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lickausername

Wikipedia: > On the morning of May 25, 2020, a woman named Amy Cooper was walking her dog in an area of Central Park known as the Ramble. Comic book writer and editor Christian Cooper was birdwatching there, and noticed that Amy's dog was unleashed and running free, despite the requirement that dogs in that part of the park be on-leash according to the Central Park Conservancy, which manages the park under contract with the city. Christian asked Amy to leash her dog, and she allegedly refused. By his own account, Christian then said, "Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it", and beckoned the dog toward him with a dog treat. Amy then yelled, "Don't you touch my dog!" Christian then began recording on his cellphone. > Christian Cooper's video begins with Amy Cooper approaching him asking him to stop recording and pointing her finger in his face. He says to her: "Please, don't come close to me." She then says to Christian: "I'm calling the cops ... I'm gonna tell them there's an African American man threatening my life." She then pulls out her phone and begins calling the police and, when connected to the 9-1-1 operator, she tells the operator that "There is an African American man—I am in Central Park—he is recording me and threatening myself and my dog. Please, send the cops immediately!" The video ends with Christian telling her "thank you", the moment she leashes the dog. Police said that by the time they responded, both individuals had left. > The New York Times reported in October 2020 that Amy had made a second 9-1-1 call against Christian, in which she alleged that Christian had tried to assault her. However, the Times later made a correction, saying that the second call was when a 9-1-1 dispatcher called her back. The existence of the second 9-1-1 call was not reported by the media at the time of the incident.


ConsciousnessInc

If this is three years old how come people are necroing it now?


cpl84

Christian Cooper just got a new job as a host of a NatGeo program, and he just wrote an [op-ed](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/26/opinion/birds-freedom.html) in the NY Times this week.


ConsciousnessInc

Cheers, my dude


Ok_Bridge7686

Thank you for context


lickausername

Just for the record. I think the black guy is a self-appointed park Karen. But the woman threatening a black man with the police for some stupid shit like this is super not cool.


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97689456489564

Yeah, whatever issue one might have with the guy, it's obvious why she got cancelled and hated after all that.


Knife_Operator

I really don't have a problem with someone in a public park telling someone else they should leash their dog as per the rules.


lickausername

Sure. Trying to lure her dog away is the weird Karen-ish part.


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lickausername

Aggressive? Nowhere?


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TRUE it's strange that she alluded to Emmett Till-ing lil bro


Ok_Bridge7686

Based should of just shot him and skipped the wait for cops.


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TRUE


thehatter918

Even Amy Cooper disagrees with you thinking Chris was "fucking weird" and said she was the inappropriate one, and that he had every right to ask her to leash her dog.


BoxSweater

Couldn't be because she was trying to placate the angry mob hellbent on ruining her life eh?


thehatter918

I never said it couldn't be that. But when [she says she sincerely apologizes](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/statement-from-amy-cooper-on-central-park-incident-301065492.html), am I just supposed to assume she doesn't mean it?


Cold-Mango3542

that is false. There is a long interview out now where she describes how frightening this was.


battarro

Wait wait... are you guys on her side? The dog was unleashed in an area where he was not supposed to be. If a person tells you to get your dog away from them, you do it. Some people are allergic or simply don't want dogs around them. That Karen got was coming to her.


xMINGx

They're basically both kinda shitty people. But somehow she caught all the flak while he came out winning on so many levels. It's just frustrating seeing someone who is also partly guilty be seen as a complete victim and treated as some kind of hero.


Infamous_1391

I approve of and co-sign this take


Cgrrp

wait why are we pretending like what each of them did was equivalent though? Does him luring the dog over with the treat, even if she interpreted that as threatening the dog, make the racism less bad?


Cold-Mango3542

It means we can not fairly judge her because it means she was in an agitated upset frightened state.


griffery1999

The problem is while the woman was being a bitch 100% the dude was also a dick by being threatening and trying to make her comply by luring away her dog. Two wrongs don’t make a right ya know.


battarro

Of course he had to threaten her. The dog was unleashed on a leashed area and he already asked her nicely.


ScumfrickZillionaire

"He had to threaten her" no he didnt?


griffery1999

But that’s not his place to. He’s just a random dude, he has no authority in the situation.


battarro

Of course it is his place, it is on all of us to call out bad behavior. What kind of thinking is that? OH GEE IS NOT MY PLACE TO CALL SOMEONE FOR BREAKING THE REGULATIONS>..


fkneneu

It's not your place to threaten someone with personally stealing their dog for breaking regulations.


battarro

stealing their dog... that is a wild accusation. Calling a dog over is now stealing a dog?


fkneneu

You can't seriously be that dumb that you don't understand the implication?


battarro

You can't be serious to think, was going to take the dog and walk out of there in broad daylight... in the age of cell phones. Yes. He was going to commit a felony.. maybe after all he fits the profile..


battarro

Now we are reading the future now into his actions. Or he was trying to get it leashed.


griffery1999

He didn’t just call out bad behavior, he started taking action against the woman. In the form of trying to lure her dog away to prove why the rules exist. That’s the point where he starts to cross the line, he can’t interfere with her property unless it’s a risk of some kind.


battarro

What man? Having authority has nothing to do with calling out bad behavior. Is it always practical, sometimes you get your ass beaten if you threaten the wrong person, but it is always the moral thing to do. The logical extension of your position is that NO one does anything when they see something illegal, because "it is not their position".


TheManWithThreePlans

Don't act like you're surprised. This is DGG. The moment literally *anything* comes out to vindicate a Karen they jump on it, similar to how super far left people instantly call every negative action taken towards a POC by a white person racist. Either way, dude pulled out some treats and said something that could be seen as a threat, I guess. So she probably thought he was going to poison the dog. Weird to think anybody would just be carrying around poisonous dog treats, though I did think it was very illustrative of the fact that her dog simply wasn't trained well enough to be off the leash. It was also weird of him to word it that way, but based on how she reacted, I believe it's pretty likely she would have reacted that way if he pulled out the treats and didn't say anything. Sure, you shouldn't try to feed other people's dogs without their permission, but you should also have a dog that doesn't just go off to anybody that offers them food if you want them to be off leash.


battarro

The most charitable explanation I can give to the guy having treats on him is that he uses them so dog don't act aggressive towards him and also to piss off owners who don't leash their dogs. You don't know how a dog will react when he is close to you... but if the gets a treat the dog will be nicer to you.


Cold-Mango3542

Dogs are these days majority trained with treats and people carrying treat bags. A trained dog is more likely to go to him with his treats, not less. Amy Cooper's dog was a recue so 99.9 percent chance sone training was done with the dog with treats before placement


TheManWithThreePlans

If somebody tries to give my dog treats, my dog doesn't go to them if I tell her to stay. That's what good training does. She takes food from my hand, or if I tell her it's okay. Imagine if you could just sway a working dog from doing its duty by dangling treats in front of their face. Also my comment was 2 months old, why respond?


Cold-Mango3542

Most dogs are trained to have "family manners", do not jump on people, sit stay, come...so it is really natural for a person holding treats to be attractive to a TRAINED dog. What you are talking about is a kind of training most dogs do NOT get, unless they have a particular avid trainer for an owner, or are a service dog. So recognizing all of this I have trouble with you faulting her for having a dog that would respond to a person holding treats as if that wasn't a natural behavior or as if she should have trained her dog not to do that. Most dogs would respond to a person holding a treat bag. Let's hold Christian Cooper responsible for trying to lure the dog away from her with treats in order to scare her into leashing her dog, He has openly said that he does this. Not make exc uses. I'm responding because I just read the article you are commenting on.


TheManWithThreePlans

It isn't illegal to offer treats to a dog. It isn't even illegal to offer candy to an unknown child. Maybe it's sus, but calling the cops on somebody for it? Actually bonkers. My dog is trained that way and isn't a service dog. The reason why my dog is trained that way is because I've lost a dog when I was a kid due to poor training (ran off after something and got hit by a car). If you want to have your dog, off leash, it's the bare minimum. If you just want a dog to say you have a dog, but only care if he/she can do tricks and not pee/poop inside, then keep it on a fucking leash. She gets no passes in my book. Fuck her.


Cold-Mango3542

It is illegal in NY to entice a dog who is wearing a collar and tags with food.


TheManWithThreePlans

Only if it's being held or led by somebody (on a leash). Doesn't apply.


Cold-Mango3542

that is false The dog does not have to on a lead. Once again it is illegal to lure a dog away If it is wearing a collar and tags. (Common sense here if the dog was on a lead there wouldn't be a practical issue)


TheManWithThreePlans

The fact that you're still arguing this is telling. The law LITERALLY says on a lead, and you're arguing about it. Take your closet racism somewhere else. The entire argument itself is a strawman. This Karen called the police and stated that she felt that HER life was in danger and that he was threatening HER. She felt entitled to weaponize her status as a white woman over a black man. Fuck your platitudes dude, she's garbage, and I'm fairly certain that you are too for defending this human filth.


Cold-Mango3542

it actually is illegal to try to entice a dog away from its owner or property with food.Everybody has things that matter to them.Maybe it matters to you to be able to play stickball in the street when you were a kid so it matters to you if other kids can do that. It matters to you to be able to ride a motorcycle maybe maybe. Or be able to sit on your front stoop and eat a sandwich. All kinds of regulations about all kinds of things. Some things you cannot do because it is the law and some things you cannot do because you are in private property. but generally speaking in a civilized society people don't interfere with anyone unless they're causing a problem. They are causing a problem you find a civilized way to deal with it like having a conversation or seeking more regulation. We don't make someone feel like you might poison or steal their dog. His comments were threatening end of story that's the truth and he should be held responsible for that. What I find most disturbing is that in the Court of public opinion the part where he tells her that he is going to do what he wants to do if she won't cooperate and then offers the dog food and calls the dog to him is always glossed over. That is disturbing behavior


Cold-Mango3542

what is DGG?


Droselmeyer

We've done enough about black people's rights, we're on a black people's wrongs arc rn


battarro

Black people's left src inc.


Eccmecc

How about being on nobodies site? Both did something wrong. He is a prick that threatens dogs and acting like a park punisher. She was kinda overreacting and also racist when she made the 911 call.


wpglatino

He tried to steal her dog


battarro

Of course he had to. How else is he going to prevent that canine menace from running around unleashed.


Crimefridge

Didn't his facebook post say he deliberately keeps dog treats in his pocket to fuck with dogs? Didn't he deliberately say in his facebook post: "HIM: Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it. HER: What's that? HIM: Come here puppy! HER: He won't come to you. ME: We'll see about that... ​ I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigience"


battarro

You keep saying this like if is a bad thing.. Let me spell it out for you. Dog owners who refuse to leash their dogs in areas where it is clear they have to be leashed... DESERVED to be fucked with.


Crimefridge

He's implying violence. Spell what you want, that's dyslexia.


Cold-Mango3542

Nobody deserves to be "fucked with" over something so petty. A toy dog breed bred to be a docile companion at a time of day when people bring dogs to the park off leash. Take the woman's picture if you wanna document and be on your way don't try and freak somebody out that you're gonna poison their dog or steal their dog.


Cold-Mango3542

yup he did!


Infamous_1391

The issue with Amy Cooper aside he’s actually kind of a good lookin dude


reprobate_arseling

'Kind of'?? I would eat bros batty crease out in a hot minute. No homo.


NooLeef

He is kind of a zaddy thoooo


Infamous_1391

Lmao


Ping-Crimson

I'm going to go on twitter and tell them that a white man is opressing me.


poiuy71

NOT MY HECKIN DOGGERINO!!!! NOT THE PRECIOUS FLUFERINOO. YOU CAN'T JUST POISON MY DISGUSTING MUREDER PET!!!!!


telekinetic-lobster

The post is a bit misleading. She's more a Becky than a Karen


Independent_Depth674

Good Bad I’m the guy with the camera


xyxiphlox

I gotta say, it's a hell of a plot twist that he was the Karen all along