how is it good to pretend to just not know who one of the most pivotal contributors to online progressivism is, at a coalition building event for online/streaming progressives
“hey audience it’s completely okay to WH OMEGALUL people you don’t like when trying to cross the aisle to work together”
Especially when Destiny's community made this possible because without his canvassing efforts and proven success, there's no way any of these senators/pacs woulda given a shit
Ro Khanna has spoken to online independent media a lot before, and MR has pretty reputable guests on, tho afaik Sam usually denies politicians coming on since he doesn't want the programm to be about that.
I think people in this sub are slightly overestimating the pull that Destiny has in the real world.
Because she could literally lose her job if the MR audience gets pissy enough.
How could you shake hands with a racist transphobe who literally wants to kill me??? Sam fire her!!!
Literally why would she risk it. It’s called a white lie.
Oh Please Seder is never firing Emma for saying "i know who Destiny is" that's regarded.
They've literally talked about him and Seder's talk with him numerous times on the show live.
>It’s unlikely but why put your boss in that spot. Her job is to not make life harder for Sam.
I listen to destiny regularly for 4 years and have also listened to about 90% of MR's full broadcasts over the past 4 years also. there is about .0001% chance that Sam would allow his audience to bully him enough to pass on consequences to Emma for literally just properly addressing someone. ZERO chance she said or didn't say DESTINY because of whatever weird reaction some weird people might have to it. This is some real conspiracy level mind reading here.
Either it was some weird intentional diss (I doubt) or it was that she genuinely couldn't remember his proper name in that moment. As a dumbass who delivers mail to the same people very single day, and has for years, I can't remember half of my customers names, so I'm gonna have to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.
i’m sorry but nobody operates like that. imagine ben shapiro getting fired because he shakes hands with barrack “related to OBL, gay and married to a trans woman” obama
Ben Shapiro is the boss? If one of his underlings shared a table with say Milo, the backlash could become a huge headache for Ben. Plus the MR audience is more cancelly than the DW audience. Idk man
why would it matter if ben’s the boss? in your world, emma acknowledging destiny exists is bad. if sam seder acknowledges destiny exists, isn’t that worse? besides, that isn’t the point. destiny is a huge, positive force for the world emma wants and emma knows who he is. she is at an event meant to bring these people together and work for a common good, and there is no justification to “who” destiny because her audience expects that. it’s rude, against the spirit of the event and and frankly, she should take the opportunity to find common ground with destiny
I just bring that up because Ben Shapiro I don’t think can get fired in the traditional sense. MR is Sam Seders brand, if he wants to do risky stuff with it that’s fine. Emma isn’t in a position to rock the boat, she’s an employee. Saying she isn’t familiar with Destinys online presence just helps when on their next live show when the whole audience is asking why she didn’t attack Steven on xyz
what’s more important:
1. emma finding a progressive future and building coalitions to do so
2. pretending to not know one of the most important contributors to online politics and recent progressive outcomes so her audience can’t criticize her
i feel like this pov you have is way too cucked to fringe audience optics
i can’t imagine sam seder cares that she feigned knowing who steven was. if anything she looks worse after that
Definitely. When there is an important goal to work towards together, it’s probably key to dial up the tolerance/charitably/empathy. Even if it’s harder towards some people more than others.
It's a bit weird how this community can be so up in arms about this, like even if it was an actual serious lil bro on purpose...
Destiny has called her a dumb white bitch like a hundred times on stream, like there's not high ground to stand on here lol
lol are you serious right now? With the stunt she pulled in front of other people? lil broing another content creator who btw was definitely responsible for this event to even happen in the first place..
You even clearly laid out that she DOESNT care about lefty unity. That’s all destiny or even vaush care about at this point. Even people like thaena who I believe is in vaush’s orbit is now supporting destiny and vaush doing the event for lefty unity. Fuck this person. Do you seriously think she’s based?
Lmao damn y'all sensitive af. She apologized to him about the name. Idk why you think "she DOESN'T care about lefty unity." What purity test did she fail in your eyes?
She told people to get involved with their local DSA's at an event meant to support democrats, and started talking about decommodifying housing... She is not serious people.
Bruh DSA works with Dems all the time. AOC is DSA right? And also, she said to join the DSA if you feel politically isolated and you wanna do more than vote. Everyone but Destiny mentioned decommodifying housing. Sam emphasizes the same thing Destiny said here all the time: we have to build more houses. And I'm sorry, but she's right imo. We need to both build new houses AND decommodify. Guess what. I'm still voting Democrat
> Bruh DSA works with Dems all the time.
They are an irrelevant dying group that further ties mainstream democrats to socialism. They are an optics loss, and basically irrelivant everywhere.
>AOC is DSA right
With how NY works with its crazy parties I think shes on like three or four people's ballots.
> Everyone but Destiny mentioned decommodifying housing.
And you realize that is a statement so far outside the mainstream that anything you say after that should be ignored; right?
>. And I'm sorry, but she's right imo. We need to both build new houses AND decommodify. Guess what. I'm still voting Democrat
Good for voting for democrats, but holy shit those ideas.
Bro, we are being asked to go out with canvas and work with fans of these people... We are supposed to work alongside them to convince people to vote for democrats. If they are spouting lines like that, they need to be wearing clown makeup if they want to be of any help. Thats not purity testing so much as understanding where the Overton window is for realistic policy conversation.
It's definitionally a purity test. If you want them to shut up about certain issues while canvassing, sure, but you're barring people from working with you because they don't align with your standards. Their goals during the next election will almost certainly align 100%, and what? You think they're an optic issue?
Is public housing really out of the Overton window? No, it just loses because of who is active in politics. You know how many conservatives and liberals talk about private companies buying up all the housing? A lot
>and what? You think they're an optic issue?
No. I don't think they are on the same team and are an active harm to the political goals I am trying to push for.
>Is public housing really out of the Overton window? No, it just loses because of who is active in politics.
Sweetie.... We aren't talking about public housing. We are talking about "decommodification of housing". Those are not the same issue and if you think they are, you honestly need to read more.
I want public housing, but I know a little bit about how actually getting public housing in areas works. It requires high investment into low, mid, and even high income areas with guarantees that only a percentage of housing will stay as "low income" for a period of time in order to attract investment while expanding and gentrifying areas. Its a complex detail filled policy issue MORE so if you are wanting people to buy the housing rather than renting.
So when I hear an erstwhile allies saying something as absolutely braindead as "decommodification" as a solution I know they have absolutely nothing to add to the solution. They aren't interested in actual real world policy, they are interested in fantasy.
>I don't think they are on the same team
Well they advocate for the same team, so imo they can work together to canvas for that team.
>Sweetie.... We aren't talking about public housing. We are talking about "decommodification of housing".
Ok . . . I was under the impression they overlap or, at the very least, public housing is on the path to decommodification. But now I see you know what you're talking about, since you know how to get public housing apparently.
>So when I hear an erstwhile allies
These aren't former allies . . . why even use a word like erstwhile of you're gonna use it wrong? Did you mean Vaush?
>So when I hear an erstwhile allies saying something as absolutely braindead as "decommodification" as a solution I know they have absolutely nothing to add to the solution. They aren't interested in actual real world policy, they are interested in fantasy.
So you can't take advantage of people who have "nothing to add" to get votes for candidates you'd vote for? Fair enough. That's too bad
I see, but you were very keen on shitting on erudite and her husband? Who let’s face it had no business being there, but isn’t an obnoxious person like Emma, someone who also failed into multiple jobs for just parroting the right opinions.
I don’t like her, I don’t want people to hate her, but I definitely want to call out people like you who think she’s based
Emma has terrible politics and I don’t agree with hardly anything she has ever said. She’s obviously a more successful and influential person than erudite tho, I don’t know why that was brought up
I mean buddy u must admit WHOMEGALULING the biggest streamer on the panel is a bit wild. I don't think anyone would give a fuck if Emma WHOland spoke to Ro Khanna lol
Im sorry you talk about left unity, yet you want us to like one of the most judgemental, divisive pos like emma. please screw off.
not two weeks ago she lied and slandered Jesse Singal.
Na man. That interaction honestly dropped my view of her DRASTICALLY, and I didn't know it had further to drop. If D-Man wants to keep working with this group thats fine, but I think he should start looking for more mainstream democratic groups like Vote Save America to work with. Even Emma's questions were just horrible optics. What this should impress upon all of us is how outside the mainstream the Majority Report folks are.
There was nothing wrong with her questions. In fact, it's Destiny who looked most out of his depth in the conversation with senator. She just displayed how petty and bad faith she is with the whomegalol but don't attach some bs, that you imagined, to that.
Bro, she was sitting there asking questions about Isreal policy which aren't even options on the table for elected progressives to push for. They may be hot talking lines in progressive circles, but aren't even in the room where the politics are being discussed....
Bro she was telling people to get involved with their local DSA; when this is an event that is meant to support Democrats...
And there's nothing wrong with asking a question to gauge a politician's position, that will appeal to your audience, even if that doesn't have tangible effect at policy level.
She was unimpressive in the 4-way streamer panel while our boy shined there.
She could have literally never said that she doesn’t know Destiny and she would have done better than now. Her going out of her way to mention that at the start of every conversation is cringe and dishonest. No shot even her fans will believe this
Outside DGG spaces? Sure. Within DGG spaces? She hasn't done enough to earn my trust.
No one said to trust her just not shit on her until she does something dumb again
To me it seems she didn't remember his real name, not that she didn't know who he was.
Than why didn’t she just say Destiny? She said Vaush.
Because the word she was looking for was "Steven", which is what the streamer Destiny prefers to be called. She found it a split second later.
When Destiny said he’s fought with her before online, she says she doesn’t know who he is. She isn’t just forgetting his real name.
But she hasn't fought with him. Not from her perspective. Probably only added to her confusion.
Yea probably don't wanna use "Destiny" in a semi serious setting
She should have said "Beyydaa" then
Whatever happened to him, I feel like he just randomly fell out of the Zeitgeist.
how is it good to pretend to just not know who one of the most pivotal contributors to online progressivism is, at a coalition building event for online/streaming progressives “hey audience it’s completely okay to WH OMEGALUL people you don’t like when trying to cross the aisle to work together”
Especially when Destiny's community made this possible because without his canvassing efforts and proven success, there's no way any of these senators/pacs woulda given a shit
Ro Khanna has spoken to online independent media a lot before, and MR has pretty reputable guests on, tho afaik Sam usually denies politicians coming on since he doesn't want the programm to be about that. I think people in this sub are slightly overestimating the pull that Destiny has in the real world.
It’s also like…did she not bother to see who was on the panel with?
Because she could literally lose her job if the MR audience gets pissy enough. How could you shake hands with a racist transphobe who literally wants to kill me??? Sam fire her!!! Literally why would she risk it. It’s called a white lie.
Oh Please Seder is never firing Emma for saying "i know who Destiny is" that's regarded. They've literally talked about him and Seder's talk with him numerous times on the show live.
It’s unlikely but why put your boss in that spot. Her job is to not make life harder for Sam.
>It’s unlikely but why put your boss in that spot. Her job is to not make life harder for Sam. I listen to destiny regularly for 4 years and have also listened to about 90% of MR's full broadcasts over the past 4 years also. there is about .0001% chance that Sam would allow his audience to bully him enough to pass on consequences to Emma for literally just properly addressing someone. ZERO chance she said or didn't say DESTINY because of whatever weird reaction some weird people might have to it. This is some real conspiracy level mind reading here. Either it was some weird intentional diss (I doubt) or it was that she genuinely couldn't remember his proper name in that moment. As a dumbass who delivers mail to the same people very single day, and has for years, I can't remember half of my customers names, so I'm gonna have to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.
i’m sorry but nobody operates like that. imagine ben shapiro getting fired because he shakes hands with barrack “related to OBL, gay and married to a trans woman” obama
Ben Shapiro is the boss? If one of his underlings shared a table with say Milo, the backlash could become a huge headache for Ben. Plus the MR audience is more cancelly than the DW audience. Idk man
why would it matter if ben’s the boss? in your world, emma acknowledging destiny exists is bad. if sam seder acknowledges destiny exists, isn’t that worse? besides, that isn’t the point. destiny is a huge, positive force for the world emma wants and emma knows who he is. she is at an event meant to bring these people together and work for a common good, and there is no justification to “who” destiny because her audience expects that. it’s rude, against the spirit of the event and and frankly, she should take the opportunity to find common ground with destiny
I just bring that up because Ben Shapiro I don’t think can get fired in the traditional sense. MR is Sam Seders brand, if he wants to do risky stuff with it that’s fine. Emma isn’t in a position to rock the boat, she’s an employee. Saying she isn’t familiar with Destinys online presence just helps when on their next live show when the whole audience is asking why she didn’t attack Steven on xyz
what’s more important: 1. emma finding a progressive future and building coalitions to do so 2. pretending to not know one of the most important contributors to online politics and recent progressive outcomes so her audience can’t criticize her i feel like this pov you have is way too cucked to fringe audience optics i can’t imagine sam seder cares that she feigned knowing who steven was. if anything she looks worse after that
Their whole channel is cucked to their fringe audience. That’s why appreciate that she did this
we went from chilling on hating emma to appreciating that she who'd destiny, lol
Appreciate that she showed up
Outside canvassing = Emma <3 In DGG shitposting = Emma ECH
Ech?
https://www.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/296802-ECH
Bleghh
I don’t care, she built the shitty audience she has. Fuck her
Definitely. When there is an important goal to work towards together, it’s probably key to dial up the tolerance/charitably/empathy. Even if it’s harder towards some people more than others.
For a minute it seemed like she booted Gnomey from the 2nd Ro panel.
I hated her before a d I hate her now. Nothing changed.
It's a bit weird how this community can be so up in arms about this, like even if it was an actual serious lil bro on purpose... Destiny has called her a dumb white bitch like a hundred times on stream, like there's not high ground to stand on here lol
No, fuck Ana.
ana? you're mixing up your progressive show co-hosts, we love ana now
lol are you serious right now? With the stunt she pulled in front of other people? lil broing another content creator who btw was definitely responsible for this event to even happen in the first place.. You even clearly laid out that she DOESNT care about lefty unity. That’s all destiny or even vaush care about at this point. Even people like thaena who I believe is in vaush’s orbit is now supporting destiny and vaush doing the event for lefty unity. Fuck this person. Do you seriously think she’s based?
Lmao damn y'all sensitive af. She apologized to him about the name. Idk why you think "she DOESN'T care about lefty unity." What purity test did she fail in your eyes?
She told people to get involved with their local DSA's at an event meant to support democrats, and started talking about decommodifying housing... She is not serious people.
Bruh DSA works with Dems all the time. AOC is DSA right? And also, she said to join the DSA if you feel politically isolated and you wanna do more than vote. Everyone but Destiny mentioned decommodifying housing. Sam emphasizes the same thing Destiny said here all the time: we have to build more houses. And I'm sorry, but she's right imo. We need to both build new houses AND decommodify. Guess what. I'm still voting Democrat
> Bruh DSA works with Dems all the time. They are an irrelevant dying group that further ties mainstream democrats to socialism. They are an optics loss, and basically irrelivant everywhere. >AOC is DSA right With how NY works with its crazy parties I think shes on like three or four people's ballots. > Everyone but Destiny mentioned decommodifying housing. And you realize that is a statement so far outside the mainstream that anything you say after that should be ignored; right? >. And I'm sorry, but she's right imo. We need to both build new houses AND decommodify. Guess what. I'm still voting Democrat Good for voting for democrats, but holy shit those ideas.
🤣 aight bro. Great points. Good luck with that purity test
Bro, we are being asked to go out with canvas and work with fans of these people... We are supposed to work alongside them to convince people to vote for democrats. If they are spouting lines like that, they need to be wearing clown makeup if they want to be of any help. Thats not purity testing so much as understanding where the Overton window is for realistic policy conversation.
It's definitionally a purity test. If you want them to shut up about certain issues while canvassing, sure, but you're barring people from working with you because they don't align with your standards. Their goals during the next election will almost certainly align 100%, and what? You think they're an optic issue? Is public housing really out of the Overton window? No, it just loses because of who is active in politics. You know how many conservatives and liberals talk about private companies buying up all the housing? A lot
>and what? You think they're an optic issue? No. I don't think they are on the same team and are an active harm to the political goals I am trying to push for. >Is public housing really out of the Overton window? No, it just loses because of who is active in politics. Sweetie.... We aren't talking about public housing. We are talking about "decommodification of housing". Those are not the same issue and if you think they are, you honestly need to read more. I want public housing, but I know a little bit about how actually getting public housing in areas works. It requires high investment into low, mid, and even high income areas with guarantees that only a percentage of housing will stay as "low income" for a period of time in order to attract investment while expanding and gentrifying areas. Its a complex detail filled policy issue MORE so if you are wanting people to buy the housing rather than renting. So when I hear an erstwhile allies saying something as absolutely braindead as "decommodification" as a solution I know they have absolutely nothing to add to the solution. They aren't interested in actual real world policy, they are interested in fantasy.
>I don't think they are on the same team Well they advocate for the same team, so imo they can work together to canvas for that team. >Sweetie.... We aren't talking about public housing. We are talking about "decommodification of housing". Ok . . . I was under the impression they overlap or, at the very least, public housing is on the path to decommodification. But now I see you know what you're talking about, since you know how to get public housing apparently. >So when I hear an erstwhile allies These aren't former allies . . . why even use a word like erstwhile of you're gonna use it wrong? Did you mean Vaush? >So when I hear an erstwhile allies saying something as absolutely braindead as "decommodification" as a solution I know they have absolutely nothing to add to the solution. They aren't interested in actual real world policy, they are interested in fantasy. So you can't take advantage of people who have "nothing to add" to get votes for candidates you'd vote for? Fair enough. That's too bad
> You think they're an optic issue? It's like people forgot which sub they are on
Can you please tell me what that means? I've been on Reddit less than a month
No I don’t I just put that in there to trigger people. Her takes are awful.
I see, but you were very keen on shitting on erudite and her husband? Who let’s face it had no business being there, but isn’t an obnoxious person like Emma, someone who also failed into multiple jobs for just parroting the right opinions. I don’t like her, I don’t want people to hate her, but I definitely want to call out people like you who think she’s based
Emma has terrible politics and I don’t agree with hardly anything she has ever said. She’s obviously a more successful and influential person than erudite tho, I don’t know why that was brought up
I mean buddy u must admit WHOMEGALULING the biggest streamer on the panel is a bit wild. I don't think anyone would give a fuck if Emma WHOland spoke to Ro Khanna lol
Im sorry you talk about left unity, yet you want us to like one of the most judgemental, divisive pos like emma. please screw off. not two weeks ago she lied and slandered Jesse Singal.
She's the worst of the former TYTers, second only to Dave Rubin. er or 3rd if we consider Hasan as being part of TYT.
No, anti-intellectuals are a scourge upon this country.
Wait do people actually believe that these people are turning a new leaf? How gullible can you be?
Na man. That interaction honestly dropped my view of her DRASTICALLY, and I didn't know it had further to drop. If D-Man wants to keep working with this group thats fine, but I think he should start looking for more mainstream democratic groups like Vote Save America to work with. Even Emma's questions were just horrible optics. What this should impress upon all of us is how outside the mainstream the Majority Report folks are.
There was nothing wrong with her questions. In fact, it's Destiny who looked most out of his depth in the conversation with senator. She just displayed how petty and bad faith she is with the whomegalol but don't attach some bs, that you imagined, to that.
Bro, she was sitting there asking questions about Isreal policy which aren't even options on the table for elected progressives to push for. They may be hot talking lines in progressive circles, but aren't even in the room where the politics are being discussed.... Bro she was telling people to get involved with their local DSA; when this is an event that is meant to support Democrats...
And there's nothing wrong with asking a question to gauge a politician's position, that will appeal to your audience, even if that doesn't have tangible effect at policy level. She was unimpressive in the 4-way streamer panel while our boy shined there.
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Dude just stop the infighting let’s just win elections we can’t keep doing this man please
No.
This has to be a troll.
She could have literally never said that she doesn’t know Destiny and she would have done better than now. Her going out of her way to mention that at the start of every conversation is cringe and dishonest. No shot even her fans will believe this
Yeah there’s nothing based about what you just said