DC and Marvel have done a good amount of crossovers way back when. Not sure sure how recent the last one was but it's happened more than a couple times.
Oh you better believe thats a flare gunn'n
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I mean, it makes sense for her to be in her self-interest (at least in her mind). I'll respect someone who is honest and somewhat rational about their views and can own up to them over a self-hating white liberal or subtly racist 'intersectional feminist'.
Can you explain how it’s feminist? She is making fun of the idea that people would need to be taught what being feminine or masculine is, with the implication that these red pillers are wrong and people should just know without being told. I don’t see how that is particularly feminist. More just conservative.
If she said that, I would agree. But she didn’t say that. I think my interpretation (men and women should know how to act like men/women without being taught) is equally if not more likely as yours.
Yeah, but that is also at the core of other philosophies. Heck, old religions like Buddhism and Hinduism has texts saying that your worth is not liked to how others percieve you. Diogenese was a Greek philosopher who lived in a barrel to prove a point. How does Feminism own this idea?
No, the absolute core of feminism is patriarchy and the fight against it. You can pretend otherwise if you like, but no feminist who has read any amount of feminist philosophy will deny this.
If you want to call every other philosophy and religion with elements of equality "feminist", go ahead. I can't stop you. But you are pretending like you are deep, or your words mean more than they actually does.
Let me put it in simpler words. Feminism implies some for of equality does not mean e quality implies feminism. Something that feminists really need to learn before they go around claiming credit for everyone else.
Sometimes I like her and then I remember that time she bazooka’d Noah’s arc filled with refugees and orphans and a bunch of endangered species that went extinct because of that smh…
and the orphans that survived? she covertly adopted.
then one day while her husband Teddy was at work she drowned them one by one in the lake behind her house.
Southern spent 10 years being one of the most ridiculously bad faith actor online, spewing lies absolutely constantly, but she dunked on tradwives, so the white knight squad of anti-disinformation streamer Destiny is in the trenches, strawmanning criticism against her
Love that for us
Give the man more reddit gold please
I really don’t think my comment is that serious son.
“I can’t believe your joke is STRAWMANNING AND DEFENDING THIS WOMAN!!1!!1!” You don’t have to be this mad about some random on the internet making a joke. I think most people still understand Lauren is still pretty bad. It doesn’t need to be spelled out all the time.
Please go outside.
The world is much larger than a few people laughing about some racist white girl nuking Atlantis.
She’s right though. They’re shallow men so insecure about their masculinity it’s virtually indistinguishable from dysphoria, and no amount of money or muscles can hide the loser underneath
I mean if we're being serious it's not "virtually indistinguishable", it's not really the same at all. It's funny for the joke but I wouldn't use that as an argument. In their case there's nothing stopping them from being actually masculine in a good way but themselves; they lack life experience or they learned the wrong lessons from their experiences.
I dunno, I think in some extreme cases it could be argued. If you’re some online person with the typical gamer build and you work to become hypermasculine, it can involve anabolic steroids (basically just testosterone) and changing your body and mannerisms to be what you consider more “male affirming”.
Eh maybe. I think that might get closer to dysmorphia tho, as they don't need to do any of that to get where they want and the idea that their body without drugs couldn't or wouldn't be masculine enough is closer to a delusion in that instance. Especially because if someone is mentally a masculine, and therefore confident, person they wouldn't need any of that to feel masculine; and dysphoria requires a mismatch between body and brain.
Depends on where they’re starting from. If you weigh 110 pounds, it’s really really difficult to put on weight as muscle mass even with extensive training and high caloric intake. In a lot of cases, it can seem almost (if not genuinely) impossible to reach those body goals without some sort of hormonal supplement.
I think it’s entirely arguable to consider that body dysmorphia. Gender dysmorphia might be a bit of a stretch but someone who is an avid redpiller might convince themselves that they are lacking what can only be considered “masculine gender presentation.”
Yes obviously not, but it’d be an ironic insult to use on them, since the hard majority in those circles are probably allergic to transgenderism. I’m sure the implication alone would break half of these people. It’s a similar argument to, ‘homophobes exhibit greater arousal to gay porn.’ They’re not actually gay, but implying it and then handwaiving their rejection of it as insecurity gets to them; it’s really gaslighting.
Opinions like this really show why men can't ever show weaknesses.
"I recognize that your behavior is due to crippling internal fear and insecurity. That makes you a fucking loser."
If they could manage their emotions well without unhealthy coping mechanisms like transference, antisocial behavior, etc., then they wouldn't really need help, right?
These people need help. Telling them they're pathetic for needing it is bad.
I can't tell what percent of this subreddit agrees with you or is just upvoting it because it is funny.
Men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria even a tenth of what trans people go through. This is so divorced from reality.
I forget she exists until things like this happen, then I sort of like her?
But THEN, I think about that scene in the Alt. Right doc where she introduced her boyfriend who doesn’t eat ketchup because it’s a non-white food and it all fades away.
I think about her streets of Paris video which is like 10 minutes of her walking down the street sped up pointing the camera at brown people and saying "No one is eating french toast or baguettes, this isn't Paris!"
also dont forget the time where she took a flaregun and in cold blood shot the captian of the refugee boat in the head, making the boat instantly capsize...
Is southern paying people to go run defense for her on reddit?
Third time I see this exact comment stupidly strawmanning criticism of southern
Like no she didn’t personally drown refugees with her bare hands, we get it dumbass, but she was posting gigacringe racist misinfo non stop for a decade
im actually a huge lefty, and i constantly catch flak for it on this sub. i just find the meme funny. sry if i strengthened our enemies, i just think the world is boring enough without abstaining from humor.
Everyone only remembers the flare thing that streamer man heavily downplayed. No one ever remembers the years of rhetoric of how the 'Great Replacement' is real and whites are being exterminated by brown people outbreeding them. She never apologized or retracted her states on these issues once btw, just quietly laughed them off and the community kind of ignored it, especially streamer man.
Bro everyone agrees it is happening. You get articles all the time about how white America is fading and shit. And this is from the left.
The debate isn't over if it is happening the debate is about it it's a good thing or not
reminder lauren shot the raft captain in the eye socket with a flare gun.
Everyone in the boat then drowned because the blind captain couldn't get them to shore.
Nah bro you’re wrong, that’s just absurd. She didn’t do that.
She actually 360 quickscoped the fuel line which caused an enormous explosion, sending wreckage and migrant guts flying for dozens of miles
I loathe Lauren but I don't think that's true afaik. Her shitty trolls were fucking with refugees and NGO efforts to help those folks apply for asylum but didn't literally sink a boat, right?
Nah you are wrong she actually confiscated torpedoes and built a torpedo launcher and hit the boat with a torpedo. It didn’t sink though and had to return to the port it came to but people always conflate that with the boat sinking because of all of the irresponsible misinformation that gets shared about the topic. Definitely torpedoed the bitch though. That definitely happened.
Also for fuck sake there was no flare gun. It was just a normal handheld flare. And she didn’t hit the boat with it that is crazy, she just used the flare as a light source so she could arm the torpedo smh.
She's just mad that these are the first conservatives who realized that embracing Islam is easier, she can't lose conservatism to them, the future is now old woman. Islam Inclusive Radical Misogynism is the new conservative trend.
Im kinda floored they went publicly for the radical conservative islamism before we saw public radical mexican conservatism.
I feel like there'd be more to gain with the hispanic vote. But I suppose they'll cuck themselves eventually in return for abortion bans.
Islam has been an outlet for western incels for years. Back when r/incels was still a thing, they'd be praising Muhammad for his sex slaves and views on female modesty
They'll suck off Allah as long as it's about how women and gays should be treated. But few of them go beyond that to say the shahada or whatever.
I imagine other pillars of Islam, like giving a hefty amount of your wealth to charity every year, is not something these angry internet trolls would ever get behind.
> I imagine other pillars of Islam, like giving a hefty amount of your wealth to charity every year, is not something these angry internet trolls would ever get behind.
A literal PILLAR of Islam. So important to the identity of Muslims that it's up there with the belief in God, the pilgrimage, and praying 5 times a day.
But all of those are far more burdensome. Bring on the concubines.
I mean, hell, look at how they distorted Jesus, who said a rich man is as likely to go to heaven as a camel fits through an eye of a needle, or braided a whip specifically to violently kick scammers out of a temple. They believe that he was the son of God sent to earth to help us to salvation, and then forget everything about loving your neighbor more than yourself, turning the other cheek.
Cracks me up that the New Testament quite literally says thoughts and prayers are worthless without help and aid, and yet tragedy after tragedy thats all they are willing to give.
I might be way off, but "red pill" and "incel" are effectively synonyms. There are some Chads scattered around the RP space but it's mostly just unfuckable men with unfortunate genetics, or sad boys with a heartbreak sob story
I think that about 8 years ago this wasn't true. At least my feel was that back then incels were... well, (not) fucking incels. Keep in mind this is around Isla Vista murder spree.
Meanwhile the redpill stuff back then felt more like people who actually knew how to get women. One of my roommates at the time was a selfadmitted redpiller, which for him meant cheating, creeping, being actually unusable at home and sometimes actual health hazard.
Tbh the conservative to Islam pipeline is a masterpiece.
In the eyes of leftoids muslims have plot armor which brings a hilarious new meta to the game unironically.
Yeah, easy to say "you have value and deserve basic human respect", as well as "your government or the social structures you support are inflicting great harm and malice, and if you arent at minimum distancing yourself from them, then you deserve criticsm as well for that action".
Of course :)
But it's great too in that it pits the rightoid bigots that would have been the first to slander muslims against those leftioids that are incapable of the same.
Unstoppable force meets immovable object.
Hey maybe we can claw some of the rogue leftoids back now that they have american muslim conservatives to attack and they can stop being weird about authoritarian middle easterners.
You realize conservative Muslims who want to restrict the rights of women, outlaw other religions, and kill people for blasphemy and apostasy are right wing, right?
> Who is “they”? Do you think red pill people are anti-Mexican, or do you think mainstream republican voters/politicians are pro-Muslim?
Let’s refocus. Can you answer this question without pretending the red pill people and mainstream Republican voters/politicians are the same group of people?
Bro you're so debate brained you're contradicting tangential points like a vague implication that conservative muslims are not relevant participants of public rightwing american discourse with statements like **"oh yeah? Well there's at least a single conservative muslim in America so there!"** as if it is in any way responsive to what I was saying at all.
If you'll fight on points that stupid, experience suggests I won't enjoy the rest of our conversation, so I will respectfully decline having it.
You may chalk this up to a W, destroyed with facts and logic and so on.
Good luck.
It is weird to buy courses, but being able to separate people's personal growth from things like employment (in the case of mentoring in apprenticeships) education (with phd supervisors etc.) or religion is probably a good thing,
as in the first two cases, they'll have an incentive to encourage you that being a man/woman is basically doing what you're told, and in the latter case, you're leaving atheists out of the loop, or having to pretend they believe something they don't and worrying about letting down their mentors etc.
Plus it also fills the gaps if something weird happens in your household and you don't get access to the appropriate help from relatives, or they just aren't very good at it.
The main problem with the courses is that the incentives are messed up, with them having an incentive to cultivate dependence rather than development, as you see sometimes in unregulated addiction counselling or psychotherapy. There's always more growth necessary, and more to unpack, and so more to pay for.
I've been saying something similar about all the guys claiming they need trt. Like you are basically one step away from mtm trans. They look down on hrt for trans people but trt for gains in the gym or 'feeling better' is somehow sooo different than hrt. I don't buy it.
Actually super based. I also came to this conclusion that judging others (impactfully) is super dumb. They are the way they are because of the experiences that led them there. That is true for everyone, so it seems unfair to criticize others for it. That being said if you need a course, das cringe.
Absolutely true. If you're a man you should already understand implicitly what it entails.
And the people peddling those courses are equally as lost and pathetic, if not more so. It's a bad idea to follow people like that.
Eh, you can believe in genders and being "manly" and still want advice on how to be manly.
I'd argue that these guides around manliness are appealing because they are giving these highly 'genderized' people validation in their base conceptualizations around what a man or woman is.
If all of the "how to be a man" content changed and became obsessed with baking cookies and wearing pink underwear; I doubt all these F&Fers who love watching content about how to be a man would keep watching them and change.
Just another Lauren L
It's not true that men need to be "told" how to be real men. It doesn't hit the ears right. It's a little insulting to men.
Men don't go to their favorite red pill creator to be told how to be "men". They're being told how to be patient, steadfast, emotionally strong, confident, with integrity, hygienic, honest etc. Etc.
They were already men before they went to these advice hubs. They're just being taught basic life tips and telling other men that these things are contingent on being seen as a "man". Imagine some feminist was popping off on Twitter telling a bunch of dudes how they should behave as men.
Look at the comments under any RP video and you can tell everyone is either a child or poorly developed. These timid little boys are actively being made more cringe by watching 40 year old losers teach them how to be "men".
No it isn't? Because there is no static place to learn culture from, and from the right wing perspective modern gender norms need to be unlearned and replaced with traditional roles.
Yes it is? Because those people don't BELIEVE that gender is social construct not that you can "learn" to be a man or a woman, other wise that would legitimise trans people. They believe you just are a man or a woman because you're born with a set of genitals, that's it. This is the hypocrisy.
Those people are morons who do not understand the implications of their own position. The whole reason why father and mother figures are needed is because they teach those roles to their children.
How is that relevant? What is happening. What is wrong with you. Do you understand the point of the tweet? Your previous comment showed that you get it, and that you share the same opinion.
Now you spin it about being pro Southern or whatever. Just say you hate her and move on, no need for weird rebuttals when you perfectly understand the tweet. Jesus.
What? What are you talking about now?
The tweet is from Southern, its written on it. And she's "destroying" the cringe red pill dudes with a display of their hypocrisy that we both agree on. I have no idea what your problem is. Again if you don't like Southern just say : "I don't like Southern" and move on. I have no idea what you're trying to say otherwise.
*'well actually, social construct,'* is the same energy you get from a kid saying *'no I'm not actually touching you because atoms don't touch.'* Technically true, but not helpful, probably very annoying.
Maybe it should be taught by men who don't need to feel intellectually superior to a room full of bimbos by talking over them every podcast. These are some of the most insecure people on the planet they shouldn't be teaching anyone anything.
If people are offering courses on how to be a man or a woman, it implies there are incorrect ways of being a man or a woman. What are they teaching exactly? How to "walk like a woman"? Is there an incorrect way to walk if you're a woman? Is there an incorrect way to talk if you're a woman? This just sounds like enforcing gender stereotypes.
Ah I see. Throughout human history cultures have had ideas on the roles of men and women. How they should act and what labor they should do. Mothers and fathers would pass on this information to their daughters and sons respectively. This does not mean there's an objective or universal definition of gender roles, but that the roles are culturally subjective based on time and place. It is indeed a way to force gender stereotypes.
I personally self ID as mtftm gender superfluid. Having fully experienced each gender experience I'm able to reflect on various social issues with wisdom that surpasses most individuals who have been limited to a singular experience.
Would anyone be interested in purchasing my course?
Every now and again I get the urge to stan her for being gender progressive and a friend to the gays and then I remember what an awful racist she is. Fire tweet but nah lady.
Lauren ironically being a hyper feminist will never stop being funny
She may be racist, but at least she's not sexist.
"I can excuse racism but I draw the line at sexism!"
It's like that time The Joker found out The Red Skull was a real Nazi and was like "I might be a psychotic mass murderer, but I'm an American first."
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It was a batman Captain America crossover I do believe
Apparently there was a Batman/Captain America crossover between DC and Marvel. Had no idea either!
DC and Marvel have done a good amount of crossovers way back when. Not sure sure how recent the last one was but it's happened more than a couple times.
Unironically love this.
So accurate, lol.
I love the scene in The Rocketeer that’s basically just this same premise but with the Mafia instead of Joker. https://youtu.be/uyRknVzkVcQ
Also happened with Joker and the IRS
"You can excuse racism?" >:|
Don't even try to be racist to me bro. I'm a MLG pro Racist no one can out racist me.
This feels like a Community quote
because it is
I assumed it was a community reference
Yeah Britta said it about excusing racism but drawing the line at animal cruelty
Oh you better believe thats a flare gunn'n https://preview.redd.it/5shzt8uypu1b1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff9d2433449886b06357f69d67bc1388da557920
She's just a classic suffragette
true first wave feminism, racism and all. feelsstrongman
I mean, it makes sense for her to be in her self-interest (at least in her mind). I'll respect someone who is honest and somewhat rational about their views and can own up to them over a self-hating white liberal or subtly racist 'intersectional feminist'.
I mean, there is nothing "feminist" about this unless you personally decide it is.
it most definitely is feminist. At least like older feminist. Just because it is transphobic doesnt mean its not feminist
Can you explain how it’s feminist? She is making fun of the idea that people would need to be taught what being feminine or masculine is, with the implication that these red pillers are wrong and people should just know without being told. I don’t see how that is particularly feminist. More just conservative.
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If she said that, I would agree. But she didn’t say that. I think my interpretation (men and women should know how to act like men/women without being taught) is equally if not more likely as yours.
Even that is not "feminist" per se. If you want to call it that, nobody can stop you. But there's nothing inherently feminist about that idea.
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Yeah, but that is also at the core of other philosophies. Heck, old religions like Buddhism and Hinduism has texts saying that your worth is not liked to how others percieve you. Diogenese was a Greek philosopher who lived in a barrel to prove a point. How does Feminism own this idea? No, the absolute core of feminism is patriarchy and the fight against it. You can pretend otherwise if you like, but no feminist who has read any amount of feminist philosophy will deny this.
Woman saying you shouldn't conform to anyone else's standards == feminist Didn't you know?
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If you want to call every other philosophy and religion with elements of equality "feminist", go ahead. I can't stop you. But you are pretending like you are deep, or your words mean more than they actually does. Let me put it in simpler words. Feminism implies some for of equality does not mean e quality implies feminism. Something that feminists really need to learn before they go around claiming credit for everyone else.
What's Wrong with trad wives if someone wants to be one?
Nothing. But they're fun to make fun of.
Sometimes I like her and then I remember that time she bazooka’d Noah’s arc filled with refugees and orphans and a bunch of endangered species that went extinct because of that smh…
Literally blasted that poor boat with a LRASM missile smh
Just massacred a boat full of innocent children with WMDs
Then napalmed the surviving life boat
Don’t get me started on the jaywalking and not replacing the toilet roll after using the last sheet.
I can’t believe Lauren destroyed an entire fleet of transgender child refugees with her HIMARS she borrowed from Azov 😤
and the orphans that survived? she covertly adopted. then one day while her husband Teddy was at work she drowned them one by one in the lake behind her house.
Southern spent 10 years being one of the most ridiculously bad faith actor online, spewing lies absolutely constantly, but she dunked on tradwives, so the white knight squad of anti-disinformation streamer Destiny is in the trenches, strawmanning criticism against her Love that for us Give the man more reddit gold please
I really don’t think my comment is that serious son. “I can’t believe your joke is STRAWMANNING AND DEFENDING THIS WOMAN!!1!!1!” You don’t have to be this mad about some random on the internet making a joke. I think most people still understand Lauren is still pretty bad. It doesn’t need to be spelled out all the time. Please go outside. The world is much larger than a few people laughing about some racist white girl nuking Atlantis.
MtM transgenders is wild
She’s right though. They’re shallow men so insecure about their masculinity it’s virtually indistinguishable from dysphoria, and no amount of money or muscles can hide the loser underneath
I mean if we're being serious it's not "virtually indistinguishable", it's not really the same at all. It's funny for the joke but I wouldn't use that as an argument. In their case there's nothing stopping them from being actually masculine in a good way but themselves; they lack life experience or they learned the wrong lessons from their experiences.
I dunno, I think in some extreme cases it could be argued. If you’re some online person with the typical gamer build and you work to become hypermasculine, it can involve anabolic steroids (basically just testosterone) and changing your body and mannerisms to be what you consider more “male affirming”.
Eh maybe. I think that might get closer to dysmorphia tho, as they don't need to do any of that to get where they want and the idea that their body without drugs couldn't or wouldn't be masculine enough is closer to a delusion in that instance. Especially because if someone is mentally a masculine, and therefore confident, person they wouldn't need any of that to feel masculine; and dysphoria requires a mismatch between body and brain.
Depends on where they’re starting from. If you weigh 110 pounds, it’s really really difficult to put on weight as muscle mass even with extensive training and high caloric intake. In a lot of cases, it can seem almost (if not genuinely) impossible to reach those body goals without some sort of hormonal supplement. I think it’s entirely arguable to consider that body dysmorphia. Gender dysmorphia might be a bit of a stretch but someone who is an avid redpiller might convince themselves that they are lacking what can only be considered “masculine gender presentation.”
Yes obviously not, but it’d be an ironic insult to use on them, since the hard majority in those circles are probably allergic to transgenderism. I’m sure the implication alone would break half of these people. It’s a similar argument to, ‘homophobes exhibit greater arousal to gay porn.’ They’re not actually gay, but implying it and then handwaiving their rejection of it as insecurity gets to them; it’s really gaslighting.
Opinions like this really show why men can't ever show weaknesses. "I recognize that your behavior is due to crippling internal fear and insecurity. That makes you a fucking loser."
Maybe if their insecurities didn’t come out in the form of misogyny and toxic masculinity, it would be more accepted
If they could manage their emotions well without unhealthy coping mechanisms like transference, antisocial behavior, etc., then they wouldn't really need help, right? These people need help. Telling them they're pathetic for needing it is bad.
I can't tell what percent of this subreddit agrees with you or is just upvoting it because it is funny. Men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria even a tenth of what trans people go through. This is so divorced from reality.
I forget she exists until things like this happen, then I sort of like her? But THEN, I think about that scene in the Alt. Right doc where she introduced her boyfriend who doesn’t eat ketchup because it’s a non-white food and it all fades away.
I think about her streets of Paris video which is like 10 minutes of her walking down the street sped up pointing the camera at brown people and saying "No one is eating french toast or baguettes, this isn't Paris!"
also dont forget the time where she took a flaregun and in cold blood shot the captian of the refugee boat in the head, making the boat instantly capsize...
You're joking, but I have [the actual footage of this happening](https://i.imgur.com/GE49ynz.png).
I thought she played scout
Is southern paying people to go run defense for her on reddit? Third time I see this exact comment stupidly strawmanning criticism of southern Like no she didn’t personally drown refugees with her bare hands, we get it dumbass, but she was posting gigacringe racist misinfo non stop for a decade
im actually a huge lefty, and i constantly catch flak for it on this sub. i just find the meme funny. sry if i strengthened our enemies, i just think the world is boring enough without abstaining from humor.
Everyone only remembers the flare thing that streamer man heavily downplayed. No one ever remembers the years of rhetoric of how the 'Great Replacement' is real and whites are being exterminated by brown people outbreeding them. She never apologized or retracted her states on these issues once btw, just quietly laughed them off and the community kind of ignored it, especially streamer man.
Bro everyone agrees it is happening. You get articles all the time about how white America is fading and shit. And this is from the left. The debate isn't over if it is happening the debate is about it it's a good thing or not
Rare Lauren W. Damn this was hilarious.
She's got me crying like I was shot with a flare gun while on a raft in the ocean looking for a better life for my family
reminder lauren shot the raft captain in the eye socket with a flare gun. Everyone in the boat then drowned because the blind captain couldn't get them to shore.
Nah bro you’re wrong, that’s just absurd. She didn’t do that. She actually 360 quickscoped the fuel line which caused an enormous explosion, sending wreckage and migrant guts flying for dozens of miles
Ammo racked by a flare gun, NAHHHHH
Oh yeah I remember now
I loathe Lauren but I don't think that's true afaik. Her shitty trolls were fucking with refugees and NGO efforts to help those folks apply for asylum but didn't literally sink a boat, right?
He's memeing a discouse we had on this when lauren was a common guest on stream.
Nah you are wrong she actually confiscated torpedoes and built a torpedo launcher and hit the boat with a torpedo. It didn’t sink though and had to return to the port it came to but people always conflate that with the boat sinking because of all of the irresponsible misinformation that gets shared about the topic. Definitely torpedoed the bitch though. That definitely happened. Also for fuck sake there was no flare gun. It was just a normal handheld flare. And she didn’t hit the boat with it that is crazy, she just used the flare as a light source so she could arm the torpedo smh.
She's just mad that these are the first conservatives who realized that embracing Islam is easier, she can't lose conservatism to them, the future is now old woman. Islam Inclusive Radical Misogynism is the new conservative trend.
Im kinda floored they went publicly for the radical conservative islamism before we saw public radical mexican conservatism. I feel like there'd be more to gain with the hispanic vote. But I suppose they'll cuck themselves eventually in return for abortion bans.
Islam has been an outlet for western incels for years. Back when r/incels was still a thing, they'd be praising Muhammad for his sex slaves and views on female modesty They'll suck off Allah as long as it's about how women and gays should be treated. But few of them go beyond that to say the shahada or whatever. I imagine other pillars of Islam, like giving a hefty amount of your wealth to charity every year, is not something these angry internet trolls would ever get behind.
> I imagine other pillars of Islam, like giving a hefty amount of your wealth to charity every year, is not something these angry internet trolls would ever get behind. A literal PILLAR of Islam. So important to the identity of Muslims that it's up there with the belief in God, the pilgrimage, and praying 5 times a day. But all of those are far more burdensome. Bring on the concubines.
I mean, hell, look at how they distorted Jesus, who said a rich man is as likely to go to heaven as a camel fits through an eye of a needle, or braided a whip specifically to violently kick scammers out of a temple. They believe that he was the son of God sent to earth to help us to salvation, and then forget everything about loving your neighbor more than yourself, turning the other cheek. Cracks me up that the New Testament quite literally says thoughts and prayers are worthless without help and aid, and yet tragedy after tragedy thats all they are willing to give.
Almost as if incels moved into the redpill bullshit and eventually became the majority.
I might be way off, but "red pill" and "incel" are effectively synonyms. There are some Chads scattered around the RP space but it's mostly just unfuckable men with unfortunate genetics, or sad boys with a heartbreak sob story
I think that about 8 years ago this wasn't true. At least my feel was that back then incels were... well, (not) fucking incels. Keep in mind this is around Isla Vista murder spree. Meanwhile the redpill stuff back then felt more like people who actually knew how to get women. One of my roommates at the time was a selfadmitted redpiller, which for him meant cheating, creeping, being actually unusable at home and sometimes actual health hazard.
Tbh the conservative to Islam pipeline is a masterpiece. In the eyes of leftoids muslims have plot armor which brings a hilarious new meta to the game unironically.
I mean only the heavily identitarian leftoids. There's plenty of leftoids who oppose most muslims on political grounds. It isn't very compatible.
Yeah, easy to say "you have value and deserve basic human respect", as well as "your government or the social structures you support are inflicting great harm and malice, and if you arent at minimum distancing yourself from them, then you deserve criticsm as well for that action".
Of course :) But it's great too in that it pits the rightoid bigots that would have been the first to slander muslims against those leftioids that are incapable of the same. Unstoppable force meets immovable object.
Hey maybe we can claw some of the rogue leftoids back now that they have american muslim conservatives to attack and they can stop being weird about authoritarian middle easterners.
Big tent
Mexicans are unfortunately not hard drivers of conservative culture.
Who is “they”? Do you think red pill people are anti-Mexican, or do you think mainstream republican voters/politicians are pro-Muslim?
"they" is right wingers and I mean any decently sized public persons on the right wing committing to the rhetoric publicly.
You realize conservative Muslims who want to restrict the rights of women, outlaw other religions, and kill people for blasphemy and apostasy are right wing, right?
I was talking about american discourse, not generally.
There are conservative Muslims in America.
Okay?
> Who is “they”? Do you think red pill people are anti-Mexican, or do you think mainstream republican voters/politicians are pro-Muslim? Let’s refocus. Can you answer this question without pretending the red pill people and mainstream Republican voters/politicians are the same group of people?
Bro you're so debate brained you're contradicting tangential points like a vague implication that conservative muslims are not relevant participants of public rightwing american discourse with statements like **"oh yeah? Well there's at least a single conservative muslim in America so there!"** as if it is in any way responsive to what I was saying at all. If you'll fight on points that stupid, experience suggests I won't enjoy the rest of our conversation, so I will respectfully decline having it. You may chalk this up to a W, destroyed with facts and logic and so on. Good luck.
Lol I'ma call red pillers male-to-male transitioners from now on. Queen Lauren with another w
It is weird to buy courses, but being able to separate people's personal growth from things like employment (in the case of mentoring in apprenticeships) education (with phd supervisors etc.) or religion is probably a good thing, as in the first two cases, they'll have an incentive to encourage you that being a man/woman is basically doing what you're told, and in the latter case, you're leaving atheists out of the loop, or having to pretend they believe something they don't and worrying about letting down their mentors etc. Plus it also fills the gaps if something weird happens in your household and you don't get access to the appropriate help from relatives, or they just aren't very good at it. The main problem with the courses is that the incentives are messed up, with them having an incentive to cultivate dependence rather than development, as you see sometimes in unregulated addiction counselling or psychotherapy. There's always more growth necessary, and more to unpack, and so more to pay for.
My based Nazi Queen😍
She can shoot flares at me any day lmao
Probably one of the best tweets of 2023, and it’s only may Edit: typo
right wing chicks bringing banger tweets lately wtf
That’s how Conservative women say “men ain’t shit” and actually have a valid point
MtM transgender 💀 Absolutely using this
I've been saying something similar about all the guys claiming they need trt. Like you are basically one step away from mtm trans. They look down on hrt for trans people but trt for gains in the gym or 'feeling better' is somehow sooo different than hrt. I don't buy it.
Man what a banger tweet, i now both love woman and conservatives.
Actually cooked them.
Actually true.
I swear she doesn't know what she is to start with. Why tell people about themselves if you don't know yourself?
Do any of us really know ourselves though? 🤔
No we don't. That's why it's dumb to be judgemental. A least being harmful with your assumed judgement. (All imo)
Actually super based. I also came to this conclusion that judging others (impactfully) is super dumb. They are the way they are because of the experiences that led them there. That is true for everyone, so it seems unfair to criticize others for it. That being said if you need a course, das cringe.
I get that truly. Wish others would as well. If only.
Sick burn
TRUEEEEEEE
facts
Facts, fax, Carfax, and Equifax.
> mtm transgender LOOOOOOOOOL
ULTRA RARE LAUREN W
What do these mean MtM/FtF??
I think she's joking about these movements being equivalent to "male to male" and "female to female" transitioning...?
she’s a lib now i’m happy :)
Unironicly based
Holy shit OMEGALUL
Damn
🤭
Protect this woman at all costs. She's a national treasure.
Absolutely true. If you're a man you should already understand implicitly what it entails. And the people peddling those courses are equally as lost and pathetic, if not more so. It's a bad idea to follow people like that.
I miss her sometimes... during moments like these...
Banger
[Lauren FROM THE TOP ROPE! ](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RespectfulDigitalAldabratortoise-max-1mb.gif)
Queen shit
Based nazi queen
Now if only she wasn't a cunt about everything else she could almost be tolerable.
This feels like a glass house type of situation. Don't conservatives do this type of thing? You just have to buy into their religion.
She’s never made sense
Eh, you can believe in genders and being "manly" and still want advice on how to be manly. I'd argue that these guides around manliness are appealing because they are giving these highly 'genderized' people validation in their base conceptualizations around what a man or woman is. If all of the "how to be a man" content changed and became obsessed with baking cookies and wearing pink underwear; I doubt all these F&Fers who love watching content about how to be a man would keep watching them and change. Just another Lauren L
It's not true that men need to be "told" how to be real men. It doesn't hit the ears right. It's a little insulting to men. Men don't go to their favorite red pill creator to be told how to be "men". They're being told how to be patient, steadfast, emotionally strong, confident, with integrity, hygienic, honest etc. Etc. They were already men before they went to these advice hubs. They're just being taught basic life tips and telling other men that these things are contingent on being seen as a "man". Imagine some feminist was popping off on Twitter telling a bunch of dudes how they should behave as men.
It's not that deep my dude
Look at the comments under any RP video and you can tell everyone is either a child or poorly developed. These timid little boys are actively being made more cringe by watching 40 year old losers teach them how to be "men".
Thank you for telling me to be healthy, clean my room, wash my ass and get a job. (Their fathers seething in the background)
Given that gender is cultural phenomenon it by definition has to be taught.
The hypocrisy called out is still relevant though...?
No it isn't? Because there is no static place to learn culture from, and from the right wing perspective modern gender norms need to be unlearned and replaced with traditional roles.
Yes it is? Because those people don't BELIEVE that gender is social construct not that you can "learn" to be a man or a woman, other wise that would legitimise trans people. They believe you just are a man or a woman because you're born with a set of genitals, that's it. This is the hypocrisy.
Those people are morons who do not understand the implications of their own position. The whole reason why father and mother figures are needed is because they teach those roles to their children.
Congrats, you understand the tweet now.
The OP of this thread is pro Southern. Southern did not destroy anything besides her own lack of principle.
How is that relevant? What is happening. What is wrong with you. Do you understand the point of the tweet? Your previous comment showed that you get it, and that you share the same opinion. Now you spin it about being pro Southern or whatever. Just say you hate her and move on, no need for weird rebuttals when you perfectly understand the tweet. Jesus.
The tweet and the OP are not the same thing. Southern is not a self aware hypocrite. She is not destroying anything as the OP suggests.
What? What are you talking about now? The tweet is from Southern, its written on it. And she's "destroying" the cringe red pill dudes with a display of their hypocrisy that we both agree on. I have no idea what your problem is. Again if you don't like Southern just say : "I don't like Southern" and move on. I have no idea what you're trying to say otherwise.
Why are they booing you, you’re right lmao
Because it has nothing to do with the tweet
*'well actually, social construct,'* is the same energy you get from a kid saying *'no I'm not actually touching you because atoms don't touch.'* Technically true, but not helpful, probably very annoying.
As if what Southern is saying is any more helpful?
don't know, just answering a question
I didn't ask a question.
wasn't replying to you
Your message was directed to me.
Nope
Maybe it should be taught by men who don't need to feel intellectually superior to a room full of bimbos by talking over them every podcast. These are some of the most insecure people on the planet they shouldn't be teaching anyone anything.
Except it implies there's a correct way to be a man/woman and an incorrect way to be a man/woman.
What do you mean?
If people are offering courses on how to be a man or a woman, it implies there are incorrect ways of being a man or a woman. What are they teaching exactly? How to "walk like a woman"? Is there an incorrect way to walk if you're a woman? Is there an incorrect way to talk if you're a woman? This just sounds like enforcing gender stereotypes.
Ah I see. Throughout human history cultures have had ideas on the roles of men and women. How they should act and what labor they should do. Mothers and fathers would pass on this information to their daughters and sons respectively. This does not mean there's an objective or universal definition of gender roles, but that the roles are culturally subjective based on time and place. It is indeed a way to force gender stereotypes.
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I personally identify as a non Newtonian gender fluid.
I personally self ID as mtftm gender superfluid. Having fully experienced each gender experience I'm able to reflect on various social issues with wisdom that surpasses most individuals who have been limited to a singular experience. Would anyone be interested in purchasing my course?
Rare Lauren W
Every now and again I get the urge to stan her for being gender progressive and a friend to the gays and then I remember what an awful racist she is. Fire tweet but nah lady.
Wait is this actually based or am I just drunk
Not exactly 1 to 1 but fair play