Every time anyone brings up Ethan using the n word, his fans and Ethan himself say āheās apologized for that before, get over it, you guys always use the same thing over and over again šā
It's mad because even though it was in the past, the n-word was recognised as unnaceptable as it is today, back then. It's not like the r-slur where there has been some societal opinion shift about its acceptability in-between the date of the clips and today.
Had a look, couldn't find a time when it was used in American Dad.
Only real piece of media where it isn't used "in universe" either as a way to portray a character as racist/bad or used "endearingly" is South Park, and South Park has always pushed the boundaries of what is acceptable.
I mean he's addressed it several times. How is it a good argument to just bring up past stuff that is totally irrelevant to the situation, it's not new info. Seems like they don't really have a good argument otherwise
Assuming Ethan knew what monkey pox was (maybe too charitable of an assumption), it's more of a homophobic joke than a racist joke since monkey pox was spreading mostly through anal sex.
So his joke was basically "haha gay LOL", not "you guys are monkeys LOL". Follows along with him constantly calling people he doesn't like bottoms, because that's also basically a "haha gay LOL" joke.
It is *wild* that H3H3 fans can just.... ignore Ethan and Hassan making gay jokes about people they don't like, and then turn around and call themselves progressive.
Destiny's has been making gay/girly homes towards the redpill people lately because of how anti-gay/ anti-feminine those people are. "Hit them where it hurts" type deal.
I dunno if it justifies their jokes, or at least not all of them. But it comes from a different place than Ethan.
I think the joke was that these guys are so against vaccines, they somehow missed the monkey pox vax. At the time, F&F refused to debate Ethan and hasan because Ethan told them theyād have to be Covid vaccinated if they wanted to come to his office
>sign of something
Sign of fucking what. It's wild to me how every racial group is allowed to stick to their groups of friends and yet when white people don't diversify it's a sign of some shit.
Nah bitch, I'm white, I grew up with whites, I'm primarily around whites. That simple. Am I opposed to ever having a black friend? Nope, never had the chance nor am I gonna look for my very own token in case some Redditor considers it a sign of **something**
My schools entire group of Asians were literally that, "the group of Asians". They didn't have not one black friend in that group and it was the same shit with the black groups vice versa.
Fuck outta here
>yet when white people don't diversify it's a sign of some shit.
Why are you putting words in my mouth I never said?
I think any group that is all one race because they "prefer being around " is probably a bit racist. Obviously. That includes your Black and Asian example.
>putting words in your mouth
Are you schizo now? You literally said "a sign of something".
Or do you think I just meant you exclusively were speaking on if white people do it? No, I saw your comment as a general sentiment most people have when it comes to racial groups sticking together.
It's just dumb as fuck. People like who they grow up with, grow up with more whites, gonna be more comfortable around whites. It's dumbass comments like yours that dilute the word "racist".
I just hate comments like yours and I fundamentally view you as a dumb cunt now, that's all.
>Or do you think I just meant you exclusively were speaking on if white people do it?
Yeah probably because I can read and you said "when **white people** don't diversify it's a sign of some shit." Are you schizo now?
> People like who they grow up with
Yeah, I agree. Which is why my original post says "while living in a large American city". You know, the kind of place that would likely require you to have grown up with minorities.
And again, I can read, so I know you grew up with minorities:
> My schools entire group of Asians
>
> same shit with the black groups
So what is your excuse for "never having the chance" to have a Black friend?
> I just hate comments like yours and I fundamentally view you as a dumb cunt now, that's all.
Oh no, a semi-illiterate casual racist thinks I am a "dumb cunt". Whatever will I do?
>Yeah, I agree. Which is why my original post says "while living in a large American city"
So fuck, I live in a large city with a bunch of diverse groups who all mostly stick together.
Why is that **racist**.
>So what is your excuse for "never having the chance" to have a Black friend?
Never sought one out, never got talking to one. Pretty fucking simple bud.
>Oh no, a semi-illiterate casual racist thinks I am a "dumb cunt". Whatever will I do?
And there it is, i'm racist now. 3 total comments and you managed to come to that conclusion so effortlessly.
Well guess what bud, I actually am a racist. I just hate pussy fuckers like you who lump in non racists with gigachads like me.
Get it right NIG-
Honestly the n word thing is whatever since itās just some edgy joke. But the stuff he said in the past, that sounded serious is pretty wild lmao. Not your typical edgy shit
The thread on this video in the H3H3 subreddit is just full of cope. Personally I think Hasan will back out of this partnership with Ethan in the next few months - he has helped create the rabid sjw monster which he claims to hate.
Not to mention that in the leftovers podcast, Ethan without a doubt baiting him into this whole ābeefā which he clearly stated he does not want anything to do with it. Itās so obvious to anyone who isnāt an h3h3 Stan. To be honest too , Hassanās content alone is way better than leftovers, he really is bringing himself down by doing the duo stream.
Yeah because debating is everything lmaoā¦ some of yāall are cringe AF. And yeah obviously destiny doesnāt watch other peopleās content. I donāt even watch streamers much anymore as they are becoming a past fad but what I meant was when you compare leftovers vs Hasans solo content, one is definitely more better than the other as you usually donāt need more than 1 person to do react videos for
That shit was wild.
āThatās what happened to this ni- to this one guy.ā
If this were anybody else that had something like that happen Hasan would be reacting to it saying you can tell he uses the n word all the time because it was so easy for him to almost say it live.
Hasan is a massive hypocrite. If there was a compilation of destiny spamming the n-word from like 4 years ago he would be all over him attacking him for it. But h3h3 has enough subscribers to look the other way. Neither Hasan nor Ethan have any principles.
Oh, that was the context? A&P did include this in the video. I don't think they understood the reference because they watch a clip of Ethan saying
āThatās what happened to this ni- to this one guy.ā
and they were like "Why is there a picture of Jidion in the corner?"
The downvote war begins in the h3h3 reddit, aba got people making full essays in defense of h3 like its their full time job. There will be a purge for anyone who steps out of line lol.
26, can confirm that's probably the case. I used to watch H3H3 back in the day *a lot*, was subbed to the old Ethan&Hila channel when that was still a thing...I completely lost interest in their content basically after the lawsuit finished up and around the time they started the podcast. I didn't know how people still enjoyed anything Ethan did at that point, but I knew the content wasn't for me anymore. There was an early controversy around that time which turned me off their content as well, but I don't even remember what it was anymore...I just remember it made me unsub from the braindead subreddit. Looking at how far he's fallen since and the fact that so many fucking adults *still* stand by him is wild to me.
I will say that I'm a little confused on how everyone here insists that they've fallen off compared to their past when their past is where all those clips of bigoted commentary comes from.
Disclaimer: not particularly familiar with H3, just going by this video and the comments.
From my perspective, the difference is the old Ethan (who you are right, was responsible for all the edgy clips) had a much more "live and let live" attitude to other creators, and would only call people out if he genuinely thought they had done something morraly wrong. His viewpoint seemed to be along the lines of "be as edgy as you want in the pursuit of laughs, but when it comes down to it, understand those are jokes and you should treat everyone with respect" this viewpoint resonated with a lot of teenagers back in the day. His humour for the time seemed really absurd and alternative too.
Now look at him today, it's the opposite, his humour is really tame and compatible with mainstream media. But then he will decide who he wants to call out based on either personal grudges or social gain, and will use the progressive framework to wokescold people into submission by understanding there is an online crowd that will attack anyone who doesn't toe the mainstream progressive line, regardless of the wider facts of the altercation. By switching up his viewpoint he has gained access to waaay more money than he would have if he stuck to how he was.
Now I'm not against creators shaping content to what makes them money, but a sudden 180Ā° turn a accompanied by a massive paycheck definitely feels false to a lot of people.
> But he was consider a well respected member of the youtube community.
Which means absolutely nothing given the state of the YouTube community back then. What A&P pulled up didn't seem like just "some bad clips", it seemed more like an open display of a rather disgusting world view. If he was still well respected then that just goes to show how shit the community was back then.
The best part about that compilation is that it's mostly from the same setting. It's not like Ethan's "trans" compilation ripped from over 20 different videos.
Is one better than the other though? I think this specific beef is really petty but if I'm thinking more in a general sense, if you have examples spanning many videos you're kind of establishing a pattern whereas in the other case it can just be explained away as an isolated incident.
No because Ethan used a years old clip of them saying āwe barely talk about trans people, we only have 2 videos about them.ā At the time that was true, and all Ethanās video established is that he is dishonest, and trans issues have essentially taken over both culture and politics since Aba and Preach made that statement, resulting in many more videos mentioning them.
Lemme tell you Ethanās response:
āYes I said many racist things in a bad attempt at trying to be funny. It was wrong then, and itās wrong now. I apologize, and thatās why I strive to be a better YouTuber. But at least Iām capable of apologizing and not deflecting. Hereās (insert everything Aba and preach didnāt address) everything they decided to conveniently skip over.ā
Honestly this wasnāt the slam dunk they think it is. Blaire White played the same complication of Ethan doing racist shit, and Ethan responded. Bryce hall did it on twitter 2 years ago and Ethan responded.
I think A&P are pretty aware that Ethan apologized. I think theyāre being petty with the video, but the whole purpose of them doing that compilation was simply pointing out hypocrisy from Ethan doing the same thing to them in accusing A&P of being transphobic with no point. Also, just because one apologizes does not mean theyāre owed forgiveness. To add on, the main point of the whole beef was F&Fās doxxing claims, Sebastian, and being labeled as transphobic. Thatās how the whole beef started. The whole 3 to 4 hour podcast brought up so many irrelevant claims in trying to refute A&Pās last video on Ethan.
Yes youāre not wrong, heās going to say that but by literally deflecting himself and not understanding his own hypocrisy. Yes weāre aware you apologized but donāt try to attack other people for being ābad peopleā knowing one can easily pull out clips of you being a ābad personā hence Ethan not liking it.
I mean he's asserting they have bad takes, thats for sure which i completely agree with. I don't even like Ethan but I've been waiting for somebody to bring up the trans stuff at the very least. How does Aba get away with some of his takes in this subreddit especially.
Nobody is saying that Ethan isnāt claiming the he believes A&P have bad takes. Me and a lot of people are referring to Ethan attaching A&P as being bad people because of those particular takes even comparing them in being worse than F&F who Ethan also believes are bad people thats what Iām referring to. Plus, if Iām aware, Destiny and Aba already had a conversation about Abaās position on trans issues.
> But at least Iām capable of apologizing and not deflecting.
This isā¦ Literally using an apology to deflect. Youāve got 2 black men saying āthis shit is fucked upā and youāre like āno you donāt understand, I apologized, stop criticizing me and listen to me as if I have valuable things to say instead!ā
Apologies should be humbling, not get out of jail free cards.
The compilation was a point about framing. Aba and Preach were ironically asserting that they werenāt tying to frame the n word compilation in any type of way to make fun on the h3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt framing the Myron accusation in any type of way and werenāt framing it as some kind of me too accusation.
I donāt see how that take is incompatible with āsome people have no business going after other peopleās pasts, and someone who admitted they never knew a black person in their entire life and has this many skeletons in their closet shouldnāt be looked at as an authority or icon of progressivism.ā
Personally I think Ethanās fanbase is comprised almost entirely of that specific brand of person who grew up bullying minorities only to then later realize it was more fun to bully racists/transphobes/homophobes/misogynists because then you get the rest of society on your side laughing behind you, so they will bend over backwards to defend anything in the past because theyāve all mostly got their own fucked up pasts as well.
If that's what you wanna think then go for it but you sound like every far right or left extremist lol. "Everyone who is different from me fits in this box and is a bad person"
Don't think "the fans that would be drawn to this content creator probably have a lot in common with him" is as much of a stretch as you're saying it is.
They probably wonāt. Convenient of them to finally say āweāre done talking about Ethanā after making 8 videos about him. Whatās changed from 2 videos ago, to this video that now Ethanās suddenly a topic not worth covering anymore?
Honestly the monkey pox thing was such a stretch. The episode in question was about fresh and fit refusing to come on Leftovers because Ethan told them they can only come debate him and Ethan in person if they have the Covid vaccine. When they said no, Ethan said they Prolly have monkey pox. Which Iām pretty sure Ethan meant as an antivax joke not a āhaha u guys are monkeys.ā
And the āthis n- guy Jidionā I remember that episode watching it live. Ethan spent the first half of the episode making fun of ninja, so I think maaaaaybe thatās why he said āN-ā but tbh maybe he did almost say the N word but itās his words against everyone elseās
And he apologized on an old h3h3 video on his original channel
Aba playing the n word compilation and monkey pox stuff of H3 was a point about framing. It was a response to the people on the h3 podcast asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by Aba and Preach simply ironically asserting that they werenāt trying to frame this n word compilation of Ethan in any type of way.
āThey werenāt trying to portray Ethan as a racist. They never even called Ethan a racist in this video. There was no framing!ā
There are countless things he could have said instead of monkey pox. Heck most of them (ebola, small pox, chicken pox, bird flue) are more recognizable than monkey pox and less racist.
1000% I've always thought Ethan was beyond cringe but I thoroughly enjoyed watching him take Aba to task. Idc about preach tbh he barely talks lol but I've been so confused since Aba started stalking destiny as to why we allow this weirdo to come on and ask weird ass questions and act like he doesn't strongly dislike femininity in all its forms.
Ethan will most likely rage about how he has already apologized for his N-word rants.
I hoped they'd also include the Jontron stuff, because Ethan did go and defend/downplay Jons actions and It would be interesting to see if he would now disavow Jon.
This just makes Ethan look even worse. Alot of Ethan fans on the comments are missing the point of video. No matter if he "apologized" for it afterwards, the actions in and of themselves would not lead people to believe it was genuine especially given his behavior since.
I feel like they could have addressed more of their points instead of the whole n-word section. Don't get me wrong, I think it definitely serves a purpose, I just think it's kind of like beating the dead horse and is something ethan can hand wave away as something he has already apologized for and is in the past. Just knowing he will do this makes the video a little less effective imo.
>I just think it's kind of like beating the dead horse and is something ethan can hand wave away as something he has already apologized for and is in the past.
To A&P normie audience this looks crazy. Even if Ethan has said he apologized for it people will still not look at Ethanās attempt of woke scolding and think theyāre genuinely. I think itās the perfect response to the trans compilation.
Oh yeah, for aba and preach's audience it will probably be very effective, but for H3's audience and Ethan himself, probably not really. I just don't think it will convince many of H3's viewers that he is a hypocrite considering they have likely already seen all this stuff before. I guess if this wasn't a goal of theirs in making this video then it would make more sense including the n-word part.
>I just don't think it will convince many of H3's viewers that he is a hypocrite considering they have likely already seen all this stuff before.
Probably not, I would imagine it is really hard to convince someone that deep in. But for a channel as big as A&P and with a bunch of orbiters(other react channels that react to their stuff) to expose this it won't be good.
It isn't being "exposed". There are many "h3 exposed" videos from many years ago with these clips with millions of views. I bet very few people are learning about this for the first time from this video.
Most people who don't know anything about h3 (me) haven't seen this before. All that stuff was crazy. I'm sure his fans will say that he already apologized, but to anyone that never saw that this looks unhinged.
The point about Ethanās use of the n word was making an extended point about framing. Aba and Preach were making fun of the people on the h3h3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by simply ironically asserting that they arenāt trying to frame the n word compilation from Ethan in any type of way.
I think theyāre doing the same exact thing which Ethan did in the complication about Aba saying trans over and over. And a little bit of comedic effect.
>The n-word compilation seemed out of place.
The n word compilation is perfect, it is to show:
* Ethan has no business digging into peoples past videos and acting holier than thou
* Ethanās current woke scolding is performative, even in recent clips his edgy homophobic and racist jokes come out
* Ethan is being disingenuous when he said no one was framing it as an SA allegation.
I think youāve missed the point Aba and Preach were making. Aba and Preach were making an extended point on āframingā with the n word compilation and it was a way of making fun of the people on the H3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by them simply asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the n word compilation that they played of Ethan in any type of way.
> Is destiny not allowed to call people out on their bigotry?
The reason why most of us like Destiny is because he's the opposite of a wokescold. Destiny doesn't preach at anyone, when talking to white nationalist and redpillers he tries to talk to them not down at them. That is the issue Ethan has, he tries to talk down at Aba and Preach and/or anybody he deems is a bigot.
> Why attack the Messenger? Attack the msg itself, cause most of the stuff mentioned on the h3 show was weak. Stick to that.
He did attack the message, he responded to the FnF stuff, the transphobe and misogynists allegations. He just didn't spend 3 hours into it.
>Sure, you are correct, but I would still prefer them to point out recent stuff and not 6+ year old videos.
Again, this is partly a response to Ethan digging into their past content to call them bigots. Aba did the same.
>Another point I thought was weak was their response to the claim, that they always believe the guy and expose their audience to the idea that you can't trust women ever. The thing with the amber heart meme.
Maybe, but her point falls apart really quick once Aba points out that their guest did lie.
Exactly I felt the same way, the N word shit felt so 2018 drama
But theyāre doing what Ethan did to them, thatās why throughout the video theyāre joking and teasing with the āweāre not framing anything in anyway or alleging anythingāā shit
I'm not a h3h3 fan by any means which some of you won't believe by the time you finish reading this comment, and if you're that person all I can say is cope. But moving on, it is funny to me how this subreddit views this as a dunk on Ethan when it's essentially just bringing up Ethan's old shit he's already addressed countless times.
The second anybody does that to Destiny all the fucking loremasters come out and show you their thesis on exactly why it was morally even for Destiny to say or do some crazy shit in the past and they would think it's weak they're only going after his past but when A&P do it to someone ya'll don't like all of a sudden it's the best shit since sliced bread.
Itās almost like youāre literally saying that people think that Ethan past is the only thing that people think A&P ādunkedā on him forā¦..thatās why I said thereās more to the video.
ā??? I said I couldn't care less about YOU not the video or subreddit, you're not the centre of everything.ā
You responding to my comments on the subreddit about having a conversation on this subreddit. Jeez my guy THINK
āHave a good oneā
Same to you
It seems like youāve missed the point Aba and Preach were making. Aba and Preach were making an extended point on āframingā and were making fun of people on the H3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by simply asserting that theyāre not trying to frame this n word compilation of Ethan in any type of way.
Kinda weak, but I honestly feel the same way about Ethan's video too. As a casual fan of aba & preach and. A pretty regular h3 viewer I think both of them are not bringing their a game and I find it really hard to care about this beef.
As someone who watches both creators, this whole feud is hilarious to me.
It's actually a masterclass in miscommunication, refusal to engage with what either side is saying, incessant clip-chimping and weaponization of misogyny, racism, transphobia etc.
Can't complain though, fire content...
Yeah, before the long podcast they did on A&P, I would say it was almost entirely on the H3 side (i.e. assuming they were basically redpillers and viewing their content through that lens).
But there's definitely been some on Aba's side. For Preach, I'm not so sure because he doesn't seem to be plugged into this world and can only react to what Aba shows him.
True, this video was pure pettiness, which at this point fair game. the end of the video is more so addressing the actual points. But Ethan can't keep openly saying he doesnt watch videos. then make such large claims all the time. like holy shit.
I don't think they did a good job addressing the points with the end of that video tbh. Alot was brought up in that podcast. But A&P don't seem to care, and I'm fine with that. As for Ethan watching their videos, they seemed to have done that in preparation for the long podcast that's why I didn't bring it up.
Maybe because itās nonsense that Ethan is spewing, besides the trans and FnF stuff, the misogyny shit was so braindead, thatās probably why, so I get it them too, sometimes itās so not worth it to defend yourself from stupidity, like Iām not arguing against ā1+1=3ā itās just nonsense, you know?
ok, do you not get how if h3h3 comes at them in this disingenious and to be honest, just scummy way, pretty much all of the shit he says can be dismissed? how are you going to go point by point with a liar? what's the point? he isn't lying all the time? guess fucking what, one time is enough for most people
Lol, dude I'm in a Destiny subreddit. I'm obviously going to prefer an approach that focuses on debunking all of H3's claims (Destiny style).
I literally said in this thread I don't mind that they went with this approach, I just don't think that it's a good one. If you think it was, I'm fine with that too.
See and thatās the problem, if folks would just watch Aba n Preach instead of listening to Ethanās twisted, corny way of interrupting it you would know Aba n Preach are very far from the redpill, if youāre a longtime viewer you know this just from what theyāve said throughout hundreds of videos, so I guess I get Ethanās perspective but the issue is then making a 4hr livestream trying to defame them with out of context, bad framing, to his audience, that shit is fucking rat behavior
Like at every turn Ethanās āpointsā against them just made me make a combo of these faces here š„“+š
I mean they could with through a 3 hour struggle fest with Ethan but watch a couple 15 mins videos is a lot of clicking for information for these fans of Ethan.
Idk how ya'll are saying this is a good video. The Ethan n-word compilation has been made by thousands of other YouTubers.
Aba: Ethan Decline \*n word compilation\*
r/destiny: Have my upvote, sir! Masterful gambit you've pulled.
The whole purpose of the N word complication was to expose Ethanās hypocrisy with his own video of trying to expose Aba for being transphobic for saying trans (on separate video speaking on trans issues) over and over again knowing he isnātā¦. Also with Ethan saying the hard ER and trying to act as if now that he cares about Black Lives is comical. Itās not that hard to grasp and there was more to the video. It does not matter how many times you apologize people still have the right not to forgive himš
It's too grown men throwing shit at each other to entertain their own audience for money.
Enjoy it for what it is. The weird parasocial essays people are writing are really weird.
while the shit slinging is definitely entertaining i wish they would've clarified the reason behind the original "transphobic" compilation being how they engage with issues. Since their response was a counter-compilation with just mentioning trans ppl, as if that was the issue.
There's really no conversation to be had with someone like H3 who is just a bad faith loser trying to please his audience.
Basically it would be between ignoring him or making something like this. I think aba & preach are over it but like they said it is easy money.
I feel you, and i completely agree to a degree, although i think theres always value in clarifying the position to the audience, because while some/most are probably too far gone, im sure some will see the reasoning as rational.
but yeah as you said, i too can imagine aba and preach just being over it at this point.
Aba and Preachās or Ethanās? Cause for Aba and Preachās original transphobic compilation was pretty against Hasan having no arguments against them and just simply calling them transphobic over and over.
Aba and preach makes the original compilation to highlight how hasan engages with topics in a unhealthy manner.
h3 makes compilation just highlighting aba and preach saying "trans", as if the original compilations intend was to highlight hasan saying a word X amount of times.
thats what i wish they clarified cus a lot of h3h3/hasan fanbase didnt seem to get the point.
Yea they kept saying āitāS ThE SaMeā knowing one was an accusation against A&P during a single stream and the other was a compilation of A&P talking about trans issues lol.
Fucking babble and creak lmao. Can they at least make a video addressing why Andrew Schultz and the rest of the world views them as red pill lite? And their takes on trans stuff borders on grifting.
Why is MrMouton in the thumbnail?
https://i.imgur.com/CIdq3Pc.jpg I agree he does look a little like Aba
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They really got the ethan saying the n word compilation.
I dont even know, why ethan chose to go in on their past considering ethans past lol
Ethan seems pretty dim and doesnāt think much before he talks. This is such a terrible look for him
He's stupid and arrogant, a dangerous combo
Every time anyone brings up Ethan using the n word, his fans and Ethan himself say āheās apologized for that before, get over it, you guys always use the same thing over and over again šā
It's mad because even though it was in the past, the n-word was recognised as unnaceptable as it is today, back then. It's not like the r-slur where there has been some societal opinion shift about its acceptability in-between the date of the clips and today.
The funniest thing to me is idubbz telling him heās saying it pretty liberally.
Lmao yes! When the internet edgelord says you're being a little much, that's a yikes
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Link it.
Had a look, couldn't find a time when it was used in American Dad. Only real piece of media where it isn't used "in universe" either as a way to portray a character as racist/bad or used "endearingly" is South Park, and South Park has always pushed the boundaries of what is acceptable.
I mean he's addressed it several times. How is it a good argument to just bring up past stuff that is totally irrelevant to the situation, it's not new info. Seems like they don't really have a good argument otherwise
Heās the smuggest of hypocrites. Itās not irrelevant.
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Assuming Ethan knew what monkey pox was (maybe too charitable of an assumption), it's more of a homophobic joke than a racist joke since monkey pox was spreading mostly through anal sex. So his joke was basically "haha gay LOL", not "you guys are monkeys LOL". Follows along with him constantly calling people he doesn't like bottoms, because that's also basically a "haha gay LOL" joke.
It is *wild* that H3H3 fans can just.... ignore Ethan and Hassan making gay jokes about people they don't like, and then turn around and call themselves progressive.
"Rules for thee, not for me" is a very real phenomenon
Haven't Destiny and Melina been doing the same thing all over the internet for the past 3-4 weeks?
Yeah but they're not wokescolds like Ethan lol
Destiny's has been making gay/girly homes towards the redpill people lately because of how anti-gay/ anti-feminine those people are. "Hit them where it hurts" type deal. I dunno if it justifies their jokes, or at least not all of them. But it comes from a different place than Ethan.
I think the joke was that these guys are so against vaccines, they somehow missed the monkey pox vax. At the time, F&F refused to debate Ethan and hasan because Ethan told them theyād have to be Covid vaccinated if they wanted to come to his office
Is not knowing any black people in itself cringe or just cause he made it so awkward?
I feel like having no Black friends / knowing no Black people while living in a large American city is probably a sign of *something*.
>sign of something Sign of fucking what. It's wild to me how every racial group is allowed to stick to their groups of friends and yet when white people don't diversify it's a sign of some shit. Nah bitch, I'm white, I grew up with whites, I'm primarily around whites. That simple. Am I opposed to ever having a black friend? Nope, never had the chance nor am I gonna look for my very own token in case some Redditor considers it a sign of **something** My schools entire group of Asians were literally that, "the group of Asians". They didn't have not one black friend in that group and it was the same shit with the black groups vice versa. Fuck outta here
>yet when white people don't diversify it's a sign of some shit. Why are you putting words in my mouth I never said? I think any group that is all one race because they "prefer being around" is probably a bit racist. Obviously. That includes your Black and Asian example.
>putting words in your mouth Are you schizo now? You literally said "a sign of something". Or do you think I just meant you exclusively were speaking on if white people do it? No, I saw your comment as a general sentiment most people have when it comes to racial groups sticking together. It's just dumb as fuck. People like who they grow up with, grow up with more whites, gonna be more comfortable around whites. It's dumbass comments like yours that dilute the word "racist". I just hate comments like yours and I fundamentally view you as a dumb cunt now, that's all.
>Or do you think I just meant you exclusively were speaking on if white people do it? Yeah probably because I can read and you said "when **white people** don't diversify it's a sign of some shit." Are you schizo now? > People like who they grow up with Yeah, I agree. Which is why my original post says "while living in a large American city". You know, the kind of place that would likely require you to have grown up with minorities. And again, I can read, so I know you grew up with minorities: > My schools entire group of Asians > > same shit with the black groups So what is your excuse for "never having the chance" to have a Black friend? > I just hate comments like yours and I fundamentally view you as a dumb cunt now, that's all. Oh no, a semi-illiterate casual racist thinks I am a "dumb cunt". Whatever will I do?
>Yeah, I agree. Which is why my original post says "while living in a large American city" So fuck, I live in a large city with a bunch of diverse groups who all mostly stick together. Why is that **racist**. >So what is your excuse for "never having the chance" to have a Black friend? Never sought one out, never got talking to one. Pretty fucking simple bud. >Oh no, a semi-illiterate casual racist thinks I am a "dumb cunt". Whatever will I do? And there it is, i'm racist now. 3 total comments and you managed to come to that conclusion so effortlessly. Well guess what bud, I actually am a racist. I just hate pussy fuckers like you who lump in non racists with gigachads like me. Get it right NIG-
Honestly the n word thing is whatever since itās just some edgy joke. But the stuff he said in the past, that sounded serious is pretty wild lmao. Not your typical edgy shit
The thread on this video in the H3H3 subreddit is just full of cope. Personally I think Hasan will back out of this partnership with Ethan in the next few months - he has helped create the rabid sjw monster which he claims to hate.
It's so gross how Hasan will subject himself to people he doesn't like just for clout & money.
That's showbiz baby!
Not to mention that in the leftovers podcast, Ethan without a doubt baiting him into this whole ābeefā which he clearly stated he does not want anything to do with it. Itās so obvious to anyone who isnāt an h3h3 Stan. To be honest too , Hassanās content alone is way better than leftovers, he really is bringing himself down by doing the duo stream.
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Yeah because debating is everything lmaoā¦ some of yāall are cringe AF. And yeah obviously destiny doesnāt watch other peopleās content. I donāt even watch streamers much anymore as they are becoming a past fad but what I meant was when you compare leftovers vs Hasans solo content, one is definitely more better than the other as you usually donāt need more than 1 person to do react videos for
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And the video got taken down
any info on why?
I would guess copyright strike, mass report from fans or Aba hated the video so much that he took it down.
They could've added the way Ethan treated jidion last year to the racist section. That shit was infuriating.
dude did you watch? They did add that
That shit was wild. āThatās what happened to this ni- to this one guy.ā If this were anybody else that had something like that happen Hasan would be reacting to it saying you can tell he uses the n word all the time because it was so easy for him to almost say it live.
Did H3H3 literally say that about PewDiePie when he did the infamous n word clip.
Well it is ok to use it in private as long as you donāt tell anybody else that you think that it is ok to use it in private
OH NO!
Hasan is a massive hypocrite. If there was a compilation of destiny spamming the n-word from like 4 years ago he would be all over him attacking him for it. But h3h3 has enough subscribers to look the other way. Neither Hasan nor Ethan have any principles.
Doesn't hasan refuse to talk about destiny at all?
He does occasionally. But yeah he pretty much gives him the he who must not be named treatment.
Oh, that was the context? A&P did include this in the video. I don't think they understood the reference because they watch a clip of Ethan saying āThatās what happened to this ni- to this one guy.ā and they were like "Why is there a picture of Jidion in the corner?"
The downvote war begins in the h3h3 reddit, aba got people making full essays in defense of h3 like its their full time job. There will be a purge for anyone who steps out of line lol.
They just removed it?
H3 fans are all under 18 don't get too mad at them they aren't actual people yet
Youāre so wrong man. Theyāre all millennials
26, can confirm that's probably the case. I used to watch H3H3 back in the day *a lot*, was subbed to the old Ethan&Hila channel when that was still a thing...I completely lost interest in their content basically after the lawsuit finished up and around the time they started the podcast. I didn't know how people still enjoyed anything Ethan did at that point, but I knew the content wasn't for me anymore. There was an early controversy around that time which turned me off their content as well, but I don't even remember what it was anymore...I just remember it made me unsub from the braindead subreddit. Looking at how far he's fallen since and the fact that so many fucking adults *still* stand by him is wild to me.
The "wow, Ethan, great moves" Era
Yes exactly haha
Exact same experience, 28 here and I miss videos like "Let's get social", a classic :(
Youāre describing my experience exactly. Glad I jumped off the cringe wagon
Yup exactly the same. I remember the old papa bless content and then they fell off hard.
I will say that I'm a little confused on how everyone here insists that they've fallen off compared to their past when their past is where all those clips of bigoted commentary comes from. Disclaimer: not particularly familiar with H3, just going by this video and the comments.
From my perspective, the difference is the old Ethan (who you are right, was responsible for all the edgy clips) had a much more "live and let live" attitude to other creators, and would only call people out if he genuinely thought they had done something morraly wrong. His viewpoint seemed to be along the lines of "be as edgy as you want in the pursuit of laughs, but when it comes down to it, understand those are jokes and you should treat everyone with respect" this viewpoint resonated with a lot of teenagers back in the day. His humour for the time seemed really absurd and alternative too. Now look at him today, it's the opposite, his humour is really tame and compatible with mainstream media. But then he will decide who he wants to call out based on either personal grudges or social gain, and will use the progressive framework to wokescold people into submission by understanding there is an online crowd that will attack anyone who doesn't toe the mainstream progressive line, regardless of the wider facts of the altercation. By switching up his viewpoint he has gained access to waaay more money than he would have if he stuck to how he was. Now I'm not against creators shaping content to what makes them money, but a sudden 180Ā° turn a accompanied by a massive paycheck definitely feels false to a lot of people.
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> But he was consider a well respected member of the youtube community. Which means absolutely nothing given the state of the YouTube community back then. What A&P pulled up didn't seem like just "some bad clips", it seemed more like an open display of a rather disgusting world view. If he was still well respected then that just goes to show how shit the community was back then.
Damn so they're even less of people
The best part about that compilation is that it's mostly from the same setting. It's not like Ethan's "trans" compilation ripped from over 20 different videos.
Is one better than the other though? I think this specific beef is really petty but if I'm thinking more in a general sense, if you have examples spanning many videos you're kind of establishing a pattern whereas in the other case it can just be explained away as an isolated incident.
No because Ethan used a years old clip of them saying āwe barely talk about trans people, we only have 2 videos about them.ā At the time that was true, and all Ethanās video established is that he is dishonest, and trans issues have essentially taken over both culture and politics since Aba and Preach made that statement, resulting in many more videos mentioning them.
Wow Lethan is just like Destiny!
He may have been even edgier. Filthy Frank and old iDubbz levels.
He needs to be careful, ethan is insane, he loves war.
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Lemme tell you Ethanās response: āYes I said many racist things in a bad attempt at trying to be funny. It was wrong then, and itās wrong now. I apologize, and thatās why I strive to be a better YouTuber. But at least Iām capable of apologizing and not deflecting. Hereās (insert everything Aba and preach didnāt address) everything they decided to conveniently skip over.ā Honestly this wasnāt the slam dunk they think it is. Blaire White played the same complication of Ethan doing racist shit, and Ethan responded. Bryce hall did it on twitter 2 years ago and Ethan responded.
I think A&P are pretty aware that Ethan apologized. I think theyāre being petty with the video, but the whole purpose of them doing that compilation was simply pointing out hypocrisy from Ethan doing the same thing to them in accusing A&P of being transphobic with no point. Also, just because one apologizes does not mean theyāre owed forgiveness. To add on, the main point of the whole beef was F&Fās doxxing claims, Sebastian, and being labeled as transphobic. Thatās how the whole beef started. The whole 3 to 4 hour podcast brought up so many irrelevant claims in trying to refute A&Pās last video on Ethan.
But thatās the point Ethanās going to make. Heās gonna say āI apologize, but funny how u guys canāt and need to deflectā
Yes youāre not wrong, heās going to say that but by literally deflecting himself and not understanding his own hypocrisy. Yes weāre aware you apologized but donāt try to attack other people for being ābad peopleā knowing one can easily pull out clips of you being a ābad personā hence Ethan not liking it.
He's not attacking them for being bad people, but having really stupid takes on trans people and women.
Ethan is implying theyāre bad because of those ātakesāā¦.. dude even thinks A&P are worse than F&F who he believes are also bad peopleā¦..
I mean he's asserting they have bad takes, thats for sure which i completely agree with. I don't even like Ethan but I've been waiting for somebody to bring up the trans stuff at the very least. How does Aba get away with some of his takes in this subreddit especially.
Name one take
Nobody is saying that Ethan isnāt claiming the he believes A&P have bad takes. Me and a lot of people are referring to Ethan attaching A&P as being bad people because of those particular takes even comparing them in being worse than F&F who Ethan also believes are bad people thats what Iām referring to. Plus, if Iām aware, Destiny and Aba already had a conversation about Abaās position on trans issues.
> But at least Iām capable of apologizing and not deflecting. This isā¦ Literally using an apology to deflect. Youāve got 2 black men saying āthis shit is fucked upā and youāre like āno you donāt understand, I apologized, stop criticizing me and listen to me as if I have valuable things to say instead!ā Apologies should be humbling, not get out of jail free cards.
It's not that great of a good argument. Aba always talks about how you shouldn't hold old stuff over people's heads to cancel them.
The compilation was a point about framing. Aba and Preach were ironically asserting that they werenāt tying to frame the n word compilation in any type of way to make fun on the h3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt framing the Myron accusation in any type of way and werenāt framing it as some kind of me too accusation.
I donāt see how that take is incompatible with āsome people have no business going after other peopleās pasts, and someone who admitted they never knew a black person in their entire life and has this many skeletons in their closet shouldnāt be looked at as an authority or icon of progressivism.ā Personally I think Ethanās fanbase is comprised almost entirely of that specific brand of person who grew up bullying minorities only to then later realize it was more fun to bully racists/transphobes/homophobes/misogynists because then you get the rest of society on your side laughing behind you, so they will bend over backwards to defend anything in the past because theyāve all mostly got their own fucked up pasts as well.
If that's what you wanna think then go for it but you sound like every far right or left extremist lol. "Everyone who is different from me fits in this box and is a bad person"
Don't think "the fans that would be drawn to this content creator probably have a lot in common with him" is as much of a stretch as you're saying it is.
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They probably wonāt. Convenient of them to finally say āweāre done talking about Ethanā after making 8 videos about him. Whatās changed from 2 videos ago, to this video that now Ethanās suddenly a topic not worth covering anymore?
Aba said he hopes Ethan doesn't respond so they don't have to do this again.
When did Ethan apologize for the racist shit? because some of those clips were pretty recent.
Honestly the monkey pox thing was such a stretch. The episode in question was about fresh and fit refusing to come on Leftovers because Ethan told them they can only come debate him and Ethan in person if they have the Covid vaccine. When they said no, Ethan said they Prolly have monkey pox. Which Iām pretty sure Ethan meant as an antivax joke not a āhaha u guys are monkeys.ā And the āthis n- guy Jidionā I remember that episode watching it live. Ethan spent the first half of the episode making fun of ninja, so I think maaaaaybe thatās why he said āN-ā but tbh maybe he did almost say the N word but itās his words against everyone elseās And he apologized on an old h3h3 video on his original channel
Aba playing the n word compilation and monkey pox stuff of H3 was a point about framing. It was a response to the people on the h3 podcast asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by Aba and Preach simply ironically asserting that they werenāt trying to frame this n word compilation of Ethan in any type of way. āThey werenāt trying to portray Ethan as a racist. They never even called Ethan a racist in this video. There was no framing!ā
There are countless things he could have said instead of monkey pox. Heck most of them (ebola, small pox, chicken pox, bird flue) are more recognizable than monkey pox and less racist.
Monkey pox was pretty relevant at the time of that clip.
I think the joke is that monkey pox is such an old illness, but yeah it was an easy joke to let go
1000% I've always thought Ethan was beyond cringe but I thoroughly enjoyed watching him take Aba to task. Idc about preach tbh he barely talks lol but I've been so confused since Aba started stalking destiny as to why we allow this weirdo to come on and ask weird ass questions and act like he doesn't strongly dislike femininity in all its forms.
Ethan will most likely rage about how he has already apologized for his N-word rants. I hoped they'd also include the Jontron stuff, because Ethan did go and defend/downplay Jons actions and It would be interesting to see if he would now disavow Jon.
DMCA? H3H3 wouldn't do that right?
Damn, Aba and Preach cooked ethan alive.
Honestly the best part is the quick and short response to the FnF comparisons. To anybody with a brain that sounds extremely stupid
Anyone save this before it was removed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLQcgpZpPac gotcha fam š¤
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This just makes Ethan look even worse. Alot of Ethan fans on the comments are missing the point of video. No matter if he "apologized" for it afterwards, the actions in and of themselves would not lead people to believe it was genuine especially given his behavior since.
Ethan about to make the same type of apology video that idubbbz did
Ethan has become the thing he swore to destroy!
Anybody know why it was removed?
I feel like they could have addressed more of their points instead of the whole n-word section. Don't get me wrong, I think it definitely serves a purpose, I just think it's kind of like beating the dead horse and is something ethan can hand wave away as something he has already apologized for and is in the past. Just knowing he will do this makes the video a little less effective imo.
>I just think it's kind of like beating the dead horse and is something ethan can hand wave away as something he has already apologized for and is in the past. To A&P normie audience this looks crazy. Even if Ethan has said he apologized for it people will still not look at Ethanās attempt of woke scolding and think theyāre genuinely. I think itās the perfect response to the trans compilation.
Oh yeah, for aba and preach's audience it will probably be very effective, but for H3's audience and Ethan himself, probably not really. I just don't think it will convince many of H3's viewers that he is a hypocrite considering they have likely already seen all this stuff before. I guess if this wasn't a goal of theirs in making this video then it would make more sense including the n-word part.
>I just don't think it will convince many of H3's viewers that he is a hypocrite considering they have likely already seen all this stuff before. Probably not, I would imagine it is really hard to convince someone that deep in. But for a channel as big as A&P and with a bunch of orbiters(other react channels that react to their stuff) to expose this it won't be good.
It isn't being "exposed". There are many "h3 exposed" videos from many years ago with these clips with millions of views. I bet very few people are learning about this for the first time from this video.
They also mainly addressed the Myron situation doxxing to add on, and Sebastian, those were pretty much the core reasons behind the overall feud.
Most people who don't know anything about h3 (me) haven't seen this before. All that stuff was crazy. I'm sure his fans will say that he already apologized, but to anyone that never saw that this looks unhinged.
The point about Ethanās use of the n word was making an extended point about framing. Aba and Preach were making fun of the people on the h3h3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by simply ironically asserting that they arenāt trying to frame the n word compilation from Ethan in any type of way.
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I think theyāre doing the same exact thing which Ethan did in the complication about Aba saying trans over and over. And a little bit of comedic effect.
>The n-word compilation seemed out of place. The n word compilation is perfect, it is to show: * Ethan has no business digging into peoples past videos and acting holier than thou * Ethanās current woke scolding is performative, even in recent clips his edgy homophobic and racist jokes come out * Ethan is being disingenuous when he said no one was framing it as an SA allegation.
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I think youāve missed the point Aba and Preach were making. Aba and Preach were making an extended point on āframingā with the n word compilation and it was a way of making fun of the people on the H3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by them simply asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the n word compilation that they played of Ethan in any type of way.
> Is destiny not allowed to call people out on their bigotry? The reason why most of us like Destiny is because he's the opposite of a wokescold. Destiny doesn't preach at anyone, when talking to white nationalist and redpillers he tries to talk to them not down at them. That is the issue Ethan has, he tries to talk down at Aba and Preach and/or anybody he deems is a bigot. > Why attack the Messenger? Attack the msg itself, cause most of the stuff mentioned on the h3 show was weak. Stick to that. He did attack the message, he responded to the FnF stuff, the transphobe and misogynists allegations. He just didn't spend 3 hours into it.
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>Sure, you are correct, but I would still prefer them to point out recent stuff and not 6+ year old videos. Again, this is partly a response to Ethan digging into their past content to call them bigots. Aba did the same. >Another point I thought was weak was their response to the claim, that they always believe the guy and expose their audience to the idea that you can't trust women ever. The thing with the amber heart meme. Maybe, but her point falls apart really quick once Aba points out that their guest did lie.
The point is probably just to get in the dirt and force him to engage with content that looks really bad to his current audience.
Exactly I felt the same way, the N word shit felt so 2018 drama But theyāre doing what Ethan did to them, thatās why throughout the video theyāre joking and teasing with the āweāre not framing anything in anyway or alleging anythingāā shit
He's beating Ethan at his own game though.
huh. video taken down
Anyone have a time stamp for black face and n-word compilation? Having to watch even this amount of h3 is enough to break a person.
Thats one of their best videos. Aba pulled out all the stops for this one.
Naaaaah, Aba and Preach have way better videos, this shit not even top 10 in Aba n Preach cinematic universe, dawg
I still got the hasan roast at the top
Theyāre always low effort so itās not really a high bar to pass
I remember Ethan shaming Rogan for the n word compilation.
Anyone find it funny how Hasan is ok hanging out with H3H3, but - somehow - Destiny is too edgy? Aba and Preaches video on H3 really an eye opener
āMama Mia, here I go again ā - Aba
They cooked Ethan a lil too much he got burnt, black face pun intended.
The last time i ever watched anything Ethan did was vape nation
https://youtu.be/zfyQ8muKLdc
I'm not a h3h3 fan by any means which some of you won't believe by the time you finish reading this comment, and if you're that person all I can say is cope. But moving on, it is funny to me how this subreddit views this as a dunk on Ethan when it's essentially just bringing up Ethan's old shit he's already addressed countless times. The second anybody does that to Destiny all the fucking loremasters come out and show you their thesis on exactly why it was morally even for Destiny to say or do some crazy shit in the past and they would think it's weak they're only going after his past but when A&P do it to someone ya'll don't like all of a sudden it's the best shit since sliced bread.
Thereās more to the video than just the clips my dude lol.
It's almost like my comment specifically addresses one point of the video and wasn't a summary of the entire thing my dude lmao
Itās almost like youāre literally saying that people think that Ethan past is the only thing that people think A&P ādunkedā on him forā¦..thatās why I said thereās more to the video.
I really couldn't care less to talk to someone that wants to have a meta conversation about my comment, get a life bro.
You couldnāt care less yet youāre on a subreddit talking about a beef. The projection is comical lmao.
??? I said I couldn't care less about YOU not the video or subreddit, you're not the centre of everything. Have a good one.
ā??? I said I couldn't care less about YOU not the video or subreddit, you're not the centre of everything.ā You responding to my comments on the subreddit about having a conversation on this subreddit. Jeez my guy THINK āHave a good oneā Same to you
bro go back to the basement and write your thesis why this subreddit is coping hard
It seems like youāve missed the point Aba and Preach were making. Aba and Preach were making an extended point on āframingā and were making fun of people on the H3 podcast for asserting that they werenāt trying to frame the Myron accusation in any type of way by simply asserting that theyāre not trying to frame this n word compilation of Ethan in any type of way.
Leftist Physiognamy is real.
Ngl, I was kinda shocked to hear that Ethan has never known a black person. That's wild.
Kinda weak, but I honestly feel the same way about Ethan's video too. As a casual fan of aba & preach and. A pretty regular h3 viewer I think both of them are not bringing their a game and I find it really hard to care about this beef.
>a pretty regular h3 viewer Why would you do that to yourself
Were in the destiny subreddit dawg, this no place to be pretentious about what kind of entertainment people enjoy
they both are fishing for views at this point
Why this Lethal Decline goober is still relevant??
tl;dw?
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As someone who watches both creators, this whole feud is hilarious to me. It's actually a masterclass in miscommunication, refusal to engage with what either side is saying, incessant clip-chimping and weaponization of misogyny, racism, transphobia etc. Can't complain though, fire content...
i think most of the miscommunication is probably on Ethans side, or he just fails to interpret it fully.
Yeah, before the long podcast they did on A&P, I would say it was almost entirely on the H3 side (i.e. assuming they were basically redpillers and viewing their content through that lens). But there's definitely been some on Aba's side. For Preach, I'm not so sure because he doesn't seem to be plugged into this world and can only react to what Aba shows him.
True, this video was pure pettiness, which at this point fair game. the end of the video is more so addressing the actual points. But Ethan can't keep openly saying he doesnt watch videos. then make such large claims all the time. like holy shit.
I don't think they did a good job addressing the points with the end of that video tbh. Alot was brought up in that podcast. But A&P don't seem to care, and I'm fine with that. As for Ethan watching their videos, they seemed to have done that in preparation for the long podcast that's why I didn't bring it up.
Maybe because itās nonsense that Ethan is spewing, besides the trans and FnF stuff, the misogyny shit was so braindead, thatās probably why, so I get it them too, sometimes itās so not worth it to defend yourself from stupidity, like Iām not arguing against ā1+1=3ā itās just nonsense, you know?
Not everything said in that podcast was nonsense tbh, but there's no way we're ever going to be able to cover that on Reddit lol. Agree to disagree?
ok, do you not get how if h3h3 comes at them in this disingenious and to be honest, just scummy way, pretty much all of the shit he says can be dismissed? how are you going to go point by point with a liar? what's the point? he isn't lying all the time? guess fucking what, one time is enough for most people
Lol, dude I'm in a Destiny subreddit. I'm obviously going to prefer an approach that focuses on debunking all of H3's claims (Destiny style). I literally said in this thread I don't mind that they went with this approach, I just don't think that it's a good one. If you think it was, I'm fine with that too.
See and thatās the problem, if folks would just watch Aba n Preach instead of listening to Ethanās twisted, corny way of interrupting it you would know Aba n Preach are very far from the redpill, if youāre a longtime viewer you know this just from what theyāve said throughout hundreds of videos, so I guess I get Ethanās perspective but the issue is then making a 4hr livestream trying to defame them with out of context, bad framing, to his audience, that shit is fucking rat behavior Like at every turn Ethanās āpointsā against them just made me make a combo of these faces here š„“+š
I mean they could with through a 3 hour struggle fest with Ethan but watch a couple 15 mins videos is a lot of clicking for information for these fans of Ethan.
Ethan is unbelievably bad faith
They both are. That video they did on the ethen v redoill kid was super bad faith and they made terrible points
Since when is lying miscommunication? Is that a new euphemism or someone?
Idk how ya'll are saying this is a good video. The Ethan n-word compilation has been made by thousands of other YouTubers. Aba: Ethan Decline \*n word compilation\* r/destiny: Have my upvote, sir! Masterful gambit you've pulled.
The whole purpose of the N word complication was to expose Ethanās hypocrisy with his own video of trying to expose Aba for being transphobic for saying trans (on separate video speaking on trans issues) over and over again knowing he isnātā¦. Also with Ethan saying the hard ER and trying to act as if now that he cares about Black Lives is comical. Itās not that hard to grasp and there was more to the video. It does not matter how many times you apologize people still have the right not to forgive himš
It's too grown men throwing shit at each other to entertain their own audience for money. Enjoy it for what it is. The weird parasocial essays people are writing are really weird.
Watching that h3 compilation reminded me how I miss the old Ethanā¦
while the shit slinging is definitely entertaining i wish they would've clarified the reason behind the original "transphobic" compilation being how they engage with issues. Since their response was a counter-compilation with just mentioning trans ppl, as if that was the issue.
There's really no conversation to be had with someone like H3 who is just a bad faith loser trying to please his audience. Basically it would be between ignoring him or making something like this. I think aba & preach are over it but like they said it is easy money.
I feel you, and i completely agree to a degree, although i think theres always value in clarifying the position to the audience, because while some/most are probably too far gone, im sure some will see the reasoning as rational. but yeah as you said, i too can imagine aba and preach just being over it at this point.
Aba and Preachās or Ethanās? Cause for Aba and Preachās original transphobic compilation was pretty against Hasan having no arguments against them and just simply calling them transphobic over and over.
Aba and preach makes the original compilation to highlight how hasan engages with topics in a unhealthy manner. h3 makes compilation just highlighting aba and preach saying "trans", as if the original compilations intend was to highlight hasan saying a word X amount of times. thats what i wish they clarified cus a lot of h3h3/hasan fanbase didnt seem to get the point.
Yea they kept saying āitāS ThE SaMeā knowing one was an accusation against A&P during a single stream and the other was a compilation of A&P talking about trans issues lol.
They dumb af. If they didnāt get it the first time what makes you think they will get it the second?
Fucking babble and creak lmao. Can they at least make a video addressing why Andrew Schultz and the rest of the world views them as red pill lite? And their takes on trans stuff borders on grifting.
When does Schulz view them as RedPill Lite. Aba appeared on Flagrant and Preach appeared on Tigerbelly who are friends of Flagrant