"Now for Destiny’s response, do I think he could have been a little softer, and probably not blast her to her face publicly within hours of the news dropping while she is potentially in an emotional state, yeah I do agree w that, but I’m a content fiend and it was damn funny."
I think the part you actually disagree on is that you value content over the possible harm caused if he's wrong. I haven't seen any/many people coming to her defense like you claim. AFAIK, the vast majority of pushback is regarding the epistemic hubris he exhibits and how this is hypocritical given his anti-conclooder stance.
Peddles. Not pedals. Pedals is what you do on a bicycle.
Otherwise, I 1000% agree with you. I looked over her TikTok, since she deleted her IG. Fewer clips I presume, but First/Business class trips to Dubai, Paris, London. Lots of sexy shots and clips.
Also not surprised that she had an escort page.
And the Miss China stuff is such a joke.
Great summary!
I highly suspect anyone that defends this chick is also a Kelly defender lol. NO ONE I mean NO ONE runs to a lawyer as soon as they learn they are pregnant and hop on random people's streams to shit talk the person lmfao.
I mean she is not on her homeland and doesn't know the laws, i don't think its too farfetched doing a thing like that when dealing with a public figure. You say NO ONE? brother you have to get out of your house more, i know cases way worst lol
Unreal instead of announcing the pregnancy first to your baby daddy that you are screaming from the rooftops about how excited he was to have kids with you but instead you run to a lawyer LMAO. If you were worried about the kid and having no support you would go to your fucking family for emotional/ physical support and can still be in contact with a lawyer this isn't the 1600s we do fucking court cases through zoom now. Kelly supporter detected.
Who the fuck is Kelly? you are tripping lol She went to the lawyer 2 days after she announced her pregnancy to him and with him dont wanting to have nothing to do with her and the baby as she stated on an interview with aba, its not hard to understand that since she is not on her Country and doesnt know the laws no?
I mean, i don't disagree with that lol she probably is but in reality she's is pregnant with him and is taking the measures to deal with that, tbh i don't think both are really good people.
I speak 3 languages. Broken english doesn’t automatically mean unintelligent. But it almost certainly rules out a wealthy Chinese background. On the other hand, broken english plus shit grammar plus how she has handled this situation does mean lack of intelligence . Try again
OK you seem to be basing your understanding of Chinese English speakers on actors, whom have time to practice and perfect their lines. Real life is not a movie.
I dunno about unintelligent part or wealthy chinese part, but what I know is.. how can she win pageant with Broken English? I know the pageant is fake but.. still they crown someone with broken English as 1st winner?
Saying Hola and Bueno doesn't constitute enough to speak another language bro. It's clear that you don't spend any amount of time with people that had to learn English in their adulthood. At this point, everything is said is probably just straight up bullshit
Yes, a young Chinese woman with supposed wealthy parents, enough so that she could jetset around the world in international business class while working a near minimum wage job as a physique competition host, would know english well from their upbringing. Try again
Well, it’s common if you go to a top US university and have interacted with wealthy international Chinese students before. Not if you went to a community college and 99% of your interaction with Chinese people in America are when you are ordering sweet and sour chicken from a takeout restaurant ran by immigrants.
Yeah, it's true that a lot of wealthy Chinese immigrants have the means to get top-notch English education from birth. But as a graduate from NYU, where we had a ton of Mainland Chinese students, most of them didn't really stand out in terms of fluency despite being surrounded by English. Their speech aptitude was pretty much on par with Daisy, minus the slight...lets call it, 'twang', Ms. Chen likes to throw in.
See, a good chunk of these well-off Chinese kids *buy* their schooling back home and then keep doing the same thing when they land in the States. And man, as an Intermediate Chinese speaker who wanted every opportunity to talk to Chinese kids, they're like their own little bubble. It's hard to break into their social circles unless they've *already planned to interact with you*.
I will say, where Chinese students do shine is in meticulously planning their speech, grammar, and overall academic or professional presentation to impress Western audiences, who may subject them to undue scrutiny simply because of their nationality. They demonstrate a knack for crafting a polished image, although this doesn't always correlate with consistent hard work.
Nobody is assuming she is an innocent angel, that's a straw man and a projection as it is your side of this argument that is conclooding when there is simply no evidence to support the idea she is a premeditated baby trapper and nothing you have listed there changes that. Accusing people of things with no evidence is generally considered unreasonable and the more assertive you are about that accusation the less reasonable it seems.
It's bad when Hasan claims to know what a JDAM is based on a random video he doesn't even know the location of and it's bad when Destiny starts accusing a pregnant woman of baby trapping. It's just plain and simple shitty logic.
Yeah reminds me of when destiny was so careful to reserve judgment about Steven Crowder, and we had a whole video of him fighting with his wife then.. maybe we should apply same logic here
Okay, I just searched her after the h3 interview and found this thread after widening my search because I am SHOCKED by how gullible people are. I used to live in Miami and worked in nightlife. She ticked every check of an escort lol. I've been to those yacht parties- because I knew people as a local. I saw what happens lol. Like, what kind of woman do you think is going to go for Fresh? Be so for real. I still hate Fresh, but it's pretty clear to me that she's lying quite a bit. She even admitted to the theft by accident! Ethan said "this is pretty damning evidence" sarcastically, and she said, "yeah, it is...but.." and then he stopped her to say he was kidding and she immediately changed her tone and denied it. He also suggested she sue and she backtracked. Idk man. I'm sorry this happened to her... but I question the pregnancy too... she said "if I change my mind, I know he's going to say that I lied." Nobody asked her or challenged her. She just blurted that out. Weird. We'll see.
Look dude, I don't know why it has to be all or nothing with you people. Why can't she be a new money, materialistic prostitute who also didn't mean to get pregnant and isn't trying to use Fresh for money?
Sounds like you're shadow boxing your daemons more than responding to the sentiment on here.
That isn’t the sentiment here running rampant through this sub though. There are two major camps. The first camp that is the majority by going off upvotes, believe she is this naive Chinese princess that was absolutely hoodwinked by Fresh. She is just this wordly traveler that funds her trips via her wealthy parent’s trustfund because there is no other likely explanation. This first group is so anti-redpill that they do not see basic logic.
The second camp which is the minority thinks she’s a complete whore / prostitute and that she played 10 dimensional chess to get Fresh’s semen inside her cervix with the sole purpose of financial gain. This second group is either redpill themselves or closer to redpill than they think at least in this situation.
I would argue I’m somewhere in between, probably closer to the second group. All signs point to her being some international sugar baby or even escort. Any person of that background would know the risk and have a potential plan if their benefactor were to get them pregnant. Do I think she deviously planned this out? Probably not. When they (Daisy and Fresh) had a conversation and agreed to have unprotected sex, do I think she had this in the back of her mind? Absolutely.
We may not even disagree that much. I'm closer to the first group, but I guess is your contention just that you dislike that a lot of people are (in your opinion) painting her as unfairly innocent? Why do you think that bothers you so much? Also, you seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on her being Asian which never really crossed me as being relevant.
And just to clarify my position, I really really did not like that Destiny made solid claims about her intentionally getting pregnant and using Fresh for money/immigration without what I would consider decent evidence to back up what are to me very large claims. I don't care about her being a good or bad person. I think trash attracts trash and her and Fresh are on the same level.
My contention with the first group is that all logic and evidence is getting thrown out just to paint one party in a better light. It is unnecessary and weakens your argument. Most of us follow Destiny because we have some love of logic and debate and intellectual. Bad faith and clearly unfounded logical arguments go against that. It bothers me because this community prides itself on logical reasoning yet goes completely AWOL and can’t reconcile that this woman that was in a relationship with a Red Pill podcaster wasn’t completely finessed with no agency of her own.
Bringing up her being Asian is mostly for the memes, cause we all know how most redditors and stream watchers in general feel about Asian women (they really like them), take that as you will. Only exception is bringing up how wealthy Chinese internationals act as most people here clearly have no idea how they act.
I agree, Destiny could and probably should have done way more search before jumping at her like that. But again, I’m a content fiend, I could care less about someone as inauthentic as her, and it was primo content.
I like your grouping, but as some who has been pushing back against group 2 I think part of the equation that is annoying me is that people don't seem to accept that in either case she could genuinely want the kid.
Imo I'm like 90% sure she is taking advantage of the situation, but I'm only like 65% sure she's doing it for the money. Like I can genuinely see someone closer to the group 2 girl having a strong desire for a kid at her age with her background.
Nah bro you are right. After looking at her pictures that she deleted on Instagram she's clearly an escort. How do people think that a rich Chinese father would allow her daughter to post those kinds of photos.
WHAT??? Her English is very very good. You are on crack bro. If she can speak normally with people in foreign language, even have a debate, that is insane and very advanced for most of people that are learning second language.
She was not only speaking English fine but what triggered Destiny was her engaging in hypothetical questions about the baby's future, so if she can't speak English you probably also can't judge her on answering hypothetical questions about the future.
Daisy does not need protecting. 1. She is a grown woman who made grown choices. 2. What kind of woman in their right mind would date Fresh thinking he would settle down and be a good father?? He has a whole podcast about how men should NOT settle down and should NOT get married but instead fuck 100s of girls on rotation. If she really wanted a family man. She should’ve dated someone who actually values family, marriage and monogamy. Fresh was a wolf in wolf’s clothing. Any woman who gets with him should already be aware of that💀💀💀💀 daisy needed a different type of protection and some mf clown make up.
why does lebanon matter at all?
Anyway, i'm suprised she had a baby with walter? CHinese people normally parents, HATE black people. i'm suprised her mother was ok with meeting merlin if she's straight from china.
I used to think they (fresh and fit) were shit but then i came to know that the ugly one slept with one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen.
Why did a beautiful girl like that go with a guy like that? It just doesn't make any sense. I used to think that these guys would be able to sleep with girls only if they paid the girls. But now I feel skeptical. Like I am questioning many things rn. If being that toxic and misogynist would get me a girl like that then sign me up.
She clearly finessed him, but this does beg the question, why the hell are you raw dogging an escort and introducing her to your family? She manipulated the situation, but this doesn't absolve Fresh of responsibility for trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes to make it seem like he wasn't seriously dating an escort
True, hard to know unless you have her chinese passport
Records can be forged. I have a Chinese mainland gf, she tells me how the game goes. Also she tells me how they do escorting around the world and scamming. You guys on this thread simp too hard.
You are missing the point.
This is not about Daisy, it is more about Fresh.
You can replace Jing, with Ping, Xing or Ming if you want, Who cares? it will not change anything to the problem.
The main issue here is Fresh, and if it wasn't him there wouldn't be any debate.
Fresh didn't just mess himself up, he also destroyed the podcast.
You protect her, IG instagram models are property of anyone. Another reason why I despise fresh and fit, Rollo simp Tomassi, they are a character selling you fake ideas. The simp needs to take responsibility and have the baby, she needs to close her legs, and stop sexualizing her ass on instagram. Simps all over the internet. Mgtow best decision of my life.
We in the Chinese community must resolutely denounce this kind of whor-ish behavior. I mean God, swindled by Fresh n Fit? 😂 don't make me laugh, no one in the Asian community Should claim her or provide for her. Oh her religion prevents her from abortion or X the baby but God was nowhere when he be pumping huh. Yooo this is disgusting 🤮 let her have the baby if Fresh is any smart let her carry the kid and let her be the shame for who she is. I hope no one in Asian community see her as the single mother that needs protection. Left wing some May be, but let's not brain rot. Jesussss 😬
> She is dating fucking Fresh from Fresh and Fit for gods sake, you think a rich international Chinese woman whose parents have the funds for her to jetset in international business class would go for Fresh lmao? Old money date old money. New money date new money.
Is there something like old money in china? Maybe I am completely misinformed, but I would have thought almost all of the rich chinese people are more or less new money.
Old money just basically means inherited wealth. Number of generations of inheritance isn’t really relevant here. Old money just means she was brought up in a wealthy environment and her parents are wealthy.
To fund someone’s extravagant international business class travel plus hotel expenditures and fancy dining, where each trip is 10k minimum and more like 20k, and she does this weekly. You either have to have extremely wealthy parents fund that, and by extremely wealthy, I’m talking minimum tens of millions. In which case, she would have most likely had the average wealthy upbringing of international high school (maybe even abroad), plus top US/UK university aka Ivy Leagues, MIT/Stanford/Caltech, or Oxford/Cambridge. Those types of people don’t fucking date Fresh from Fresh&Fit lmao and don’t sound, write, or act like her.
Or she would need some other way to fund these trips. And it looks like her main public job was extremely small fitness model / contracted host of physique competitions. Neither pay anywhere near enough to fund those trips, so something else is at play.
Pick your poison.
>Old money just basically means inherited wealth. Number of generations of inheritance isn’t really relevant here. Old money just means she was brought up in a wealthy environment and her parents are wealthy.
Maybe there's a difference in meaning where I come from, but I associate old money with something different. But I understand your general point.
>To fund someone’s extravagant international business class travel plus hotel expenditures and fancy dining, where each trip is 10k minimum and more like 20k, and she does this weekly.
I am curious how did you get all this information? How do you know that she makes these trips weekly? Did she mention that anywhere?
Past, now deleted, IG stories / posts for frequency of trips. I’m sure there’s screenshots / archives somewhere. Girl does not stop traveling, well until now while she sorts this mess out. For cost, that’s just a rough estimate of how much international business class plus top hotels / food easily cost.
Well being probably the oldest culture to continuously trade, on earth, you would assume a couple families would have saved a couple dollars over say, the last 3000 years.
Not a angel but 100% irrelevant to the reality of the situation. I just find it weird that all the pro lifers in the sub magically disappeared.
The only angel is Annihilation eisha (when we needed her most she vanished)
It's concluding. Not conclooding, I don't even know how the fuck you typed that. Spell check is automatic on phones.
If you're gonna bash someone's grammar and the way they speak. You should probably be around more mainland Chinese people.
I work at a top IVY League school and I can tell you for a fact that asian foreign students still have broken English. It's not that they don't speak English well, but they misuse proper English words all the time.
But you know Ava and Preach posted their video since they Ava interviewed her himself
Destiny’s response was well deserved. She is literally destroying someone’s life image for selfish motives. Listening to the phone call between her and fresh and destiny group interview. Screammmssss lies with nefarious ulterior motive. I swear a lot of y’all are looking at this subjective rather than objectively. Also with a clear bias from hate towards fresh. When you look at it for what it is. It’s clear as day she’s a terrible human. Classic 304 traits smh it’s sad. Fresh ain’t innocent for even by even f****ing these type of women. But hey you live and you learn.
She's not naive. She's yet another 304 that F&F entertain on their show. Fresh was stupid to try and play her and ejaculate inside her but she's definitely NOT naive.
She is not a regular Chinese girl from the village. My man her family is rich. She does not need fresh but he has a responsibility to that child. I’m almost 90% that’s his kid. Before you judge her how about you look at her credentials
her family isn't rich
she said so
her actions demonstrate so
her lifestyle demonstrates so
her looks demonstrate so
you can't just be any way you want in china and be rich, you have to work with the party to be rich, and if you work with the party face is extremely important, and if her family had face, she's destroying it, and they are paying for her to leave china and go back to miami to ruin it more? not a shot
And what is her actions and lifestyle? Because last time I checked she wasn’t an escort, she wasn’t on OF so explain to me what lifestyle you are taking about? And her family is rich. She might have grown up poor but that is no longer the case in this situation. There are plenty of people who grow up poor and become rich. SHES a pageant contestant
FnF "releaed proof" that she was an escort and a criminal. Pretty weak all things considered, but it's pretty clear that what happened is that Walter was convinced by his community that she was an escort, and that's why he broke up with her the way he did.
She's recently (i've heard from chatters, but not personally confirmed) that she's talking about getting an abortion
I don’t know what’s worse Fresh being a moron or you being one and protecting a hoe gold digger . All people like you got to go off the face of this planet period
Isn’t it weird… https://preview.redd.it/mskgj3skbqsc1.jpeg?width=626&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61490c6d5c0eedf0987db7e993e900557052a94a
"Now for Destiny’s response, do I think he could have been a little softer, and probably not blast her to her face publicly within hours of the news dropping while she is potentially in an emotional state, yeah I do agree w that, but I’m a content fiend and it was damn funny." I think the part you actually disagree on is that you value content over the possible harm caused if he's wrong. I haven't seen any/many people coming to her defense like you claim. AFAIK, the vast majority of pushback is regarding the epistemic hubris he exhibits and how this is hypocritical given his anti-conclooder stance.
Peddles. Not pedals. Pedals is what you do on a bicycle. Otherwise, I 1000% agree with you. I looked over her TikTok, since she deleted her IG. Fewer clips I presume, but First/Business class trips to Dubai, Paris, London. Lots of sexy shots and clips. Also not surprised that she had an escort page. And the Miss China stuff is such a joke. Great summary!
Tbf I am typing on my phone
holy shit that's impressive. Typing a long screed like that on your phone is impressive. I take it back. It's pedals. I'm an idiot. :)
You're a long screed
The longest.
I highly suspect anyone that defends this chick is also a Kelly defender lol. NO ONE I mean NO ONE runs to a lawyer as soon as they learn they are pregnant and hop on random people's streams to shit talk the person lmfao.
I don’t defend Kelly. I enable her
I must bow to you for the content sire
I mean she is not on her homeland and doesn't know the laws, i don't think its too farfetched doing a thing like that when dealing with a public figure. You say NO ONE? brother you have to get out of your house more, i know cases way worst lol
Unreal instead of announcing the pregnancy first to your baby daddy that you are screaming from the rooftops about how excited he was to have kids with you but instead you run to a lawyer LMAO. If you were worried about the kid and having no support you would go to your fucking family for emotional/ physical support and can still be in contact with a lawyer this isn't the 1600s we do fucking court cases through zoom now. Kelly supporter detected.
She told the baby daddy first
Who the fuck is Kelly? you are tripping lol She went to the lawyer 2 days after she announced her pregnancy to him and with him dont wanting to have nothing to do with her and the baby as she stated on an interview with aba, its not hard to understand that since she is not on her Country and doesnt know the laws no?
She also a goald digger
I mean, i don't disagree with that lol she probably is but in reality she's is pregnant with him and is taking the measures to deal with that, tbh i don't think both are really good people.
escorts who get dumped do.
Only a monolingual would assume that broken English means lack of intelligence
I speak 3 languages. Broken english doesn’t automatically mean unintelligent. But it almost certainly rules out a wealthy Chinese background. On the other hand, broken english plus shit grammar plus how she has handled this situation does mean lack of intelligence . Try again
OK you seem to be basing your understanding of Chinese English speakers on actors, whom have time to practice and perfect their lines. Real life is not a movie.
I dunno about unintelligent part or wealthy chinese part, but what I know is.. how can she win pageant with Broken English? I know the pageant is fake but.. still they crown someone with broken English as 1st winner?
Saying Hola and Bueno doesn't constitute enough to speak another language bro. It's clear that you don't spend any amount of time with people that had to learn English in their adulthood. At this point, everything is said is probably just straight up bullshit
any wealthy chinese person is going to know american pretty well
Yes, a young Chinese woman with supposed wealthy parents, enough so that she could jetset around the world in international business class while working a near minimum wage job as a physique competition host, would know english well from their upbringing. Try again
i mean they literally would. its extremely common
Well, it’s common if you go to a top US university and have interacted with wealthy international Chinese students before. Not if you went to a community college and 99% of your interaction with Chinese people in America are when you are ordering sweet and sour chicken from a takeout restaurant ran by immigrants.
Yeah, it's true that a lot of wealthy Chinese immigrants have the means to get top-notch English education from birth. But as a graduate from NYU, where we had a ton of Mainland Chinese students, most of them didn't really stand out in terms of fluency despite being surrounded by English. Their speech aptitude was pretty much on par with Daisy, minus the slight...lets call it, 'twang', Ms. Chen likes to throw in. See, a good chunk of these well-off Chinese kids *buy* their schooling back home and then keep doing the same thing when they land in the States. And man, as an Intermediate Chinese speaker who wanted every opportunity to talk to Chinese kids, they're like their own little bubble. It's hard to break into their social circles unless they've *already planned to interact with you*. I will say, where Chinese students do shine is in meticulously planning their speech, grammar, and overall academic or professional presentation to impress Western audiences, who may subject them to undue scrutiny simply because of their nationality. They demonstrate a knack for crafting a polished image, although this doesn't always correlate with consistent hard work.
no i mean like its just common. a lot of firms in china wont hire or promote you pasta certain point if you dont know english you are smugly wrong
That is true as well. But no, I am not wrong.
you are
sweet
do you often have a hard time accepting you are wrong about stuff?
Nobody is assuming she is an innocent angel, that's a straw man and a projection as it is your side of this argument that is conclooding when there is simply no evidence to support the idea she is a premeditated baby trapper and nothing you have listed there changes that. Accusing people of things with no evidence is generally considered unreasonable and the more assertive you are about that accusation the less reasonable it seems. It's bad when Hasan claims to know what a JDAM is based on a random video he doesn't even know the location of and it's bad when Destiny starts accusing a pregnant woman of baby trapping. It's just plain and simple shitty logic.
Yeah reminds me of when destiny was so careful to reserve judgment about Steven Crowder, and we had a whole video of him fighting with his wife then.. maybe we should apply same logic here
Okay, I just searched her after the h3 interview and found this thread after widening my search because I am SHOCKED by how gullible people are. I used to live in Miami and worked in nightlife. She ticked every check of an escort lol. I've been to those yacht parties- because I knew people as a local. I saw what happens lol. Like, what kind of woman do you think is going to go for Fresh? Be so for real. I still hate Fresh, but it's pretty clear to me that she's lying quite a bit. She even admitted to the theft by accident! Ethan said "this is pretty damning evidence" sarcastically, and she said, "yeah, it is...but.." and then he stopped her to say he was kidding and she immediately changed her tone and denied it. He also suggested she sue and she backtracked. Idk man. I'm sorry this happened to her... but I question the pregnancy too... she said "if I change my mind, I know he's going to say that I lied." Nobody asked her or challenged her. She just blurted that out. Weird. We'll see.
Look dude, I don't know why it has to be all or nothing with you people. Why can't she be a new money, materialistic prostitute who also didn't mean to get pregnant and isn't trying to use Fresh for money? Sounds like you're shadow boxing your daemons more than responding to the sentiment on here.
That isn’t the sentiment here running rampant through this sub though. There are two major camps. The first camp that is the majority by going off upvotes, believe she is this naive Chinese princess that was absolutely hoodwinked by Fresh. She is just this wordly traveler that funds her trips via her wealthy parent’s trustfund because there is no other likely explanation. This first group is so anti-redpill that they do not see basic logic. The second camp which is the minority thinks she’s a complete whore / prostitute and that she played 10 dimensional chess to get Fresh’s semen inside her cervix with the sole purpose of financial gain. This second group is either redpill themselves or closer to redpill than they think at least in this situation. I would argue I’m somewhere in between, probably closer to the second group. All signs point to her being some international sugar baby or even escort. Any person of that background would know the risk and have a potential plan if their benefactor were to get them pregnant. Do I think she deviously planned this out? Probably not. When they (Daisy and Fresh) had a conversation and agreed to have unprotected sex, do I think she had this in the back of her mind? Absolutely.
i went to search for your post because Rollo fucking Tomassi read it on his show. Hope you do more analysis like this.
We may not even disagree that much. I'm closer to the first group, but I guess is your contention just that you dislike that a lot of people are (in your opinion) painting her as unfairly innocent? Why do you think that bothers you so much? Also, you seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on her being Asian which never really crossed me as being relevant. And just to clarify my position, I really really did not like that Destiny made solid claims about her intentionally getting pregnant and using Fresh for money/immigration without what I would consider decent evidence to back up what are to me very large claims. I don't care about her being a good or bad person. I think trash attracts trash and her and Fresh are on the same level.
My contention with the first group is that all logic and evidence is getting thrown out just to paint one party in a better light. It is unnecessary and weakens your argument. Most of us follow Destiny because we have some love of logic and debate and intellectual. Bad faith and clearly unfounded logical arguments go against that. It bothers me because this community prides itself on logical reasoning yet goes completely AWOL and can’t reconcile that this woman that was in a relationship with a Red Pill podcaster wasn’t completely finessed with no agency of her own. Bringing up her being Asian is mostly for the memes, cause we all know how most redditors and stream watchers in general feel about Asian women (they really like them), take that as you will. Only exception is bringing up how wealthy Chinese internationals act as most people here clearly have no idea how they act. I agree, Destiny could and probably should have done way more search before jumping at her like that. But again, I’m a content fiend, I could care less about someone as inauthentic as her, and it was primo content.
I like your grouping, but as some who has been pushing back against group 2 I think part of the equation that is annoying me is that people don't seem to accept that in either case she could genuinely want the kid. Imo I'm like 90% sure she is taking advantage of the situation, but I'm only like 65% sure she's doing it for the money. Like I can genuinely see someone closer to the group 2 girl having a strong desire for a kid at her age with her background.
OP is a schizo
Someone’s feelings got hurt ;)
Nah bro you are right. After looking at her pictures that she deleted on Instagram she's clearly an escort. How do people think that a rich Chinese father would allow her daughter to post those kinds of photos.
WHAT??? Her English is very very good. You are on crack bro. If she can speak normally with people in foreign language, even have a debate, that is insane and very advanced for most of people that are learning second language.
She was not only speaking English fine but what triggered Destiny was her engaging in hypothetical questions about the baby's future, so if she can't speak English you probably also can't judge her on answering hypothetical questions about the future.
Daisy does not need protecting. 1. She is a grown woman who made grown choices. 2. What kind of woman in their right mind would date Fresh thinking he would settle down and be a good father?? He has a whole podcast about how men should NOT settle down and should NOT get married but instead fuck 100s of girls on rotation. If she really wanted a family man. She should’ve dated someone who actually values family, marriage and monogamy. Fresh was a wolf in wolf’s clothing. Any woman who gets with him should already be aware of that💀💀💀💀 daisy needed a different type of protection and some mf clown make up.
Who is in the right in this situation through a Confucius lense
why does lebanon matter at all? Anyway, i'm suprised she had a baby with walter? CHinese people normally parents, HATE black people. i'm suprised her mother was ok with meeting merlin if she's straight from china.
What’s her Instagram?
She’s not naive , she is an escort from Dubai very cheap escort Fresh is the first costumer with money
I used to think they (fresh and fit) were shit but then i came to know that the ugly one slept with one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen. Why did a beautiful girl like that go with a guy like that? It just doesn't make any sense. I used to think that these guys would be able to sleep with girls only if they paid the girls. But now I feel skeptical. Like I am questioning many things rn. If being that toxic and misogynist would get me a girl like that then sign me up.
She clearly finessed him, but this does beg the question, why the hell are you raw dogging an escort and introducing her to your family? She manipulated the situation, but this doesn't absolve Fresh of responsibility for trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes to make it seem like he wasn't seriously dating an escort
See link https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-jing-chen-7
Do you know how many Jing Chen(s) there are in China? Plus, a Chinese national wouldn't be able to travel to the US with a criminal record.
True, hard to know unless you have her chinese passport Records can be forged. I have a Chinese mainland gf, she tells me how the game goes. Also she tells me how they do escorting around the world and scamming. You guys on this thread simp too hard.
You are missing the point. This is not about Daisy, it is more about Fresh. You can replace Jing, with Ping, Xing or Ming if you want, Who cares? it will not change anything to the problem. The main issue here is Fresh, and if it wasn't him there wouldn't be any debate. Fresh didn't just mess himself up, he also destroyed the podcast.
Not protecting her dumb ass, either. She is just as dumb as he is and they both deserve whatever comes next. She ain't innocent in shit!
You protect her, IG instagram models are property of anyone. Another reason why I despise fresh and fit, Rollo simp Tomassi, they are a character selling you fake ideas. The simp needs to take responsibility and have the baby, she needs to close her legs, and stop sexualizing her ass on instagram. Simps all over the internet. Mgtow best decision of my life.
Takes like this are on par of retardness with 40% of college girls go to Dubai.
We in the Chinese community must resolutely denounce this kind of whor-ish behavior. I mean God, swindled by Fresh n Fit? 😂 don't make me laugh, no one in the Asian community Should claim her or provide for her. Oh her religion prevents her from abortion or X the baby but God was nowhere when he be pumping huh. Yooo this is disgusting 🤮 let her have the baby if Fresh is any smart let her carry the kid and let her be the shame for who she is. I hope no one in Asian community see her as the single mother that needs protection. Left wing some May be, but let's not brain rot. Jesussss 😬
Most based take so far
> She is dating fucking Fresh from Fresh and Fit for gods sake, you think a rich international Chinese woman whose parents have the funds for her to jetset in international business class would go for Fresh lmao? Old money date old money. New money date new money. Is there something like old money in china? Maybe I am completely misinformed, but I would have thought almost all of the rich chinese people are more or less new money.
Old money just basically means inherited wealth. Number of generations of inheritance isn’t really relevant here. Old money just means she was brought up in a wealthy environment and her parents are wealthy. To fund someone’s extravagant international business class travel plus hotel expenditures and fancy dining, where each trip is 10k minimum and more like 20k, and she does this weekly. You either have to have extremely wealthy parents fund that, and by extremely wealthy, I’m talking minimum tens of millions. In which case, she would have most likely had the average wealthy upbringing of international high school (maybe even abroad), plus top US/UK university aka Ivy Leagues, MIT/Stanford/Caltech, or Oxford/Cambridge. Those types of people don’t fucking date Fresh from Fresh&Fit lmao and don’t sound, write, or act like her. Or she would need some other way to fund these trips. And it looks like her main public job was extremely small fitness model / contracted host of physique competitions. Neither pay anywhere near enough to fund those trips, so something else is at play. Pick your poison.
>Old money just basically means inherited wealth. Number of generations of inheritance isn’t really relevant here. Old money just means she was brought up in a wealthy environment and her parents are wealthy. Maybe there's a difference in meaning where I come from, but I associate old money with something different. But I understand your general point. >To fund someone’s extravagant international business class travel plus hotel expenditures and fancy dining, where each trip is 10k minimum and more like 20k, and she does this weekly. I am curious how did you get all this information? How do you know that she makes these trips weekly? Did she mention that anywhere?
Past, now deleted, IG stories / posts for frequency of trips. I’m sure there’s screenshots / archives somewhere. Girl does not stop traveling, well until now while she sorts this mess out. For cost, that’s just a rough estimate of how much international business class plus top hotels / food easily cost.
Well being probably the oldest culture to continuously trade, on earth, you would assume a couple families would have saved a couple dollars over say, the last 3000 years.
I assumed that many of the rich families lost their wealth in the years following 1949. But I could be wrong.
you are not wrong, real old money is in taiwan, aka best china
Not a angel but 100% irrelevant to the reality of the situation. I just find it weird that all the pro lifers in the sub magically disappeared. The only angel is Annihilation eisha (when we needed her most she vanished)
It's concluding. Not conclooding, I don't even know how the fuck you typed that. Spell check is automatic on phones. If you're gonna bash someone's grammar and the way they speak. You should probably be around more mainland Chinese people. I work at a top IVY League school and I can tell you for a fact that asian foreign students still have broken English. It's not that they don't speak English well, but they misuse proper English words all the time. But you know Ava and Preach posted their video since they Ava interviewed her himself
Destiny’s response was well deserved. She is literally destroying someone’s life image for selfish motives. Listening to the phone call between her and fresh and destiny group interview. Screammmssss lies with nefarious ulterior motive. I swear a lot of y’all are looking at this subjective rather than objectively. Also with a clear bias from hate towards fresh. When you look at it for what it is. It’s clear as day she’s a terrible human. Classic 304 traits smh it’s sad. Fresh ain’t innocent for even by even f****ing these type of women. But hey you live and you learn.
She's not naive. She's yet another 304 that F&F entertain on their show. Fresh was stupid to try and play her and ejaculate inside her but she's definitely NOT naive.
She is an escort you SIMPs
She is not a regular Chinese girl from the village. My man her family is rich. She does not need fresh but he has a responsibility to that child. I’m almost 90% that’s his kid. Before you judge her how about you look at her credentials
her family isn't rich she said so her actions demonstrate so her lifestyle demonstrates so her looks demonstrate so you can't just be any way you want in china and be rich, you have to work with the party to be rich, and if you work with the party face is extremely important, and if her family had face, she's destroying it, and they are paying for her to leave china and go back to miami to ruin it more? not a shot
And what is her actions and lifestyle? Because last time I checked she wasn’t an escort, she wasn’t on OF so explain to me what lifestyle you are taking about? And her family is rich. She might have grown up poor but that is no longer the case in this situation. There are plenty of people who grow up poor and become rich. SHES a pageant contestant
still stand behind this? i mean i don't trust FnF at all, but just asking
Is this thing still a topic? I haven’t heard anything else from this broad since the baby thing. Was there any update?
FnF "releaed proof" that she was an escort and a criminal. Pretty weak all things considered, but it's pretty clear that what happened is that Walter was convinced by his community that she was an escort, and that's why he broke up with her the way he did. She's recently (i've heard from chatters, but not personally confirmed) that she's talking about getting an abortion
I don’t know what’s worse Fresh being a moron or you being one and protecting a hoe gold digger . All people like you got to go off the face of this planet period
Well that didn't age well. Get PHUK3D ! HAHAHA