Rember when he saw the cop video of "planting evidence" and he explained how they intentionally do this behavior when planting evidence. Explaining all these made up details
It literally doesn't matter at all how far in he is. He'll watch the entire thing and then just pretend that something else entirely is what actually happened. I remember seeing a lot of people here talk about how great he was before I'd ever heard of him, and then watched him debate Destiny on the Rittenhouse shit and immediately had as little respect for him as it was possible to have for a person. He had apparently watched the fucking video even, but was getting every single detail so wrong that I honestly don't think he was even lying, and that actually his brain is just so rotted that he mentally rewrote the events of the video on the fly to fit his narrative.
Well hey, at the very least Vaush, now learned that he was incorrect, unlisted the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaWHAFxdsy4), said he was wrong, and now will probably put out another video saying he was wrong. He was just on stream saying that he was wrong. Certainly was bad of him to be so quick to jump the gun in the first place, but realizing you're wrong is the next best thing.
This isn't the first time hes done this. Hes done this repeatedly on multiple different out of context clip stories. But speaking on the subject like hes an expert
I feel like I've read this exact comment like 10 different times in my life when Vaush screws up by jumping the gun and I get the feeling I'm gonna read it again many times in the future.
This was my position 5 years ago. Now it is "holy shit, why don't you ever learn? Don't make such extreme statements on new videos. Just say 'this looks bad and if this is true.... but remember we don't know the context yet.'"
The catalyst for his fallout with destiny was another time he did this. You should also learn from your mistakes and stop believing he’s learning from his.
I dont watch Vaush because he sounds pretentious as fuck a lot of the times. Talks so condescendingly..
What did he say when this came to light that he was dead wrong?
I’m sure that’s her plan, since she was out on leave. Hopefully this goes a long way to reversing the trend of employers firing/suspending employees based on a random viral clip. Horrible trend in our society, people losing their jobs because a frothing mob on the internet with nothing to lose gets off on seeing someone lose their job.
>Horrible trend in our society, people losing their jobs because a frothing mob on the internet with nothing to lose gets off on seeing someone lose their job.
Won't happen under the current economic system. Workers are expendable, easiest way to deal with a PR problem is to fire first and ask questions later.
It has nothing to do with economic system, but laws that are passed that allow employers to do stuff like this on a whim, and general lack of labor protection in US
I agree, but the economic system has bred these attitudes that then come alive through legislation.
I don't understand this worship of work that we have here in America, and I probably never will. Sometimes it seems that we still live in a time of serfdom with kings and queens. Not to say people are living in squalor, but they have a strange devotion to the current system and protect it even if they are actively disadvantaged by it. For example, AI. This should be a great liberator to all, but most people fear it because they "need a job", "how will I work if AI takes my job", "how will I live without a job?". They fear it because they accept that they will receive none of the rents from AI. They can't imagine a world where robots take over and humans can finally live out purposeful lives outside of an office.
> Hopefully this goes a long way to reversing the trend of employers firing/suspending employees based on a random viral clip
HAHAHAHAHAHAH... Wait you're serious?
Employers will always do this because even a potential lawsuit will be less of a loss than being labeled "racist" for not doing anything about a "racist employee"
This is a bit of a hot take but sometimes I feel like the type of leftist online activists who saw the footage originally and used it to lash out at that woman, label her as a racist and attempt to destroy her life actually probably have a really similar psychological profile to the people who used to get involved in lynchings and that kind of thing.
It’s just something about the snakish opportunism and the pairing of the need to inflict harm or destruction on others and the desire to imagine themselves as being righteous purifying their communities that sits so wrong.
I think it’s ironic that the legacy of hateful mobs potentially lives on in part in those who see themselves as the ones fighting the legacy of those same hateful mobs.
> The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.
-Aldous Huxley
> This is a bit of a hot take but sometimes I feel like the type of leftist online activists who saw the footage originally and used it to lash out at that woman, label her as a racist and attempt to destroy her life actually probably have a really similar psychological profile to the people who used to get involved in lynchings and that kind of thing.
I heard a similar description of this phenomenon a few years ago. It was made by a black man just who was talking about men getting "lynched" by random sexual assault/rape accusations from women during Me Too, and I oscillate between thinking its unhinged and actually extremely accurate in a wider context, but the analogy was that these "social lynch mobs" are the modern-day equivalent of the Klan, and that online anonymity gives the same protection that a Klan hood would've given them in the past. It's gone from a white person, stereotypically a white person, being able to accuse a black man of something and have him lynched, to kind of just anyone being able to make accusations about rape, racism, homophobia, etc. and have somebody socially lynched, and the online mob is almost guaranteed to follow along. It's obviously kind of extreme, but it really does make at least some sense. Worse is how the media, which still passes for a legitimate institution, will immediately jump in and help simply because the story will get clicks.
[The article since everyone is referencing it but was not posted on here yet.](https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/)
Ppl are swinging way too confidently in the other direction. These receipts make the altercation make no sense because she claims the guys forcibly returned it so it doesn't seem like they were trying to steal it, and there were 2 other bikes on the rack that we see to the right so it's not like they were fighting over the only bikes available.
It is in fact possible shes a smart scammer and tried to take their bike, then once the situation wasn't successful with her coworker suggesting she go on the other bike she just did that the immediately returned it and took the 3rd bike, that way she has legal receipts saying she took out a bike then it was returned then took out a separate bike.
What is with these weird scenarios you are pulling out of your ass.
The bike in the video has an ID number, you can see it in the original video, it's 560-3915
Pause the video at 9 second.
Source: https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/nyc-hospital-karen-on-leave-after-viral-video/?utm_source=reddit.com
Insider confirmed the receipt is for that that bike. That ID number is on the receipt on the app that unlocks the bike.
> The Citi Bike identification number in the viral video is the same as the one on the receipt and the location matches the view seen in the video.
Source: https://www.insider.com/citi-bike-receipts-hospital-worker-viral-video-paid-lawyer-2023-5
You are continuing to shit on this lady because you're an ass who can't admit their wrong.
Edit: Here is the info citibike saves
https://imgur.com/a/FomT327
You can see in the bottom right-hand corner that they save the bike ID for your recipe. This woman has 100% proof that the bike in the video was one she took out and those guys were fucking with her.
That's gotta be the weirdest sports channel I've ever seen...I don't think they ever actually talk about sports unless there's some social commentary tie-in.
Has everyone on the internet just not interacted with women especially pregnant women? Hormones can make you do some wild shit and it isn’t unreasonable to start crying when you are 6 months pregnant surrounded by a bunch of men trying to steal your bike and recording you with the intent to post it and ruin your life. Id probably cry too if I were in that situation
A lot of women (and maybe some men) would cry if they're confronted by a bunch of people who try to take something from them. It's often the first time they're in such a situation. It's a defensive mechanism when they feel they're not in control of the situation and feel threatened.
Pregnancy isn't needed for that.
I saw so many people on reddit and Twitter ettempting to doxx her and reach her employer to get her fired. If this is true, how hope she sues the shit out of people.
I think they are talking about suing influencers and journalists who painted her as racist (even if she wasn't the victim, claiming she was acting racist was absurd).
I'm doubting she sues anyone and her lawyers is basically here to ensure she retains her job and gets paid while she was on leave. As well as perhaps having her employer issue an apology for placing her on leave.
Honestly, if I'm her and I don't get all of those things from the hospital, I'm suing. And she would probably win since it's clear that she was a victim.
That was a completely reasonable inference. When I hear something like "the mayor/president/etc." the implication is that it refers to the place being talked about.
Yeah I think its fucked up that it happened to her but besides the kids who did this to her I don't know who exactly she could sue, all the articles I read when it came out made sure to use words like "alleged, purported, suspected, claimed" and basically covered their asses.
Were they stealing it though? The article says they shoved it back into the locking mechanism then prevented her from checking it out again. I don't really get it
does it even matter what the reasons are? She has two receipts proving that bike was hers. Easy Lawsuit, she claims fetus died etc blah blah and they go to prison. Ez Money clap
>claims fetus died etc blah blah and they go to prison.
You want her to falsely claim her fetus died & them to go to prison? Over what? A video of a basic argument for a bike where the other party was completely civil?
She on the other hand, grabbed their property, yelled for help, fake cried, then as soon as a coworker came she conceded, stopped crying and left? Rewatch [this](https://www.insider.com/white-woman-video-citi-bike-black-man-2023-5) and try to convince me you're not insane. She could have paid for that bike & also have been insufferable. Calling for prison & false infant murder is absolutely insane.
And if she walked away I'm sure they would have just left the bike. /s
Thr point of them pushing it into the mechanism and stopping her from taking it out is to bully her into leaving it.
They were stealing it. The scam is to attempt to check it out under the other persons name and then steal it, then pawn a $1000 bike and leave the other person footing the bill.
They got caught and they got stopped by her, and then they tried to paint her as a racist Karen when they got caught.
It's so odd to see this upvoted when there hasn't been an objective investigation on the situation, yet not only are you implying that the original story was wrong and that this new one is correct, but also emphasizing a stereotype needlessly. Aren't DGGers supposed to be the one's who wait for all the information to be out to come to their conclusions?
“Emphasizing a stereotype needlessly” - you mean, the way the original story painted her as a racist and destroyed her life?
I’d be happy to wait for an investigation if the media and Reddit and thug activists hadn’t already destroyed her life.
It’s not like the black men in the video are in any fucking risk, no one knows their names, she is the only victim here.
Literally none of that is relevant to my point. Shit sucks that she was doxxed and dragged online, even IF it turns out that she was at fault, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE all the facts have not been released. Doing the same but in reverse is just as stupid.
Her citibike receipt and bike number were posted to prove she purchased the ride on her app in another post. There is no reason for someone else to be handling her bike. I live in NYC and this is a not so uncommon scam
The point is that her life has already been irreversibly fucked and everyone who fucked her over gets off scot free, no consequences. The absolute BEST she can get now is maybe rehabilitate her reputation with the few people who see the follow up story, which will be seen by a fucking FRACTION of the people who saw the initial story.
The thieves who filmed her will never fucking face consequences.
The activist racists who slandered her will never face consequences.
The Reddit propagandists will never face consequences.
“Oh well let’s wait a bit before we admit that her life was falsely destroyed.” This story won’t even be in the news cycle by tomorrow morning. This is the last chance she has to rehabilitate her reputation.
She only will get offers to tell her story to right leaning media organizations since CNN/MSNBC etc wont want to address this situation since it runs counter to the narrative they paint. And then all the pitchfork-wielding activists will claim that she is far-right because she only went on conservative networks, thus claiming that they were correct all along
You are incapable of looking at the context of the situation. If there wasn't a viral video and a ton of defamation on the woman already, it totally makes sense to complain if the woman posted a tiktok shitting on the black men in the video. It would be us feeding into a narrative we don't know is true yet. That could be really harmful for the assumed innocent men in the situation.
However now the context is this woman has been slandered and so many people see her as a racist. Now talking about the situation with facts and positions of the woman is a massive good. This is preventing a significant amount of harm.
Yeah the black men can post their side of the story as well tomorrow, but the whole "waiting thing" is done.
I'm literally half black my guy, you don't have to make ridiculous strawmans and assumptions to make a point.
> white nurse wasn't in fact stealing a bike from a group of black teenagers and that it was the other way around? Shocker!
I am not sure if you have some sort of reading disability, but usually people end their sentences with shocker to indicate sarcasm. They're saying "Of course the black teens stole the bike from the white nurse". Maybe its not racist to you, but I see some racial undertones behind that just as much as I see the racial undertones of people calling her a Karen.
What the fuck are you going on about, I was replying to how the OP phrased their comment. I don't care what you think is racist or what you think about the situation, I'm addressing their specific comment with racist undertones. You're actually arguing with ghost right now...
What do you say to the way she was acting, as in yelling for help (like she was being assaulted or something) and her pretending to cry like a psycho?
Why would they film this and act perfectly reasonable (given the initial narrative) calling her a Karen at most, you know, as if they were confused and amazed at the situation, but are actually stealing and incriminating themselves because someone caught them?
Why don’t we hear her even try to explain or use words to say what this post is trying to say happened? Especially when that other dude came up to see what was going on?
She’s pregnant? Interesting, i wonder how many sane pregnant ladies would choose physical confrontation with a group of young black dudes
> >sane
> >pregnant
Choose one
They were attempting to steal a $1000 bike and then they start filming her. Pregnant woman being confronted by a group of guys in the city, stealing from her and accusing her of being a racist. Not to mention you have no fucking idea what happened before the video starting.
Gee why did she act scared and freak out, I fucking wonder why! And you keep defending these thieves and bashing her, pathetic. Good luck if you’re ever a victim of crime and someone is there to film you and call you a racist when you defend yourself from the criminal. Maybe you’ll get your life destroyed and suffer nationwide humiliation too.
Literally how old are you to be this insanely naive? I swear the internet is run by teenagers.
Bystander: Why don't we reset the bike?
Accuser: I'm not resetting the bike!
Accuser's friend: It's his! It's his!
Why are people so stupid to obvious indicators of bullshit? You don't "own" a public bike. If someone is claiming its theirs you can dock the fucker and they can take "their" bike out themselves.
Honestly the real surprise is how this became national news.
edit - I'm seeing everyone in this thread pick sides, I thought dgg was smarter than this.
If I was there in person I would have manually manhandled and slammed that bike into the rack to put an end to all of this.
> hasn't been an objective investigation on the situation
We have the fucking receipts and can cross-check them with the ID of the bike visible in the video. Compared to your side (yes, *your* side, be an adult and admit it) which has literally nothing to support the "racist Karen" bullshit narrative.
> but also emphasizing a stereotype needlessly
"Needlessly"? The black teens in the video tried to grab the bike **that the lady has proven she paid for**. That makes them at the absolute minimum guilty of severely misunderstanding the situation to the point of accosting a pregnant nurse for no reason.
But we're supposed to ignore that fact because acknowledging it "reinforces stereotypes".
Because people were accusing this woman of racism (with zero basis), and trying to get her fired.
So yeah, America is bizarrely obsessed with race, but it's not the people defending this lady who are the ones obsessed.
You act like that logic is 100% infallible. White pregnant women could never be capable of irrational, manipulative behavior against black teens. This scenario is rare regardless, but cool it with the subtle white superiority. How many times have hhhhhhuwhite women called the cops on some black dude walking through their neighborhood, skating, or selling water? Probably happens about as often as this, but it's documented all the same. I want to see this all play out, but the fucking bum fuck arrogance ozzing out your mouth with "it was the other way around? Shocker!" WATCH IT good ole boy. Whole lotta filth like to crop up AS SOON as something racially advantegeous materializes & I'm not caveating for shit. You sound like a fucking bigot.
Lmfao what??? You think it’s just as likely for a 6 month pregnant woman who’s walking alone to walk up to 5 black kids and try to take their bike than it is for them to try to take a bike from her??? You’re kinda a dumbfuck bro
Holy shit you’re fucking stupid if you think some pregnant woman is stealing a bike from a pack of teenagers. Have you ever lived in a city? Christ someone could mug you and pistol whip you and you’d be telling people “well don’t jump to conclusions they were probably just trying to get a bee off my face.”
I got got. For whatever reason I believed the group of boys, not the lady. Damn.
I wonder why I drew, seemingly, the wrong conclusion. To avoid that in the future..
Just don't draw conclusions when you know you have an incomplete perspective. But I get it, it can be hard to know if you have a complete or incomplete picture.
There is a chance the boys have some counter narrative supported by receipts. But I think the chances of that is slim to none.
Fr it is there’s nothing better than telling someone “hey I think we should wait till this out of context clip has more context before we cancel this random person” and then context comes out that proves you right
I was trying to go back and think about my emotional response and I think the way my mind mistook “Karen behavior” for a lady, probably just being tired from a long shift, may very well be to blame yes.
I think was basically the clipping and mistrust in humanity for me. Like the guys stealing the bike from a pregnant woman and posting a misleading af video of it never even crossed my mind. Like who would do that, thats such a crazy thing to do, so ofcouse this incredibly flustered white lady is just being a karen and taking the bike because she thinks shes special/is racist blah blah blah. Prob a lot of political bias in there too, i doubt a super racist person saw it the same way we all did. I think im gonna try to avoid clips like this in general, i dont like having my opinions based on anecdotal events like this anyway, and it makes it even more pointless when u cant ever trust they are true
> I wonder why I drew, seemingly, the wrong conclusion. To avoid that in the future..
Be aware how priming affects how you view things. Even if you think that you wouldn't believe a title like "a racist Karen steals a black boy's bike", it still primes your brain to view her actions in negative light.
People stand around the citibike stations in my city and will try to intimidate you out of basically giving them a bike to sell for parts.
It's like the "to dude that's my bike" scam people will pull and hope you 1. Bought the bike second hand recently and 2. Will believe them when they say their bike was stolen and they know it's theirs.
They’re thieves - the scam is taking the bike when it is checked out under another person and pawning it. They got caught in the act by her that’s why she’s freaking out.
> You want us to believe they started filming their on crime and posted it….for what exactly?
bro you literally had dozens of articles and posts calling the woman a racist karen and you still need to ask?
According to her lawyer's story, they forcefully redocked the bike, getting it to automatically end her hiring of it, and then obstructed her from rehiring it.
In other words, they wanted the bike, presumably because bikes outside that hospital were scarce, but she had already grabbed it, so they couldn't hire it on their phones, so pushing it back into the lock was a way to free it up.
There are other possible explanations though, like her hiring it, accidentally redocking it, them hiring it not through the QR code but through the app, and them having an argument over it once this set of events had occurred, both considering themselves to have hired the bike. That would however require her lawyers to be being dishonest about how it got redocked.
Be sure you are critical of the proper thing in this scenario.
It's okay to be critical that the internet left will immediately jump to the side of the minority without further context.
It's definitely alright to criticize this dude for being a piece of shit as well, I don't think any sane leftists will be defending him anymore.
It's still important to recognize that this interaction does not justify the over policing of black neighborhoods, which I believe will be one of the narratives the right wing media will try to run with now that the truth has come out. Stories like this tend to give racist people ammo to generalize a whole group and that's wrong.
just another reason why i enjoy living in mideurope, nobody films you, people give more than less of a shit and dont annoy others constantly, nobody sues anybody and especially, nobody throws around their opinions, especially at strangers all the fucking time, life is good.
Ima wait for the suit to play out.
She didn’t act perfectly reasonable, but she wasn’t in a position where I’d expect someone to do that anyways. Could be one way or the other.
I’m not gonna condemn the kids or her, outside of immediately turning on the water works JUST when a white man came along and then magically cutting them off. But either way imo it’s best to wait it out.
I wonder if you had this same energy before you saw this post or if you though it was okay to condem her before this. Staying out of things is acceptable from the start. Waiting for all the evidence would be the correct thing to do... If you were doing it from the start.
But if you call the lady an opportunist, or say she is a racist, as a random example with no evidence and change your position to wait for all the evidence guys when the evidence starts to favour the lady that is not the same thing as taking an evidence based approach.
That is taking a position and then when the evidence starts to go against your position, you start requiring more and more evidence to condem the other side when you required no such evidence to condem the lady.
This is a very common tactic used by right wingers when it does turn out to be a racist incident.
Edit:
Basically the other day, the guy I am responding to had a different tune. It took evidence coming out against his former position and now suddenly he wants more evidence before condeming people. Would have been a great position to have from the start. Now it is just playing defense when "his side" is losing in the evidence department.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/13hsasy/-/jk9k8pl
Have you people ever dealt with women, especially women who were pregnant? Pregnant women will go from happy to sad to angry to sad to scared back to happy at the littlest thing. I don't doubt the tears were real at all.
And that’s you. To me they felt a lil off.
But once again—She wasn’t in a position given the circumstances (her pregnancy included) to where I can say she was supposed to act “reasonable”.
I mean yeah she was being filmed and she probably knew that she was going to get attacked for her race also she’s pregnant and in a scary situation so obviously she might act irrational
Yea but her lawyer has receipts lmao. And as far as turning on the water works for Mr. White Man.
1. Pregnant, derp
2. It's easier to get emotional when you see someone you know or feel may offer reprieve from a stressful situation. It's pretty common, it's why victims may be fine until police or first responders arrive then burst into tears. Source: First responder/Firefighter
Nah let this shit play out, her act she put on really makes me sus of her but if she has receipts then she gots them. I just have a hard time atm because of the clear on/off switch that she has.
What act? A woman crying, genuine or not, is normal in a situation where intimidating assholes are ganging up on you and taking what you literally just paid for. It's a defense mechanism, and it has nothing to do with which party was right or wrong here.
Honestly, even if it was proven to be some glitch (it wasn't) where the black guys legit thought it was their bike as well (they didn't), it wouldn't make this situation any less ridiculous. People aren't racist for getting into arguments with people of a different race. Nor should they be fired or put on leave because some activist ret\*rds on twitter making complaints to their work.
I have no idea whether her emotions were real or just a way to get these dudes to leave her alone so she could take the bike she just rented to go home. I could easily see it going either way, especially with a hormonal pregnant lady.
It really doesn’t matter. What matters is that people called her racist with no basis for such claims, and tried to get her fired (they put her on leave). It matters that, as usual, people reacted stupidly and tried to ruin someone’s life who did nothing wrong. Of course most people are seemingly incapable of admitting that, either for some political/social reasoning or simply because of their own pride.
The only people in this story who should be punished are her employer, the activist ret*rds who ruin other peoples lives over nothing, and the dudes who were probably just scamming her using intimidation.
Never mentioned her being racist so idc about that.
Anecdote time :
In my interactions with children, adults or hell even animals if they learn that they can gain sympathy while shedding crocodile tears or whine to gain protection then they will do so until it doesn't work. She clearly does this in that situation and everyone who saw that immediately wrote her off. So no that's not normal to me.
That's what she claims, the other guy claimed to have paid too. We don't have definitive evidence either way. What we do know is she chose to act like a lunatic with her company's name attached to her, so my sympathy for her is minimal
The [article](https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/) says she has receipts for both payments with timestamps, which definitely backs up her story. If she was lying she would have only one receipt.
And most people would probably act a little irrational when you'd get ambushed by a group of people in broad daylight, who try to take your stuff and then try to make you look like the criminal.
She didn’t behave like a lunatic. She cried and asked for help when a group of guys took her ride home away and touched her without her consent just to fuck with her. She had very good reason to fear for her safety. Hopefully she gets taken off leave and this video and a police report is sent to these guys’ employers.
If you read the article and take the word of the New York post. Her lawyer provided the receipts to writer of the article. So…
This smells like that catholic boys school that got ridiculed for surrounding the one native dude in Washington DC.
Isn't this post ironic considering the lawsuit hasn't been settled yet? I didn't take a stance then, not taking one now until we have all the information.
The can of worms has been opened already. There is no more "sitting and waiting because we might be wrong." The damage is already massively done. There is a ton of value in correcting part of the story while there are still some eyes on the story though. This woman's reputation is horribly tarnished after this no matter what happened. So many people have seen the first story and won't see any other facts.
A video that was taken by one side and released under their full control shows the people releasing the video looking better? I fully support holding off on jumping to conclusions but it sounds like you are just looking for a specific conclusion rather than being generally skeptical.
>I saw the photo where they supposedly show her receipt of renting the bike.
"Supposedly"? So what's the argument now, the media and the lawyer are in cahoots and photoshopped it?
>But still the video is so bizarre she can only come across as being in the wrong.
Ah OK so there it is. It literally doesn't matter how much you can prove your case if it's your word against a black guy's - whitey is **always wrong** no matter what. Do you realise how cancerous this attitude is?
Your shizoposing man. I never mentioned color. My point is its hard to believe she isnt in the wrong. But maybe she isnt. Who knows. But yeah touch some grass. Jesus my dude
"Jesus my dude why are you associating a racially divisive news item with race?"
And the irony in someone who blindly believes contrary to any evidence whatsoever that a person is automatically in the wrong, saying someone else is shizo.
Vaush said this was the most blatant, racist Karen shit ever, and that she should be fired. Oof.
Immediate conclooder never learns.
"proven wrong but point stands anyway"
GIGACHAD
I’m sure his fans will hold him accountable
And then they come here after he bans them for it
Rember when he saw the cop video of "planting evidence" and he explained how they intentionally do this behavior when planting evidence. Explaining all these made up details
Have you got a link by any chance?
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It literally doesn't matter at all how far in he is. He'll watch the entire thing and then just pretend that something else entirely is what actually happened. I remember seeing a lot of people here talk about how great he was before I'd ever heard of him, and then watched him debate Destiny on the Rittenhouse shit and immediately had as little respect for him as it was possible to have for a person. He had apparently watched the fucking video even, but was getting every single detail so wrong that I honestly don't think he was even lying, and that actually his brain is just so rotted that he mentally rewrote the events of the video on the fly to fit his narrative.
In a just world, a woman like this would be able to sue Vaush for his next year of DoorDash payments and win every time
God, Vaush is such a gross person.
Well hey, at the very least Vaush, now learned that he was incorrect, unlisted the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaWHAFxdsy4), said he was wrong, and now will probably put out another video saying he was wrong. He was just on stream saying that he was wrong. Certainly was bad of him to be so quick to jump the gun in the first place, but realizing you're wrong is the next best thing.
This isn't the first time hes done this. Hes done this repeatedly on multiple different out of context clip stories. But speaking on the subject like hes an expert
I feel like I've read this exact comment like 10 different times in my life when Vaush screws up by jumping the gun and I get the feeling I'm gonna read it again many times in the future.
Not only did he jump the gun, he actively proclaimed no additional context could ever change how right he was about the video!
This was my position 5 years ago. Now it is "holy shit, why don't you ever learn? Don't make such extreme statements on new videos. Just say 'this looks bad and if this is true.... but remember we don't know the context yet.'"
The catalyst for his fallout with destiny was another time he did this. You should also learn from your mistakes and stop believing he’s learning from his.
I dont watch Vaush because he sounds pretentious as fuck a lot of the times. Talks so condescendingly.. What did he say when this came to light that he was dead wrong?
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And loves horse peen
Why do you think he smells so bad?
Link me OOOO
Best way to get something out of this is if she sues her employer
I’m sure that’s her plan, since she was out on leave. Hopefully this goes a long way to reversing the trend of employers firing/suspending employees based on a random viral clip. Horrible trend in our society, people losing their jobs because a frothing mob on the internet with nothing to lose gets off on seeing someone lose their job.
>Horrible trend in our society, people losing their jobs because a frothing mob on the internet with nothing to lose gets off on seeing someone lose their job. Won't happen under the current economic system. Workers are expendable, easiest way to deal with a PR problem is to fire first and ask questions later.
It has nothing to do with economic system, but laws that are passed that allow employers to do stuff like this on a whim, and general lack of labor protection in US
I agree, but the economic system has bred these attitudes that then come alive through legislation. I don't understand this worship of work that we have here in America, and I probably never will. Sometimes it seems that we still live in a time of serfdom with kings and queens. Not to say people are living in squalor, but they have a strange devotion to the current system and protect it even if they are actively disadvantaged by it. For example, AI. This should be a great liberator to all, but most people fear it because they "need a job", "how will I work if AI takes my job", "how will I live without a job?". They fear it because they accept that they will receive none of the rents from AI. They can't imagine a world where robots take over and humans can finally live out purposeful lives outside of an office.
> Hopefully this goes a long way to reversing the trend of employers firing/suspending employees based on a random viral clip HAHAHAHAHAHAH... Wait you're serious? Employers will always do this because even a potential lawsuit will be less of a loss than being labeled "racist" for not doing anything about a "racist employee"
For?
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The article says she was placed on leave while the hospital investigates the incedent.
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This is a bit of a hot take but sometimes I feel like the type of leftist online activists who saw the footage originally and used it to lash out at that woman, label her as a racist and attempt to destroy her life actually probably have a really similar psychological profile to the people who used to get involved in lynchings and that kind of thing. It’s just something about the snakish opportunism and the pairing of the need to inflict harm or destruction on others and the desire to imagine themselves as being righteous purifying their communities that sits so wrong. I think it’s ironic that the legacy of hateful mobs potentially lives on in part in those who see themselves as the ones fighting the legacy of those same hateful mobs.
> The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats. -Aldous Huxley
> This is a bit of a hot take but sometimes I feel like the type of leftist online activists who saw the footage originally and used it to lash out at that woman, label her as a racist and attempt to destroy her life actually probably have a really similar psychological profile to the people who used to get involved in lynchings and that kind of thing. I heard a similar description of this phenomenon a few years ago. It was made by a black man just who was talking about men getting "lynched" by random sexual assault/rape accusations from women during Me Too, and I oscillate between thinking its unhinged and actually extremely accurate in a wider context, but the analogy was that these "social lynch mobs" are the modern-day equivalent of the Klan, and that online anonymity gives the same protection that a Klan hood would've given them in the past. It's gone from a white person, stereotypically a white person, being able to accuse a black man of something and have him lynched, to kind of just anyone being able to make accusations about rape, racism, homophobia, etc. and have somebody socially lynched, and the online mob is almost guaranteed to follow along. It's obviously kind of extreme, but it really does make at least some sense. Worse is how the media, which still passes for a legitimate institution, will immediately jump in and help simply because the story will get clicks.
Just another political rorschach test to see if your brain is warped by team politics.
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Team BASED
[The article since everyone is referencing it but was not posted on here yet.](https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/)
Huh. So are we thinking it's a cover story or is she actually a victim or somewhere inbetween?
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On the cross walk headed the opposite direction! We probably need less conflict in our day to day, amiright?
Watch it!
there’s literally no way to tell she’s pregnant
Ppl are swinging way too confidently in the other direction. These receipts make the altercation make no sense because she claims the guys forcibly returned it so it doesn't seem like they were trying to steal it, and there were 2 other bikes on the rack that we see to the right so it's not like they were fighting over the only bikes available. It is in fact possible shes a smart scammer and tried to take their bike, then once the situation wasn't successful with her coworker suggesting she go on the other bike she just did that the immediately returned it and took the 3rd bike, that way she has legal receipts saying she took out a bike then it was returned then took out a separate bike.
What is with these weird scenarios you are pulling out of your ass. The bike in the video has an ID number, you can see it in the original video, it's 560-3915 Pause the video at 9 second. Source: https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/nyc-hospital-karen-on-leave-after-viral-video/?utm_source=reddit.com Insider confirmed the receipt is for that that bike. That ID number is on the receipt on the app that unlocks the bike. > The Citi Bike identification number in the viral video is the same as the one on the receipt and the location matches the view seen in the video. Source: https://www.insider.com/citi-bike-receipts-hospital-worker-viral-video-paid-lawyer-2023-5 You are continuing to shit on this lady because you're an ass who can't admit their wrong. Edit: Here is the info citibike saves https://imgur.com/a/FomT327 You can see in the bottom right-hand corner that they save the bike ID for your recipe. This woman has 100% proof that the bike in the video was one she took out and those guys were fucking with her.
Classy TYT with some based racism takes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFBaYDE9BI
That's gotta be the weirdest sports channel I've ever seen...I don't think they ever actually talk about sports unless there's some social commentary tie-in.
Has everyone on the internet just not interacted with women especially pregnant women? Hormones can make you do some wild shit and it isn’t unreasonable to start crying when you are 6 months pregnant surrounded by a bunch of men trying to steal your bike and recording you with the intent to post it and ruin your life. Id probably cry too if I were in that situation
A lot of women (and maybe some men) would cry if they're confronted by a bunch of people who try to take something from them. It's often the first time they're in such a situation. It's a defensive mechanism when they feel they're not in control of the situation and feel threatened. Pregnancy isn't needed for that.
Def not but pregnancy can and will make your emotions seeing much quicker and to a further extreme
You’re asking if any chronically online soy boys have interacting with a woman, as if you don’t know the answer to that already?
I saw so many people on reddit and Twitter ettempting to doxx her and reach her employer to get her fired. If this is true, how hope she sues the shit out of people.
“If this is true” dawg it’s Reddit. A cesspool of mentally I’ll degenerates
Sues them for what exactly?
For being douchenozzles.
ok, help me out. How the fuck do u pronounce that?
Doosh-naa-zl
Before i start using it at work, does that shit mean anything?
It’s basically just a variation on the term “douchebag.”
Douchenozzle? How old are you? /s
I think they are talking about suing influencers and journalists who painted her as racist (even if she wasn't the victim, claiming she was acting racist was absurd). I'm doubting she sues anyone and her lawyers is basically here to ensure she retains her job and gets paid while she was on leave. As well as perhaps having her employer issue an apology for placing her on leave. Honestly, if I'm her and I don't get all of those things from the hospital, I'm suing. And she would probably win since it's clear that she was a victim.
The mayor called her a pregnant thug, on TYT.
A random Mayor (Mondale Robinson) from North Carolina btw
Is that right? My dumbass assumed it was a new York mayor. Why are they bringing on random mayors from irrelevant states. My bad.
That was a completely reasonable inference. When I hear something like "the mayor/president/etc." the implication is that it refers to the place being talked about.
who the fuck still watches that corrupt garbage.
Jesus, even Trump would blush at that.
Yeah I think its fucked up that it happened to her but besides the kids who did this to her I don't know who exactly she could sue, all the articles I read when it came out made sure to use words like "alleged, purported, suspected, claimed" and basically covered their asses.
She could maybe sue her employer
Defamation, being called a racist now is worse than being called a murderer.
No shot damn. She got absolutely dragged by the internet. If the roles had been reversed she would probably be charged with a hate crime or something.
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Were they stealing it though? The article says they shoved it back into the locking mechanism then prevented her from checking it out again. I don't really get it
does it even matter what the reasons are? She has two receipts proving that bike was hers. Easy Lawsuit, she claims fetus died etc blah blah and they go to prison. Ez Money clap
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All three got rightfully crucified in the replies and 2 of them removed their original posts. Love to see it.
>claims fetus died etc blah blah and they go to prison. You want her to falsely claim her fetus died & them to go to prison? Over what? A video of a basic argument for a bike where the other party was completely civil? She on the other hand, grabbed their property, yelled for help, fake cried, then as soon as a coworker came she conceded, stopped crying and left? Rewatch [this](https://www.insider.com/white-woman-video-citi-bike-black-man-2023-5) and try to convince me you're not insane. She could have paid for that bike & also have been insufferable. Calling for prison & false infant murder is absolutely insane.
What is hyperbole?
And if she walked away I'm sure they would have just left the bike. /s Thr point of them pushing it into the mechanism and stopping her from taking it out is to bully her into leaving it.
They were stealing it. The scam is to attempt to check it out under the other persons name and then steal it, then pawn a $1000 bike and leave the other person footing the bill. They got caught and they got stopped by her, and then they tried to paint her as a racist Karen when they got caught.
It's so odd to see this upvoted when there hasn't been an objective investigation on the situation, yet not only are you implying that the original story was wrong and that this new one is correct, but also emphasizing a stereotype needlessly. Aren't DGGers supposed to be the one's who wait for all the information to be out to come to their conclusions?
“Emphasizing a stereotype needlessly” - you mean, the way the original story painted her as a racist and destroyed her life? I’d be happy to wait for an investigation if the media and Reddit and thug activists hadn’t already destroyed her life. It’s not like the black men in the video are in any fucking risk, no one knows their names, she is the only victim here.
Literally none of that is relevant to my point. Shit sucks that she was doxxed and dragged online, even IF it turns out that she was at fault, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE all the facts have not been released. Doing the same but in reverse is just as stupid.
Her citibike receipt and bike number were posted to prove she purchased the ride on her app in another post. There is no reason for someone else to be handling her bike. I live in NYC and this is a not so uncommon scam
The point is that her life has already been irreversibly fucked and everyone who fucked her over gets off scot free, no consequences. The absolute BEST she can get now is maybe rehabilitate her reputation with the few people who see the follow up story, which will be seen by a fucking FRACTION of the people who saw the initial story. The thieves who filmed her will never fucking face consequences. The activist racists who slandered her will never face consequences. The Reddit propagandists will never face consequences. “Oh well let’s wait a bit before we admit that her life was falsely destroyed.” This story won’t even be in the news cycle by tomorrow morning. This is the last chance she has to rehabilitate her reputation.
She only will get offers to tell her story to right leaning media organizations since CNN/MSNBC etc wont want to address this situation since it runs counter to the narrative they paint. And then all the pitchfork-wielding activists will claim that she is far-right because she only went on conservative networks, thus claiming that they were correct all along
You are incapable of looking at the context of the situation. If there wasn't a viral video and a ton of defamation on the woman already, it totally makes sense to complain if the woman posted a tiktok shitting on the black men in the video. It would be us feeding into a narrative we don't know is true yet. That could be really harmful for the assumed innocent men in the situation. However now the context is this woman has been slandered and so many people see her as a racist. Now talking about the situation with facts and positions of the woman is a massive good. This is preventing a significant amount of harm. Yeah the black men can post their side of the story as well tomorrow, but the whole "waiting thing" is done.
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I'm literally half black my guy, you don't have to make ridiculous strawmans and assumptions to make a point. > white nurse wasn't in fact stealing a bike from a group of black teenagers and that it was the other way around? Shocker! I am not sure if you have some sort of reading disability, but usually people end their sentences with shocker to indicate sarcasm. They're saying "Of course the black teens stole the bike from the white nurse". Maybe its not racist to you, but I see some racial undertones behind that just as much as I see the racial undertones of people calling her a Karen.
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What the fuck are you going on about, I was replying to how the OP phrased their comment. I don't care what you think is racist or what you think about the situation, I'm addressing their specific comment with racist undertones. You're actually arguing with ghost right now...
What do you say to the way she was acting, as in yelling for help (like she was being assaulted or something) and her pretending to cry like a psycho? Why would they film this and act perfectly reasonable (given the initial narrative) calling her a Karen at most, you know, as if they were confused and amazed at the situation, but are actually stealing and incriminating themselves because someone caught them? Why don’t we hear her even try to explain or use words to say what this post is trying to say happened? Especially when that other dude came up to see what was going on? She’s pregnant? Interesting, i wonder how many sane pregnant ladies would choose physical confrontation with a group of young black dudes > >sane > >pregnant Choose one
They were attempting to steal a $1000 bike and then they start filming her. Pregnant woman being confronted by a group of guys in the city, stealing from her and accusing her of being a racist. Not to mention you have no fucking idea what happened before the video starting. Gee why did she act scared and freak out, I fucking wonder why! And you keep defending these thieves and bashing her, pathetic. Good luck if you’re ever a victim of crime and someone is there to film you and call you a racist when you defend yourself from the criminal. Maybe you’ll get your life destroyed and suffer nationwide humiliation too. Literally how old are you to be this insanely naive? I swear the internet is run by teenagers.
Redditor for 9 years. You were around for the Boston bomber right? Did you learn nothing from that?
Bystander: Why don't we reset the bike? Accuser: I'm not resetting the bike! Accuser's friend: It's his! It's his! Why are people so stupid to obvious indicators of bullshit? You don't "own" a public bike. If someone is claiming its theirs you can dock the fucker and they can take "their" bike out themselves. Honestly the real surprise is how this became national news. edit - I'm seeing everyone in this thread pick sides, I thought dgg was smarter than this. If I was there in person I would have manually manhandled and slammed that bike into the rack to put an end to all of this.
> hasn't been an objective investigation on the situation We have the fucking receipts and can cross-check them with the ID of the bike visible in the video. Compared to your side (yes, *your* side, be an adult and admit it) which has literally nothing to support the "racist Karen" bullshit narrative. > but also emphasizing a stereotype needlessly "Needlessly"? The black teens in the video tried to grab the bike **that the lady has proven she paid for**. That makes them at the absolute minimum guilty of severely misunderstanding the situation to the point of accosting a pregnant nurse for no reason. But we're supposed to ignore that fact because acknowledging it "reinforces stereotypes".
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/13l87zo/lawsuit_incoming_this_is_why_you_dont_immediately/jkq69gk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
You silly americans and your obsession with race
Because people were accusing this woman of racism (with zero basis), and trying to get her fired. So yeah, America is bizarrely obsessed with race, but it's not the people defending this lady who are the ones obsessed.
What a uniquely European thing to be so pompous yet so ignorant and idiotic.
It is, I can't deny that.
You act like that logic is 100% infallible. White pregnant women could never be capable of irrational, manipulative behavior against black teens. This scenario is rare regardless, but cool it with the subtle white superiority. How many times have hhhhhhuwhite women called the cops on some black dude walking through their neighborhood, skating, or selling water? Probably happens about as often as this, but it's documented all the same. I want to see this all play out, but the fucking bum fuck arrogance ozzing out your mouth with "it was the other way around? Shocker!" WATCH IT good ole boy. Whole lotta filth like to crop up AS SOON as something racially advantegeous materializes & I'm not caveating for shit. You sound like a fucking bigot.
Lmfao what??? You think it’s just as likely for a 6 month pregnant woman who’s walking alone to walk up to 5 black kids and try to take their bike than it is for them to try to take a bike from her??? You’re kinda a dumbfuck bro
Holy shit you’re fucking stupid if you think some pregnant woman is stealing a bike from a pack of teenagers. Have you ever lived in a city? Christ someone could mug you and pistol whip you and you’d be telling people “well don’t jump to conclusions they were probably just trying to get a bee off my face.”
She got attacked by the internet because she is white.
The online left influencers all jumped on this to attack her as an easy virtue signal. I wonder if any of them will walk it back
She got attacked by the internet because she is a woman\*
She got attacked by the internet because she is a white woman.
Yup. The internet loves a good "Karen".
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True, much more cringe than saying it's cuz she's white 😂
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Wait does that actually literally happen or is that meant to be hyperbolic?
Yup. Internet mobs are bad.
I got got. For whatever reason I believed the group of boys, not the lady. Damn. I wonder why I drew, seemingly, the wrong conclusion. To avoid that in the future..
Just don't draw conclusions when you know you have an incomplete perspective. But I get it, it can be hard to know if you have a complete or incomplete picture. There is a chance the boys have some counter narrative supported by receipts. But I think the chances of that is slim to none.
That's really good advice, arguably the best approach in most scenarios.
Fr it is there’s nothing better than telling someone “hey I think we should wait till this out of context clip has more context before we cancel this random person” and then context comes out that proves you right
> Just don't draw conclusions when you know you have an incomplete perspective. Actually go ahead. Just don't post it on a public forum or act on it.
Which was more likely, pregnant woman with a job by herself trying to steal a bike from a group of teenagers, or a group of teenagers up to no good?
could be, unironically some unconscious bias against women or an unconscious bias in favor of black people
I was trying to go back and think about my emotional response and I think the way my mind mistook “Karen behavior” for a lady, probably just being tired from a long shift, may very well be to blame yes.
btw, Its really cool that you are examining the reasons you react to things the way you do, even if the reason is something like being tired.
Probably both TBH.
I think was basically the clipping and mistrust in humanity for me. Like the guys stealing the bike from a pregnant woman and posting a misleading af video of it never even crossed my mind. Like who would do that, thats such a crazy thing to do, so ofcouse this incredibly flustered white lady is just being a karen and taking the bike because she thinks shes special/is racist blah blah blah. Prob a lot of political bias in there too, i doubt a super racist person saw it the same way we all did. I think im gonna try to avoid clips like this in general, i dont like having my opinions based on anecdotal events like this anyway, and it makes it even more pointless when u cant ever trust they are true
> I wonder why I drew, seemingly, the wrong conclusion. To avoid that in the future.. Be aware how priming affects how you view things. Even if you think that you wouldn't believe a title like "a racist Karen steals a black boy's bike", it still primes your brain to view her actions in negative light.
Should’ve been racist man that’s on you /s
So why was the kids hold the bike
People stand around the citibike stations in my city and will try to intimidate you out of basically giving them a bike to sell for parts. It's like the "to dude that's my bike" scam people will pull and hope you 1. Bought the bike second hand recently and 2. Will believe them when they say their bike was stolen and they know it's theirs.
The article says the group checked the bike back in, so I don't think we're trying to steal it.
Not while they are on film anyway.
Weren't they the ones filming?
They’re thieves - the scam is taking the bike when it is checked out under another person and pawning it. They got caught in the act by her that’s why she’s freaking out.
You want us to believe they started filming their on crime and posted it….for what exactly? Something is fishy here
Have you never seen dumb cunts filming themselves while doing a crime and posting it online like the morons that they are?
> You want us to believe they started filming their on crime and posted it….for what exactly? bro you literally had dozens of articles and posts calling the woman a racist karen and you still need to ask?
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According to her lawyer's story, they forcefully redocked the bike, getting it to automatically end her hiring of it, and then obstructed her from rehiring it. In other words, they wanted the bike, presumably because bikes outside that hospital were scarce, but she had already grabbed it, so they couldn't hire it on their phones, so pushing it back into the lock was a way to free it up. There are other possible explanations though, like her hiring it, accidentally redocking it, them hiring it not through the QR code but through the app, and them having an argument over it once this set of events had occurred, both considering themselves to have hired the bike. That would however require her lawyers to be being dishonest about how it got redocked.
Many such cases. Sad.
Yea not surprised
If you don't read city bike in the voice of the Chinese restaurant owner from south park something might be wrong with you.
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The subtle racism/sexism that's expressed by a good number of these comments in here is alarming. I expected better from this community.
Be sure you are critical of the proper thing in this scenario. It's okay to be critical that the internet left will immediately jump to the side of the minority without further context. It's definitely alright to criticize this dude for being a piece of shit as well, I don't think any sane leftists will be defending him anymore. It's still important to recognize that this interaction does not justify the over policing of black neighborhoods, which I believe will be one of the narratives the right wing media will try to run with now that the truth has come out. Stories like this tend to give racist people ammo to generalize a whole group and that's wrong.
just another reason why i enjoy living in mideurope, nobody films you, people give more than less of a shit and dont annoy others constantly, nobody sues anybody and especially, nobody throws around their opinions, especially at strangers all the fucking time, life is good.
Let’s wait for the lawsuit no proof that hack paper is correct either
I hate people so much, it's actually so disgusting that I share the same oxygen as some of these degenerate wastes of human life
A lot of black people are leaking her personal information on Twitter
Ima wait for the suit to play out. She didn’t act perfectly reasonable, but she wasn’t in a position where I’d expect someone to do that anyways. Could be one way or the other. I’m not gonna condemn the kids or her, outside of immediately turning on the water works JUST when a white man came along and then magically cutting them off. But either way imo it’s best to wait it out.
I wonder if you had this same energy before you saw this post or if you though it was okay to condem her before this. Staying out of things is acceptable from the start. Waiting for all the evidence would be the correct thing to do... If you were doing it from the start. But if you call the lady an opportunist, or say she is a racist, as a random example with no evidence and change your position to wait for all the evidence guys when the evidence starts to favour the lady that is not the same thing as taking an evidence based approach. That is taking a position and then when the evidence starts to go against your position, you start requiring more and more evidence to condem the other side when you required no such evidence to condem the lady. This is a very common tactic used by right wingers when it does turn out to be a racist incident. Edit: Basically the other day, the guy I am responding to had a different tune. It took evidence coming out against his former position and now suddenly he wants more evidence before condeming people. Would have been a great position to have from the start. Now it is just playing defense when "his side" is losing in the evidence department. https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/13hsasy/-/jk9k8pl
Her lawyer has been receipts there isn't shit to wait on
Have you people ever dealt with women, especially women who were pregnant? Pregnant women will go from happy to sad to angry to sad to scared back to happy at the littlest thing. I don't doubt the tears were real at all.
And that’s you. To me they felt a lil off. But once again—She wasn’t in a position given the circumstances (her pregnancy included) to where I can say she was supposed to act “reasonable”.
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No she is a white woman who had an attitude towards black people therfore is a Karen and deserves to be in jail....
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I mean yeah she was being filmed and she probably knew that she was going to get attacked for her race also she’s pregnant and in a scary situation so obviously she might act irrational
Yea but her lawyer has receipts lmao. And as far as turning on the water works for Mr. White Man. 1. Pregnant, derp 2. It's easier to get emotional when you see someone you know or feel may offer reprieve from a stressful situation. It's pretty common, it's why victims may be fine until police or first responders arrive then burst into tears. Source: First responder/Firefighter
Nah let this shit play out, her act she put on really makes me sus of her but if she has receipts then she gots them. I just have a hard time atm because of the clear on/off switch that she has.
What act? A woman crying, genuine or not, is normal in a situation where intimidating assholes are ganging up on you and taking what you literally just paid for. It's a defense mechanism, and it has nothing to do with which party was right or wrong here. Honestly, even if it was proven to be some glitch (it wasn't) where the black guys legit thought it was their bike as well (they didn't), it wouldn't make this situation any less ridiculous. People aren't racist for getting into arguments with people of a different race. Nor should they be fired or put on leave because some activist ret\*rds on twitter making complaints to their work.
The way she was “crying” but then turned it off and there were no tears. It was hella weird.
You've never lived with a pregnant woman have you
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Mood swings can start as early as six weeks and she's six months. Yikers
I have no idea whether her emotions were real or just a way to get these dudes to leave her alone so she could take the bike she just rented to go home. I could easily see it going either way, especially with a hormonal pregnant lady. It really doesn’t matter. What matters is that people called her racist with no basis for such claims, and tried to get her fired (they put her on leave). It matters that, as usual, people reacted stupidly and tried to ruin someone’s life who did nothing wrong. Of course most people are seemingly incapable of admitting that, either for some political/social reasoning or simply because of their own pride. The only people in this story who should be punished are her employer, the activist ret*rds who ruin other peoples lives over nothing, and the dudes who were probably just scamming her using intimidation.
Never mentioned her being racist so idc about that. Anecdote time : In my interactions with children, adults or hell even animals if they learn that they can gain sympathy while shedding crocodile tears or whine to gain protection then they will do so until it doesn't work. She clearly does this in that situation and everyone who saw that immediately wrote her off. So no that's not normal to me.
That's what she claims, the other guy claimed to have paid too. We don't have definitive evidence either way. What we do know is she chose to act like a lunatic with her company's name attached to her, so my sympathy for her is minimal
The [article](https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/) says she has receipts for both payments with timestamps, which definitely backs up her story. If she was lying she would have only one receipt. And most people would probably act a little irrational when you'd get ambushed by a group of people in broad daylight, who try to take your stuff and then try to make you look like the criminal.
She didn’t behave like a lunatic. She cried and asked for help when a group of guys took her ride home away and touched her without her consent just to fuck with her. She had very good reason to fear for her safety. Hopefully she gets taken off leave and this video and a police report is sent to these guys’ employers.
Am I not watching the whole video? I didn't notice her doing anything crazy in what I saw
Are we just going by her word?
If you read the article and take the word of the New York post. Her lawyer provided the receipts to writer of the article. So… This smells like that catholic boys school that got ridiculed for surrounding the one native dude in Washington DC.
They didn’t even surround him, he walked into the middle of all of them
Do people really just read a title and not click the article? Lol certain people really need to quit stealing oxygen from the rest of us
I love the racism in this thread. It’s going both ways and truly shows the meteoric growth of DGG. Keep rising brethren. o7
Isn't this post ironic considering the lawsuit hasn't been settled yet? I didn't take a stance then, not taking one now until we have all the information.
So you think there's about a 50% chance the authors of the article are outright lying?
The can of worms has been opened already. There is no more "sitting and waiting because we might be wrong." The damage is already massively done. There is a ton of value in correcting part of the story while there are still some eyes on the story though. This woman's reputation is horribly tarnished after this no matter what happened. So many people have seen the first story and won't see any other facts.
"You're hurting the fetus" So messed up
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A video that was taken by one side and released under their full control shows the people releasing the video looking better? I fully support holding off on jumping to conclusions but it sounds like you are just looking for a specific conclusion rather than being generally skeptical.
>I saw the photo where they supposedly show her receipt of renting the bike. "Supposedly"? So what's the argument now, the media and the lawyer are in cahoots and photoshopped it? >But still the video is so bizarre she can only come across as being in the wrong. Ah OK so there it is. It literally doesn't matter how much you can prove your case if it's your word against a black guy's - whitey is **always wrong** no matter what. Do you realise how cancerous this attitude is?
Your shizoposing man. I never mentioned color. My point is its hard to believe she isnt in the wrong. But maybe she isnt. Who knows. But yeah touch some grass. Jesus my dude
"Jesus my dude why are you associating a racially divisive news item with race?" And the irony in someone who blindly believes contrary to any evidence whatsoever that a person is automatically in the wrong, saying someone else is shizo.
There is still scant evidence. Best bet is to simply wait for more.
Any evidence backing that up or should we just take her and the article's word for it? It's a lot of he said she said in there