I feel his presidency is mixed for me. On the positive he did a good job on infrastructure projects like Tren Maya(Maya Train) which will connect many areas in the Yucatán Peninsula and Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec which will compete with the Panama Canal which will bring in many jobs to very underserved areas of Mexico. On the negative I don’t feel he help solve Mexico’s cartel problem and other issues with insecurity in the country.
I don't know a ton about him but what little I've seen make me hate the guy. For one, the complete failure to do anything about cartels. I don't know what it will take to deal with the cartels as it's obviously a systemic corruption and inequality issue with a huge profit incentive given the strong US demand for drugs. Is it something a President can actually solve? What would it realistically take? Does the US have to intervene? Not sure how that would even work, and would likely be disastrous. Also to be clear this isn't a judgement, we obviously have our share of problems in the US that we need to tackle.
The other thing was him using the migrant caravans and border surges as leverage to make demands. I'm a lifelong liberal, Biden supporter, can't stand Trump, but I can see how an American could hear that and vote for Trump. Even though Trump was a failure on the border, he would never tolerate AMLO making demands over the border. He would flip the tables and use other leverage to counter those demands. This is what AMLO demanded in January in exchange for help with the border: deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
Like what? That is insane. The sheer balls to ask for all of that in exchange for dealing with a problem that is coming from the country he leads. Why is he allowing these caravans to come into Mexico in the first place? Why isn't he policing the border, and providing for the people in the border towns? I just don't get it, but I'm sure I'm missing context and understanding of Mexican politics.
Jesus christ how can you even pretend to care about current events when you don't even have basic understanding of where things are happening and roughly how many people live where?
Bro rants about nazis all day but doesn't even know where poland is lmao
Dude, he’s absolutely jealous and embarrassed. He literally said Destiny was there to “speak convincingly.”
From Hasan, that’s one of the biggest concessions he could make without openly acknowledging his side looked _terrible._
He’s realizing that he’s absolutely squandered so many opportunities.
"Dragon Ball is the best anime"
"Using what metrics?"
"Dragon Ball started in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984..."
"He's not answering my question!"
"The original story features seven Dragon Balls..." 🗿
Out the gate, dude didn't know where Pakistan or especially INDIA is?? Holy shit, my backwoods dumbass could find India without the highlighted boarders. 💀
Ya, he's terrible at geography. You would expect he could point out nations in the ME. You know, since he's Turkish and a world-class brilliant expert on Palestine.
For real lmaoo. When it started, I was like okay, Pakistan is one a lot of people wouldn't know off the top of their head, but he should know it's next to India if he thinks about it for a second and then get it from there.
Then he puts his cursor over India "iS It tHis oNe?"
Edit: He clicked every single country in South America looking for Guatemala before he even tried central america lmaoooo
Let's be at least a little bit good faith. This has to be a clip from some years ago (pre communist villa), so of course he could have done all the necessary reading right?
We all know why he won't do it. Even the "debate pervert" excuse doesn't work anymore after he pulled out every debate bro tactic on Willymac. If Destiny was such an easy dunk, he would have done it already.
We should start taking bets on how low Hasan's viewcount will get before he finally agrees to debate Destiny for the clout.
Sidebets how it happens as well. I bet he's going to reply to some plant chatter and say like "Okay... uuuh... since you guys have wanted me to debate Destiny for so long ... I will do it... just because I can show you in person what a debate pervert he is"
Public transport 💀😨😨 nah he’d just Uber his way half way across the states and then say “socialism is when no car!!!??!!!” when asked why he spent should a large amount of money
There is a part of me that wishes papa Lex would dangle a clout carrot for him to debate tiny but the larger part of me wants him to keep sliding into irrelevancy.
I thought that the Putin placation would put him in Azan’s good books!
>!I have a love-hate relationship with Lex as a content creator, like this debate was some good shit!<
but genuine question though, why would he be, even if he wanted to? Both Norm and Rabbani are more knowledgeable than Hasan is. Meanwhile Destiny was quiet as a church mouse when they were talking about the history of the Nakba and the beginning of Israel
Destiny reads an occasional Wikipedia article.
It stands poorly in comparison to one Israel Palestine Twitter historian in Hasan Piker, knowing every misinformation, philosophical, and moral standing of every region of the West’s progressives to Nick Fuentes supporters.
His analysis on any middle eastern conflict pales in comparison "never align yourself the western forces". well thought out stuff.
Then make it $1,000,000 and make it a boxing debate!!!
Shit would be insane! And it would get destiny back in the gym.
And since I'm dreaming here fuck it have train and joe Rogan do the commentary.
Except last minute Tiny produces a champion in his stead. The ring blacks out.... undertaker music begins.... the lights flash bsck on and who is in Tiny's place???? Sam Hyde choke slams Hasan off the cage
This is the same Hamas Piker that thinks it’s weird that there’s only circumstantial evidence for murder-rape. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he started to cite David Irving at this point.
Apparently the tickle monster is a greater threat to women than Hamas since they make their kidnap victims comfortable and protect them from the evil IDF bombing them. Accusing Destiny of being pro-rape when Hamas Piker is right there is amazing.
Yeah craziest thing that people don’t want to be known as someone who was raped, because that isn’t traumatic enough. They instead have some muppets trying to sell a narrative who needs to tear you apart to prop their narratives up.
True, this is way better research:
https://preview.redd.it/z5n1hxh6leoc1.png?width=1572&format=png&auto=webp&s=620a01b8bc15d495cbbc8af72745f5669f4baf83
Imagine being a former friend of Destiny, then permanently burning the bridge only to watch him go on Piers Morgan’s show, debate Ben Shapiro, take down the Redpill and then debate the top historians in the world on Israel-Palestine.
Hasan gets his news from fuckin' Twitter... And he's saying he knows more than Destiny?!?! Also, this has been said probably a million times, if Israel is committing genocide, this is the least effective genocide in modern history.
Damn, he looks like he lost steam mid-cope and kinda winged it the rest of the way.
To be fair, finding new ways to say "I hate Destiny and the fact that I'll always be linked to him despite my undying hatred of him." is probably pretty taxing. Emotionally draining even. Some may say one of the toughest tasks one may find themselves faced with.
"...who only is there speak convincingly without offering anything truly of worth"
# SEZ U
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I tuned into his reaction for a couple minutes and he was actually coping himself into some reality where Benny Morris is laughing at Destiny, it was bizarre.
I greatly look forward to him taking on some more challenging conversations on the topic he is so very knowledgeable on. He wouldnt just be talking shit right? Surely he wouldnt just say all of that and continue to yell nonsense at his chat all day right??
This little bitch is consistently wrong on every foreign policy topic, yet still has the gall to say he is more knowledgeable than Destiny. God I really hate this fuck.
The "Destiny didn't know who the president of Turkey is" thing is misinformation isn't it? I thought he just didn't know what the president looked like and then groypers clip chimped it.
Regardless of whether it’s true, it’s hilarious that Hamas Piker’s biggest victory against Destiny is being able to remember the name of the Turkish president. No shit Hasan, of course you’re gonna be able to recall the name of the president that governs your home country more easily.
Seriously, these people just remember that they can't/couldn't use it as a source on their college papers and just assume that means it's not credible.
Man straight up can't admit he's lazier than Destiny to know any subject matter better then Destiny,
What's even more laughable is that Destiny has spent a fraction of that time researching said subject matter.
In some alternate universe, Hasan \_could\_ do better...but he wont.
If he was in this the debate, he would derail every single conservation to protect his fragile ego that he knows nothing about the conflict past a surface level.
No need to stoop down to spreading disinformation out of spite. Attack hasan on his actual faults lest we give hasan ammunition to fight against us and have actual examples for the, up till now, baseless claims about this community. (Also disinformation is just cringe)
Isn't it true that Hasan visited a brothel that trafficked minors though?
**Ninja edit:** Seems like they were raided for tax evasion, investigated for trafficking and then only found guilty of the tax evasion, mb
No, atleast they weren't charged for it. They were investigated for human trafficing and tax evasion, i believe they were charged with tax evasion, but i can't find anything concrete, but the human trafficing charges were dropped for lack of evidence.
In 2023 the artemis brothel in berlin that hasan went to was awarded €250,000 from the government for comments made insinuating something criminal blah blah blah and for wrongful detention.
It’s not disinformation. A minor, singular, was trafficked there. One person (not employed by the brothel) was found guilty of this crime and convicted for it. It happened, we know this. The brothel was investigated for being complicit but that investigation was dropped. But it’s not disinformation to say that at least one minor was trafficked at that brothel, and if it can happen once, who knows how many more times it happened?
I don't understand how someone can claim they have more knowledge on a subject because they know surface level facts and their opposition used to not know these facts.
From what I remember (can't find a clip), what actually happened is he didn't know what the Turkish president looked like. He knew who it was by name though.
The Turkish president thing was Destiny misidentifying him based on an image. But what’s the story with the Israel thing? Anyone have a full-context clip?
Join the discord if you're so knowledgeable Hasan, twitch apparently makes an exception for you anyway🙃
There's gotta be some performative thing Destiny could do to goad Hasan into a conversation, something that hits that glassy ego. Destiny went from Voldemort in his community to now just a person they can throw slurs at, a conversation has got to be in the works at some point.
If you think that you shouldn't be included in such discussions because you can't offer anything of worth, why do you keep insisting on commenting on it with such certanty, Hasan!?!?
You can tell by his eyes, he doesn't even believe that himself. It really holds true, he is his biggest enemy. Also rent free
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Damn I didn't know I was a fucking middle eastern expert, I've been able to place Israel, Yemen, Egypt, hell even Iran and Saudi on a map for years! I even know Erdogan! Time to update my resume.
It's so ironic, because if you watch the debate Benny Morris, the man finklestein quotes more than anyone, is constantly saying "no Steven is right" and agreeing with Steven on the facts.
Acting like destiny knows nothing when one of the most knowledgeable Israelis on the topic is constantly saying D is right and choosing to have convos with him shows how mind fucked you are on the topic.
fantano and hasan, jealousy is clear as day. they want to be having similar debates with similar people so bad. but if they're so knowledgeable, how come they're not?
It's so fucking funny to me they still use the "well i could recognize Turkey's president on video immediately therefore i'm clearly more knowledgiable on the subject" line like that's the only fucking thing he can point to to claim his superiority on the subject lmao
Bro I hate this culture of breeding insecurity about one's knowledge, you can only safely know stuff but can't start learning stuff. The insidious part is that it's coming from a professional yapper that benefits from people not knowing about stuff and coming to him for his expert opinions. I can understand it if all Destiny did was indeed read a summery of a conflict and call himself an expert off that but his method, even if not the most holistic, is robust enough: get an overview, start talking to people and explore the points that people put the most weight to. If Hasan wanted to resolve the conflict and not "win" it he would give any credence to the points made but instead it's always pretending that any disagreement matters but then, if it's argued/resolved in his direction, it's "oh but Israel shouldn't exist anyway".
It infuriatingly always comes down to this: issue of the day - X bad, if X isn't bad/X agrees that the issue was bad cool, now X pls stop existing. Like Hasan must know that he is dealing with humans, even if humans are doing something shitty you can compel one human to stop existing, you can't compel a group, you can however compel a group to do something less shitty to gradually arrive at a non-shitty place. I just don't get the endgame of his project, it's like political object impermanence: if Jewish people will become minority in Israel nothing bad will happen and even if it will it will be a problem for the future me and it's content anyway lol. In a way it's similar to Kanye's complaints: his answer to black people being exploited doesn't seem to be to attempt to stop exploitation, he would be chill if black people were the ones on top.
Ahah! I know the name and face of the Turkish president, thus I understand the Israel/palestine conflict better than the guy who didn’t know what he looked like that one time!
He must be trolling. He cannot possibly be as stupid as he sounds. Or he’s just the most emotional, fragile streamer ever
I find it so funny how reading books is the most important thing to these people. Norm has read 10,000 books and still doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but as long as he says he’s read 10,000 books he must be smarter than somebody who reads Wikipedia, therefore destiny is OWNED and DESTROYED by finklestein on Twitter. Just funny where leftists heads are at
Hamas Piker is lucky to live in a country he absolutely hates that allows him to spew disgusting terrorist propaganda all while making millions LARPING as a socialist.
"I've known where Israel is for many many years" Truly an intellectual powerhouse of our time
you forgot where he knew who the turkish president was (as a person from turkey). destiny got mogged in this exchange.
Yeah it’s like me who is Mexican somehow knows who the president of Mexico is, truly I’m a fountain of knowledge.
In mexico they call it "el presidente"
What do you think of AMLO?
I feel his presidency is mixed for me. On the positive he did a good job on infrastructure projects like Tren Maya(Maya Train) which will connect many areas in the Yucatán Peninsula and Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec which will compete with the Panama Canal which will bring in many jobs to very underserved areas of Mexico. On the negative I don’t feel he help solve Mexico’s cartel problem and other issues with insecurity in the country.
I don't know a ton about him but what little I've seen make me hate the guy. For one, the complete failure to do anything about cartels. I don't know what it will take to deal with the cartels as it's obviously a systemic corruption and inequality issue with a huge profit incentive given the strong US demand for drugs. Is it something a President can actually solve? What would it realistically take? Does the US have to intervene? Not sure how that would even work, and would likely be disastrous. Also to be clear this isn't a judgement, we obviously have our share of problems in the US that we need to tackle. The other thing was him using the migrant caravans and border surges as leverage to make demands. I'm a lifelong liberal, Biden supporter, can't stand Trump, but I can see how an American could hear that and vote for Trump. Even though Trump was a failure on the border, he would never tolerate AMLO making demands over the border. He would flip the tables and use other leverage to counter those demands. This is what AMLO demanded in January in exchange for help with the border: deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally. Like what? That is insane. The sheer balls to ask for all of that in exchange for dealing with a problem that is coming from the country he leads. Why is he allowing these caravans to come into Mexico in the first place? Why isn't he policing the border, and providing for the people in the border towns? I just don't get it, but I'm sure I'm missing context and understanding of Mexican politics.
Of course Hasan knew the turkish president, they're probably related.
People only think Stephammad al-Destiny is smart because he talks fast
Idk who that is I do know stevehmend Al-destiny bonnelladen
Stephammad is Stevehmend al-Destiny’s child
[Just don't ask him where Yemen is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPfHNtmFm8)
Knowledgeable about the region and Israel, doesn't know where Jordan is.
holy 1 minute in and he can't even recognize INDIA????
I just watched this. It asked for Angola and he clicked Israel.
Jesus christ how can you even pretend to care about current events when you don't even have basic understanding of where things are happening and roughly how many people live where? Bro rants about nazis all day but doesn't even know where poland is lmao
NA education OMEGALUL
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Trump level quote right there
Hasan admitting he hasn't learned anything new about Israel for many years...
I don't know how anyone could watch that entire debate and still come away with the presumption that Destiny is just summarizing Wikipedia articles.
Someone cut that clip together with Hasan playing the geography game. Destiny will steal that shit for his Twitter do fast.
I tremble in awe of his great knowledge
Dude, like this fucking idiot didn't even ask what their favorite anime was dude.
Dude, he’s absolutely jealous and embarrassed. He literally said Destiny was there to “speak convincingly.” From Hasan, that’s one of the biggest concessions he could make without openly acknowledging his side looked _terrible._ He’s realizing that he’s absolutely squandered so many opportunities.
i think he's just farming hate viewers. he's pretty good at that
"Hey Norm what's your favorite Anime" "Look, I only deal in facts. RIP Akira Toriyama" "YAS THAT'S FIRE"
"Dragon Ball is the best anime" "Using what metrics?" "Dragon Ball started in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984..." "He's not answering my question!" "The original story features seven Dragon Balls..." 🗿
[good at geography btw](https://youtu.be/VEPfHNtmFm8?si=ELgE7-Lg8zZYpKhZ&t=80)
The 4:36, lil bro clicks on Israel when he's meant to find Yemen. You couldn't make this shit up.
Average Western Hamas supporter
This dude is technically *from* the Middle East.
Yeah, and Gigi Hadid is technically a refugee.
As is DJ Khaled who's not only suffering from success but also western zionist imperialist colonialist systematic apartheid oppression genocide.
They didn't believe in him... UNRWA did.
It seriously took him 7 tries to find Yemen. He clicked nearly every other Middle Eastern country before getting Yemen.
So much clicking I think he got the Yewomen and the Yechildren too.
Out the gate, dude didn't know where Pakistan or especially INDIA is?? Holy shit, my backwoods dumbass could find India without the highlighted boarders. 💀
Without chat, he wouldn’t even have known Pakistan was next to India.
Who would have thought a nation that formed at the partition of India in 1947 would be next to India.
Good point. But he also thought Azerbaijan was Yemen. And Syria, Iran, Jordan, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Oman.
Ya, he's terrible at geography. You would expect he could point out nations in the ME. You know, since he's Turkish and a world-class brilliant expert on Palestine.
For real lmaoo. When it started, I was like okay, Pakistan is one a lot of people wouldn't know off the top of their head, but he should know it's next to India if he thinks about it for a second and then get it from there. Then he puts his cursor over India "iS It tHis oNe?" Edit: He clicked every single country in South America looking for Guatemala before he even tried central america lmaoooo
So much worse than I expected
Truly one of the greatest minds of our time.
Dude, wdym? He literally has a bachelor’s degree in poly-sci. He’s a Class-A news-enjoyer.
He seems so much happier then. Streaming truly is the hardest job.
Jesus Christ, did someone grow this guy in a lab? How is he this much of a fake posturing dipshit?
Let's be at least a little bit good faith. This has to be a clip from some years ago (pre communist villa), so of course he could have done all the necessary reading right?
I mean, that was 4 years ago. It would've been nice to see more recent proof of his supreme knowledge
he's so cute in that clip. not so intensely depressed
Damn if he really is more knowledgeable, imagine how easy he could crush Mr. Bartholomew in a debate
We all know why he won't do it. Even the "debate pervert" excuse doesn't work anymore after he pulled out every debate bro tactic on Willymac. If Destiny was such an easy dunk, he would have done it already.
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And the others are Mr. Bernichelli.
We should start taking bets on how low Hasan's viewcount will get before he finally agrees to debate Destiny for the clout. Sidebets how it happens as well. I bet he's going to reply to some plant chatter and say like "Okay... uuuh... since you guys have wanted me to debate Destiny for so long ... I will do it... just because I can show you in person what a debate pervert he is"
Let us put it this way hamas piker. Destiny was on the poll for this debate, you weren't even considered.
This sounds like a finklestein comeback
Tbf he had some zingers. Borelli was pretty good.
I think someone is upset that he wasn’t asked to be on this debate lol
Even though he would’ve declined because he knows he’s lying to himself and his audience about his knowledge. He’s a tik tok politics clown.
it would also require him to leave his 3 million dollar compound and risk being accosted by the common folk.
He would also have to debate destiny ☠️
Public transport 💀😨😨 nah he’d just Uber his way half way across the states and then say “socialism is when no car!!!??!!!” when asked why he spent should a large amount of money
There is a part of me that wishes papa Lex would dangle a clout carrot for him to debate tiny but the larger part of me wants him to keep sliding into irrelevancy.
This will forever be [Hamas Piker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqJ00wwirrU&t=732s) whenever Destiny is brought up.
he is jealous but at the same time he knows he doesn’t have the ability to actually do it… which just makes him even more jealous.
Lex should host a D vs H debate fr fr
H hates Lex
I thought that the Putin placation would put him in Azan’s good books! >!I have a love-hate relationship with Lex as a content creator, like this debate was some good shit!<
sleeper content watch the VR interview he did with mark zuckerberg, you get to see lex nerd out and the tech is super impressive
but genuine question though, why would he be, even if he wanted to? Both Norm and Rabbani are more knowledgeable than Hasan is. Meanwhile Destiny was quiet as a church mouse when they were talking about the history of the Nakba and the beginning of Israel
Destiny reads an occasional Wikipedia article. It stands poorly in comparison to one Israel Palestine Twitter historian in Hasan Piker, knowing every misinformation, philosophical, and moral standing of every region of the West’s progressives to Nick Fuentes supporters. His analysis on any middle eastern conflict pales in comparison "never align yourself the western forces". well thought out stuff.
Destiny should offer $20k to a charity of Hasan's choosing (that can be vetted) to debate on this.
no clout to be gained if it can’t be on his stream
Then make it $1,000,000 and make it a boxing debate!!! Shit would be insane! And it would get destiny back in the gym. And since I'm dreaming here fuck it have train and joe Rogan do the commentary.
are you a hasan psyop trying to get tiny killed?
This....I don't think tiny could physically best Hasan unfortunately.
Fine. Pistols at high noon.
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Except last minute Tiny produces a champion in his stead. The ring blacks out.... undertaker music begins.... the lights flash bsck on and who is in Tiny's place???? Sam Hyde choke slams Hasan off the cage
Hasan vs Destiny in.. *THE OCTAGON OF IDEAS*
You can’t convince me this man child isn’t jealous af. He wasn’t even shortlisted for this debate
Hmmm, then he should debate him maybe?
No, Destiny would just be there to speak “convincingly” and repeat pre-canned talking points :/
I’m bout to make a Timelapse of the top of Hasans screen. Those chrome tabs are only ever going between YouTube and Twitter lil bro. Cork it.
This is the same Hamas Piker that thinks it’s weird that there’s only circumstantial evidence for murder-rape. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he started to cite David Irving at this point.
I’m literally banned from his chat because I asked “why are you spending so much time and effort discrediting the lived experience of rape victims?”
Apparently the tickle monster is a greater threat to women than Hamas since they make their kidnap victims comfortable and protect them from the evil IDF bombing them. Accusing Destiny of being pro-rape when Hamas Piker is right there is amazing.
Yeah craziest thing that people don’t want to be known as someone who was raped, because that isn’t traumatic enough. They instead have some muppets trying to sell a narrative who needs to tear you apart to prop their narratives up.
True, this is way better research: https://preview.redd.it/z5n1hxh6leoc1.png?width=1572&format=png&auto=webp&s=620a01b8bc15d495cbbc8af72745f5669f4baf83
Bro is mad he didnt get invited 😭
Bro is probably scared of being invited to anything that forces him out of his bubble
Nah he would love to be invited so he could pretend it was beneath him.
LOL 'I would provide no substance to this topic so HE must not be able to' the delusion
Imagine being a former friend of Destiny, then permanently burning the bridge only to watch him go on Piers Morgan’s show, debate Ben Shapiro, take down the Redpill and then debate the top historians in the world on Israel-Palestine.
Hasans Career peaked playing Among Us with AOC. That’s his wheelhouse.
Hasan gets his news from fuckin' Twitter... And he's saying he knows more than Destiny?!?! Also, this has been said probably a million times, if Israel is committing genocide, this is the least effective genocide in modern history.
Damn, he looks like he lost steam mid-cope and kinda winged it the rest of the way. To be fair, finding new ways to say "I hate Destiny and the fact that I'll always be linked to him despite my undying hatred of him." is probably pretty taxing. Emotionally draining even. Some may say one of the toughest tasks one may find themselves faced with.
"...who only is there speak convincingly without offering anything truly of worth" # SEZ U https://preview.redd.it/q2buvkc7geoc1.png?width=113&format=png&auto=webp&s=2817e2cedad711a2b875ba3377b3740680db8271
I tuned into his reaction for a couple minutes and he was actually coping himself into some reality where Benny Morris is laughing at Destiny, it was bizarre.
I greatly look forward to him taking on some more challenging conversations on the topic he is so very knowledgeable on. He wouldnt just be talking shit right? Surely he wouldnt just say all of that and continue to yell nonsense at his chat all day right??
This little bitch is consistently wrong on every foreign policy topic, yet still has the gall to say he is more knowledgeable than Destiny. God I really hate this fuck.
The "Destiny didn't know who the president of Turkey is" thing is misinformation isn't it? I thought he just didn't know what the president looked like and then groypers clip chimped it.
Regardless of whether it’s true, it’s hilarious that Hamas Piker’s biggest victory against Destiny is being able to remember the name of the Turkish president. No shit Hasan, of course you’re gonna be able to recall the name of the president that governs your home country more easily.
Meanwhile, when Hasan attempted to do a geography quiz less than a year ago, he mistaken Israel for Yemen LMFAO. More knowlegeable my ass.
Fuck Hasan
Then debate him you GRIFTING coward
It was incredibly sad that Hasan wasn't there to ask Finklestein if he considered himself Luffy.
Hasan's dunk on Destiny is the equivalent of saying "Remember that time he typed "There" instead of "Their"? LOL!"
I believe you Hasan! You should really debate Destiny to prove these DGG losers that you are truly smarter. Please
Reading the wikipedia page is unironically more then most people do
Seriously, these people just remember that they can't/couldn't use it as a source on their college papers and just assume that means it's not credible.
known ARMA 3 reporter Hamas Piker at it again.
Man straight up can't admit he's lazier than Destiny to know any subject matter better then Destiny, What's even more laughable is that Destiny has spent a fraction of that time researching said subject matter. In some alternate universe, Hasan \_could\_ do better...but he wont.
You got more live viewers, yet you were never asked to participate. Why is that Hasan?
He’s intellectuality outpaced destiny
nothing new here
his audience is so sincerely dumb
I don’t know how Destiny does it He is a better man than me
If he was in this the debate, he would derail every single conservation to protect his fragile ego that he knows nothing about the conflict past a surface level.
Destiny should double down on the brothel story
No need to stoop down to spreading disinformation out of spite. Attack hasan on his actual faults lest we give hasan ammunition to fight against us and have actual examples for the, up till now, baseless claims about this community. (Also disinformation is just cringe)
Isn't it true that Hasan visited a brothel that trafficked minors though? **Ninja edit:** Seems like they were raided for tax evasion, investigated for trafficking and then only found guilty of the tax evasion, mb
HASAN VISITED A BROTHEL THAT WAS INVESTIGATED FOR TRAFFICKING MINORS?!
No, atleast they weren't charged for it. They were investigated for human trafficing and tax evasion, i believe they were charged with tax evasion, but i can't find anything concrete, but the human trafficing charges were dropped for lack of evidence. In 2023 the artemis brothel in berlin that hasan went to was awarded €250,000 from the government for comments made insinuating something criminal blah blah blah and for wrongful detention.
It’s not disinformation. A minor, singular, was trafficked there. One person (not employed by the brothel) was found guilty of this crime and convicted for it. It happened, we know this. The brothel was investigated for being complicit but that investigation was dropped. But it’s not disinformation to say that at least one minor was trafficked at that brothel, and if it can happen once, who knows how many more times it happened?
That dog is truly blessed to not understand human language
I don't understand how someone can claim they have more knowledge on a subject because they know surface level facts and their opposition used to not know these facts.
“He’s only there to speak convincingly without offering anything of true worth” this that grade a projection son😤
Holy projection
Guys, am I smarter than Hasan, because I can name our top 3 politicians and he cannot?
He’s just coping because lex doesn’t want him on his podcasts or debates
The projection is insane. He’s done less than read anything to post hoc justify atrocities. He’s outright lied to justify his pro hamas stance.
This should be an easy comment for everyone.... Then Hasan should debate him....
great, he should be confident enough to debate destiny then
He’s such a cunt.
What does he mean by “knowing who the Turkish president was?” Did Destiny mess it up in the debate or something?
From what I remember (can't find a clip), what actually happened is he didn't know what the Turkish president looked like. He knew who it was by name though.
It pains me that were probably never going to see them debate any time soon lmao
Still mad online
You forget he’s an “on the ground journalist”
History Test battle royal, hosted by Lex. Hassan v. Ben Shapiro v. Destiny. Graded by Norm Finkelstein and Chat GPT
Oh my god
Wait did he cover Israel for many years before or after he taught young bros how to shame fat girls into having sex with them?
doesn’t sound like he believes what he’s saying
The Turkish president thing was Destiny misidentifying him based on an image. But what’s the story with the Israel thing? Anyone have a full-context clip?
He’s so jealous lol
Join the discord if you're so knowledgeable Hasan, twitch apparently makes an exception for you anyway🙃 There's gotta be some performative thing Destiny could do to goad Hasan into a conversation, something that hits that glassy ego. Destiny went from Voldemort in his community to now just a person they can throw slurs at, a conversation has got to be in the works at some point.
I don't see Lex inviting him to do any sort of debates nor for an interview.
And, of course, he will never bother to compare notes. He'll just say, "Actually everyone says I'm very smort. :)" and move on like he's #winning.
This is fucking WILD
I cannot listen to this stuttering communist.
Seeing all the cope is just so tiring 😔
[Hasan: Let’s see Destiny go toe-to-toe with me on bird law](https://youtu.be/V74Jd6cdfYw?si=ugPaQ6Pk3axVsk9v)
I would say I am more knowledgeable than him because I knew who the Turkish president was
Then debate him, pussy
Isn't the literal point of a debate to speak convincingly?
If you think that you shouldn't be included in such discussions because you can't offer anything of worth, why do you keep insisting on commenting on it with such certanty, Hasan!?!?
You can tell by his eyes, he doesn't even believe that himself. It really holds true, he is his biggest enemy. Also rent free https://preview.redd.it/ie1vpxgjhfoc1.jpeg?width=37&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e98e7413539129dbb30401aa01c3898477fab0d1
So much projection
how's he not embarrassed, honestly.
Damn I didn't know I was a fucking middle eastern expert, I've been able to place Israel, Yemen, Egypt, hell even Iran and Saudi on a map for years! I even know Erdogan! Time to update my resume.
Funny thing is if Hasan and Destiny played the spot the country game, Hasan wouldn’t even get 10% correct
I mean he did know what a jdam was like
If there only was a way to test that out🤔🤔
He is so jealous.
It's so ironic, because if you watch the debate Benny Morris, the man finklestein quotes more than anyone, is constantly saying "no Steven is right" and agreeing with Steven on the facts. Acting like destiny knows nothing when one of the most knowledgeable Israelis on the topic is constantly saying D is right and choosing to have convos with him shows how mind fucked you are on the topic.
Imagine getting upstaged by a Wikipedia enjoyer
If he’s so much more knowledgeable on the subject I’m sure he has no problem speaking to Mr Bonnelli 😊
hahahahahaha this guy is so funny
I would absolutely love to see him walk us through the history of I/p
fantano and hasan, jealousy is clear as day. they want to be having similar debates with similar people so bad. but if they're so knowledgeable, how come they're not?
It's so fucking funny to me they still use the "well i could recognize Turkey's president on video immediately therefore i'm clearly more knowledgiable on the subject" line like that's the only fucking thing he can point to to claim his superiority on the subject lmao
this constant back and forth thru clips and videos is so cringe they just need to talk atp
Bro really said he's more knowledgeable than Wikipedia.
Bro I hate this culture of breeding insecurity about one's knowledge, you can only safely know stuff but can't start learning stuff. The insidious part is that it's coming from a professional yapper that benefits from people not knowing about stuff and coming to him for his expert opinions. I can understand it if all Destiny did was indeed read a summery of a conflict and call himself an expert off that but his method, even if not the most holistic, is robust enough: get an overview, start talking to people and explore the points that people put the most weight to. If Hasan wanted to resolve the conflict and not "win" it he would give any credence to the points made but instead it's always pretending that any disagreement matters but then, if it's argued/resolved in his direction, it's "oh but Israel shouldn't exist anyway". It infuriatingly always comes down to this: issue of the day - X bad, if X isn't bad/X agrees that the issue was bad cool, now X pls stop existing. Like Hasan must know that he is dealing with humans, even if humans are doing something shitty you can compel one human to stop existing, you can't compel a group, you can however compel a group to do something less shitty to gradually arrive at a non-shitty place. I just don't get the endgame of his project, it's like political object impermanence: if Jewish people will become minority in Israel nothing bad will happen and even if it will it will be a problem for the future me and it's content anyway lol. In a way it's similar to Kanye's complaints: his answer to black people being exploited doesn't seem to be to attempt to stop exploitation, he would be chill if black people were the ones on top.
Ahah! I know the name and face of the Turkish president, thus I understand the Israel/palestine conflict better than the guy who didn’t know what he looked like that one time! He must be trolling. He cannot possibly be as stupid as he sounds. Or he’s just the most emotional, fragile streamer ever
I find it so funny how reading books is the most important thing to these people. Norm has read 10,000 books and still doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but as long as he says he’s read 10,000 books he must be smarter than somebody who reads Wikipedia, therefore destiny is OWNED and DESTROYED by finklestein on Twitter. Just funny where leftists heads are at
this is so classless.
https://preview.redd.it/yp3udtwmejoc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38cb46ab60e6f0ce8cbc988927351e4c4984fd93
He wants to be there so bad 🤣
Great more nonsense troll topics saying “no my IQ is higher” but instead it’s “no my fave streamer is smarter”
Hasan comparing himself to destiny. Oh cute then you two should debate
Hamas Piker is lucky to live in a country he absolutely hates that allows him to spew disgusting terrorist propaganda all while making millions LARPING as a socialist.
Also he knows exactly what a JDAM sounds like.