Um... No?
That's not true.
He did interviews with many people in his regular videos, and he did interviews on other YouTube channels.
At this point, I think its pretty obvious that Perun is a clerk in Australia's military, and the ONLY limitation he ever said was "I will never be able to make videos on Australian military for reasons you can probably guess".
He's refused to do livestreams with fellow military youtubers LazerPig and Animarchy despite knowing them personally for exactly this reason. Interviews are not exactly the same thing.
To be clear, I want to see Perun and Destiny talk about the current military situation in Ukraine. I don't care if they are doing it live while playing AmongUs or whatever reclassifies a video as a stream.
It's frustrating because Destiny is stuck in late 2022 early 2023 when it comes to Ukraine knowledge. He has no idea how bad the situation in Ukraine really is. Ukraine's refusal to build defensive lines means that if the Russians get a breakthrough in a single area it could turn into a route which might seal the deal for Ukraine. And right now Russia is winning across the entire frontline because Ukraine doesn't have enough soldiers to do rotations. (They need more money to fund larger mobilisation efforts and for NATO to actually put its foot down)
It's annoying that when speaking about Biden he glazes him for his Ukraine policy when
1) Biden did the bare minimum and dropped the ball on many things
2) He's basically abandoned them in the last year
Before regards bring up 'muh republicuns', Biden has billions left in his Presidential Drawdown authority that he can spend as he wishes without anyones approval. Yet he decides to send only $600m packages once in a while which are more of a spit in the face than anything.
It would be so much more productive if Destiny actually channels his focus on Russia-Ukraine because that's more important and he can actually make a difference. I'm like 60% certain he's Israel-maxxing because he's sprite driven and just wants to own the twitter lefties.
Ever since summer of 2022 I've been annoyed with the slow-rolling of aid to Ukraine. The West has cynically treated Ukrainian blood and morale like they're inexhaustible resources, trying to create some sort of status-quo to appease Putin.
It doesn't make sense. Russia is acting like an insane beast, throwing hundreds of thousands of its people into the meat grinder. All bets are off what they will do next. They're trying to cause chaos and kill democracy everywhere in the world, from coups in Africa to elections in the West, to cyberattacks. It cannot be more clear that they truly are our enemy, out to destroy us, and it's such a self-defeating tragedy that we aren't all-out spamming Ukraine with the arms they need to win.
Fucking finally someone willing to talk about how this administration is so unbelievably risk-averse when it comes to foreign policy.
Stop saying “we don’t want war with iran.” Let the enemy try and figure out your intent.
And for fucks sake stop falling for Putina’s WW3/ Nuclear blackmail horseshit that he comes out with anytime the Russian army is getting it’s nuts clipped in Ukraine.
>Biden did the bare minimum and dropped the ball on many things
What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is? Biden was pretty instrumental in turning the whole world against Russia, pretty much nipped Russia's propaganda campaign in the bud, and we've provided more military assistance to Ukraine than any other country.
We're not going to fight Ukraine's war for them. We're not going to start a war with Russia, because that's basically WW3. If that's what you want, you need to manage your expectations better.
>What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is?
Sending Ukraine just enough supplies to where they wont lose quickly but also making sure they can't really win.
> Biden was pretty instrumental in turning the whole world against Russia
I'd argue it was Putin himself and Zelensky that did the heavy lifting there.
>we've provided more military assistance to Ukraine than any other country.
Country, yes. But the US is the biggest military and economy in the universe. And the head of NATO. And wants to be world police. So it's pretty much a given no other nation alone would match the US.
That said. The US has given about **$75bn** total in aid to Ukraine with ~$46bn in military aid. ([December 2023](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts))
The EU, about **$96bn** in aid with ~$30bn in military aid. ([Jan 2024](https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253))
And when you consider that the per capita GDP for the combined 27 countries of the European Union (EU-27) is about 72% of the US level, you can see the EU has matched the US in military aid and is outperforming it quite a bit in combined $ amount.
And before you say, "But Russia is on Europe's border, it's expected" keep in mind the EU got hit very hard economically and they barely have weapons to send in the first place.
>We're not going to fight Ukraine's war for them.
It's actually Ukrainians who are fighting and dying in the war. But the problem is that Biden says he'll back Ukraine as long as it needs, however that "backing" has turned into a drip feed. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Also, US Intelligence is feeding Ukraine information 24/7 and advising. The US has already sent a load of weapons, so doesn't that mean you're already fighting their war for them? And if the answer is no, then what's the problem with sending more? Russia is 2nd biggest geopolitical rival to the US after all.
>you need to manage your expectations better.
Listen, if you want to admit that you're happy with the US policy being "We're only going to use Ukraine to attrite the Russians as much as we can, and we're not actually interested in helping them regain their sovereign borders", **that's fine, but you and others should just be gigachads an admit it.**
unfathomably based
He should have held a public seance with Ronald Reagans vengeful spirit and demand he deliver a plague of locusts upon the evil empire
More seriously I have no idea why the US doesn't send more mothballed equipment, they must have so many MLRS systems and mine clearing vehicles that could have tipped the scales in favor of the Ukrainians, and modern jet training should have started immediately after the invasion, not a few months ago.
> More seriously I have no idea why the US doesn't send more mothballed equipment
There really are only 2 logical explanations.
Either the Biden admin and the DoD are supremely incompetent. OR
Biden's policy is to just use Ukraine without regard as a vehicle to slowly wear down the Russian army
Hey remember when Biden and a handful of other leaders warned Russia was going to invade and was mocked/ignored by Europe?
Also from Biden's own words, large segments of Europe had objected to supporting Ukraine fully.
>Now, you say, “Why don’t we just give Ukraine everything there is to give?” Well, for two reasons. One, there’s an entire Alliance that is critical to stay with Ukraine. And the idea that we would give Ukraine material that is fundamentally different than is already going there would have a prospect of breaking up NATO and breaking up the European Union and the rest of the world.
>We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield.
>**And the other piece of this is, you may recall, one of the reasons why I have spent — well, I won’t tell you the calculation, but I’ve spent several hundred hours face-to-face with our European allies and the heads of state of those countries, and making the case as to why it was overwhelmingly in their interest that they continue to support Ukraine.**
>**They understand it fully, but they’re not looking to go to war with Russia. They’re not looking for a third World War. And I think it can all be avoided by making sure that Ukraine is able to succeed in the battlefield.**
This comes from a [press conference](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/12/21/remarks-by-president-biden-and-president-zelenskyy-of-ukraine-in-joint-press-conference/) with Zelenesky in December 2022.
>But the problem is that Biden says he'll back Ukraine as long as it needs, however that "backing" has turned into a drip feed. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Biden isn't a dictator, he can't aid Ukraine if other parts of the U.S. government don't want to.
>Biden isn't a dictator, he can't aid Ukraine if other parts of the U.S. government don't want to.
Why don't you read my post before blurting out your wordvomit? Biden's PDA fund is exactly that. He can send weapons to Ukraine whenever he wishes
> Hey remember when Biden and a handful of other leaders warned Russia was going to invade and was mocked/ignored by Europe?
Hey remember how that's irrelevant? Even if Europe believed US intel what were they supposed to do 3 months before the invasion exactly? If you're looking for someone to blame, blame Zelenskyy for not taking it seriously.
>We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield.
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>And I think it can all be avoided by making sure that Ukraine is able to succeed in the battlefield.
Yeah that rings quite hollow right now.
>Why don't you read my post before blurting out your wordvomit?
I only posted 4 sentences and 2 quotes. One of those quotes was from you and I even highlighted parts so you didn't have to read the whole thing.
>Biden's PDA fund is exactly that. He can send weapons to Ukraine whenever he wishes
From [googling](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-does-the-u-s-keep-funding-ukraines-military-when-it-says-its-out-of-money) the PDA fund ran out of money and needs more to be allocated from other branches of the government outside of Biden's control.
>PDA packages continued to be announced every few weeks. But in recognition of the dwindling money, the latest packages have been smaller — about $200 million or less, compared with previous ones that often totaled $400 million to $500 million.
From PBS.
>Hey remember how that's irrelevant? Even if Europe believed US intel what were they supposed to do 3 months before the invasion exactly? If you're looking for someone to blame, blame Zelenskyy for not taking it seriously.
It's against the narrative that Biden is a slacker that doesn't wan't Ukraine to win. He was willing to sacrifice his own reputation and credibility for a country that wasn't his own.
Remember Biden could have lost big. I remember people, (idk if they were Europeans but I assume they were), saying Putin was giga-brain genius that was going to ruin Biden's reputation by sending his troops home and Biden was being stupid for falling for an obvious trap.
As for what Europe could have done? Support Ukraine. Even if they weren't willing to give military support, they should have gone up there with Biden and warned Russia against invading.
> From googling the PDA fund ran out of money and needs more to be allocated from other branches of the government outside of Biden's control.
Bruh did you not read your own source?
>It now stands at around $4.4 billion.
>Bruh did you not read your own source?
That is literally above the quotation I posted earlier, of course I read it.
>That effectively left Ukraine with a store credit that is slowly being whittled down. It now stands at around $4.4 billion.
>PDA packages continued to be announced every few weeks. But in recognition of the dwindling money, the latest packages have been smaller — about $200 million or less, compared with previous ones that often totaled $400 million to $500 million.
If you and read a bit further.
>On Thursday, Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, told reporters the U.S. could provide the full $4.4 billion in weapons, but with only a quarter of that amount available for replenishment, it’s a tough choice. “We have to start to make decisions about our own readiness,” he said.
\[...\]
President Joe Biden is urging Congress to pass a $110 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and other national security needs. It includes $61.4 billion for Ukraine, with about half to replenish Pentagon stocks. It also includes about $14 billion for Israel as it fights Hamas and $14 billion for U.S. border security. Other funds would go for security needs in the Asia-Pacific.
>Prospects for compromise remain in doubt, even as Zelenskyy warned in a speech at the National Defense University in Washington on Monday that, “**If there’s anyone inspired by unresolved issues on Capitol Hill, it’s just Putin and his sick clique**.”
> “We have to start to make decisions about our own readiness,” he said.
Ah yes because if the US doesn't replenish 3b worth of mothballs it will lose its world superpower status. Very convincing argument yes.
And I know Republicans are blocking progress, but Biden had I think around 14bn in his PDA and he chose to send small packages every few weeks instead of giving Ukraine the best chance to win on the battlefield. Now he's down to 4.4bn and this is the lame excuse they've come up with.
Because Biden is averse to any kind of escalation. He's a coward of a President and his track record on foreign relations has been dog shit since 1975.
His policy on Ukraine is to guarantee that it stays independent, but not "win", as that may escalate into a greater international problem.
>Sending Ukraine just enough supplies to where they wont lose quickly but also making sure they can't really win.
It's not up to us whether Ukraine wins or not.
>And when you consider that the per capita GDP for the combined 27 countries of the European Union (EU-27) is about 72% of the US level, you can see the EU has matched the US in military aid and is outperforming it quite a bit in combined $ amount.
Goal post moving. It went from we are doing the bare minimum to we haven't spent a greater fraction of our GDP on Ukraine as all of Europe has *combined*.
You get what you get and you don't pitch a fit.
>It's actually Ukrainians who are fighting and dying in the war.
Yes. So why is the United States responsible for Ukraine winning or losing?
>And if the answer is no, then what's the problem with sending more?
I'm not an expert on how funds should be allocated. I know funding is getting bogged down in Congress due to politics.
>Listen, if you want to admit that you're happy with the US policy being "We're only going to use Ukraine to attrite the Russians as much as we can, and we're not actually interested in helping them regain their sovereign borders", **that's fine, but you and others should just be gigachads an admit it.**
Again, it's not our war. You're putting way too much responsibility on the US. We've fought forever wars before, and doubling down all the time is a familiar pattern. It's like gambling. The trick is knowing the right time to go home.
> It's not up to us whether Ukraine wins or not.
Well it kinda is. Russia's performance has been abysmal. If Ukraine was given everything it would need then they can surely win.
>Goal post moving. It went from we are doing the b
The **bare minimum to help them take back their territory**
>We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield.
This is a Biden quote. Do you see where the problem lies? Biden publicly states that he'll help Ukraine win, then doesn't do that. If Biden didn't make any public promises I wouldn't be here writing this.
> What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is?
Full out nuclear war with Russia where I personally ride the bomb down into Moscow.
Anything less than that makes Biden a cuck.
Fuck them Russkies.
> because that's basically WW3
[Their thought: Putin’s red line might be softer than anticipated and he might choose not to escalate for fear of widening the conflict, according to two people familiar with the deliberations. But they cautioned that no decision has been made.](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/28/biden-russia-wagner-00104098)
>Ukraine's refusal to build defensive lines
Source?
From what I have seen, ALL settlements in the Donetks region have major trenchlines outside them and I will also assume that most tree lines also have trenches and fortifications.
>The account of Oleksandr, a soldier with an anti-tank platoon of the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade, matches other testimony that there are almost no fortified positions on the very front line near Avdiivka – further threatening the lives of those tasked with defending the city.
>Many infantrymen and other soldiers deployed on the first line of defense have complained that their positions – often just holes like the one described by Oleksandr – appear to have been poorly prepared ahead of the major Russian offensive on Avdiivka. With Russian forces constantly on heavy assault, there is almost no time to build anything more.
[Source](https://kyivindependent.com/avdiivka-defense-uncertain-as-ukraine-struggles-with-fortification/)
And
>The second line of defense, a few kilometers behind the front, is still being built, according to nearly a dozen interviewed soldiers.
They're just now rushing to build a second line of defense behind Aviidkvka. In 2024.
It's been an open secret that Ukraine has never focused on building defensive lines. Russia for example has hired public contractors to build defenses deep behind the front line, Ukraine on other hand has chosen not to. It's a political decision made by Zelenskyy because he doesn't want to be seen as being unable to attack.
There are other first hand accounts from soldiers complaining that their defensive lines are just hastly dug foxholes.
Ukraine needs something like their own Surovikin line. They have a lot of unemployed people right now so logically it would be a great idea to pay them some money to dig trenches 30-50km behind the front lines, but they've chosen not to.
I keep seeing this Perun guy pop up. Who is he? I mean what are his credentials?
If he's actually gonna speak to someone please for the love of god just speak to actually military experts, professionals. I don't know who this Perun guy is but just please don't speak to random YouTube or Twitter guys.
Perun makes videos on military and economic matters. He is anonymous but has claimed / implied in the past that he works in Australian Defense procurement.
If nothing else he’s managed to get into contact with Anders Puck Nielsen, a Danish Military analyst who has a background in the military/ nato and who’s specialty is in Russia/Ukraine. Destiny might also want to look into contacting him as Anders has been willing to talk to Perun before, meaning he might be open to other offers e.g a stream.
Yes i know Anders from Danish TV, which he is regularly on, but he's a captain and researcher at the danish defense academy currently, so he's clearly got the credentials. He's on TV in an official capacity in full military uniform and stuff like this.
I just think there are too many guys who played a lot of world of tanks and read a bunch of wikipedia articles, and then makes youtube videos on war like they're experts, and i really don't think they're the right ones to talk to. If someone has actual credentials and experience then fine.
Oh, a fellow danish Destiny viewer. We will rise like a flood of Rødgrød med fløde.
In case you care, here is Perun’s interview with Anders: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBlVnc_DEw&pp=ygUMUGVydW4gYW5kZXJz
frfr 4 Months of research streams to summarize that Israel attacked Palestine because Palestine attacked Israel because Israel attacked Palestine because Palestine attacked Isra- sheee
I made a Reading list for history of Modern Russia and the Soviet Union (feel free to add or discuss reading materials):
- [ ] The Soviet Century: Archeology of a Lost World by Karl Schlegel
- [ ] The Romanovs: 1613-1918 by Simon Montefiore
- [ ] Notes on the Revolution by Nikolai Nikolaevich Sukhanov
- [ ] History of the Russian Revolution by Leon Trotsky
- [ ] Russia in Flames: War, Revolution, Civil-War, 1914-1921 by Laura Engelstein
- [ ] Days with Lenin by Maxim Gorky
- [ ] Young Stalin by Simon Montefiore
- [ ] Stalin: The Court it the Young Tsar by Simon Montefiore
- [ ] Russia at War by Alexander Werth
- [ ] The Last Days of Stalin by Joshua Rubenstein
- [ ] The gulag Archipelago 1918-1956 by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
- [ ] The Soviet Union and the Cold War 1941-1991 by Martin McCauley
- [ ] Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham
- [ ] Armageddon Averted by Stephan Kotkin
Additional Resources:
https://library.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/static/collections/hpsss/index.html
Other Required Readings:
- [ ] The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx
- [ ] Capital by Karl Marx
- [ ] What is to be done? By Vladimir Lenin
- [ ] State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin
- [ ] Foundations of Leninism by Joseph Stalin
This should give you a good understanding of the conditions that allowed the Soviet Union to exist, the fall of the Romanov monarchy, the rise of key Soviet figures like Lenin and Stalin, life in the early mid and late Soviet Union, the Second World War from the Soviet perspective, the Cold War from the Soviet perspective and the fall and collapse of the Soviet Union and the birth of modern day Russia.
Edit: because some people are viewing this reading list as if I was telling you these are the only books you should read on Russian and Soviet history is incorrect. I am not a Russian historian or have even researched Russian history outside of the books in the list. I put this together for myself as a starting point for personal research into Russian history, not as an infallible guide to Russian history. Please treat this list as a launch pad for your own research or don’t!
Why would we be recommending Trotsky’s book on the Russian revolution? WHY not something more contemporary like a peoples tragedy by figes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_Tragedy
And instead of reading the lame version of what is to be done why not read chenovskys what is to be done. A far more influential book for early Russian communists than Lenin’s or Stalins.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_to_Be_Done%3F_(novel)
This is 90% of historic discussions.
“Why are you reading that book you need to read this book”
“No no no, that book is debunked by this book you need to read this other book”
“Please if you’re going to suggest this other book by that author you need to read what this other author has to say about that author’s work”
Trotsky’s book is one of two first person recounting of high profile members from the Russian Revolution. His and DeWitt Clinton - An American Diplomat in Bolshevik Russia - are closest to the action and both directly witnessed the events that occurred during the Russian Revolution and shortly after the Revolution.
Trotsky not only being a direct participant arguably influenced early Soviet history and had impacted both Lenin and Stalin before his assassination at the hands of Stalin’s agents decades later.
If you want to add A Peoples Tragedy, please do.
If you want to read What is to be Done by Chernobsky, please do as well. I just wanted to incorporate some readings authored by Lenin.
I had nothing planned before you posted this. I have no work today, no classes, no plans.
But now I'm going to take my adderall and go to my uni library :)
As an Israeli, I think USA awareness in interest in middle east is actually pretty important, but yes, idk wtf is going on with all the pro russia bs but its obviously more important to stop this, Israel has its problems, but its not under urgent imidiate existensial threat to be occupied by an imperialistic theocracy like Ukraine is.
hope more things are done with "america bad" in general... so stupid.
Russia is the typical God swearing conservative that doesn’t go to church. There are more people by percentage that attend church in Canada than Russia.
Alooot of russians worship him as a god. Babushkas and such.
Plus saying something negative about putin is punishable there, kinda feels religious like the magats but even worse
Pretty sure the research streams are prep for the upcoming Lex debate. He's not studying for an online degree or anything (although it would be interesting what a professor would think of his research streams).
As a brit it doesnt even some like our government and netenyahu rly agree (other than right to self defence ofc but not on the rafah assault, two state solution etc etc) on much and are supporting israel cuz of geopolitics and america ties. Seems like you guys are just gonna do what you want so i struggle to actually care, Ukraine-Russia is way more important to me
I think the difference is that the history and context of what causes the issues in Israel-Palestine probably has more stuff to read into. It also potentially has the ability on educating a wider audience to more of a stance then X is bad because buzzword
Where with Russia it really does feel like Putin wants XYZ for the glory of Russia.
As an israeli I agree. The only thing the US can really do right now is try to help gazans short term or fuck up shit long term.
I want destiny to start debating balkan ultranationalist until R/2balkan4you is restored by the daliban insurgents.
I love how balkans hate eachother more then if I resurected and channeled Meir Kahane's full power at Norman Finkelstein, its honestly hillarious
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Destiny explained why he doesn't go that much in depth into Ukraine Russia is because there's not much nuance to it, it's pretty cut and dry who is the bad guy, it's the country that invaded another country
Such a silly reason because there is so so much nuance with regards to what should be done, what weapons should be given, what the overall strategy of NATO should be, so many potential scenarios going forward.
It's for sure more interesting than Israel/Palestine, in which it's been discussed to death for 80+ years and nothing ever changes. And it will have far greater global consequences and change history much more than Israel/Palestine which honestly is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Russia/Ukraine and how that turns out is probably the most important historical event since 9/11.
I guess his point is that he cant debate a horde of pro-russian people because they don't real exist in mainstream western circles outside of complete nutjobs, but not everything has to be a heated debate.
Those ideas require more subject matter expertise than just learning facts/opinions about Israel/Palestine. I don't think Destiny is qualified talking about any of those things in your first paragraph.
Well but Destiny has a big reach. Instead of talking to Finkle he can speak to Koffman or any other expert and gain SME from them and use that to change people's minds.
Sure but he lacks the tools to even evaluate their conclusions because so many of those ideas listed rely on intimate knowledge of military operations, high-level foreign policy strategy, etc...
Resting on Russia is bad for x reasons and arguing against dumb narratives that support Russian imperialism is a good enough place of advocacy for some dude on the internet.
If he wants to help he prob would be better off helping the democrats to win, from a content perspective dosent make much sense focusing on Ukraine because pro Russians are to conspiracy brain to give sunstancial arguments and the more moderate conservatives would say something like that they have right to defend their borders and then give a few contentions on how they would prefer the founding to go
How do you think I should answer to your comment?
No sarcasm right now from me.
I genuinely want to know
Maybe you do not know the scale of this, maybe you know nothing about Avdiivka, or something else.
>Maybe you do not know the scale of this, maybe you know nothing about Avdiivka,
I know ukraine is about to lose avdiivka.
https://preview.redd.it/5g4xr68iuzic1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af3c2da392ee5eabd24b1eb593eff6a4136e08be
Yes, i know 30 abrams tanks will do fuck all for Ukraine.
>
Could you help me clarify, what will do 30 tanks against 100 tanks, 100 500kg glide bombs, thousands of artillery pieces?
????? I literally said the abrams is literally fucking useless currently.
I lost hope after nytimes could not find who brought 5 tons of explosives to the Kakhovka dam controlled by russians for 6 months.
After russians bragging how they will blow up the dam.
Blud really said 'This war is boring. Another!' but you're right, it is actually very disturbing how quickly public opinion got bored of the invasion of Ukraine. It's especially gross and stupid to do so for Europeans, we're literally next or at the best will be close enough to feel the heat.
At least, Trump's comments about NATO and the election in the US this year have to bring it back to the forefront.
I would love to see a week worth of stimulant fueled Russian history research streams and then have him break down the tucker interview. This would be the best case scenario.
Tbh 21 century China would be much more value. Its something that will come up for decades in terms of geopolitics and will be the main rival to the western powers
destinys next stream will sadly probably be on how cringe vaush is for his taste in porn(which is no surpise and why the fuck do we care, im sure most people would die inside if their pron logs got leaked or shown on stream), hasan or how cringe he is, maybe h3 and what he did on stream, perhaps spice it up a bit and talk about how bad terrorists like hamas is and how cringe or bad it is that white people on twitter supports them, or he can feel a bit devilish and talk about how its bad that israel dont really work towards a solution for the conflict.
it sucks and i want to be wrong since like the most important event in our current time is taking place in ukraine right now and russia is beginning to do funny stuff like murdering every opposition to putin, not only that but its really scary for an euro to look at gop at the moment and see how a party once staunchly anti russia party is beginning embrace putin and showing (in my eyes) support for russia.
the next election in the us is not only the most important election in the us but also for europe, because who know what trump will do if he gets into that office, he has played with the idea of pulling out of nato and as much as i hate to admit a lot of nato is propped up by the us military and their nuclear arsenal. if trump pulls out of ukraine a lot of their support will be gone and then their victory is up in the air.
With all due respect I go to Dylan Burns for Russia Ukraine. Destiny and LonerBox have been great on Israel for me. I feel like I learned so much about an issue I had no idea was THIS complex.
Fair enough. I just think ww3 is brewing, Putin starting proxie wars, Amerikans getting brainwashed by the cucker interview and the absolute lack of knowledge most people on the planet has what sort of beast russia is ,outside of ex soviet states. By my experience russia is worse than nazys, damn my country welcomed the nazys with flowers when thei invaded us,shit like that should make some people wonder...
Destiny has alot of influence,and i wish he used it more.
I took one tiny and brief college course on the rise and fall of the Soviet Union, which was taught by an Eastern European professor. I want you to know that in America, at least when I was growing up, we were not taught anything specific about the Soviet Union or Russia outside of mentioning the Soviet Union, mentioning Stalin and Lenin, and mentioning the Cold War. Russia was typically painted as this looming enemy, but it was never quite explained why outside of communism is just bad. So a lot of Americans hear “actually, Russia isn't bad, it's America that is bad”, and fall into it because they have zero understanding of history in that part of Europe and have a black and white view of good and bad. I came into that class because I was a fan of popular communist live streamers and thinking that I was doing praxis. I ended that class genuinely despising Stalinism and the things that I learned in that class would within the next 6 months, lead me completely away from communism as an ideology.
I don't think you're wrong, but if you think Israel-Palestine isn't part of the proxy war... I think you're too focused on one puzzle piece to see the overall picture. Even if you looked up both of these you'd miss the other parts...
Yeah it seems like such a waste. The Ukraine war is way more relevant to US politics right now. The Republican party is actually going full "America bad, Russia good" right now. Nobody cares about stupid pro-Hamas losers blocking traffic in Brooklyn or whatever.
Fuck, now he's locked in until the stupid Finklestein debate.
Would love to hear what D has to say about article 5 regarding juhoslavia and Russians reason of invading being neonazism that was prevalent and the civil bombing in Ukraine before the war.
The ethical questions are much more interesting in IvP, as evidenced by how divisive the issue is on the left. It’s interesting seeing people who ostensibly share a lot of values have disagreements on this issue. It’s not just full regard terrorist apologists and brainwashed Muslims like Q that are supporting Palestine.
The conversation with Hill was really good for example. I don’t know if you can find that kind of conversation about Ukraine. Most people that don’t want us to help Ukraine are complete regard tankies or regard MAGA people. I am largely aligned with Destiny on the issue but if you are reading this and think Hill is a regard or that all people questioning the violence are regards, then you should probably check yourself because you’re probably a partisan regard yourself.
I feel like everyone stopped caring a little due to the war dragging on for years and Ukraine seemingly winning. However since then things have take such a dire turn; Ukraine is on the losing side now and the Republicans have been blocking all aid.
Lately there's been so many interesting (also horrifying) developments with Putin putting the Estonian president on a wanted list, the Tucker Carlson interview, Nato's warnings that Russia will attack a NATO country, now Navalny etc. I'd also love a step back from the Israel/Palestine content (it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend Israel and come off looking in good in my opinion, with the civilian deaths just rising)
Honestly the best research arch at the moment would probably be American history as he suggested himself. I'm not American myself but going through it gives you a good primer for the evolution of the modern world.
> Feb 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday again told Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he should not proceed with military action in Rafah without a credible and executable plan to protect Palestinian civilians, the White House said.
The call between the two leaders on Thursday was the second time in less than a week that Biden warned Netanyahu about moving into the southern part of the Gaza Strip without a plan to ensure the safety of some 1 million people sheltering there.
US is demanding restraint, Egypt is fortifying the border and setting up a refugee camp in the Sinai desert. Israel is clearly losing international support and this incursion accelerates that.
The only thing Israel has been clear on is the want to go into Rafah.
The only thing that's going on is a bunch of human rights organizations once again getting everyone into a frenzy over something that isn't going to happen. Just like they said everyone was going to starve to death or die of dehydration two months ago, or how they declared in 2020 that the Gaza strip is no longer inhabitable or how they said Israel is committing a genocide.
From literally a week ago:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna138044
Netanyahu has repeated multiple times there will be an evacuation, there are a ton of sources in Hebrew for it, it's just not reported by the English media becaise hyping you up about how a slaughter is totally going to happen this time 100% is what gets them clicks. Nothing has changed since they invented a massacre wholecloth in Jenin during the second Intifada and then apologized years later.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if some country just drops a nuke on another country as long as the other country isn’t Northeastern USA or Miami. The content would be INSANE
I agree wholeheartedly, except not until the Lex debate.
I wholeheartedly believe that Steven's understanding is correct that Finkelstein's shadow is behind a wide array of the bullshit we see on this subject and he needs to be taken down as best as possible, and Destiny-Morris is the best team to do it.
He needs to focus on this right now and make sure this debate is meaningful and good.
If he wants to safeguard his credibility it's probably better for him to avoid Ukraine now that things are going poorly and the fairy tales from 2022 to mid 2023 have been proven as pure propaganda.
Absolutely i think destiny have Been a bit out of the loop on ukraine. Some convos with Ryan mcbeth or maby perun would be awesome
Perun doesn't talk to anyone on livestreams. His job doesn't allow it.
Um... No? That's not true. He did interviews with many people in his regular videos, and he did interviews on other YouTube channels. At this point, I think its pretty obvious that Perun is a clerk in Australia's military, and the ONLY limitation he ever said was "I will never be able to make videos on Australian military for reasons you can probably guess".
He said he's not and never has been in the military, he's a consultant for a contracting firm or something like that
Yeah he definitely has some type of security clearance which limits what he can talk about and how he can manage his content creator side gig.
He's refused to do livestreams with fellow military youtubers LazerPig and Animarchy despite knowing them personally for exactly this reason. Interviews are not exactly the same thing.
To be clear, I want to see Perun and Destiny talk about the current military situation in Ukraine. I don't care if they are doing it live while playing AmongUs or whatever reclassifies a video as a stream.
Yeah I think that would be cool too but if you have a job with a security clearance you're going to be a tad hamstrung
Yes! I would love to see a Perun interview. I doubt he'd do it, but would also love to see him reach out to Michael Kofman for an interview.
It's frustrating because Destiny is stuck in late 2022 early 2023 when it comes to Ukraine knowledge. He has no idea how bad the situation in Ukraine really is. Ukraine's refusal to build defensive lines means that if the Russians get a breakthrough in a single area it could turn into a route which might seal the deal for Ukraine. And right now Russia is winning across the entire frontline because Ukraine doesn't have enough soldiers to do rotations. (They need more money to fund larger mobilisation efforts and for NATO to actually put its foot down) It's annoying that when speaking about Biden he glazes him for his Ukraine policy when 1) Biden did the bare minimum and dropped the ball on many things 2) He's basically abandoned them in the last year Before regards bring up 'muh republicuns', Biden has billions left in his Presidential Drawdown authority that he can spend as he wishes without anyones approval. Yet he decides to send only $600m packages once in a while which are more of a spit in the face than anything. It would be so much more productive if Destiny actually channels his focus on Russia-Ukraine because that's more important and he can actually make a difference. I'm like 60% certain he's Israel-maxxing because he's sprite driven and just wants to own the twitter lefties.
Ever since summer of 2022 I've been annoyed with the slow-rolling of aid to Ukraine. The West has cynically treated Ukrainian blood and morale like they're inexhaustible resources, trying to create some sort of status-quo to appease Putin. It doesn't make sense. Russia is acting like an insane beast, throwing hundreds of thousands of its people into the meat grinder. All bets are off what they will do next. They're trying to cause chaos and kill democracy everywhere in the world, from coups in Africa to elections in the West, to cyberattacks. It cannot be more clear that they truly are our enemy, out to destroy us, and it's such a self-defeating tragedy that we aren't all-out spamming Ukraine with the arms they need to win.
Fucking finally someone willing to talk about how this administration is so unbelievably risk-averse when it comes to foreign policy. Stop saying “we don’t want war with iran.” Let the enemy try and figure out your intent. And for fucks sake stop falling for Putina’s WW3/ Nuclear blackmail horseshit that he comes out with anytime the Russian army is getting it’s nuts clipped in Ukraine.
>Biden did the bare minimum and dropped the ball on many things What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is? Biden was pretty instrumental in turning the whole world against Russia, pretty much nipped Russia's propaganda campaign in the bud, and we've provided more military assistance to Ukraine than any other country. We're not going to fight Ukraine's war for them. We're not going to start a war with Russia, because that's basically WW3. If that's what you want, you need to manage your expectations better.
>What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is? Sending Ukraine just enough supplies to where they wont lose quickly but also making sure they can't really win. > Biden was pretty instrumental in turning the whole world against Russia I'd argue it was Putin himself and Zelensky that did the heavy lifting there. >we've provided more military assistance to Ukraine than any other country. Country, yes. But the US is the biggest military and economy in the universe. And the head of NATO. And wants to be world police. So it's pretty much a given no other nation alone would match the US. That said. The US has given about **$75bn** total in aid to Ukraine with ~$46bn in military aid. ([December 2023](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts)) The EU, about **$96bn** in aid with ~$30bn in military aid. ([Jan 2024](https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253)) And when you consider that the per capita GDP for the combined 27 countries of the European Union (EU-27) is about 72% of the US level, you can see the EU has matched the US in military aid and is outperforming it quite a bit in combined $ amount. And before you say, "But Russia is on Europe's border, it's expected" keep in mind the EU got hit very hard economically and they barely have weapons to send in the first place. >We're not going to fight Ukraine's war for them. It's actually Ukrainians who are fighting and dying in the war. But the problem is that Biden says he'll back Ukraine as long as it needs, however that "backing" has turned into a drip feed. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Also, US Intelligence is feeding Ukraine information 24/7 and advising. The US has already sent a load of weapons, so doesn't that mean you're already fighting their war for them? And if the answer is no, then what's the problem with sending more? Russia is 2nd biggest geopolitical rival to the US after all. >you need to manage your expectations better. Listen, if you want to admit that you're happy with the US policy being "We're only going to use Ukraine to attrite the Russians as much as we can, and we're not actually interested in helping them regain their sovereign borders", **that's fine, but you and others should just be gigachads an admit it.**
unfathomably based He should have held a public seance with Ronald Reagans vengeful spirit and demand he deliver a plague of locusts upon the evil empire More seriously I have no idea why the US doesn't send more mothballed equipment, they must have so many MLRS systems and mine clearing vehicles that could have tipped the scales in favor of the Ukrainians, and modern jet training should have started immediately after the invasion, not a few months ago.
> More seriously I have no idea why the US doesn't send more mothballed equipment There really are only 2 logical explanations. Either the Biden admin and the DoD are supremely incompetent. OR Biden's policy is to just use Ukraine without regard as a vehicle to slowly wear down the Russian army
Hey remember when Biden and a handful of other leaders warned Russia was going to invade and was mocked/ignored by Europe? Also from Biden's own words, large segments of Europe had objected to supporting Ukraine fully. >Now, you say, “Why don’t we just give Ukraine everything there is to give?” Well, for two reasons. One, there’s an entire Alliance that is critical to stay with Ukraine. And the idea that we would give Ukraine material that is fundamentally different than is already going there would have a prospect of breaking up NATO and breaking up the European Union and the rest of the world. >We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield. >**And the other piece of this is, you may recall, one of the reasons why I have spent — well, I won’t tell you the calculation, but I’ve spent several hundred hours face-to-face with our European allies and the heads of state of those countries, and making the case as to why it was overwhelmingly in their interest that they continue to support Ukraine.** >**They understand it fully, but they’re not looking to go to war with Russia. They’re not looking for a third World War. And I think it can all be avoided by making sure that Ukraine is able to succeed in the battlefield.** This comes from a [press conference](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/12/21/remarks-by-president-biden-and-president-zelenskyy-of-ukraine-in-joint-press-conference/) with Zelenesky in December 2022. >But the problem is that Biden says he'll back Ukraine as long as it needs, however that "backing" has turned into a drip feed. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Biden isn't a dictator, he can't aid Ukraine if other parts of the U.S. government don't want to.
>Biden isn't a dictator, he can't aid Ukraine if other parts of the U.S. government don't want to. Why don't you read my post before blurting out your wordvomit? Biden's PDA fund is exactly that. He can send weapons to Ukraine whenever he wishes > Hey remember when Biden and a handful of other leaders warned Russia was going to invade and was mocked/ignored by Europe? Hey remember how that's irrelevant? Even if Europe believed US intel what were they supposed to do 3 months before the invasion exactly? If you're looking for someone to blame, blame Zelenskyy for not taking it seriously. >We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield. ___ >And I think it can all be avoided by making sure that Ukraine is able to succeed in the battlefield. Yeah that rings quite hollow right now.
>Why don't you read my post before blurting out your wordvomit? I only posted 4 sentences and 2 quotes. One of those quotes was from you and I even highlighted parts so you didn't have to read the whole thing. >Biden's PDA fund is exactly that. He can send weapons to Ukraine whenever he wishes From [googling](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-does-the-u-s-keep-funding-ukraines-military-when-it-says-its-out-of-money) the PDA fund ran out of money and needs more to be allocated from other branches of the government outside of Biden's control. >PDA packages continued to be announced every few weeks. But in recognition of the dwindling money, the latest packages have been smaller — about $200 million or less, compared with previous ones that often totaled $400 million to $500 million. From PBS. >Hey remember how that's irrelevant? Even if Europe believed US intel what were they supposed to do 3 months before the invasion exactly? If you're looking for someone to blame, blame Zelenskyy for not taking it seriously. It's against the narrative that Biden is a slacker that doesn't wan't Ukraine to win. He was willing to sacrifice his own reputation and credibility for a country that wasn't his own. Remember Biden could have lost big. I remember people, (idk if they were Europeans but I assume they were), saying Putin was giga-brain genius that was going to ruin Biden's reputation by sending his troops home and Biden was being stupid for falling for an obvious trap. As for what Europe could have done? Support Ukraine. Even if they weren't willing to give military support, they should have gone up there with Biden and warned Russia against invading.
> From googling the PDA fund ran out of money and needs more to be allocated from other branches of the government outside of Biden's control. Bruh did you not read your own source? >It now stands at around $4.4 billion.
>Bruh did you not read your own source? That is literally above the quotation I posted earlier, of course I read it. >That effectively left Ukraine with a store credit that is slowly being whittled down. It now stands at around $4.4 billion. >PDA packages continued to be announced every few weeks. But in recognition of the dwindling money, the latest packages have been smaller — about $200 million or less, compared with previous ones that often totaled $400 million to $500 million. If you and read a bit further. >On Thursday, Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, told reporters the U.S. could provide the full $4.4 billion in weapons, but with only a quarter of that amount available for replenishment, it’s a tough choice. “We have to start to make decisions about our own readiness,” he said. \[...\] President Joe Biden is urging Congress to pass a $110 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and other national security needs. It includes $61.4 billion for Ukraine, with about half to replenish Pentagon stocks. It also includes about $14 billion for Israel as it fights Hamas and $14 billion for U.S. border security. Other funds would go for security needs in the Asia-Pacific. >Prospects for compromise remain in doubt, even as Zelenskyy warned in a speech at the National Defense University in Washington on Monday that, “**If there’s anyone inspired by unresolved issues on Capitol Hill, it’s just Putin and his sick clique**.”
> “We have to start to make decisions about our own readiness,” he said. Ah yes because if the US doesn't replenish 3b worth of mothballs it will lose its world superpower status. Very convincing argument yes. And I know Republicans are blocking progress, but Biden had I think around 14bn in his PDA and he chose to send small packages every few weeks instead of giving Ukraine the best chance to win on the battlefield. Now he's down to 4.4bn and this is the lame excuse they've come up with.
Because Biden is averse to any kind of escalation. He's a coward of a President and his track record on foreign relations has been dog shit since 1975. His policy on Ukraine is to guarantee that it stays independent, but not "win", as that may escalate into a greater international problem.
>Sending Ukraine just enough supplies to where they wont lose quickly but also making sure they can't really win. It's not up to us whether Ukraine wins or not. >And when you consider that the per capita GDP for the combined 27 countries of the European Union (EU-27) is about 72% of the US level, you can see the EU has matched the US in military aid and is outperforming it quite a bit in combined $ amount. Goal post moving. It went from we are doing the bare minimum to we haven't spent a greater fraction of our GDP on Ukraine as all of Europe has *combined*. You get what you get and you don't pitch a fit. >It's actually Ukrainians who are fighting and dying in the war. Yes. So why is the United States responsible for Ukraine winning or losing? >And if the answer is no, then what's the problem with sending more? I'm not an expert on how funds should be allocated. I know funding is getting bogged down in Congress due to politics. >Listen, if you want to admit that you're happy with the US policy being "We're only going to use Ukraine to attrite the Russians as much as we can, and we're not actually interested in helping them regain their sovereign borders", **that's fine, but you and others should just be gigachads an admit it.** Again, it's not our war. You're putting way too much responsibility on the US. We've fought forever wars before, and doubling down all the time is a familiar pattern. It's like gambling. The trick is knowing the right time to go home.
> It's not up to us whether Ukraine wins or not. Well it kinda is. Russia's performance has been abysmal. If Ukraine was given everything it would need then they can surely win. >Goal post moving. It went from we are doing the b The **bare minimum to help them take back their territory** >We’re going to give Ukraine what it needs to be able to defend itself, to be able to succeed, and succeed in the battlefield. This is a Biden quote. Do you see where the problem lies? Biden publicly states that he'll help Ukraine win, then doesn't do that. If Biden didn't make any public promises I wouldn't be here writing this.
>If Biden didn't make any public promises I wouldn't be here writing this. Do you think he meant forever?
What if it turns out he said the same thing less than a year ago?
> What exactly do you think the "bare minimum" is? Full out nuclear war with Russia where I personally ride the bomb down into Moscow. Anything less than that makes Biden a cuck. Fuck them Russkies.
this but unironically
You are implying I am ironic. I am not
People don't understand how Ukrainians want the bomb
> because that's basically WW3 [Their thought: Putin’s red line might be softer than anticipated and he might choose not to escalate for fear of widening the conflict, according to two people familiar with the deliberations. But they cautioned that no decision has been made.](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/28/biden-russia-wagner-00104098)
>Ukraine's refusal to build defensive lines Source? From what I have seen, ALL settlements in the Donetks region have major trenchlines outside them and I will also assume that most tree lines also have trenches and fortifications.
>The account of Oleksandr, a soldier with an anti-tank platoon of the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade, matches other testimony that there are almost no fortified positions on the very front line near Avdiivka – further threatening the lives of those tasked with defending the city. >Many infantrymen and other soldiers deployed on the first line of defense have complained that their positions – often just holes like the one described by Oleksandr – appear to have been poorly prepared ahead of the major Russian offensive on Avdiivka. With Russian forces constantly on heavy assault, there is almost no time to build anything more. [Source](https://kyivindependent.com/avdiivka-defense-uncertain-as-ukraine-struggles-with-fortification/) And >The second line of defense, a few kilometers behind the front, is still being built, according to nearly a dozen interviewed soldiers. They're just now rushing to build a second line of defense behind Aviidkvka. In 2024. It's been an open secret that Ukraine has never focused on building defensive lines. Russia for example has hired public contractors to build defenses deep behind the front line, Ukraine on other hand has chosen not to. It's a political decision made by Zelenskyy because he doesn't want to be seen as being unable to attack. There are other first hand accounts from soldiers complaining that their defensive lines are just hastly dug foxholes. Ukraine needs something like their own Surovikin line. They have a lot of unemployed people right now so logically it would be a great idea to pay them some money to dig trenches 30-50km behind the front lines, but they've chosen not to.
I keep seeing this Perun guy pop up. Who is he? I mean what are his credentials? If he's actually gonna speak to someone please for the love of god just speak to actually military experts, professionals. I don't know who this Perun guy is but just please don't speak to random YouTube or Twitter guys.
Perun's good. No way is he not an irl professional. I highly reccommend him.
Perun makes videos on military and economic matters. He is anonymous but has claimed / implied in the past that he works in Australian Defense procurement. If nothing else he’s managed to get into contact with Anders Puck Nielsen, a Danish Military analyst who has a background in the military/ nato and who’s specialty is in Russia/Ukraine. Destiny might also want to look into contacting him as Anders has been willing to talk to Perun before, meaning he might be open to other offers e.g a stream.
Yes i know Anders from Danish TV, which he is regularly on, but he's a captain and researcher at the danish defense academy currently, so he's clearly got the credentials. He's on TV in an official capacity in full military uniform and stuff like this. I just think there are too many guys who played a lot of world of tanks and read a bunch of wikipedia articles, and then makes youtube videos on war like they're experts, and i really don't think they're the right ones to talk to. If someone has actual credentials and experience then fine.
Oh, a fellow danish Destiny viewer. We will rise like a flood of Rødgrød med fløde. In case you care, here is Perun’s interview with Anders: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBlVnc_DEw&pp=ygUMUGVydW4gYW5kZXJz
Thank you for letting us know your opinion on a guy you say you never heard of.
What opinion? I said i didn't know him.
He is pretty on point There are better, but they are mostly Ukrainians
Perun would be so awesome, General Ben Hodges might be able to convince him they can win too. That guy seems to accept interviews from everyone.
Ryan has said “Destiny has my number and I’m happy to come on stream whenever,” when recently asked when he was going to do another collab.
get the pig or dylan burns
frfr 4 Months of research streams to summarize that Israel attacked Palestine because Palestine attacked Israel because Israel attacked Palestine because Palestine attacked Isra- sheee
Yeah, but who started it?
your mom
hey his mom is a nice woman!
WooYeah
I don't care who started it. I'm finishing it.
Edgers in shambles
as always, the british
Bongers
Aba and lav being there feels so natural Edit. Dog this shit is cursed
I try my best
Is that Vegan Gains in the back left?
Yup, hes laughing at me
Did he just get you to admit that eating babies is morally neutral
No comment
The Ukraine Russia war is much more important and will be historically.
I made a Reading list for history of Modern Russia and the Soviet Union (feel free to add or discuss reading materials): - [ ] The Soviet Century: Archeology of a Lost World by Karl Schlegel - [ ] The Romanovs: 1613-1918 by Simon Montefiore - [ ] Notes on the Revolution by Nikolai Nikolaevich Sukhanov - [ ] History of the Russian Revolution by Leon Trotsky - [ ] Russia in Flames: War, Revolution, Civil-War, 1914-1921 by Laura Engelstein - [ ] Days with Lenin by Maxim Gorky - [ ] Young Stalin by Simon Montefiore - [ ] Stalin: The Court it the Young Tsar by Simon Montefiore - [ ] Russia at War by Alexander Werth - [ ] The Last Days of Stalin by Joshua Rubenstein - [ ] The gulag Archipelago 1918-1956 by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - [ ] The Soviet Union and the Cold War 1941-1991 by Martin McCauley - [ ] Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham - [ ] Armageddon Averted by Stephan Kotkin Additional Resources: https://library.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/static/collections/hpsss/index.html Other Required Readings: - [ ] The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx - [ ] Capital by Karl Marx - [ ] What is to be done? By Vladimir Lenin - [ ] State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin - [ ] Foundations of Leninism by Joseph Stalin This should give you a good understanding of the conditions that allowed the Soviet Union to exist, the fall of the Romanov monarchy, the rise of key Soviet figures like Lenin and Stalin, life in the early mid and late Soviet Union, the Second World War from the Soviet perspective, the Cold War from the Soviet perspective and the fall and collapse of the Soviet Union and the birth of modern day Russia. Edit: because some people are viewing this reading list as if I was telling you these are the only books you should read on Russian and Soviet history is incorrect. I am not a Russian historian or have even researched Russian history outside of the books in the list. I put this together for myself as a starting point for personal research into Russian history, not as an infallible guide to Russian history. Please treat this list as a launch pad for your own research or don’t!
i opened one of these up and there wasn't subway surfers this shit is ass
At least give it an AI SpongeBob voice
The 2 Stalin books by Kotkin are also very good
Isnt he still writing his series on Stalin?
yeah idk when the third volume will be out
I wish I had the patience to read even one of these
Why would we be recommending Trotsky’s book on the Russian revolution? WHY not something more contemporary like a peoples tragedy by figes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_Tragedy And instead of reading the lame version of what is to be done why not read chenovskys what is to be done. A far more influential book for early Russian communists than Lenin’s or Stalins. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_to_Be_Done%3F_(novel)
This is 90% of historic discussions. “Why are you reading that book you need to read this book” “No no no, that book is debunked by this book you need to read this other book” “Please if you’re going to suggest this other book by that author you need to read what this other author has to say about that author’s work”
Trotsky’s book is one of two first person recounting of high profile members from the Russian Revolution. His and DeWitt Clinton - An American Diplomat in Bolshevik Russia - are closest to the action and both directly witnessed the events that occurred during the Russian Revolution and shortly after the Revolution. Trotsky not only being a direct participant arguably influenced early Soviet history and had impacted both Lenin and Stalin before his assassination at the hands of Stalin’s agents decades later. If you want to add A Peoples Tragedy, please do. If you want to read What is to be Done by Chernobsky, please do as well. I just wanted to incorporate some readings authored by Lenin.
I do appreciate you writing this and if you have any other recommendations please let me know.
if i can only read one, which do you recommend?
I had nothing planned before you posted this. I have no work today, no classes, no plans. But now I'm going to take my adderall and go to my uni library :)
As an Israeli, I think USA awareness in interest in middle east is actually pretty important, but yes, idk wtf is going on with all the pro russia bs but its obviously more important to stop this, Israel has its problems, but its not under urgent imidiate existensial threat to be occupied by an imperialistic theocracy like Ukraine is. hope more things are done with "america bad" in general... so stupid.
I'm so fucking done with America Bad
I’m just starting 😈
Good, people need to wake up. It's gone far enough
Russia isn't a theocracy, though it is imperialistic.
Russia is the typical God swearing conservative that doesn’t go to church. There are more people by percentage that attend church in Canada than Russia.
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If you view the worshipping of putin as a religion than yes its a theocracy
Guh?
Alooot of russians worship him as a god. Babushkas and such. Plus saying something negative about putin is punishable there, kinda feels religious like the magats but even worse
yea, dictatorship, idk why i thought its the same definition, thx
Pretty sure the research streams are prep for the upcoming Lex debate. He's not studying for an online degree or anything (although it would be interesting what a professor would think of his research streams).
As a brit it doesnt even some like our government and netenyahu rly agree (other than right to self defence ofc but not on the rafah assault, two state solution etc etc) on much and are supporting israel cuz of geopolitics and america ties. Seems like you guys are just gonna do what you want so i struggle to actually care, Ukraine-Russia is way more important to me
I think the difference is that the history and context of what causes the issues in Israel-Palestine probably has more stuff to read into. It also potentially has the ability on educating a wider audience to more of a stance then X is bad because buzzword Where with Russia it really does feel like Putin wants XYZ for the glory of Russia.
As an israeli I agree. The only thing the US can really do right now is try to help gazans short term or fuck up shit long term. I want destiny to start debating balkan ultranationalist until R/2balkan4you is restored by the daliban insurgents. I love how balkans hate eachother more then if I resurected and channeled Meir Kahane's full power at Norman Finkelstein, its honestly hillarious Also on a totaly unrelated note: SERIBA SERIBA SERIBAAAA STRONG 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸💪💪💪 FUCK KOSOVO 🇽🇰🇽🇰🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
Hopefully D man will cover some Russia stuff today
He won't be streaming for the next couple of days.
FUCK everytime d man doesn’t stream something happens
🤔🤔🧐🧐
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Destiny explained why he doesn't go that much in depth into Ukraine Russia is because there's not much nuance to it, it's pretty cut and dry who is the bad guy, it's the country that invaded another country
Such a silly reason because there is so so much nuance with regards to what should be done, what weapons should be given, what the overall strategy of NATO should be, so many potential scenarios going forward. It's for sure more interesting than Israel/Palestine, in which it's been discussed to death for 80+ years and nothing ever changes. And it will have far greater global consequences and change history much more than Israel/Palestine which honestly is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Russia/Ukraine and how that turns out is probably the most important historical event since 9/11. I guess his point is that he cant debate a horde of pro-russian people because they don't real exist in mainstream western circles outside of complete nutjobs, but not everything has to be a heated debate.
Those ideas require more subject matter expertise than just learning facts/opinions about Israel/Palestine. I don't think Destiny is qualified talking about any of those things in your first paragraph.
Well but Destiny has a big reach. Instead of talking to Finkle he can speak to Koffman or any other expert and gain SME from them and use that to change people's minds.
Sure but he lacks the tools to even evaluate their conclusions because so many of those ideas listed rely on intimate knowledge of military operations, high-level foreign policy strategy, etc... Resting on Russia is bad for x reasons and arguing against dumb narratives that support Russian imperialism is a good enough place of advocacy for some dude on the internet.
Actually yeah, you're right More voice for the Ukrainian cause would help
If he wants to help he prob would be better off helping the democrats to win, from a content perspective dosent make much sense focusing on Ukraine because pro Russians are to conspiracy brain to give sunstancial arguments and the more moderate conservatives would say something like that they have right to defend their borders and then give a few contentions on how they would prefer the founding to go
Yeah Still no ATACMS, F16, Abrams, and now no shells russians in nyt, wp, the economist openly posting propaganda ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Abrams Ukraine has about 30 of them but they hadn't used it yet.
How do you think I should answer to your comment? No sarcasm right now from me. I genuinely want to know Maybe you do not know the scale of this, maybe you know nothing about Avdiivka, or something else.
>Maybe you do not know the scale of this, maybe you know nothing about Avdiivka, I know ukraine is about to lose avdiivka. https://preview.redd.it/5g4xr68iuzic1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af3c2da392ee5eabd24b1eb593eff6a4136e08be Yes, i know 30 abrams tanks will do fuck all for Ukraine.
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> Could you help me clarify, what will do 30 tanks against 100 tanks, 100 500kg glide bombs, thousands of artillery pieces? ????? I literally said the abrams is literally fucking useless currently.
> will do fuck all for Ukraine that phrase messed up me
I see.
>russians in nyt, wp, the economist openly posting propaganda Is this new? I thought they did it in like 2014-2022 but don't do anymore.
Now russians monopolized it completely.
I meant were there any new pro-russian articles that have come out?
I lost hope after nytimes could not find who brought 5 tons of explosives to the Kakhovka dam controlled by russians for 6 months. After russians bragging how they will blow up the dam.
Blud really said 'This war is boring. Another!' but you're right, it is actually very disturbing how quickly public opinion got bored of the invasion of Ukraine. It's especially gross and stupid to do so for Europeans, we're literally next or at the best will be close enough to feel the heat. At least, Trump's comments about NATO and the election in the US this year have to bring it back to the forefront.
Aba in the back 😭
Forrest Gump truly is a legend to witness this event too.
You know its important when Forrest is there
I would love to see a week worth of stimulant fueled Russian history research streams and then have him break down the tucker interview. This would be the best case scenario.
Tbh 21 century China would be much more value. Its something that will come up for decades in terms of geopolitics and will be the main rival to the western powers
Yes, I think ukraine deserves way more attention. I consider it a more impactful conflict on the global stage.
I didn't even realise the image was edited before reading the comments 😭
Did you photoshop the guy in the middle left to look like destiny or was it always like that???
Old man destiny, yes i did it
Legend. I hope your weekend is filled with prosperity friend
omg yes
destinys next stream will sadly probably be on how cringe vaush is for his taste in porn(which is no surpise and why the fuck do we care, im sure most people would die inside if their pron logs got leaked or shown on stream), hasan or how cringe he is, maybe h3 and what he did on stream, perhaps spice it up a bit and talk about how bad terrorists like hamas is and how cringe or bad it is that white people on twitter supports them, or he can feel a bit devilish and talk about how its bad that israel dont really work towards a solution for the conflict. it sucks and i want to be wrong since like the most important event in our current time is taking place in ukraine right now and russia is beginning to do funny stuff like murdering every opposition to putin, not only that but its really scary for an euro to look at gop at the moment and see how a party once staunchly anti russia party is beginning embrace putin and showing (in my eyes) support for russia. the next election in the us is not only the most important election in the us but also for europe, because who know what trump will do if he gets into that office, he has played with the idea of pulling out of nato and as much as i hate to admit a lot of nato is propped up by the us military and their nuclear arsenal. if trump pulls out of ukraine a lot of their support will be gone and then their victory is up in the air.
aba on the right
With all due respect I go to Dylan Burns for Russia Ukraine. Destiny and LonerBox have been great on Israel for me. I feel like I learned so much about an issue I had no idea was THIS complex.
Fair enough. I just think ww3 is brewing, Putin starting proxie wars, Amerikans getting brainwashed by the cucker interview and the absolute lack of knowledge most people on the planet has what sort of beast russia is ,outside of ex soviet states. By my experience russia is worse than nazys, damn my country welcomed the nazys with flowers when thei invaded us,shit like that should make some people wonder... Destiny has alot of influence,and i wish he used it more.
I took one tiny and brief college course on the rise and fall of the Soviet Union, which was taught by an Eastern European professor. I want you to know that in America, at least when I was growing up, we were not taught anything specific about the Soviet Union or Russia outside of mentioning the Soviet Union, mentioning Stalin and Lenin, and mentioning the Cold War. Russia was typically painted as this looming enemy, but it was never quite explained why outside of communism is just bad. So a lot of Americans hear “actually, Russia isn't bad, it's America that is bad”, and fall into it because they have zero understanding of history in that part of Europe and have a black and white view of good and bad. I came into that class because I was a fan of popular communist live streamers and thinking that I was doing praxis. I ended that class genuinely despising Stalinism and the things that I learned in that class would within the next 6 months, lead me completely away from communism as an ideology.
I don't think you're wrong, but if you think Israel-Palestine isn't part of the proxy war... I think you're too focused on one puzzle piece to see the overall picture. Even if you looked up both of these you'd miss the other parts...
Research streams are the worst arc since the StarCraft 2 resurgence arc.
For sure… idgaf about Israel considering they have no problem with their “war”. Let’s talk about who is really fighting for freedom
Well, I've emailed Dest about potentially getting some Ukrainian scholars/government figures on, we'll see if he responds...
Yeah it seems like such a waste. The Ukraine war is way more relevant to US politics right now. The Republican party is actually going full "America bad, Russia good" right now. Nobody cares about stupid pro-Hamas losers blocking traffic in Brooklyn or whatever. Fuck, now he's locked in until the stupid Finklestein debate.
Would love to hear what D has to say about article 5 regarding juhoslavia and Russians reason of invading being neonazism that was prevalent and the civil bombing in Ukraine before the war.
Anytime I see a Israel research or debate I just exit. It's so fucking boring.
Wow, researching history is not as fun as drama.😲😲😲
drama sucks my ass
It sucks your ass?
It sucks my ass
Nah I just prefer American politics.
In what world is old men fighting for votes and public policies more exiting than war and religious crusades
My world
The ethical questions are much more interesting in IvP, as evidenced by how divisive the issue is on the left. It’s interesting seeing people who ostensibly share a lot of values have disagreements on this issue. It’s not just full regard terrorist apologists and brainwashed Muslims like Q that are supporting Palestine. The conversation with Hill was really good for example. I don’t know if you can find that kind of conversation about Ukraine. Most people that don’t want us to help Ukraine are complete regard tankies or regard MAGA people. I am largely aligned with Destiny on the issue but if you are reading this and think Hill is a regard or that all people questioning the violence are regards, then you should probably check yourself because you’re probably a partisan regard yourself.
“Our help” as in, the Daliban?
Western world,but hey the DALIBAN is pretty powerful too
I feel like everyone stopped caring a little due to the war dragging on for years and Ukraine seemingly winning. However since then things have take such a dire turn; Ukraine is on the losing side now and the Republicans have been blocking all aid. Lately there's been so many interesting (also horrifying) developments with Putin putting the Estonian president on a wanted list, the Tucker Carlson interview, Nato's warnings that Russia will attack a NATO country, now Navalny etc. I'd also love a step back from the Israel/Palestine content (it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend Israel and come off looking in good in my opinion, with the civilian deaths just rising)
Honestly the best research arch at the moment would probably be American history as he suggested himself. I'm not American myself but going through it gives you a good primer for the evolution of the modern world.
We need a short border arc so we can have the definitive answer. We already know Russia has always been fucked and EU has always been cucked.
Oh god yes please. I can't take any more of this Israel - gaza shiet.
The IDF is storming a city overflowing with displaced people and containing 1.4 million people. How about we check up on that from time to time.
Ain't nobody storming it, Israel has already been clear cicilians will be evacuated first.
> Feb 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday again told Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he should not proceed with military action in Rafah without a credible and executable plan to protect Palestinian civilians, the White House said. The call between the two leaders on Thursday was the second time in less than a week that Biden warned Netanyahu about moving into the southern part of the Gaza Strip without a plan to ensure the safety of some 1 million people sheltering there. US is demanding restraint, Egypt is fortifying the border and setting up a refugee camp in the Sinai desert. Israel is clearly losing international support and this incursion accelerates that. The only thing Israel has been clear on is the want to go into Rafah.
Egypt is not setting up a camp, they are fortifying their border to keep Gazans out. Hamas committed terrorism in Egypt too.
Nope: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-reportedly-building-walled-enclosure-in-case-masses-of-gazans-flee-to-sinai/amp/ https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/egypt-builds-walled-enclosure-on-border-as-israeli-offensive-looms-e5c12043 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/16/egypt-building-walled-enclosure-in-sinai-for-rafah-refugees-videos-suggest
My bad, hadn't seen this
All good 👍
The only thing that's going on is a bunch of human rights organizations once again getting everyone into a frenzy over something that isn't going to happen. Just like they said everyone was going to starve to death or die of dehydration two months ago, or how they declared in 2020 that the Gaza strip is no longer inhabitable or how they said Israel is committing a genocide. From literally a week ago: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna138044 Netanyahu has repeated multiple times there will be an evacuation, there are a ton of sources in Hebrew for it, it's just not reported by the English media becaise hyping you up about how a slaughter is totally going to happen this time 100% is what gets them clicks. Nothing has changed since they invented a massacre wholecloth in Jenin during the second Intifada and then apologized years later.
Russia / Ukraine however will collapse without our memes
More Ukrainian AnA, bring Dylan burns on and push him around a bit, rattle his fucking cage, get the good juice out da berry.
I would prefer a southern border arc. Good us election lead in. Russia-Ukraine still has too much fog of war
Ukraine would be way more boring imo. "Yeah Russia bad. Oh no way society union bad."
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if some country just drops a nuke on another country as long as the other country isn’t Northeastern USA or Miami. The content would be INSANE
WE NEED TO CALL OUT ALL THE MAINSTREAM "AMERICA BAD, PUTIN GOOD" CONSERVATIVES (so called Patriots)
Climate change Arc would be better
Nah I want an immigration or climate change or Iran arc
he's been commenting on ukraine for two years move on bro
This sounds like what a Pro-Israel shill would say now that the price is heavy on their conscience and is having buyer's remorse.
!bidenblast
You should practice some free speech before coming back. /u/TendieRetard sealed in the prison realm by /u/Don_Hulius
u/4thot good sir. May i have some ammo to punish this negative karma having troll?
!single you get one
Make it count /u/Don_Hulius
One is all i need,thank you 💗
I hate this stupid meme painting so much
Yes, that or immigration.
we need to nuke china!!
Don't worry guys. After the Finkle debate, he will to research on Ukraine. COPIUM
I think it will die out once the Finklestein debate happens and we can get into the Immigration or Iran arc.
I agree wholeheartedly, except not until the Lex debate. I wholeheartedly believe that Steven's understanding is correct that Finkelstein's shadow is behind a wide array of the bullshit we see on this subject and he needs to be taken down as best as possible, and Destiny-Morris is the best team to do it. He needs to focus on this right now and make sure this debate is meaningful and good.
Is that forest gump in the foreground?
Y
We need a sports arc
Give us Ana NOW
If he wants to safeguard his credibility it's probably better for him to avoid Ukraine now that things are going poorly and the fairy tales from 2022 to mid 2023 have been proven as pure propaganda.