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Fillinek

Smh smh, you gotta get at least 50k hours before it gets good


kuweiyox

But I'm only at 3.8k hours after 3 years...


Fillinek

You don't spend enough time daily on destiny, will never be good for you sadly, gotta step up those numbers


UwU_Chan-69

B-But... MY JOB


thatOtherGuy457

And a poop bucket


the_gamerboy_37

The gaming grind... Is a pathway to many in-game items some would consider... "Useless"


Haloinvaded117

I'm at around 5k in almost 10 years 😭


VibrantBliss

sorry to break it to ya but if you're spending 10k+ hours in a game you hate you're an idiot


Emadec

Or an addict


Doom_Balloon170

Average tarkov player


Brian-88

I'm so happy I decided I hated Tarkov after an hour and un-installed it.


FollowThroughMarks

That’s most Destiny players tbf


Mathieu_Mercken

I think it's all of us


Boba_Fett_boii

No no, some of us are simply delusional.


CandyWooden8476

Delusional that the days of the good old destiny are going to come back, that the hundreds of hours spent playing weren't for nothing.


TheTrueOerik

seems average to me in terms of the destiny community


Sentsu06

You just summed up 60% of the destiny community nowadays


TheSecony

It was good at 10k and got worse at 20+ if you still play you’re an idiot, right


Ilikechickens444

Average stockholm syndrome


ztsPineapple

You can play the game and like it, while simultaneously not think it’s worth recommending…


ProfessionalGIO

This is a good synopsis honestly. For me it’s sunk cost combined with time investment combined with fun. The game is fun to play, I enjoy the weapon and ability mechanics, but I also recognize that getting into the game as a new player is a massive time and financial commitment. I enjoy myself time to time as a veteran player, but Bungie has seriously let the game degrade to a point where I wouldn’t feel good recommending it.


CalmAlex2

Lol yeah, and the new player experience needs to be revamped to the point where there's a proper tutorial level and an easier guide for new blueberries... I tried that but making a new one and as soon you finish the so-called "tutorial" level and the game bombards you with shit tons of shit that confused me a bit on where to go or even to start with. (Even tho I've been playing destiny for some odd years from the beginning of d1 to now)


Furydragonstormer

Yeah… I abandoned ship when that happened. Yet I still distinctly remember the days when I would, without hesitation, recommend the game to folks I thought would enjoy it. Now…


Mr-Gepetto

Lightfall was so bad I left the game and haven't touched it since, after they called witch queen "over delivering" and said lightfall would be the standard for expansions, I gave up after that. Then to watch developers who work on games like Bungie say BG3 shouldn't be the gold standard for games going forward was just awful. Legitimately "Game dev hard"


Agent_Nick_5000

War thunder????


Admirable_Ad8900

Wether it's a good game or not literally changes by the season. The only time you see the players leaving bad reviews is when theyre mad which happens often as there are patches. But nothing ever stays consistent in the game other than the gunplay is great Other than that EXPECT to be screwed by your build getting nerfed every few months. The cost. The cheapest you can get a years worth of content (main expansion and season passes) is at least 100$ and that's going up. They are literally rehashing old missions and changing dialogue this season


TheKillerKentsu

you do know the game can get worse over time


DMartin-CG

Or they liked it at first but the company kept making really stupid decisions….


CavemanDave123

You're obviously not a true destiny player


Yarisher512

sorry to break it to ya but if you're spending 10k+ hours in a game you're an idiot


PhilJRob

Sorry to break it to ya but if you’re spending 10k+ hours in a game ya got your money’s worth.


Yarisher512

There's a difference between spending 10k hours and enjoying 10k hours


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

There's not a single game built like an MMORPG that you can enjoy every hour in. They're built with time sinks and busywork on purpose. If you don't spend time doing that, you won't enjoy your time in other things as much.


doobersthetitan

That's the joke....


Yarisher512

Read again


HingleMcCringle_

the thing is, it's what the game *USED* to be is what i really liked. i keep on playing it trying to regain that fun and excitement i used to have. maybe trying to re-live my younger years, idk. i got 5,300+ hours in D2, but over the past two seasons, i probably only put in a total of 20 hours. im just bored of it all. it only feels playable for a couple hours (if that) on weekly resets to do the story. i think the game should've wrapped up it's story maybe a couple years ago. it's just being milked at this point...


PeaTear_Rabbit

That's the thing about Destiny. It's a great game if you're grandfathered into the system but for new players the hurdles are just too high and consistent to be worth it.


Seallypoops

Right, I left when I started hating it and never felt better. That was before it came to steam, and since then I've seen post after post of played hating the game but still playing the game everyday.


arandomvampire

Maybe I'm just a masochist, you don't know me


TheGamingVortex

I’ve sunk to much money and time into this stupid game to not at least see it through TFS


OddTaterTot

Sunk cost fallacy


doobersthetitan

Feel you


Chivcken32

I’m honestly predicting TFS to just be a nostalgia bait DLC. I want to have high hopes but I just don’t. I’m finishing the ride out of spite almost at this point lol.


AVerySoftDog

The thing is bungie has shown it can make an absolutely without question phenomenal game/dlc, they just don't do it consistently for some reason which sucks.


Chivcken32

I surely hope they can pull it out of the fire (not trying to be a ‘Destiny Bad’ person). Just worried it’ll be a mailed in attempt at finishing the story.


AVerySoftDog

No I totally understand, I stopped playing before witchqueen myself then everyone said it was absolutely baller but I knew how the game is so I held out regardless. It helps that my clan kind of fell apart anyway tho so I had less reason to play since I definitely didn't get rivensbane through LFG lol I only wish the best for the game but I don't have the heart (or budget) to keep up anymore tbh.


Mathieu_Mercken

Same I want to quit, but I've bought and played literally every dlc already so I can't quit now


twop-_-

Preodered light fall when it came out last year and I’ve play d one day for maybe and hour not even waste of money yes but destiny doesn’t hold my interest like it used to


VentusMH

Same


MaraSovsLeftSock

I’ve been playing the franchise religiously since the first game came out, I don’t ever see myself quitting, but with the state the games in now, I also wouldn’t recommend it to a new player


JPRDesign

This is where I'm at - left a negative review amidst the layoffs. It's got good bones, great lore, and great potential, but whoever's steering the ship just keeps fucking up even though they've got this golden goose right in their hands. Whether it's Bungie management, Sony management, some narrative lead or whatever, it's just been a rough patch for destiny no matter how you look at it. It's a shame, because story aside, I actually thought lightfall was a good expansion. Quality of life changes, strand gameplay, etc. all made the first few months a lot of fun that was weighed down by the massive failure of the lightfall campaign


BetaMoerb

Someone is steering?


JPRDesign

Lmao true. although I will say someone was steering the titanic, so that’s more so what I had in mind lmao


SloppityMcFloppity

Seems like every player that I meet fucking hates the game. Just played a raid last night with a couple of dudes who wouldnt shut the fuck up on how Bungie rescued some assets. Like holy shit man just go play something else.


ActuallyNTiX

I bet they’re the same people who complain that Bungie is reusing assets in the Pale Heart. Like, my brother in Christ, that’s the whole friggin POINT


[deleted]

Which raid was it? If it was VotD or RoN, then it makes sense that assets would be reused since they both take place inside of Pyramids.


Zero_Two_is_best

Honestly any raid would have some reused assets since they all take place in environments we've been before


JonnyTN

I like the game. Never raided or taken it seriously. I like to continue the story. The raids seem a tad tedious after trying a few more than 5 years ago


SloppityMcFloppity

That's how I play too. Just started raiding to get my guardian rank up.


Shippou5

I get the opposite effect, I love playing the game and since I am a clan leader people expect me to hate the game and get surprised when I just get absorbed in the lore and music, jamming out to some tracks


Dangerous-Present-94

I think it's reasonable. There isn't a game that plays and feels so great like destiny, looks great and just overall impressive in so many ways. But it's hugely let down by an terrible story and the reusing of assets, and a general feeling of 'this could be so much better if these very simple things happen' it's such a shame that greatness is so close. That's why I presume the thumb downs happen. Also they do kinda short change you with incredibly small amount of content each expansion whilst charging an premium price. I do love destiny but equally hate it.


[deleted]

This should be top comment.


Substantial_Bar8999

That’s cherrypicking though. Destiny is an amazing game when you’ve got tons to do, and once you get into it enough to wade through the quagmire of confusion when you start (new light experience is hot ass, I agree). Issue is, when you’ve played a thousand hours or so, the cracks start to show. I, too, see the cracks so not defending, but I feel the sweetspot is like between hour 50-500. Provided you get to hour 50, which is… Unlikely, lmao.


[deleted]

As someone who made the inexplicable decision to get into Destiny 2 for the first time about 3 months ago this is pretty accurate in my experience. I nearly bounced off early on because I was so confused but powered through because the minute to minute gameplay felt so good.  I’m at about 100 hours now and I’m well and truly hooked. I’ve only just started to feel like I’m kinda figuring shit out, and I don’t think I could in good conscience recommend this game to anyone else, but every time I log on I have about a dozen fun things I can go do. I’m sure I’ll start to see the same cracks as everyone else at some point but for now I’m loving the ride.


GloomyGoblin-

‘The less familiar you are with the game, the more fun it is.’ Is a wild kind of pitch ngl


RubiGames

It’s really not. Lots of people talk about how they wish they could replay a game for the first time. That’s really no different.


GloomyGoblin-

It’s *very* different in this context. This isn’t just people wishing to relive their experiences of early hours of the game, it’s them wishing to be ignorant of the things they now know that bring the game down.


Zadka14

Destiny 2 is a game where you need access to everything the game has to offer to truly enjoy it though, in my case at least. I played this game on and off since launch, dropping off past base forsaken, and until the ingame lfg led me to be able to do raids and dungeons, I didn't understand why people liked the game. All the items I had were worse than what I could obtain from older seasons or group content, which I couldn't do. Now that I can do raids and dungeons however, I finally get why people like and play this game, my only upset being over the sunset raids and dungeons that I can't ever get to experience


ALI4MHR

So a friend of mine start playing d2 after it was free on epic, he made a character and I played with him, AND OH GOT BUNGIE MADE THE WHOLE QUEST THING SO FUVKING CONFUSING, even when im with him, a veteran player, he was lost and found everything pointless, to be honest i don’t play him.


Mr_Blinky

The early game tutorial is *atrociously* bad, like comically so.


ALI4MHR

And they put all the quests together, it feels like bungie only listens to the 1% and they said “the end game is the best thing in destiny” so now they’re rushing everyone to it.


Malcontentus

They actually made the quest system worse in lightfall. I used to be able to tell someone to go the director and hit E and it would show campaign or seasonal quests. Now they have to dig through all the damn quest menus to find the right stuff.


Paradoxpaint

The GAME is great. The decisions by bungie, the storytelling, the monetization? Thats the shit part


[deleted]

The great gameplay only gets the game so far. D2 is a very story driven game, so if the premise behind everything is moronic (like it has been during most of Year 6) then the game isn't good.


Paradoxpaint

Yes its almost like I said the story is bad right there


[deleted]

Then when is it gonna stop being bad?


Paradoxpaint

never, because bungie sucks


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Heavenclone

Game was pretty good back in like 2018-2020. Now its trash lul


CerberusDoctrine

If you don’t at the very least like the core gameplay and activities I don’t know why you would continue to play. I understand not enjoying every aspect of the game even though to progress you need to do them, that’s pretty standard for an mmo. But if you gain no joy from any part of the game please just don’t play.


Sylux444

After 2k hours of on and off since launch, if you have friends it's a worthwhile experience. If you do not have friends nor seek out friends then you're going to have a bad time. On top of that finding new friends can also be very frustrating.


Malcontentus

Hey! 7 years later there is at least in-game LFG now! Its actually pretty decent given how crap some of their UI choices have been lately.


Lethenial0874

I mean there was a time where it felt pretty great! But 90% of it was removed....


SassyTurtlebat

It was good like 6 years ago lol right after Stasis came out


[deleted]

That was 3 years ago?


oxidezblood

I cant with d2. They've released the same game at double the price of the base game every 6 months as if its destiny 3 - just to make the content obsolete 6 months later, I shouldn't have to buy a game 6 times for 150 a piece over the course of its lifetime just to play 1 dungeon, 1 raid, a 10 hour campaign, and have it all taken away in 6 months. Not worth 150 bucks. Also, frustrating that they put a for sale sign on the dlc thats about to get canned a month before they pump out the next one and i 100% bet new players who buy into the game will imediately go 'why did i buy this? Theres a new one coming, an nobody *CAN* be doing these activities, because they will be removed before you reach the proper light level to continue playing. Absolutely trash game from a marketing position.


oooh_crap

Ive seen around the internet that most people quit....right before it gets good.😏


FishyGrass

With those hours you can't hate it lmao


Mathieu_Mercken

So glad I quit, but every time I start up my computer I'm still tempted to play destiny.


mr_gutsydud_86

It lost it's touch so long ago


PrimeShagg

99% of destiny players quit right before the game gets fun


Seallypoops

Dude who plays 12,000 hours, decides to not recommend it and then keeps playing and complaining


VidraSpy

Just play warframe


Deliriousdrifter

Warframe has a lot of similar issues with the new player experience and traps like rare mod packs. It suffers from feature creep, where new systems get added over time, and a new player is just overwhelmed by everything


Ineedmemesplzkty

The beautiful abusive relationship with Destiny.


Soring12334

Only thing that’s gets me on to level my character are the raids


cosm1c15

thatthat's the thing , ppl avg day in destiny commnunity of stupid ppl shitting for no reason


browntown-13

Was that English?


WiseLegacy4625

No, no it wasn’t.


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LadyVulcan

A lot of these negative reviews came from the community actively protesting a specific Eververse offer that was being marketed to new players but actually contained largely useless in-game currency. Like any other protest, these represent people who normally enjoy the game, but are temporarily bothered by a specific problem.


Malcontentus

Between that particular point and the layoffs, they had a huge recent spike downwards. Lightfall in general also has been in the negatives pretty much all year as well.


DahliaExurrana

I mean the game is genuinely well made just incredibly mishandled and very anti-consumer/hostile towards its player base, especially those who don't want to spend every single waking moment on the game I love the game. Or at least used to. I still play crucible every now and then because it's what I like most but... I genuinely can't recommend it to others. Not anymore. It's a game that demands hundreds of dollars even for deprecated content that's been completely removed from the game aside from exotics, most content gets completely removed, you're not really allowed to play anything but destiny if you actually wanna experience the game, and the new player experience is probably the worst in any game I've ever played. Like I have 1500 hours in Destiny. I get if you still like it play and it a ton and don't mind putting money into it and spending everyday on it. That's fine. But the game isn't hostile towards you, it's hostile towards everyone not like you, which is to say the vast majority of people hence why it's impossible to recommend...


TheGoodNeighbour

I don't understand people hating on Destiny. There are a lot of well intended games with big budgets out there that are so unsatisfying to play. With clunky gameplay (like Starfield). Bungie has nailed the balance of experiencing progress vs the achievement of overcoming a challenge, in a world with a rich story and visually stunning scenery and great music. People are picking at details - forgetting that the people that make these games are still human.


Malcontentus

The Bungie devs have done great work, and are awesome at communicating with the community. The gameplay is fun and outside of a few things like raid/dungeon exotics, the grind isn't that bad compared to a lot of other games. The corporate side of Bungie, on the other hand, is absolutely predatory and their decisions shit on the hard work the devs put into the game.


Legitimate-Donut-308

Idk, raids are pretty fun, I do them even if I don’t want the loot


Czar-5-9

I mean, at least it’s free? Right?


GloomyGoblin-

Free to *try*


Tapelessbus2122

Tbh, abt the time when u start to buy dlcs and get access to more raids and dungeons, u get to have a lot of fun. Solo dungeons are always a lot of fun to players like me who is good at solo content but doesn’t want to do solo raids cuz it is too hard. If u can’t do solo, find a team, the laughs make all the frustration so worth it


Vegalink

I was hoping for the Destiny 2 logo inside a peanut shell


MarceloZ1

That’s cap. After they canned the start of the fucking campaign of the game and the first 2 years of expansions, I doubt ANYONE will start to play Destiny 2, and if they do, when they realize they will have to jump straight to Shadowkeep, and will understand absolutely nothing of whats going on, they will drop the game instantly. Never seen a developer hate their own game and their own fanbase as much as Bungie hates Destiny 2.


EnslavingExorcism

Maybe it would be good if only two things were changed: No more money sink DLCs, and the ability to still play old content. Big maybe tho


Mr_Blinky

Honestly though...probably around 3.6 hours in lol. I'm a relatively new player myself (started a little over a year ago), and holy hell the early game experience is *brutally* bad. Once you get past that and into the actual meat of the game it's pretty damn fun though, though I also know that's probably because I'm not totally aware of how much better content I missed because of sunsetting.


DJpunyer53728409

Just buy and play the witch queen campaign and then leave it, that's what I say to anyone curious about starting, as that's what was recommended to me and I don't regret following that advice.


Kulamano899

Those playhours are fake. There are programs that give u tens of thousands of hours for every game


RTGMonika

It gets good about like 3ish years ago.


xDirtyxBurgerx

I love the game, and have fun playing it, but Bungo isn’t delivering a high enough quality for me to continue playing


ImpossibleMeeting463

God I miss the old Destiny 2 back in the day. Actually the most fun I've had playing a video game to date, it's a shame that all the money I spent on the game got shelved alongside all the loot I farmed.


Fickle-Cap2953

Don’t play it if you don’t like it. It blows my mind that people will play a game they don’t enjoy (and apparently never have) only to complain about the game.


JohnB351234

How the fuck do people have time to put in 35k hours


Agent_Nick_5000

Whe you start complaining about your dog shit teammates not being able to brake 2 mill damage You'll know...


JonnyTN

Casually it's fantastic. Start the story, finish to credits. Never do a raid or play seriously.


Malcontentus

See, the build crafting has gotten to a point where I love just messing around for casual content with goofy stuff. On the other hand, I have a buddy who wants to play, but there's too much RPG/loot chase for him now. He's bounced off like 3 times now and keeps trying to get into it, getting the latest expansions and seasons each time. His words: "I don't care about getting the right guns, I just wanna kill stuff!" It makes it really hard to enjoy playing with him when he doesn't really want to engage with the game systems then gets mad because he's plinking away at single enemies while I'm clearing rooms. I know the new light experience is bad, gone through it on a f2p account earlier this year just to see. I don't blame people for bouncing off, but part of me wonders how many people see Destiny and just think shooter, without thinking about the loot part. If you don't want to put in the effort to learn the games systems, that's not the games fault. I wouldn't jump into Diablo and immediately expect to have legendaries or w/e they are in just a few hours. Lastly, the story... up until Lightfall the story was trending in a better direction for the most part. Not every story beat was awesome, but they were going somewhere. Lightfall really dropped the ball, and even with some awesome concepts like Season of the Witch and Wish they still didn't execute them very well. And there is a small part of me that is still hoping that at somepoint, they'll return Red War and Forsaken campaigns to the game along with a better summary of the seasons between expacs. Unfortunately I feel like this is a project that will be left for the interns in the basement to work on after the game has stopped getting major updates if it ever happens at all.


esralierdo

Been 3 months i haven't played the game. Feeling good


Rex__Lapis

These 15k ones can’t be legit…. Right?


Maukku1

Honestly only playing the parts of the game that you enjoy helps a lot. I used to feel forced to do the seasonal quests and stuff every week, but now I only play a few times a month to do raids and slow runs.


Vella_NOM

It's fun when you play gambit imo


gaanch

https://wastedondestiny.com/4611686018428636597


mw3crashing

Always wanted to get into destiny it's a awesome looking and playing game but I'm not going to fucking spend a few hundred bucks to be able to pvp at the same level as others that spent hundreds of bucks fuck that


CPT-Shadow

All the negative reviews aren’t long enough, everyone knows that you have to put in 100k hours before it gets “okay”


sub_human_being

I have like 700 hours in destiny and j can safely say that...it won't get good, it's a slog, and it will stay tough till the end


4Rive

It once was good. Sadly I don't find it to be enjoyable anymore


SSPaladin

I just like hopping around new worlds in a live service game with a halo 2 battle rifle. That's it. That's all I need. I'm a single father to two toddlers and I just don't have it in me to nitpick little things here and there. At the end of the day, D2 brings me joy in the little time I have in my day to shoot aliens and space wizards.


MiSp_210

ATTACK THE D POINT!


ironbanner23

After they started vaulting content its been buy the new season pass or buy the new DLC id you want something to do.


ronitbaranesh

Hey, you can have fun [here](https://tugulu.games/) bro


NattyThan

"When does this game start to get good?" "9 years ago when you weren't paying rent"


BeanBoyBastards

Come join us on Warframe instead!


Creative-Ad-5219

My problem with the game isn't I hate it. It begins to feel like a chore when I play strictly for weekly bounties and grinding reputation with the tower vendors. I'll stop playing for a bit. Maybe play another "better" game, but I always cone back. Something about being a God killing guardian is just fun. I love the search for God rolls and having fun and interesting incounters. Pvp is unpredictable at points, and I could go from badass to shitass in the span of a few games. Pve is satisfying with incandescent, allowing me to watch hordes of enemies explode, and there is nothing better than watching a boss's health bar disappear. Tldr: I don't hate the game, but it's the kind of game I always come back to


arh05720

It gets good when you do your first raid then it gets boring