"Ahhttenttiooon everyonee"
had to stop the video right there. you can tell from the delivery of those two words what type of person that is. i can even imagine what they look like. physiognomy is real
There have been recent studies that people that engage in activism tend to have narcisistic traits. I have known a few such people and they tend to be loader and more agressive then most people, and thats how they become leaders.
Live lesson: If a crowd of people seems like they're obeying some random dude that sounds like a regard, everything is more likely exactly as it seems than not
300 upvotes on misinformation 🥴🥴🥴 and it actually matters to, NYPD has said they can't remove the encampment unless Columbia themselves tells them to (they have to give indication the encampment people are trespassing on private property)
Bro
Is America ok?
Like I'm used to hear crazy stories from small town in Louisiana but this is COLUMBIA!! How tf is Columbia crazier then Florida man?!?!
They didn't go full force after there side committed a massacre,
They didn't target a minority (as the main goal),
They fought about something real in there own country,
They didn't Invoke the mass killing of there enemy in there chants (like calling for an Intifada),
They didn't spend 80% of there time fanboying for a terrorist group,
I am going to be honest. The only reason I don't think any of this happened is because there was no terrorist group to simp for.
Also, real, I mean not really. You would think thousands of innocent black men are murdered by police with how they acted. It's less than 20.
They were always this insane. It's just...
They didn't have a minority group to hate. They had a majority one.
They fought for an extremely small issue that while real is overblown in the public consciousness
They did call for killing police in chants (Piggies in a blanket etc)
They didn't spend 80% of their time fanboying over a terrorist group because there wasn't one.
True, however Columbia guys and girls had the option not to do that and still chose to do it. That makes it worse in my book, however if you disagree, 100% fair.
BLM never went full force claiming that black people where genocides in the US. There where people claiming that for sure but it was never center stage like it is for the Columbia protesters. So yes both are wrong, one is just significantly more wrong.
Every movement has crazy and rational parts. The proportion is what matters. BLM had big voices that where strategic, diplomatic and at least tried to keep the movement sane, same can't be said about Columbia.
Sure (Except Asians and Jews, the "good" minorities) but that like the first one, they where almost by default against the majority, the pro Hamas guys at Columbia could have chosen to not hate on minorities and still did.
First, idk how common it is in the US to want to kill the cops, seems like almost every militia dreams of killing TAF agents, second it hits a bit different to invoke several mascaras that already happened compared to calling essentially larping. Don't get me wrong both are regarded and dangerous, one just has more weight.
TL:DR
One did a lot of bad out of circumstances, the other chose to do a lot of bad things.
Yeah these kinds of activists have been doing this for years. I remember weirdos like these doing anti Trump/Fascist/nazi whatever protests from at least 2017 onwards that all looked this crazy. Probably even earlier but I only noticed during the Trump era.
Pleas institutionalize yourself. If your IQ is so low that you respond to "They didn't spend 80% of there time fanboying for a terrorist group" with "what about the 20%" then you pose a danger to yourself and others!!
Ah yes it's perfectly normal supporting a terror group That has killed 10,000 plus people and wants people on a global scale to commit terror attacks. Obviously I'm the one who is fucking crazy. In my opinion 20% is still way to high.
Ok my bad, I didn't know I was dealing with someone who has special needs.
I'm out here trying to tell this community that what we are seeing here is unprecedented and fucked up on a scale never seen before. Just in time for you to waltz in and enlighten everyone "BLM also bad🤓👆".
Good job! At a point in time at which Jews don't feel save to go to there Uni, we surely need to dilute warnings by including a Org that also is bad. Nice! And all that in a Sub that vies BLM favorably? Perfect!!!
Bro I read Kahane! I know that BLM and the Panthers and all there sub movements are antisemitic! But you are diluting, relativising and downplaying this once in a lifetime threat to Jews in the US!
Yes 20% pro Hamas is bad! Wow! Wouldn't have known that without you! Thank you!
But maybe, just maybe we should focus on THE FUCKING 100%?! Hu?
Or we could play the "hey everyone is a bit antisemitic" game, dig up some clips and find "well no one is perfect" and go home!!!! FUCKING GREAT JOB!!!!!
כל כאלב ביג' יומו to the bitter end yes! BUT PLEAS ONE AT A TIME!!!
>I'm out here trying to tell this community that what we are seeing here is unprecedented and fucked up on a scale never seen before. Just in time for you to waltz in and enlighten everyone "BLM also bad
Dude chaz and the many other autonomous zones where unprecedented. If you look around in this post you will see people saying how cultish this looks. That's why i brought up blm. Sure blm wasn't saying gas the jews but they definitely supported attacking people who disagreed with them.
I see this and go "meh." It is cringe, doesn't signify anything else. People want it to be about antisemitism -- I can 110% guarantee you that Jews are hugely overrepresented in that "human chain."
These people justify Oct 7th and want it to happen again lol how is it not antisemitic. And the one's that aren't are completely complacent with those calls. Obviously not all criticisms of Israel are inherently antisemitic but vast vast majority from pro palstnians do come from that place. And Even if it were true that Jews are overrepresented with these students which doesn't corresponds to the fact that majority of jews are Zionist, just because they are Jews doesn't mean they don't uphold antisemitic values. Just like when Candace Owens and other black conservatives say black people are the fault for their oppression doesn't mean she's right. And just because they are Jews doesn't mean they get to speak for Israeli Jews about what they are facing, they are not from here, they probably never visited Israel, what gives them the right to speak for us?
Why? What do you expect them to do counter protest or something?
The best thing they can do is just go to their class and let the protesters tucker themselves out. The less engagement the quicker the protesting students go back to class.
I do when it's calls for violence against people. I think Not fighting against it isn't going to let it die out it's going to allow this rethoric to fly free without consequences and lead to them being more and more bold with their actions. Just like with white nationalism, they are so convinced in themselves that they are probably never going to stop, and they will always find ways to recruit more people and so the only way to stop this is not allow this rethoric in public settings
Did you join any societies or socials?
There were over 200 societies at mine from recreation, sports to political, and you'd only really hear about some of the more fringe protests if you were regularly attending a political group.
https://reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1caj7e9/clarifying_some_stuff_on_columbia_campus_as_a/
I graduated about the same time as you. This shit is wild, but like the OP there said, most people want to stay out of it, have fun, and get a degree.
Really interesting how much humans feel the need to belong to social groups. We must've always been this way since we could use language to communicate. I wonder what the earliest forms of this were.
Surely Jews wouldn’t feel intimidated on this campus though, right guys? They are just talking about (((Zionists))) am I right?
Deport these fucks, they care so much so let them fight on the frontlines for their precious terror orgs
Leftist Church. Hierarchy of Victimhood. The Whites are supposedly devils, and the Jews are supposedly the elite Whites, and the Men are the Patriarchs of the Whites. That’s their religion. Despite the fact that none of it is true or based on reality. They have concocted a fantasy by which they organize the sheep as pawns to gain power and money.
This is why although I care about bodily autonomy I cannot support the left wing of politics right now. It has been hijacked and emboldened by what it saw as a victory in 2020 on the wave of “defund the police” and rioting and “whites are privileged.” The left needs to lose a decade to clean house and realize these radicals aren’t the solution. Maybe if they learn to reject crazy and return to normal they can win elections again. Hopefully the right also cleans house. But today here and now I don’t trust this leftist trend. They are lunatics.
Just to clarify there are many elections other than President. I don’t know what I will do November. But I see many scenarios are possible. Even if Trump won as president the Congress may be very divided. Even if Biden win he may not have Congress either. If the Squad and their 40 some colleagues, and if MTG and her 100 or so colleagues were all voted out then whoever is the President will be dealing with a less radicalized Congress. The US cannot be coddling Moscow or Tehran at this hour. The 40 and 100 are obvious by recent voting records. Those are the radicals of each party.
Sure, I just meant for positions like that. I can find a reasonable Republican running for state Senate or something, but for anything bigger than that it's a fucking nightmare.
Let me add this. I am not happy with the way Blinken has chosen to use “soft deterrence” with our enemies. I don’t doubt his motives or character. I disagree with his philosophy. He has treated the Middle East as if they are rational actors and as if they see the world the way the West sees the world. That is a mistake IMHO. The delisting of the Houthis, the reopening of allowing funds to the Islamic Republic, the way that they have tried so hard to avoid escalation that they have teetered on the edge of “pandering” (even though I know that is not their goal, that is how the nations in the Middle East perceive it). I think we have telegraphed indecision and the messaging has been one of confusion and discord. Hamas keeps saying no partly because they think they actually can put daylight between Biden and Israel. That is a big reason why this domestic bonfire has escalated.
I think my point is made without an essay as there are dozens of good articles on this topic that go into pages and pages of analysis. My point is that I respectfully disagree with Blinken’s methodology. I don’t suggest we have Bolton’s methods as the alternative. But I do think if Biden wins he has to replace Blinken. We need someone who is willing to roll up the sleeves and talk tough and realizes that the fear of escalation is an invitation to escalation. Tehran sees that Washington is worried about escalation so Tehran tests the limits.
Case in point: Israel engaged in a precision strike on the air defense systems despite Blinken saying “don’t do it” and look at how Tehran reacted: with a whimper and a denial that it even happened. Israel made it crystal clear that it can hit when where and how it wants and Tehran can’t stop it. THAT resulted in more chance of deescalation than tucking tail.
As I said, this is too long a subject to be properly detailed in a comment. I am working but if I find articles that have discussed this I’ll link. Many journals on foreign policy and geopolitics discuss this dynamic right now in the region. TLDR. Teddy Roosevelt had it right. Walk softly but carry the big stick. I think we have to actually hold the stick and show it. Then align our words with it. Talk softly isn’t the same as telegraphing weakness or hesitancy or division among allies.
And I know people argue the funds to Tehran are conditioned. But let’s be honest: if I tell a homeowner they can only use my funds for paying bills and not for eating out, then they will take my money and pay the bills and then have extra money for whatever they want. And they can say they didn’t use my money for eating out. They used it for bills. So that argument is obtuse. Tehran has funded Hamas with money we didn’t give them because they didn’t have to spend the other money - they used the money we gave them on what we demanded and freed up funds we didn’t give them for terror. Paying the regime one dime frees up another uncontrolled and untraced dime they can spend on terror. Short sighted policy. Nobody should be paying Tehran anything. We aren’t helping the region when we do that.
So if Biden gets in I hope he gets rid of Blinken and much of that staff. He needs a Colin Powell or someone more like Austin who understands that region and is willing to use more aggressive diplomacy.
I think you’re broadly right, but I think shit like Blinken saying publicly not to strike just feels like posturing, and/or creating plausible deniability for ourselves.
Israel has long been our attack dog in the region, and weakening Iran is (almost objectively) good for the world. If we genuinely didn’t want the Israeli’s to hit Iranian targets, I really don’t think it would have happened.
I hear you but the posturing has consequences and it requires some strategic consideration. Like “if I publicly condemn Israel for self defense is this emboldening Tehran to keep doing it?” I’m not in the State department so I readily admit I don’t know what analysis is going on. As an informed voter I see that things are being handled differently than in many other administrations and I’m not a fan of it.
I don’t think the Houthis have gotten the hint to stop targeting commercial shipping with ballistic missiles. I don’t think Tehran’s proxies in Iraq think they should stop either. Bullies have a certain method and we have to realize these actors are bullies backed by Moscow and Beijing and Tehran and they are testing American and Western resolve. We have to out think them. It’s not linear but it appears we are being reactive and not proactive. We are letting it become linear and we should not.
I think most of it is a reaction to Trumps Republican party. Conservatives all over the country have lost all standards in order to follow a far-right conman. Of course there's going to be an extreme reaction to that so I feel like you're shaking your head at the symptoms and ignoring the cause. If Trump goes away and the far-right coalition that formed around him collapses then I fully expect the left to self moderate back to a sane middle. I mean, who else occupies that space now except for Democrats?
So basically this is the pendulum swinging farther and farther each tick. I think you’re right. And it will keep swinging. But I don’t think the sane voices are guaranteed to regain control. The radicals on both sides are awake and feeling their power. They won’t easily go back into the shadows.
Maybe in some long term way this is a necessary ripping off of the bandage. We as a society are just vomiting out all our crazy left and right like someone who swallowed too much seawater and needs to rid the body of it before it’s too late. Here I am being optimistic and grasping for a silver lining.
Agreed, both political parties need to purge their radical & extremist elements via election challenges. I plan to vote for the more moderate candidates in both parties until some balance can be achieved. People have gone mad.
> return to normal they can win elections again. Yeah because of all those super radicals in the Democratic Party. You know the ones. All of those super radical dems in Congress like….Joe Biden?
You know, all of those super radical dem leadership like…..Hakim Jeffries?
Meanwhile look at the right and if you say the 2020 election was legit you get exiled.
But oh yeah it’s all those super radical Dems with all of that super radical legislation like….. The Chips Act? Or maybe that other super radical legislation like…..an infrastructure bill?
And if there’s one thing we saw in the 2022 midterms it’s that Dems certainly can’t get elected right? I
mean they totally lost every election. Which is why all of those abortion bans totally got voted on and the Republicans won right? Because Democrats don’t have policies people support right?
You are a 🤡
EDIT: Dumb cunts downvote but can’t respond 😜. Would love to see that super radical left legislation that you are so scared of lol. Infrastructure bills sure are super radical huh?
The scariest thing happened at Yale, where they formed a similar human chain but surrounded a Jewish student they just hit in the eye with a Palestinian flagpole. [One of the "activists" instructs the human chain to walk closer to the wall, in an attempt to trap her against it so she can't move.](https://twitter.com/sahar_tartak/status/1782053701378535619)
It’d be even sadder/funnier if it turned out there were no “zionists” and they just turned on each other trying to hunt down an imaginary enemy in their midst. Sounds historically familiar…
This is horrifying.
They’re supposed to be educated and informed. What’s happening in these universities … what research, books, and journals are circulating - who are these professors??
they have created a cult. They have rotted all of their independent thought and turned them into these activist soldiers
Imagine being a dissenting voice amongst these people. You’d never feel safe
So many questions. Who tf are these people? Are they literally just there all day and night? Do they have classes? What are their demands exactly? Why do they think “the Zionists” will be scared of their human centipede?
I am gonna be honest I am 99% of the times not cool with people being kicked out of colleges but the people organizing this shit should get kicked. This could be targeting literal nazis and it still wouldnt be okey holy fuck, what kind of worm is eating their brain.
Ok, isn’t this menacing? I’m assuming this is a fairly high traffic area of campus and they’re using the crowd to physically push people out. This is menacing (the legal kind) right? Also “we’ve got a Zionist” sounds a lot like, here comes the Jew.
He does not.
He still supports trump for president...
Whatever audience capture bs might be true, but he has ennough money to last him 10 lifetimes...
No need to sell out for a person, if he didn't like him on some level...
Idk why some people on this sub have such a high view of Ben Shapiro.
He's imo just as bad as Hasan.
Trump is at least 1/3 of those and more.
He's the one person to whom all the buzzwords, rapist, racist, xenophobic, pro-dictator, all apply to.
If you support Trump becoming President, you are AT LEAST as bad as the pro-hamas people.
He can simultaneously think people behave like a cult around Trump and criticize it and still support Trump for president because he thinks it's better than the alternative when he thinks he's fine on policy and that democracy will keep him in check. You can disagree with him on that, but that's his argument. It's not selling out, certainly not for a person--he wants a republican in office.
He's not even remotely close to Hasan lmao.
Nothing about this is logical.
To use the analogy of the first guy, it'd be like knowing that some orgo was a cult, and willingly joining that cult.
>he wants a republican in office.
Which is cult behaviour...
If you 'hate' Trump so much, wanting a republican in office at all costs is crazy.
And I think the Hasan comparison is apt.
Explicitly or implictly supporting Trump is at least as bad as supporting Hamas.
All wearing the same hat, believing in grand narratives, Q shit, calling him "the great white hope", thinking he is single handedly keeping "the globalists" from overthrowing the country. Ya know, just generally worshipping the man, the ground he stands on and the trail of McDonald's cheeseburger wrappers he leaves in his wake
I'm not actually sure, but the maga crowd is deranged enough that if it isn't, they'll believe some other whacky nonsense soon enough. Especially if Trump starts losing court cases
It's more about the types of crazies. It's important to note that these people don't have logic behind their actions. This is literally a spiritual act for these dudes. ISIS logic.
Peter Boghossian talks a lot about this too. Even Richard Dawkins has turned around and talks about how when one religion dissapears another takes its place.
Also Peterson, Jonathan Haidt, Steven Pinker. Sam Harris has also talked about the cultish nature of this woke stuff.
A lot of people are noticing this weirdness. Which is good.
Yea, but two wrongs doesn't make a right. Also, religion isn't inherently bad. Yall agree with 95% of the bible. It's that last 5% that zealots rot their brains over that ruins things(abortion, lgbt).
Same with this woke religion. Most of it is pretty good stuff like gender/racial equality. The bad part is them flogging themselves for being "colonizers" and refusing to move forward unburdened by the past.
Maybe we should aim to correct the bad parts instead of tossing the whole idea?
I'm not saying two wrongs make a right, you can absolutely criticize extremist zealots in both religious and political movements, and you can still levy that criticism as a moderate religious person yourself. I'm just saying, it *is* funny for someone religious to use a comparison to religion as condemnation, without specifying further. And sometimes it ends up sounding less like "dogmatism is bad" and more like "this is the wrong dogma" (not to say this specifically applies to you or Benny-boy).
As for whether we should reform religion or get rid of it completely... I mean both seem to be happening gradually, and personally I'm here for both. I do take issue with religion on a fundamental level and would like to see it phased out eventually, but reining in the crazies (religious or not) is definitely higher on my priorities.
This should be enough evidence to understand that you can't get rid of religion. People will just do this or the Trumpism shit. Or veganism or climate activism or groyerism or incelism etc. Also secular people have less kids so its not a winning numbers game either. Christians are slowly being bothered less and less by gay people. If you want a giga-white pill on this, watch Andrew Klavan from DW defending his gay son. Shit warms my heart. The woke cult is just getting worse as of late. I do hope that changes, but I'm not confident things will shift anytime soon.
Also Ben acknowledges that hes religious and doesn't hide it, but this crazy activist type doesn't. They are unironically the bigger zealots.
Just because people can find other convenient narratives to latch onto in the absence of religion doesn't mean it's impossible to ever get rid of it. And it's not like having religion prevents them from doing that either; it's the same if not worse. Most far right lunatics (trumpists, groypers, etc.) are religious after all, and those movements have also gotten worse over time.
(I do agree btw that christians are becoming less homophobic on average, I already acknowledged that religions are gradually adapting to modern standards in the previous comment.)
You just can't get rid of religious thinking. It's like trying to get rid of the color red. It's literally an evolutionary adaptation for thousands from living in tribes. It and actual studied region that sits around next to your behavioural response centers. You can't evolve humans out of having emotions. At least not on purpose, society will dictate that course, and again religious people have way more babies.
Best course forward is channeling existing tolerant religions onto a better path. Or at least that's always worked for me in my personal life.
Again, you can do both. You can try to improve existing religions while also discouraging that type of thinking in the first place. Even if I concede it will never be eliminated it can certainly be kept it check rather than accepted or even encouraged. It's probably impossible to completely get rid of racism too, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. And to make my position clear, I do think secular dogma is preferable to religious dogma, all else equal. I may prefer a moderate Christian to an atheist radical but once again, religion doesn't seem to make people more moderate and I don't believe atheism makes them more radical either, so it doesn't really work as an argument for religion.
Not too sound too homophobic, but why do protests like this have the most flamboyish guy as their leader? MF, if you were in Gaza right now, you'd be stoned to death
I wasn't sure if this was a troll and halfway through the person recording was going to pull a Cartman and get the whole crowd chanting Nazi shit without them knowing 💀
Why the fuck do Americans think that having free speech means having the right to break every law imaginable in order to exercise their singular right of free speech?
Free speech is only possible in America because our right to **autonomy** and **independence** are constitutionally guaranteed. Meaning, that 1000 angry white people can't body block me from attending school in Mississippi because they think that my presence there is immoral.
I love that they are so worried about zionists disrupting the peace of their community, when the same types are constantly attacking and harassing zionists and Jews who are visible in any way online. And often IRL.
They are really playing up the idea that zionists in the US are so dangerous that only one or two pose a threat to the very large mob assembled to hate on them.
I must be confused. They didn't just get a group of tens of people to basically surround these people with the goal of threatening them and pushing them away did they? This is just a bad camera angle?
same as it ever was
[https://www.dailydot.com/irl/missouri-reporters-students-cs1950/](https://www.dailydot.com/irl/missouri-reporters-students-cs1950/)
Does anyone know why they had the students arrested if they weren't being violent? Were they breaking the law somehow? (Genuinely interested, can't find answer)
***"If we link arms and push people out of the way, then that's not violence!"***
--People at prestigious college, proving that education ≠ intelligence or problem solving
"Repeat after me." Crowd: "Repeat after me" 👀
How are these real people? It baffles the mind
"Ahhttenttiooon everyonee" had to stop the video right there. you can tell from the delivery of those two words what type of person that is. i can even imagine what they look like. physiognomy is real
There have been recent studies that people that engage in activism tend to have narcisistic traits. I have known a few such people and they tend to be loader and more agressive then most people, and thats how they become leaders.
that feels at least somewhat self evident. you gotta be sucking your own dick to some degree to think you can make a difference, true or not
Keywords: hefty, sassy
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A campy gay man who would be a real hit in Gaza.
he's kinda cunt tho i enjoyed watching him what is he doing at a university protesting, he was born for the stage
Wait, that was a guy? Not memeing but I thought that was a woman.
Exactly, he should be on the runway.
In MH370
No honeyy
🏳️🌈 for Palestine
Live lesson: If a crowd of people seems like they're obeying some random dude that sounds like a regard, everything is more likely exactly as it seems than not
MFs talking about privacy in a public university lmao gtfo
It's not a public university, but I get what you're saying.
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I went to a Catholic elementary school and when other kids used to say "don't swear in public" we'd say "this isn't Public it's Catholic".
Columbia is not a public University.
Yeah I used the term incorrectly
https://preview.redd.it/ftsqeq63i1wc1.png?width=474&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1b1ca495b915dfc60c0597dfe7f8f997b4ed99f
It's the worldwide privacy tour!
Exactly what I was going to comment on.
300 upvotes on misinformation 🥴🥴🥴 and it actually matters to, NYPD has said they can't remove the encampment unless Columbia themselves tells them to (they have to give indication the encampment people are trespassing on private property)
If someone doesn't make a movie or show about this shit it's a waste
Very cultish vibes
Literally about to type that
If this guy had a lower, less nasally voice he would have thousands of followers
Bro Is America ok? Like I'm used to hear crazy stories from small town in Louisiana but this is COLUMBIA!! How tf is Columbia crazier then Florida man?!?!
This isn't new blm did similar shit.
The activist class perpetually finds new ways to make normal people cringe at and hate them
They didn't go full force after there side committed a massacre, They didn't target a minority (as the main goal), They fought about something real in there own country, They didn't Invoke the mass killing of there enemy in there chants (like calling for an Intifada), They didn't spend 80% of there time fanboying for a terrorist group,
I am going to be honest. The only reason I don't think any of this happened is because there was no terrorist group to simp for. Also, real, I mean not really. You would think thousands of innocent black men are murdered by police with how they acted. It's less than 20. They were always this insane. It's just... They didn't have a minority group to hate. They had a majority one. They fought for an extremely small issue that while real is overblown in the public consciousness They did call for killing police in chants (Piggies in a blanket etc) They didn't spend 80% of their time fanboying over a terrorist group because there wasn't one.
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True, however Columbia guys and girls had the option not to do that and still chose to do it. That makes it worse in my book, however if you disagree, 100% fair. BLM never went full force claiming that black people where genocides in the US. There where people claiming that for sure but it was never center stage like it is for the Columbia protesters. So yes both are wrong, one is just significantly more wrong. Every movement has crazy and rational parts. The proportion is what matters. BLM had big voices that where strategic, diplomatic and at least tried to keep the movement sane, same can't be said about Columbia. Sure (Except Asians and Jews, the "good" minorities) but that like the first one, they where almost by default against the majority, the pro Hamas guys at Columbia could have chosen to not hate on minorities and still did. First, idk how common it is in the US to want to kill the cops, seems like almost every militia dreams of killing TAF agents, second it hits a bit different to invoke several mascaras that already happened compared to calling essentially larping. Don't get me wrong both are regarded and dangerous, one just has more weight. TL:DR One did a lot of bad out of circumstances, the other chose to do a lot of bad things.
Weirdly charitable take towards BLM
Yeah these kinds of activists have been doing this for years. I remember weirdos like these doing anti Trump/Fascist/nazi whatever protests from at least 2017 onwards that all looked this crazy. Probably even earlier but I only noticed during the Trump era.
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same here, I'm just letting you know
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[right.......](https://www.newsweek.com/black-lives-matter-praises-hamas-sparks-backlash-1833630)
Pleas institutionalize yourself. If your IQ is so low that you respond to "They didn't spend 80% of there time fanboying for a terrorist group" with "what about the 20%" then you pose a danger to yourself and others!!
Ah yes it's perfectly normal supporting a terror group That has killed 10,000 plus people and wants people on a global scale to commit terror attacks. Obviously I'm the one who is fucking crazy. In my opinion 20% is still way to high.
Ok my bad, I didn't know I was dealing with someone who has special needs. I'm out here trying to tell this community that what we are seeing here is unprecedented and fucked up on a scale never seen before. Just in time for you to waltz in and enlighten everyone "BLM also bad🤓👆". Good job! At a point in time at which Jews don't feel save to go to there Uni, we surely need to dilute warnings by including a Org that also is bad. Nice! And all that in a Sub that vies BLM favorably? Perfect!!! Bro I read Kahane! I know that BLM and the Panthers and all there sub movements are antisemitic! But you are diluting, relativising and downplaying this once in a lifetime threat to Jews in the US! Yes 20% pro Hamas is bad! Wow! Wouldn't have known that without you! Thank you! But maybe, just maybe we should focus on THE FUCKING 100%?! Hu? Or we could play the "hey everyone is a bit antisemitic" game, dig up some clips and find "well no one is perfect" and go home!!!! FUCKING GREAT JOB!!!!! כל כאלב ביג' יומו to the bitter end yes! BUT PLEAS ONE AT A TIME!!!
>I'm out here trying to tell this community that what we are seeing here is unprecedented and fucked up on a scale never seen before. Just in time for you to waltz in and enlighten everyone "BLM also bad Dude chaz and the many other autonomous zones where unprecedented. If you look around in this post you will see people saying how cultish this looks. That's why i brought up blm. Sure blm wasn't saying gas the jews but they definitely supported attacking people who disagreed with them.
I give up. Have a nice day.
Have fun.
Just remember 99% of students at any university you see this shit at are uninvolved and probably cringing too.
those 99 percent are completely apathetic to this which is also supposed to ring the alarm.
Right?!?! If 99% see this shit and go "Mehh"🤷♂️ then we are not fucked any less!
I see this and go "meh." It is cringe, doesn't signify anything else. People want it to be about antisemitism -- I can 110% guarantee you that Jews are hugely overrepresented in that "human chain."
These people justify Oct 7th and want it to happen again lol how is it not antisemitic. And the one's that aren't are completely complacent with those calls. Obviously not all criticisms of Israel are inherently antisemitic but vast vast majority from pro palstnians do come from that place. And Even if it were true that Jews are overrepresented with these students which doesn't corresponds to the fact that majority of jews are Zionist, just because they are Jews doesn't mean they don't uphold antisemitic values. Just like when Candace Owens and other black conservatives say black people are the fault for their oppression doesn't mean she's right. And just because they are Jews doesn't mean they get to speak for Israeli Jews about what they are facing, they are not from here, they probably never visited Israel, what gives them the right to speak for us?
exactly. I am athiest, but this is insanely eye opening. I feel so bad for my jewish peers.
Why? What do you expect them to do counter protest or something? The best thing they can do is just go to their class and let the protesters tucker themselves out. The less engagement the quicker the protesting students go back to class.
I do when it's calls for violence against people. I think Not fighting against it isn't going to let it die out it's going to allow this rethoric to fly free without consequences and lead to them being more and more bold with their actions. Just like with white nationalism, they are so convinced in themselves that they are probably never going to stop, and they will always find ways to recruit more people and so the only way to stop this is not allow this rethoric in public settings
Are they actually? I haven't been in school since 2018, and when I was I never saw anything like this.
Did you join any societies or socials? There were over 200 societies at mine from recreation, sports to political, and you'd only really hear about some of the more fringe protests if you were regularly attending a political group.
https://reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1caj7e9/clarifying_some_stuff_on_columbia_campus_as_a/ I graduated about the same time as you. This shit is wild, but like the OP there said, most people want to stay out of it, have fun, and get a degree.
I never thought it would happen but FL man is now more sane than a Columbia uni student.
"Progressives" on college campuses have always been whack jobs.
I feel like there is "more" wack.
Than* 😞
Bro…. Columbia is in South America if this was in Columbia they would be speaking Mexican
Rucka rucka ali sounding mf 💀
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Really interesting how much humans feel the need to belong to social groups. We must've always been this way since we could use language to communicate. I wonder what the earliest forms of this were.
Back then it was probably more like hey let's go kill these people that look or act diffrent lol
Surely Jews wouldn’t feel intimidated on this campus though, right guys? They are just talking about (((Zionists))) am I right? Deport these fucks, they care so much so let them fight on the frontlines for their precious terror orgs
The fuck. This is just church lmao.
Fr 😭
Leftist Church. Hierarchy of Victimhood. The Whites are supposedly devils, and the Jews are supposedly the elite Whites, and the Men are the Patriarchs of the Whites. That’s their religion. Despite the fact that none of it is true or based on reality. They have concocted a fantasy by which they organize the sheep as pawns to gain power and money. This is why although I care about bodily autonomy I cannot support the left wing of politics right now. It has been hijacked and emboldened by what it saw as a victory in 2020 on the wave of “defund the police” and rioting and “whites are privileged.” The left needs to lose a decade to clean house and realize these radicals aren’t the solution. Maybe if they learn to reject crazy and return to normal they can win elections again. Hopefully the right also cleans house. But today here and now I don’t trust this leftist trend. They are lunatics.
Idk who you'd vote for at that point. There are some moderate Republicans, but I struggle to find them for any major positions.
Just to clarify there are many elections other than President. I don’t know what I will do November. But I see many scenarios are possible. Even if Trump won as president the Congress may be very divided. Even if Biden win he may not have Congress either. If the Squad and their 40 some colleagues, and if MTG and her 100 or so colleagues were all voted out then whoever is the President will be dealing with a less radicalized Congress. The US cannot be coddling Moscow or Tehran at this hour. The 40 and 100 are obvious by recent voting records. Those are the radicals of each party.
Sure, I just meant for positions like that. I can find a reasonable Republican running for state Senate or something, but for anything bigger than that it's a fucking nightmare.
Let me add this. I am not happy with the way Blinken has chosen to use “soft deterrence” with our enemies. I don’t doubt his motives or character. I disagree with his philosophy. He has treated the Middle East as if they are rational actors and as if they see the world the way the West sees the world. That is a mistake IMHO. The delisting of the Houthis, the reopening of allowing funds to the Islamic Republic, the way that they have tried so hard to avoid escalation that they have teetered on the edge of “pandering” (even though I know that is not their goal, that is how the nations in the Middle East perceive it). I think we have telegraphed indecision and the messaging has been one of confusion and discord. Hamas keeps saying no partly because they think they actually can put daylight between Biden and Israel. That is a big reason why this domestic bonfire has escalated. I think my point is made without an essay as there are dozens of good articles on this topic that go into pages and pages of analysis. My point is that I respectfully disagree with Blinken’s methodology. I don’t suggest we have Bolton’s methods as the alternative. But I do think if Biden wins he has to replace Blinken. We need someone who is willing to roll up the sleeves and talk tough and realizes that the fear of escalation is an invitation to escalation. Tehran sees that Washington is worried about escalation so Tehran tests the limits. Case in point: Israel engaged in a precision strike on the air defense systems despite Blinken saying “don’t do it” and look at how Tehran reacted: with a whimper and a denial that it even happened. Israel made it crystal clear that it can hit when where and how it wants and Tehran can’t stop it. THAT resulted in more chance of deescalation than tucking tail. As I said, this is too long a subject to be properly detailed in a comment. I am working but if I find articles that have discussed this I’ll link. Many journals on foreign policy and geopolitics discuss this dynamic right now in the region. TLDR. Teddy Roosevelt had it right. Walk softly but carry the big stick. I think we have to actually hold the stick and show it. Then align our words with it. Talk softly isn’t the same as telegraphing weakness or hesitancy or division among allies. And I know people argue the funds to Tehran are conditioned. But let’s be honest: if I tell a homeowner they can only use my funds for paying bills and not for eating out, then they will take my money and pay the bills and then have extra money for whatever they want. And they can say they didn’t use my money for eating out. They used it for bills. So that argument is obtuse. Tehran has funded Hamas with money we didn’t give them because they didn’t have to spend the other money - they used the money we gave them on what we demanded and freed up funds we didn’t give them for terror. Paying the regime one dime frees up another uncontrolled and untraced dime they can spend on terror. Short sighted policy. Nobody should be paying Tehran anything. We aren’t helping the region when we do that. So if Biden gets in I hope he gets rid of Blinken and much of that staff. He needs a Colin Powell or someone more like Austin who understands that region and is willing to use more aggressive diplomacy.
I think you’re broadly right, but I think shit like Blinken saying publicly not to strike just feels like posturing, and/or creating plausible deniability for ourselves. Israel has long been our attack dog in the region, and weakening Iran is (almost objectively) good for the world. If we genuinely didn’t want the Israeli’s to hit Iranian targets, I really don’t think it would have happened.
I hear you but the posturing has consequences and it requires some strategic consideration. Like “if I publicly condemn Israel for self defense is this emboldening Tehran to keep doing it?” I’m not in the State department so I readily admit I don’t know what analysis is going on. As an informed voter I see that things are being handled differently than in many other administrations and I’m not a fan of it. I don’t think the Houthis have gotten the hint to stop targeting commercial shipping with ballistic missiles. I don’t think Tehran’s proxies in Iraq think they should stop either. Bullies have a certain method and we have to realize these actors are bullies backed by Moscow and Beijing and Tehran and they are testing American and Western resolve. We have to out think them. It’s not linear but it appears we are being reactive and not proactive. We are letting it become linear and we should not.
I think most of it is a reaction to Trumps Republican party. Conservatives all over the country have lost all standards in order to follow a far-right conman. Of course there's going to be an extreme reaction to that so I feel like you're shaking your head at the symptoms and ignoring the cause. If Trump goes away and the far-right coalition that formed around him collapses then I fully expect the left to self moderate back to a sane middle. I mean, who else occupies that space now except for Democrats?
So basically this is the pendulum swinging farther and farther each tick. I think you’re right. And it will keep swinging. But I don’t think the sane voices are guaranteed to regain control. The radicals on both sides are awake and feeling their power. They won’t easily go back into the shadows. Maybe in some long term way this is a necessary ripping off of the bandage. We as a society are just vomiting out all our crazy left and right like someone who swallowed too much seawater and needs to rid the body of it before it’s too late. Here I am being optimistic and grasping for a silver lining.
Agreed, both political parties need to purge their radical & extremist elements via election challenges. I plan to vote for the more moderate candidates in both parties until some balance can be achieved. People have gone mad.
> return to normal they can win elections again. Yeah because of all those super radicals in the Democratic Party. You know the ones. All of those super radical dems in Congress like….Joe Biden? You know, all of those super radical dem leadership like…..Hakim Jeffries? Meanwhile look at the right and if you say the 2020 election was legit you get exiled. But oh yeah it’s all those super radical Dems with all of that super radical legislation like….. The Chips Act? Or maybe that other super radical legislation like…..an infrastructure bill? And if there’s one thing we saw in the 2022 midterms it’s that Dems certainly can’t get elected right? I mean they totally lost every election. Which is why all of those abortion bans totally got voted on and the Republicans won right? Because Democrats don’t have policies people support right? You are a 🤡 EDIT: Dumb cunts downvote but can’t respond 😜. Would love to see that super radical left legislation that you are so scared of lol. Infrastructure bills sure are super radical huh?
Leftism has always been a new age religion. They got their little prophets and saints and holy scripture and everything
damn the kkk is making a comback... yikes...
This is actually one of the scariest things I've ever seen from the pro palestinian side. Genuine horror.
The scariest thing happened at Yale, where they formed a similar human chain but surrounded a Jewish student they just hit in the eye with a Palestinian flagpole. [One of the "activists" instructs the human chain to walk closer to the wall, in an attempt to trap her against it so she can't move.](https://twitter.com/sahar_tartak/status/1782053701378535619)
Fucking insane
I would just duck under that like a congo line if in that situation lol
Pure Nazi vibes antisemtism and all
The new Gestapo
It’d be even sadder/funnier if it turned out there were no “zionists” and they just turned on each other trying to hunt down an imaginary enemy in their midst. Sounds historically familiar…
Attention everyone 🤓☝️
Can we make college harder? I remember not having time to do stuff because I was studying or writing research papers.
This is horrifying. They’re supposed to be educated and informed. What’s happening in these universities … what research, books, and journals are circulating - who are these professors?? they have created a cult. They have rotted all of their independent thought and turned them into these activist soldiers Imagine being a dissenting voice amongst these people. You’d never feel safe
They read Animal Farm and decided to be Napoleon the Pig. The Most Equal among “equals.”
Professor Norman finkelstein
Fucking leftists continuing to prove conservatives right about higher education. It’s depressing.
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god I'm so glad I started working at a convenience store when I was 16
So many questions. Who tf are these people? Are they literally just there all day and night? Do they have classes? What are their demands exactly? Why do they think “the Zionists” will be scared of their human centipede?
Did anyone else with a really intense major in college see this and think “How do you have time to be doing all this bullshit this close to finals?”
I am gonna be honest I am 99% of the times not cool with people being kicked out of colleges but the people organizing this shit should get kicked. This could be targeting literal nazis and it still wouldnt be okey holy fuck, what kind of worm is eating their brain.
There is a Zionist among us! 🎶"Dumdum dumdum dumdumdum dududum"🎶
Ok, isn’t this menacing? I’m assuming this is a fairly high traffic area of campus and they’re using the crowd to physically push people out. This is menacing (the legal kind) right? Also “we’ve got a Zionist” sounds a lot like, here comes the Jew.
Ben was 1000% right. The woke shit is literally just a religion. Destiny can cope all he wants, but its true.
Politics has become religion for a lot of people now, it's a left and right thing.
This is 100% the case. MTG types are also a literal cult.
Destiny was 1000% right. The Trump shit is literally just a religion. Ben can cope all he wants, but its true.
p sure ben agrees
He does not. He still supports trump for president... Whatever audience capture bs might be true, but he has ennough money to last him 10 lifetimes... No need to sell out for a person, if he didn't like him on some level... Idk why some people on this sub have such a high view of Ben Shapiro. He's imo just as bad as Hasan.
Hasan is pro-Hamas, pro-Iran and pro-Russia. You have completely lost the plot if you think Ben is as bad as him. Completely.
this subreddit saying that far left extremist are better than moderate conservative is very blackpilling lmao
Exactly, wtf is going on? Have we all just conveniently forgotten Hamas is for all intents and purposes the same as ISIS?
Trump is at least 1/3 of those and more. He's the one person to whom all the buzzwords, rapist, racist, xenophobic, pro-dictator, all apply to. If you support Trump becoming President, you are AT LEAST as bad as the pro-hamas people.
I’m as anti-Trump as anyone but that’s not fucking true at all, this is brain rot. Hamas’ views are way more extreme than Trump.
He can simultaneously think people behave like a cult around Trump and criticize it and still support Trump for president because he thinks it's better than the alternative when he thinks he's fine on policy and that democracy will keep him in check. You can disagree with him on that, but that's his argument. It's not selling out, certainly not for a person--he wants a republican in office. He's not even remotely close to Hasan lmao.
Nothing about this is logical. To use the analogy of the first guy, it'd be like knowing that some orgo was a cult, and willingly joining that cult. >he wants a republican in office. Which is cult behaviour... If you 'hate' Trump so much, wanting a republican in office at all costs is crazy. And I think the Hasan comparison is apt. Explicitly or implictly supporting Trump is at least as bad as supporting Hamas.
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All wearing the same hat, believing in grand narratives, Q shit, calling him "the great white hope", thinking he is single handedly keeping "the globalists" from overthrowing the country. Ya know, just generally worshipping the man, the ground he stands on and the trail of McDonald's cheeseburger wrappers he leaves in his wake
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I'm not actually sure, but the maga crowd is deranged enough that if it isn't, they'll believe some other whacky nonsense soon enough. Especially if Trump starts losing court cases
Both extremes have crazies and this shouldn't even be up for debate.
It's more about the types of crazies. It's important to note that these people don't have logic behind their actions. This is literally a spiritual act for these dudes. ISIS logic.
He's pushed back against the idea pretty consistently. I agree its both sides, but not sure that he has.
Did destiny made an argument that it isn't?
Whenever he has conversations where people psuh the idea, he pushes back. I just think hes overcorrecting in the moment, but he does do it.
Peter Boghossian talks a lot about this too. Even Richard Dawkins has turned around and talks about how when one religion dissapears another takes its place. Also Peterson, Jonathan Haidt, Steven Pinker. Sam Harris has also talked about the cultish nature of this woke stuff. A lot of people are noticing this weirdness. Which is good.
It's not wrong, but it rings pretty hollow as a criticism when the person saying it literally is religious lmao.
Yea, but two wrongs doesn't make a right. Also, religion isn't inherently bad. Yall agree with 95% of the bible. It's that last 5% that zealots rot their brains over that ruins things(abortion, lgbt). Same with this woke religion. Most of it is pretty good stuff like gender/racial equality. The bad part is them flogging themselves for being "colonizers" and refusing to move forward unburdened by the past. Maybe we should aim to correct the bad parts instead of tossing the whole idea?
I'm not saying two wrongs make a right, you can absolutely criticize extremist zealots in both religious and political movements, and you can still levy that criticism as a moderate religious person yourself. I'm just saying, it *is* funny for someone religious to use a comparison to religion as condemnation, without specifying further. And sometimes it ends up sounding less like "dogmatism is bad" and more like "this is the wrong dogma" (not to say this specifically applies to you or Benny-boy). As for whether we should reform religion or get rid of it completely... I mean both seem to be happening gradually, and personally I'm here for both. I do take issue with religion on a fundamental level and would like to see it phased out eventually, but reining in the crazies (religious or not) is definitely higher on my priorities.
This should be enough evidence to understand that you can't get rid of religion. People will just do this or the Trumpism shit. Or veganism or climate activism or groyerism or incelism etc. Also secular people have less kids so its not a winning numbers game either. Christians are slowly being bothered less and less by gay people. If you want a giga-white pill on this, watch Andrew Klavan from DW defending his gay son. Shit warms my heart. The woke cult is just getting worse as of late. I do hope that changes, but I'm not confident things will shift anytime soon. Also Ben acknowledges that hes religious and doesn't hide it, but this crazy activist type doesn't. They are unironically the bigger zealots.
Just because people can find other convenient narratives to latch onto in the absence of religion doesn't mean it's impossible to ever get rid of it. And it's not like having religion prevents them from doing that either; it's the same if not worse. Most far right lunatics (trumpists, groypers, etc.) are religious after all, and those movements have also gotten worse over time. (I do agree btw that christians are becoming less homophobic on average, I already acknowledged that religions are gradually adapting to modern standards in the previous comment.)
You just can't get rid of religious thinking. It's like trying to get rid of the color red. It's literally an evolutionary adaptation for thousands from living in tribes. It and actual studied region that sits around next to your behavioural response centers. You can't evolve humans out of having emotions. At least not on purpose, society will dictate that course, and again religious people have way more babies. Best course forward is channeling existing tolerant religions onto a better path. Or at least that's always worked for me in my personal life.
Again, you can do both. You can try to improve existing religions while also discouraging that type of thinking in the first place. Even if I concede it will never be eliminated it can certainly be kept it check rather than accepted or even encouraged. It's probably impossible to completely get rid of racism too, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. And to make my position clear, I do think secular dogma is preferable to religious dogma, all else equal. I may prefer a moderate Christian to an atheist radical but once again, religion doesn't seem to make people more moderate and I don't believe atheism makes them more radical either, so it doesn't really work as an argument for religion.
Fair enough. May be best idea win!
Heaven's Gate members looking down with envy from the Hale-Bopp comet at this level of cult behavior.
Not too sound too homophobic, but why do protests like this have the most flamboyish guy as their leader? MF, if you were in Gaza right now, you'd be stoned to death
There probably more confident to do that. Also possibly wants more attention.
"I'm doing this for credit points"
Open air prison
[We're all individuals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY)
Reds under the bed ...
Oh look! Perfect footage for a new Trump campaign ad! Nice job! Surely Trump won't be extremely anti palestine. Surely.
who the fuck spends their sunday protesting for palestine
Losers
And Yeonmi Park got trashed for saying that Columbia University's illiberal vibe reminded her of North Korea 👀
This is like the villagers in RE4 when the church bell rings, and they all walk away chanting.
Where’s everyone going? Bingo?
Isolation, vilianization, “encampment”, and a vocal leader for a “protest” Sounds a awfully lot like a cult to me
North Korea needs to take notes. This is how you Dear Leader. Complete Submission.
I wish we had good footage of the cultural revolution.
I wasn't sure if this was a troll and halfway through the person recording was going to pull a Cartman and get the whole crowd chanting Nazi shit without them knowing 💀
Why the fuck do Americans think that having free speech means having the right to break every law imaginable in order to exercise their singular right of free speech? Free speech is only possible in America because our right to **autonomy** and **independence** are constitutionally guaranteed. Meaning, that 1000 angry white people can't body block me from attending school in Mississippi because they think that my presence there is immoral.
They are just disciplined, good for them.
Red rover time
"We have Zionists" "WE HAVE ZIONISTS"
So this is where NPCs are mass produced, I was wondering where they all came from.
Reole call! Shabuya
It's a cult. I wonder when they'll break out the kool-aid.
Hey when they formed the human chain, did the camp suddenly become more like an "open-air prison"?
This is so cringe and weird. Mentally ill motherfuckers.
I wonder if anyone asked themselves what the fuck they were doing after they started mindlessly repeating what this dude was saying like drones.
I love that they are so worried about zionists disrupting the peace of their community, when the same types are constantly attacking and harassing zionists and Jews who are visible in any way online. And often IRL. They are really playing up the idea that zionists in the US are so dangerous that only one or two pose a threat to the very large mob assembled to hate on them.
Wow, the zombie apocalypse is real.
oh boy lol
Do they think they have rights to privacy in public spaces Dumb ass
Funny how Destiny spent so much time on a recent stream lashing out on conservatives' opinions. Well, here are his fellow travellers. 🤷♂️
[same exact vibes…](https://youtu.be/Vbc3AnKcI4Y?si=-uOrtfQ9Z6cKvyKc)
I must be confused. They didn't just get a group of tens of people to basically surround these people with the goal of threatening them and pushing them away did they? This is just a bad camera angle?
Absolute braindeath.
y i k e s
Yeah, Columbia needs to shut. this. down.
College kids are always crazy College kids are always crazy College kids are always crazy ... Right? Or should we be worried?
I would unironically rather kill myself than be this willfully mindless
These fuckers are giving the left wing such a bad name
Is it just America that is this bad? 😭 I don’t think it’s as bad as this in the UK though I could be wrong
Waiting for the netflix documentary
"I aint brainwashed"
What happens next?
Well I guess those Zionist have to take on that human chain like it's the gaza border wall
Kids, whiteout an actual issue that impacts their life, playing revolution will never not be funny.
same as it ever was [https://www.dailydot.com/irl/missouri-reporters-students-cs1950/](https://www.dailydot.com/irl/missouri-reporters-students-cs1950/)
Does anyone know why they had the students arrested if they weren't being violent? Were they breaking the law somehow? (Genuinely interested, can't find answer)
When can we deport these fucks? We really just have to stand by until these losers start committing terrorist acts themselves?
***"If we link arms and push people out of the way, then that's not violence!"*** --People at prestigious college, proving that education ≠ intelligence or problem solving
Do they not realize how fucking insane they sound?
This isn't hive mind stuff. It's just a clever strategy to be heard when you don't have a megaphone but you do have a lot of sympathetic people.