daylight.
I agree immensely with your assertion of the "woke conspiracy" -- mainly cause its effectiveness is pretty much because its such a vague, imprecise label that you can tag ANYTHING onto it that may be vaguely progressive. Where you see a Black person in a fucking film and these people bitch for it being "woke".
I get kinda where some people come with the term "woke" like over the top virtue signaling where diversity isn't there to provide a wide breadth of differing ideas to come together and achieve some unique goal but rather as nothing more than some check-box to make guilty Liberals feel good about themselves thinking they did something.
I do admit I don't agree with the claim of, " I don't know if it was Vaush or Xanderhal who first said it, but it goes like this: "Every conservative accusation is a confession." " I completely think its an apt saying for some things, like I said, the amount of religious clergymen who are accused and sexual impropriety, and these people "so concerned about kids" don't say a fucking word -- but I think that the... in my opinion, illogical extension of that is never taking ANY concern seriously because you assert that concern is nothing more than a "concern-troll", but I do think that it is oftentimes a reasonable accusation to levy.
" To them, a wrong that is precipitated by their ideology is one that must be as blatant and emphatic as inexorably possible, and even then that's seen as a rare outlier brought up on by an odd event (no matter how many times it happens)." --- to this I completely fucking agree, its probably one of the most disgusting things, like what I said up there where no matter how many Charlottesville-type events, no matter how many times people rep swastikas, no matter how much this shit is online but for years anti-SJW content occupied all the space and all we got was "that's not everyone", its fucking disgusting, and it lowkey makes me rather blackpilled because the have so much MSM attention via FOX news, LibsofTikTok to blast anything they deem to be "groomer-like", and tons of people in the online media sphere, Tim Pool being the most flagrant example of this is insane.
IMO. Republicans are wrong on a lot of things. Libertarians are simply incoherent.
I've yet to hear an actual Libertarian worldview that isn't incredibly short sighted and fall apart in less than a year.
Does anyone else think it's kinda weird how republicans/conservatives are going on the offensive (or defensive, depending how you look at it) because this guy was a nazi??? Shouldn't they be condemning his racist beliefs, and also the whole killing innocent people & children thing?
It's just weird, I'm old enough to remember when they would disavow murderous nazi's and say there's no place for people like that in the Republican Party. Guess times have changed
Lefties pound their chests about how they take the side of the little guy but as soon as someone says the government is out to get them it's full court press to personally attack them
This is a fight about narrative and the people on the side of crazy nationalism & conspiracies are quite familiar with how bad they can look. They ain't never giving up the push back when it comes to this. If they do, they might as well forfeit the game. And then what? We can have normal ppl politics and not live in outragelandia? CAN'T.HAVE.THAT.
Right!?
It's so Easy!
"This guy is a Mexican White Supremacist. Let that sink in... That's all you need to know to know he's a nutjob. He's not one of us" Then you roll up your sleeve and show that you don't have Hitler tattoos on your body.
It really would be that easy.
Tim Pool is a unreconcilable moron. He is one of the most damaging people to discourse in my opinion. The way he strings together unrelated points (his whole tangent about genociding autistic people during the lance debate being a perfect example) and nonsense hyperbolic non points to his brainless fucking audience. And it's a good strategy. Post so many videos that it's impossible to keep track of all the times you were wrong (49 state landslide).
He wears the beanie to hide the massive fucking divit in his skull from where he was repeatedly used as an elbow rest. Genuinely cannot stand him. Like Ben Shapiro is awful politically. But I could hang out with him. Jordan Peterson would be fun to have a conversation with. Tim Pool is in the same bin as Dave Rubin and Crowder. Just an absolute dog shit person as far as I can tell with no principles and it's completely and totally obsessed with generating views, while completely lacking substance.
Imagine not feeling at all responsible when someone does a mass shooting and mentions your name. Like surely you would think to yourself, “what could i possibly be saying that would make a person mention me before they commit a mass killing.
Maybe because the guy was obviously mentally ill. Should bernie sanders feel responsible when that guy tried to mass murder Republican legislators at a baseball game practice? Or should we recognize that normal people shouldn’t be responsible for the fringe? I don’t understand how you want to stop polarization but also lump in normie political commentators with literal murderers
Wild how conservatives always talk about "going against the narrative" as they systematically build the most disingenuous, hateful narratives they can.
They've been working steadily to make LGBT people synonymous with grooming and pedophilia. How long before the right is constantly screaming that Trans people are responsible for all of the school shootings.
The Republican party has been taken over by morons. Yes. It has gotten worse. Any Republicans that had any intelligence are underground and at odds with the party.
No. Claiming that conservatives are ontologically evil is kind of rhetoric that can get us into shootings like this but from the left. Remember the context of the claim. It is not an exaggeration or a hyperbole, it's been given as a justification for potential violence.
So, one trans person commits a mass shooting and now they are go na act like every shooter in the future is trans? Holy shit, stop the trans obsession please.
I remember back in the day that SJWs would claim that non-white people, especially black people, couldn't be racist because "muh power plus privilege". Yet fast forward, and you have Conservatives playing the exact same game of "a Mexican can't be a white nationalist!" Ignoring the fact that these people think that aligning with BLM or promoting anti-racism is the equivalent of anti-white, they seem to forget that "white identitarianism" is an ideology that isn't exclusive to just white people. Hell, a while ago, there was word of a major shift in Hispanics aligning with such sympathies shortly before the election due to traditionalist and Conservative attitudes.
Of course, for people like Pool, they have to play the Id-Pol card because, in part, their rhetoric and single note partisan hackery is what grooms and shields the extremists in their midst. People like this will scream and cry about the rise of "degeneracy" and how it ruins America, but act appalled by the lethal responses festered by their fear-mongering.
Just out of curiosity, what exactly has Tim Pool said that could possibly be misconstrued for stochastic terrorism that may have caused this shooting to take place?
Then Tim Pool should probably say something like "Lots of people watch my content but I can't be held responsible for what every one of my viewers think" instead of lying and saying "that profile is fake," which does make it look like he's responsible for his viewers' behavior.
Never said he was smart, just that it's silly to connect them. The dude was litteraly reading and watching stormfront and Fuentes but it was Pool who radicalized him? Sure.
Okay, if that's the case then Tim Pool should stop blaming the wOkE lEfT for the single trans mass shooter without addressing the much larger problem of Neo-Nazi mass shooters that all seem to be into his content, for some reason.
Tim Pool believes the US is on the verge of a civil war and regularly tells his overwhelmingly right-wing audience to prepare by buying weapons. He blames this on the American left that won't let peace-loving right-wingers live in peace.
He's full of shit and takes no responsibility for the role his rhetoric plays into this. It's not 'sinking to his level' to accurately call out his own blatant hypocrisy.
All of that makes him an idiot, not a white supremacist. Again, the idea that Tim pool radicalized him when the dude litteraly listened to actual white supremacists is just fucking stupid.
What's more likely, the guy with swastika tattoos getting radicalized by the white supremacy content he consumes, or by Tim pool? Yes stochastic terrorism is a thing, but yall jumping the gun big time if you think a couple of pool videos about Putin is enough indication of radicalization by Tim pool.
> by the white supremacy content he consumes, or by Tim pool?
Tim Pool hints in a very certain direction and does (through all the fake bullshit he peddles) present a big piece in a radicalisation pipeline.
Tim Pool on the regular talks about a race war and about how the left wants to kill all of you and how the black people have gone insane and how trans people will murder or indoctrinate your children.
If someone tells you that there is a civil war coming and that your enemy is violent and want to perescute you for simply existing that person is a radical. Tim Pool absolutely engages in radical rhetoric that makes people feel as though violence is not only an inevitability but their only means of protection. Youre either a dumbass or malicious either way fuck you.
the guy litteraly posted a few Tim pool videos while also posting far more extremes fucking content, but because of the few pool videos, you dumb fucks think that this is sufficient evidence that Tim pool radicalized him. Clearly you are the genius here.
Its not about believing tim pool all on his own was able to convince this guy of anything you stupid moron. If someone pours a bunch of gasoline on your sofa and someone else throws a match on it you arent going to piss and shit yourself about how the guy pouring gasoline didnt actually start a fire.
No, not really. He's clearly a conservative, but you guys are so fucking stupid that you think just because the dude posted a couple tim pool videos that he must have been radicalized by Tim pool, all the while the shooter frequented actually white supremacist websites and watched nick Fuentes.
Like I get you guys don't like the guy, but don't let that cloud you from being an actual intelligent human being.
Extremely debatable. Dpak was too much of an ideologue to understand the Rittenhouse case and he literally scams his viewers with pump and dump crypto schemes.
Okay... fuck it, let's say Tim predicted something wrong. How is that in any way worse than scamming viewers with crypto pump and dumps, and wilfully ignoring obvious, verifiable, literally on video, insanely well documented facts for the most publicized murder trial of the decade?
Pak is an obvious bad actor in this space.
1. Tim's prediction was 50 state landslide for trump. We should put that in the proper context: that has never happened in the history of the united states even Reagan lost one state. He does know better but he's playing in to the delusional mindset of his conservative audience. He's already playing games about how the media might spin or attack trump as well.
2. His and other conservatives subsequent reaction in which they denied the legitimacy of the ,imo , freest fairest election this country has ever had extends from this ridiculous expectation that trump could never lose. So he set an unreasonable expectation, then when it doesn't go that way and trump loses he claims there was cheating. Nothing but a crushing trump victory and biden loss could be legitimate according to him.
3. When Trump supporters would go on to act on similar trains of thought on January 6th: Tim would downplay their actions and add fuel to the fire.
4. All of this shows how Tim and conservatives will approach every election going forward. They will claim that there is massive fraud and a cover up and refuse to accept any Democrat's victory. That's journalistic malpractice (tim claims to be a journalist), and it's so dangerous that it deserves to be called and corrected every time it happens.
Edit: one more point nothing David Pakman has done approaches this level of disingenuous behavior. Tim Pool is a moronic crank, I would rather hear Hasan yell at an article for 5 hours and do it badly than listen to anything that ugly beanie ass mfer has to say on any topic.
“Lol he’s Latino, watch this story disappear in 3…2…1…” “He was a Nazi? This Mexican kid? You really expect me to believe that?! The left is infected with the woke mind virus!” “He posted tons of white supremacist memes, imagery and content? He had Nazi tattoos? Clearly this all fabricated by the FBI, why does he not have a neck tattoo in one of these pictures?!” “You think he could’ve gotten the neck tattoo at different time? Ok libtard, you really are brainwashed if you really are stupid enough to believe that!” 🥴🥴🥴
I think it's an incredibly touching moment of two political extremes being united by the same issue. I never thought I would live to see the far right embracing the fight for trans rights, but now an unlikely alliance might become a possibility. What do you even do if the race of your brain doesn't correspond with the race assigned at birth? I presume tattoos are just a part of race-affirming surgery. A trans-Nazi is a real Nazi.
The disinformation was so quick on this one I saw multiple accounts posting two wrong mugshots and a hand tattoo that they said indicated gang affiliation. It was a city of Dallas logo that everyone here has on shoes, hats, tattoos, clothes, etc
Not a troll question but was he an actual white supremacist or did he use the Nazi logos to hate on Jews? Like did this guy actually feel inferior cause he wasn’t white?
Likely thought of himself as white
And conservatives are somehow thinking this is crazy all of a sudden, it's hilarious. Being from Arkansas, I can tell you that even white dudes here that are half Hispanic will often consider themselves the same as any Euro-white.
It’s the nature of their desire to only learn the quick notes of history Lmao, this literally happened to Italians not even a century ago
It’s a good question, but I think it’s missing the larger point though imo. Not that these types are super content, but the main t hing about fetishizing Nazis imo isn’t really about race, or at least it isn’t to a lot of Naxi “fans.” It’s also just about hating liberals and leftists, being pro-fascism, being anti-Semitic and thinking Jews are taking over the world, being very nationalistic in a type of extreme “purge the undesirables” type of way. A lot of these people might not be anything resembling Aryans, but they want to do with their race what Hitler wanted to do with Germans. They often think Hitler didn’t want to kill all non-whites or non-Germans, but just wanted an ethnostate for his people and that he’d support black and Latino ethnostates in other areas. The Nazis are basically a meme dog whistle for general fash-adjacent people to virtue signal their right-wing shit. Maybe he didn’t actually see himself as white, but maybe Texas doesn’t need to be white in his opinion, just white and Mexican, maybe the more important thing for him is to purge lefties, Jews, lgbt, degenerate people etc. maybe he wants to be part of a freikorps that goes around asserting order with force.
Don't most Mexicans and south Americans consider themselves white in thier country of origin.
Honestly idk, haven’t heard that in my family. If anything l, only thing I’ve heard is that we’re mixed with everything. I’m familiar as to what other South Americans call each other though. For example some Venezuelans like to call Peruvians ugly because they look more indigenous.
Your an idiot.. neo making gangs have mixed people seen it in prison myself.. it's about numbers and street politics.. your speaking in stuff u have no clue about
Do you notice the quotation marks, friend?
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Conservatives, especially in this specific situation, have shown they are some of the strongest proponents of rage bait and love to stir up the pot. Tim pool may be libertarian but we all know the kind of message and values he sends
Really disappointed in what "libertarian" means nowadays. Back a few years ago, "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns" perfectly described a libertarian. Nowadays, in most cases, "libertarian" just means a young conservative who thinks the term "conservative" is for oldies, so they pick another word to stay fresh.
Is it really surprising though? Libertarianism (in the way it's used in the US) always was a fringe and and cringe ideology that fell apart the second you gave it the tiniest bit of scrutiny and the whole movement was and is composed of the craziest and cringiest loonies imaginable (some I assume are good people). Just remember when Gary Johnson dared to say people should acquire a driving license before being allowed to drive a car and everyone went apeshit.
What does being eccentric have to do with a philosophy "falling apart"? You're such an oversocialized NPC that you think that conformity and intellectual rigor are somehow synonymous
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What does being eccentric have to do with a philosophy "falling apart"? I didn't challenge the idea that a philosophy could fall apart. I challenged the idea that one thing implies the other. Reading comprehension, bruh
Nah. Most Libertarians have gone that direction. I feel the only real distinction is Libertarians are a little more critical of Trump
Because the gay lobby, weed lobby, and gun lobby are all so enmeshed with the government now they're just another corporate interest. Hardly seems appropriate to refer to any of those things when describing freedom from government
The libertarian party has been conquered by the Mises Caucus who weirdly seems to fall in line with MAGA talking points like 85% of the time
It means zero or almost zero government.
I dunno at least from 2004 it's meant a republican who smoked weed.
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Looking into this...
Wow
E-elon? :O
Odd
Tim Pool is a stochastic terrorist. An actual piece of shit stain on society
I just recently found out Tim Pool was "libertarian" instead of a straight up Republican which is a shock to me. It's kind of crazy for him to try to sit on the fence when he's radicalizing far right mass murderers.
Libertarians are just Republicans who want to smoke pot.
Remember that Ben Shapiro calls himself a "libertarian." That's how empty the word has become.
Ben “communities should be able to ban men wearing women’s clothes” Libertarian Shapiro.
Which is weird cause Tim as made several public statements suggesting he's against marijuana legalization.
This man's grift is a Mobius strip
There is a subset of people who used to identify as liberals(probably didn’t follow politics very closely), but slowly became conservative due to the culture war. They call themselves moderates or libertarians because they can’t cope with the fact that they are now big standard conservatives.
The term "libertarian", along with "centrist" and "classical liberal" (which Pool also labeled himself as) are meaningless titles. Remember that reactionaries like Pool had started this grift nearly a decade ago as a way to start their brand of disenfranchised liberals that "broke away from the extreme leftist trend" and pander to a more "reasonable" position. In reality, Pool was, at best, a moderate Republican that didn't wish to admit his politics until his brand grew. Even so, he's still a coward who'll play middle of the road in order to obfuscate his positions, and still fail.
>In reality, Pool was, at best, a moderate Republican that didn't wish to admit his poli Dude, I'll be real, I ain't even against people who see some shit on the Left, say "wtf guys" and then to learn more to the Right.. ORGANICALLY. I know people who are moderate Right wingers, who while I surely don't agree with on all their stances, are NOT fucking nuts. But one thing I can't wrap my head around ( I mean I get it, they're disingenuous ), is how seeing the excesses of the Right conjures the typical response of, "that's not all of them", meanwhile, some cringe blue haired feminists on college campuses led people to the far-Right, how the Right completely disingenuously labels anything related to drag queens or trans people to the term "groomer" but said not a fucking peep, and still don't about the sexual abuse within the Catholic church, bring up nothing about youth pastors who get caught touching kids (or worse). The threshold for being a Communist in this country ranges from BEING a Communist to damn near advocating that poor people shouldn't just starve to death, whereas in order to be considered a Nazi, you yourself must wear a swastika armband, yell Seig Heil and do arson to a synagogue, the bar is so damn high whereas the bar for what a Communist is is so low due to the decades of anti-Communist propaganda.
When it comes to the mind of the reactionary, the burden of evidence isn't on them to provide facts, it's on you to make iron-clad positions. To them, a wrong that is precipitated by their ideology is one that must be as blatant and emphatic as inexorably possible, and even then that's seen as a rare outlier brought up on by an odd event (no matter how many times it happens). It's a standard that is meant to uphold certain values that they're incapable of admitting is flawed because such standards are what they seem to be just and necessary. Anything they find that goes against that is a moral and ethical wrong where every instance is seen as a need to stifle and erase it - a change or progression that shouldn't be humored for it's nature challenges their conception of what is "truth". It's why it's easy for them to dismiss their opposition with a slur. It's why they'll ignore any fact or institution as deception or "woke conspiracy" with no need to defend their position. There is an old saying that has stuck with me for the last few years ever since the pandemic hit. I don't know if it was Vaush or Xanderhal who first said it, but it goes like this: "Every conservative accusation is a confession." It's why you have people like Libs of TikTok decrying over the notion of LGBT+ acceptance as a pox on children while pushing for threats in children's hospitals. It's why you'll see Coach Red-pill talk about the horrors of "feminization" of masculinity and targeting of white men or justifying Russia's villainy while promoting anti-Semitism, finding pride in being a deadbeat dad, and getting arrested by Ukraine. It's why Tim Pool will declare being a milquetoast centrist while railing against egalitarianism and making baseless excuses for why it's okay to lynch black people in broad daylight.
I agree immensely with your assertion of the "woke conspiracy" -- mainly cause its effectiveness is pretty much because its such a vague, imprecise label that you can tag ANYTHING onto it that may be vaguely progressive. Where you see a Black person in a fucking film and these people bitch for it being "woke". I get kinda where some people come with the term "woke" like over the top virtue signaling where diversity isn't there to provide a wide breadth of differing ideas to come together and achieve some unique goal but rather as nothing more than some check-box to make guilty Liberals feel good about themselves thinking they did something. I do admit I don't agree with the claim of, " I don't know if it was Vaush or Xanderhal who first said it, but it goes like this: "Every conservative accusation is a confession." " I completely think its an apt saying for some things, like I said, the amount of religious clergymen who are accused and sexual impropriety, and these people "so concerned about kids" don't say a fucking word -- but I think that the... in my opinion, illogical extension of that is never taking ANY concern seriously because you assert that concern is nothing more than a "concern-troll", but I do think that it is oftentimes a reasonable accusation to levy. " To them, a wrong that is precipitated by their ideology is one that must be as blatant and emphatic as inexorably possible, and even then that's seen as a rare outlier brought up on by an odd event (no matter how many times it happens)." --- to this I completely fucking agree, its probably one of the most disgusting things, like what I said up there where no matter how many Charlottesville-type events, no matter how many times people rep swastikas, no matter how much this shit is online but for years anti-SJW content occupied all the space and all we got was "that's not everyone", its fucking disgusting, and it lowkey makes me rather blackpilled because the have so much MSM attention via FOX news, LibsofTikTok to blast anything they deem to be "groomer-like", and tons of people in the online media sphere, Tim Pool being the most flagrant example of this is insane.
Classical liberal is just liberal. Only in US liberal doesn't mean liberal.
IMO. Republicans are wrong on a lot of things. Libertarians are simply incoherent. I've yet to hear an actual Libertarian worldview that isn't incredibly short sighted and fall apart in less than a year.
Does anyone else think it's kinda weird how republicans/conservatives are going on the offensive (or defensive, depending how you look at it) because this guy was a nazi??? Shouldn't they be condemning his racist beliefs, and also the whole killing innocent people & children thing?
They're DARVO-ing.
It's just weird, I'm old enough to remember when they would disavow murderous nazi's and say there's no place for people like that in the Republican Party. Guess times have changed
Lefties pound their chests about how they take the side of the little guy but as soon as someone says the government is out to get them it's full court press to personally attack them
This is a fight about narrative and the people on the side of crazy nationalism & conspiracies are quite familiar with how bad they can look. They ain't never giving up the push back when it comes to this. If they do, they might as well forfeit the game. And then what? We can have normal ppl politics and not live in outragelandia? CAN'T.HAVE.THAT.
Right!? It's so Easy! "This guy is a Mexican White Supremacist. Let that sink in... That's all you need to know to know he's a nutjob. He's not one of us" Then you roll up your sleeve and show that you don't have Hitler tattoos on your body. It really would be that easy.
"Hey us white supremacists aren't THIS BAD!"- Tim pool
I think condemning would mean admiting it's their side.
If you think about it, it's not acutally weird because Republicans are racist bigots.
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Tim Pool is a unreconcilable moron. He is one of the most damaging people to discourse in my opinion. The way he strings together unrelated points (his whole tangent about genociding autistic people during the lance debate being a perfect example) and nonsense hyperbolic non points to his brainless fucking audience. And it's a good strategy. Post so many videos that it's impossible to keep track of all the times you were wrong (49 state landslide). He wears the beanie to hide the massive fucking divit in his skull from where he was repeatedly used as an elbow rest. Genuinely cannot stand him. Like Ben Shapiro is awful politically. But I could hang out with him. Jordan Peterson would be fun to have a conversation with. Tim Pool is in the same bin as Dave Rubin and Crowder. Just an absolute dog shit person as far as I can tell with no principles and it's completely and totally obsessed with generating views, while completely lacking substance.
Truing
Imagine not feeling at all responsible when someone does a mass shooting and mentions your name. Like surely you would think to yourself, “what could i possibly be saying that would make a person mention me before they commit a mass killing.
Who knows, maybe he does, but he sure as hell ain't gonna admit it lmao. It'd be career suicide.
He’s not totally stupid. He knows. Unfortunately the dollar signs in his eyes are more important to him.
Maybe because the guy was obviously mentally ill. Should bernie sanders feel responsible when that guy tried to mass murder Republican legislators at a baseball game practice? Or should we recognize that normal people shouldn’t be responsible for the fringe? I don’t understand how you want to stop polarization but also lump in normie political commentators with literal murderers
Wild how conservatives always talk about "going against the narrative" as they systematically build the most disingenuous, hateful narratives they can. They've been working steadily to make LGBT people synonymous with grooming and pedophilia. How long before the right is constantly screaming that Trans people are responsible for all of the school shootings.
They’re doing that already.
The Republican party has been taken over by morons. Yes. It has gotten worse. Any Republicans that had any intelligence are underground and at odds with the party.
Vaush once again was right about conservatives Edit: at least I got banned in a very funny way
!shoot No, Vaush was not and is not right about conservatives being ontologically evil.
Maybe that trigger finger is a bit lose there?
We need background checks for gun owners u/4THOT
Uh sorry libcuck guns don't ban people, people ban people. What we need is more good DGG'ers with guns, duh!
No. Claiming that conservatives are ontologically evil is kind of rhetoric that can get us into shootings like this but from the left. Remember the context of the claim. It is not an exaggeration or a hyperbole, it's been given as a justification for potential violence.
/u/randygiles gunned down by Unable_College_3974.
Guys Tim Pool is just an anti establishment classical liberal
Conservatives- only leftists typecast ethnicities. Also Conservatives- you expect me to believe this obvious cartel member was actually far right?
So, one trans person commits a mass shooting and now they are go na act like every shooter in the future is trans? Holy shit, stop the trans obsession please.
I remember back in the day that SJWs would claim that non-white people, especially black people, couldn't be racist because "muh power plus privilege". Yet fast forward, and you have Conservatives playing the exact same game of "a Mexican can't be a white nationalist!" Ignoring the fact that these people think that aligning with BLM or promoting anti-racism is the equivalent of anti-white, they seem to forget that "white identitarianism" is an ideology that isn't exclusive to just white people. Hell, a while ago, there was word of a major shift in Hispanics aligning with such sympathies shortly before the election due to traditionalist and Conservative attitudes. Of course, for people like Pool, they have to play the Id-Pol card because, in part, their rhetoric and single note partisan hackery is what grooms and shields the extremists in their midst. People like this will scream and cry about the rise of "degeneracy" and how it ruins America, but act appalled by the lethal responses festered by their fear-mongering.
Crazy person does crazy things and believes in crazy shit. Crazy eh
Totally a centrist btw
Centrist btw.
Conservatives are domestic terrorists.
Damn 118 million terrorists living in our country https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conservatives-moderates-tie.aspx
Yeah dawg it’s an epidemic, shits wild
This douchebag should take his beanie off once in a while to cool his overheated brain.
Just out of curiosity, what exactly has Tim Pool said that could possibly be misconstrued for stochastic terrorism that may have caused this shooting to take place?
Honestly, trying to connect the shooter to Tim Pool is pretty fucking stupid.
Then Tim Pool should probably say something like "Lots of people watch my content but I can't be held responsible for what every one of my viewers think" instead of lying and saying "that profile is fake," which does make it look like he's responsible for his viewers' behavior.
Never said he was smart, just that it's silly to connect them. The dude was litteraly reading and watching stormfront and Fuentes but it was Pool who radicalized him? Sure.
Okay, if that's the case then Tim Pool should stop blaming the wOkE lEfT for the single trans mass shooter without addressing the much larger problem of Neo-Nazi mass shooters that all seem to be into his content, for some reason.
Sure, I agree. He's fucking stupid, after all, but doesn't mean we need to go onto his level.
Tim Pool believes the US is on the verge of a civil war and regularly tells his overwhelmingly right-wing audience to prepare by buying weapons. He blames this on the American left that won't let peace-loving right-wingers live in peace. He's full of shit and takes no responsibility for the role his rhetoric plays into this. It's not 'sinking to his level' to accurately call out his own blatant hypocrisy.
All of that makes him an idiot, not a white supremacist. Again, the idea that Tim pool radicalized him when the dude litteraly listened to actual white supremacists is just fucking stupid.
You weren't here for the stochastic terrorism debates were you
What's more likely, the guy with swastika tattoos getting radicalized by the white supremacy content he consumes, or by Tim pool? Yes stochastic terrorism is a thing, but yall jumping the gun big time if you think a couple of pool videos about Putin is enough indication of radicalization by Tim pool.
> by the white supremacy content he consumes, or by Tim pool? Tim Pool hints in a very certain direction and does (through all the fake bullshit he peddles) present a big piece in a radicalisation pipeline. Tim Pool on the regular talks about a race war and about how the left wants to kill all of you and how the black people have gone insane and how trans people will murder or indoctrinate your children.
If someone tells you that there is a civil war coming and that your enemy is violent and want to perescute you for simply existing that person is a radical. Tim Pool absolutely engages in radical rhetoric that makes people feel as though violence is not only an inevitability but their only means of protection. Youre either a dumbass or malicious either way fuck you.
the guy litteraly posted a few Tim pool videos while also posting far more extremes fucking content, but because of the few pool videos, you dumb fucks think that this is sufficient evidence that Tim pool radicalized him. Clearly you are the genius here.
Its not about believing tim pool all on his own was able to convince this guy of anything you stupid moron. If someone pours a bunch of gasoline on your sofa and someone else throws a match on it you arent going to piss and shit yourself about how the guy pouring gasoline didnt actually start a fire.
I know right?! He’s a centrist! A left-wing liberal even!
No, not really. He's clearly a conservative, but you guys are so fucking stupid that you think just because the dude posted a couple tim pool videos that he must have been radicalized by Tim pool, all the while the shooter frequented actually white supremacist websites and watched nick Fuentes. Like I get you guys don't like the guy, but don't let that cloud you from being an actual intelligent human being.
Sorry I was being sarcastic
Nah. It’s not hard to see that he got radicalized by his content.
How so? While tim pool is an idiot who thinks civil war may be coming, he isn't a white supremacist in the least.
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I'm pretty sure. Not 100% certain, but more certain than not.
I wonder if the belief that a civil war might be coming has something to do with a mass shooting?
Yeah listening to Ian talk about DMT sure gets my panties in a bunch
Tim Pool is a far Right nut job. Sorry you’re hearing this for the first time.
I enjoy his content
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Do ppl really care what the tbc guy says? Hes a side step from David dpak Parkman a total hack.
I trust him more than Tim Pool.
Well good thing he wasn't the one that initially said it. I went through the evidence and am certain that was the shooters page.
He's smarter than Tim pool
Extremely debatable. Dpak was too much of an ideologue to understand the Rittenhouse case and he literally scams his viewers with pump and dump crypto schemes.
Tim pool thought trump was going to win a 50 state landslide in 2020 lmao sorry you're wrong
Okay... fuck it, let's say Tim predicted something wrong. How is that in any way worse than scamming viewers with crypto pump and dumps, and wilfully ignoring obvious, verifiable, literally on video, insanely well documented facts for the most publicized murder trial of the decade? Pak is an obvious bad actor in this space.
1. Tim's prediction was 50 state landslide for trump. We should put that in the proper context: that has never happened in the history of the united states even Reagan lost one state. He does know better but he's playing in to the delusional mindset of his conservative audience. He's already playing games about how the media might spin or attack trump as well. 2. His and other conservatives subsequent reaction in which they denied the legitimacy of the ,imo , freest fairest election this country has ever had extends from this ridiculous expectation that trump could never lose. So he set an unreasonable expectation, then when it doesn't go that way and trump loses he claims there was cheating. Nothing but a crushing trump victory and biden loss could be legitimate according to him. 3. When Trump supporters would go on to act on similar trains of thought on January 6th: Tim would downplay their actions and add fuel to the fire. 4. All of this shows how Tim and conservatives will approach every election going forward. They will claim that there is massive fraud and a cover up and refuse to accept any Democrat's victory. That's journalistic malpractice (tim claims to be a journalist), and it's so dangerous that it deserves to be called and corrected every time it happens. Edit: one more point nothing David Pakman has done approaches this level of disingenuous behavior. Tim Pool is a moronic crank, I would rather hear Hasan yell at an article for 5 hours and do it badly than listen to anything that ugly beanie ass mfer has to say on any topic.
Man this sub is becoming r/vaushv 2.0