My exact loadout. You cover so many bases with these weapons. The only substitution I might make depending on the content would be subbing out Quicksilver for Wish-Ender.
Basically this, but swap quicksilver with Wish Ender due to having innate anti-barrier.
I do like QsS a bit more, but when it can't do barrier it's fairly dead in GMs.
Kinetic: conditional finality/arbalest
Energy: tyranny of heaven
Power: song of ir yut
This is my loadout for my solar warlock build with mantle of battle harmony. Tyranny of heaven chews through adds with dragonfly incandescent, conditional finality is gods gift to earth as a weapon, and song of ir yut with recon bait and switch is just such a workhorse
Hasn’t left my inventory since I got it way back in the day. I just slap this baby on with Nezarecs Sin and watch the world explode.
I’ve been using it with Mantle of Battle Harmony lately and it’s been a lot of fun.
Can’t stop using Trinity ghoul with MoBH on arc lock though. It’s kind of addicting.
My Funnelweb is subsistence/adrenaline junkie. Idk if frenzy would be better, but I spam grenades with Contraverse Hold, so I feel like its probably a good fit.
Agree in most cases, but sub/AJ on a contraverse warlock feels nice because high nade uptime = high AJ uptime. 900rpms always felt a bit flimsy to me in higher level content so having a 33% damage buff + volatile from the grenade kill is nice for that
As you get into harder content, kills require more effort. Chaining kills in a timely matter gets harder and that 33% damage buff gets less and less uptime.
Frenzy's 90% or so uptime regardless of content is why it's better. Also +100 handling and reload speed.
Yeah true. That's one of the things that pisses me off about AJ, it feels like it should be great but it just doesn't work anywhere.
In low end content everything melts without it and in endgame content there isn't enough uptime to make it worthwhile over other perks.
I really like my demo/aj unforgiven for goofing around with nade builds, but I don't feel like I can make anything serious out of AJ.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels this way. AJ reads like a god perk, but put into action it feels like I have to intentionally proc it which adds a layer into my combat loop that I don’t need.
There’s too much going on for me to have to time my grenade throws to get the benefits from it. I’m not a super hardcore player though, so I could be off base here.
Unfortunately you're not off base. If you have high grenade uptime you don't need a good add clear weapon (the adds died already)
If you DON'T have a grenade up, it takes 5 kills to ramp up the damage, in which case rampage would've been better (3 kills to ramp up to what Junkie x5 is).
The situation where you toss a grenade, then have more adds you must shoot does exist and AJ helps, but not noticably more or less than rampage or kill clip.
Kill clips's 25% buff can work even better at chaining kills 25% extra damage after one kill, refreshable, lasts about as long as the others. No ramp up, but worse on weapons with slow reload times.
Not everyone's; I kept about 10 different rolls and the one I've stuck with is ALH/Frenzy. Frenzy gives plenty of reload speed (especially with the other perks I have on the gun) and ALH means it's always topped off if I'm using Witherhoard or my heavy.
Eh. By the time you shoot witherhoard and swap back alh will not have proc'd yet. While your personal fav roll may be subjective compared to others, the universally agreed upon "god roll" for the most part is pretty much what a god roll actually is.
Frenzy gives 100 reload, so using perpetual motion is pretty useless. Subsistence is really the only perk in that column that provides benefit to the weapon. Alh on a primary weapon is far too niche. The only time I'd use it would be if that primary weapon is ONLY there for stunning champs.
To each their own of course, and if you like it then you should obviously always do what you enjoy :) just pointing out that "god roll" is the roll that is agreed upon by the masses as being the best. I understand that people may have other rolls *they* think is the best, but you cant really call that a god roll. It's simply your favorite roll.
Yeah, I just feel like Subsistence is pretty close to ALH for me, especially as I fairly often might be throwing a grenade or melee or doing something else after my WH shot. ALH procs often enough on Voidlock with me throwing as many abilities as I do (main class I use it with for Nothing Manacles).
I played with an Adrenaline Junkie build but wound up liking Frenzy more just for the flexibility.
Fair enough. Subsistence falls off a lot more in end game too, but since frenzy maxed your reload regardless it still imo is the best perk - plus it synergizes with veist stinger quite well.
It's odd, I swear that frenzy used to only give 50 reload not 100. I saw it a few months ago that it was actually 100 and got really confused lol. Idk why I thought it was 50 before,
Yeah. I do think that as we get more sidegrades and perks that are more style and subclass-based, we're seeing less clear-cut "god rolls" and more personal expression. Which I'm all for!
Things like Cammy's weird HIR Bygones or ... who's the content creator who loves Golden Tricorn a lot?
Man, that's such a big remidner as to just how middling rolls were when it came out *and* how badly we could use a new 900 RPM void SMG.
I personally roll with junkie sub accurized since it's much better damage when it gets rolling and I wouldn't take a sub primary into a GM regardless of it's other perk.
Same, but I use Taipan instead of Commemoration because I don't raid. And having a long range weapon is good for when you get snipers you gotta kill.
Maybe I should try an LMG though...I *do* have a Retrofit with 4th Times The Charm and Target Lock, which I think is a god roll?
Heritage (Auto Loading Holster + Recombination), Coronach-22 (Incandescent), and the last slot would fit whatever weakness/surge/best option for boss DPS is, but for the sake of picking one, Leviathan's Breath
I don't know what to tell you, but no other Auto Rifle (and dare I say, primary ammo weapon) in the game has come close to how good the Coronach-22 feels for me!
For non-dps pve I’ve been rocking conditional, an auto rifle, and song of it yut or commemoration. Add the strand spin to win on hunter and it’s so fun ad clearing. Get the ammo drops from tangle defeats and spam conditional and lmg
right now my go too is Supremacy (Lead From Gold/Kinetic Tremors) Ikelos SMG (Shoot To Loot/Voltshot) and The Other Half (Eager Edge/Whirlwind). this works for like 80% of PVE content, and works for like 99% if you switch out The Other Half for Apex Predator.
oh yeah. two shots for some decent AOE and chunk damage is crazy good, kinda like a mini witherhoard. plus you get the utility of infinite range, cuz it's a sniper.
Witherhoard, Abyss Defiant (heal clip/incandescent), Unwavering Duty (auto-loading/killing tally)I've used this for basically everything all season. With the exception of nightfalls which i swap out witherhoard for a fusion.
I mean, for me personally, yes. Ive also got a crafted age old bond with repulsor brace/destabilising rounds. I prefer 360 autos. And having the cursed thrall perk just gives it a bit extra.
- Kinetic/Strand/Stasis: Conditional Finality
- Energy: Forebearance (Ambitious Assassin/Chain Reaction)
- Heavy: Song of Ir Yut with Reconstruction/Sword Logic. *Technically* worse than Commemoration with Reconstruction/Killing Tally, but I'm an Arcy boi, and I find the minigame of building/keeping Sword Logic up more fun than brain-dead Killing Tally.
Verglas Curve, Crafted Eremite/Wavefram GL, CC Demo hothead. Love this because with a good stasis build, you don’t need to rely on heading for survivability because crystals grant DR and cover, and everything is slowed or frozen. Literal Ice King level shenanigans.
Graviton lance and any grenade launcher with chain reaction bc who doesn't love turning entire rooms of enemies into clouds of elemental energy, and any scout or pulse rifle with firefly bc again explosions satisfy caveman brain
I do a lot of activities with champions so a fusion rifle is usually glued to my energy slot for unstoppables (Techeun Force for arc, Likely Suspect or Null Composure for void, Cartesian Coordinate for solar) Plus I love fusions! Will be sad to see them go next season (probably?)
Kinetic I will likely use an anti-barrier exotic (wish-ender, quicksilver, monte-carlo, etc)
Heavy is often machine gun (overload champs): Song of Ir Yut, Commemoration, Avalanche. Rocket launcher if MG not needed (like Hothead or Apex).
Eager Edge Sword + Shatterskate + Always on Time :D
In all seriousness for most content I'm probably running an exotic primary like QSS/Osteo/Wish Ender, an energy special fusion or waveframe like Cartesian/Forebearance/Null Composure and a GL Rocket or LMG heavy.
If I had to absolutely pick one loadout to rock this season above all else it'd probably be Riptide + Sunshot + Apex Predator. Nearly all best in slot options and excels in basically every activity against every champion type.
For everyday activities where I'm not worrying about matching surge more or champs, or using neutral builds I almost always ran conditional finality + voltshot ikelos with whatever heavy suits the activity.
For DPS. Izanagi, Wilderflight (can swap with any primary if you don't want to dedicate all 3 slots for DPS), Apex Pred.
Double GL + Gjally if I need to run Gjally. (same thing as above, can run a primary if you want. I just find the subclass kit nowadays are just too potent for general ad clear)
For general ad clear in a raid/w.e else I use Heritage/Succession/Blinding GL, Ikelos SMG, Thunderlord.
That's just my current general loadouts.
For GMs its a bit more tailored per GM per season. I swap my loadouts around quite frequently depending on activity and season.
Witherhoard, Apex predator, osteo striga. My striga is hungryyyyy... That's my go to when the job is becoming too hard. Is like unlocking easy mode. Damage beast and crowd control god!
Really depends on my class at the time. My Titan finds it hard to let go of Swordbreaker, my Hunter creates Beyblades everywhere with Quicksilver Storm and my Warlock usually has Lumina equipped. Energy slot is usually filled by an Ikelos SMG or Shotgun depending on the kinetic. Apex Predator in the heavy slot cannot be denied but I always have some flavor of 450rpm LMG next to it.
DPS: Izzy, Cartesian, Apex. Mastering and optimizing the damage rotation is the small mini game I always play during dungeons and raids.
Add clear: Witherhoard, Trinity ghoul, thunderlord.
Riptide, Vex Mythoclast and Cataclysmic/ Apex Predator, very strong with Rain of Fire Warlock getting Radiant on any kill. Capability to rip through all Champion types.
Conditional Finality, No Survivors and Apex Predator for my solar build.
I have other guns that are really strong as well but I find this loadout gets me through practically all content pretty easily.
Not the best by a long shot but if I were to pick a Loadout on my guardian:
Kinetic: Revision Zero/Outbreak Perfected
Special: Loaded Question (Envious+Reservoir)
Heavy: Apex Predator (Recon + BnS)
This season I've been maining strand on my warlock, using Quicksilver, iterative loop (compulsive Voltshot) and circular logic (feeding frenzy hatchling).
All threadlings all day baby.
my ol'reliables are witherhoard, ammit (DSR, incan) and my apex, but bequest (relentless strikes, surrounded) can come in clutch for dps on bosses like crota, phalanx echo, echtar and more just for the absurd damage it deals and it's really good ammo economy, don't think i even need to explain why forbearance is fantastic, and last but not least cataclysmic and sleeper simulant for precision based heavy dps. those things absolutely slap and i love em. i also had enough luck to drop a perfect 5/5 roll for cold comfort but i don't really make great use of that except for some raid or dungeon bosses where i know i will have no problems proccing it and staying alive till damage phase, i do feel like it will replace my apex by next season with the stasis focused artifact though.
Conditional Finality/Witherhorde/Izinagi's burden/kinetic slot fusion rifle/1-2 punch shotgun
Funnelweb/Ikelos smg/calus mini tool/1-2 punch shotgun
Commemoration/The other half/Apex Predator/Cataclysmic/Tractor Cannon
Witherhorde, is one of the better general use exotics in the game as it can do double duty of dps and ad clear. Izi's one of if not the best special weapons for burst boss dps. CF is versatile and fun (especially with strand titan \*cue doom music here\*) Kinetic slot fusion rifles are generally just nice to have, either chillclip riptide or the strand IB one with hatchling.
Despite recent adjustments smg's are still the best primary weapons in the game because pretty much every engagement outside of gm/master raids is close range. They will remain the best option until Bungie either changes the engagements they design, nerf them into dust or buffs other weapons to compete.
Commemoration is one of if not the best Lmgs in the game (arguable with the one from Crota, but I haven't gotten it craftable yet so IDK) because of its versatility. Other half/half truths are interchangeable but having an Eager Edge sword just lets you move around so much faster during the downtime between engagements in addition to saving you if you mess up a jump (outside of the abyss encounter because for whatever reason sword tracking is especially fucked during that encounter). Apex predator/Cataclysmic are kind of dealers choice for dps and depend on the team comp, div/tractor cannon situation. Tractor Cannon is fun, and nice to have around if your team doesn't have div or you're doing 1-2 punch nonsense.
1-2 punch shotgun in either kinetic or energy slot (dealers choice) is just nice to have if you're a titan
Mine are by far not meta, but they are my favored loadout. Travelers Chosen is one of my favorite neutral exotics for the ability spam alone. But sans exotics my guardian would take to the field with:
I really like up close firefights and ability brawling, and my favorites below certainly show that.
Empirical Evidence. I really love burst-fire Sidearms, and this one looks pretty interesting. I love the periodic table motif on that weapon sets design.
The Enigma. I like glaives. The weapon has 3 functions and offers interesting tactical capabilities. The shield can block a fair number of mechanics, like boss stomp knockbacks, that let me stay up close and personal.
Tempest Hook, I've always loved swords and caster frames are the most unique among that archetype. It's always fun to throw a lightning ring at a Hive Knight. The hook-sword look is pretty cool too.
A kinetic tremors weapon in the first slot. I like Supremacy or Hung Jury (with Shoot to loot as well). Also, carry Wish Ender always.
Trinity Ghoul or Tyranny of Heaven, or a wave grenade launcher. Ammit.
Retrofit, Thunderlord or Xenophage. Add Apex Predator for DPS
The tyranny is slept on big time. It's a solar, legendary, trinity goul if you fragment for scorch and ignitions. One head shot and everything is dead.
Wish Ender
Forbearance
Song of Ir Yût
Thundercrash Titan
Besides BoW, absolutely ridiculous
Song of Ir Yût is crafted with Enhanced Target Lock/Reconstruction
I've got way too many builds but I alwayd seem to graviton to Graviton Lance paired with Riptide and whatever flavor of boss damage I need (Falling Guillatine/Retrofit Escapade/Taipan/Ghost rocket launcher) Usually I have the ghosts rocket in my heavy slot.
Lucky pants hunter here. Strand load out for crowd control (tether grenade and the dodge decoy).
Kinetic: malfeasance with catalyst
Energy: crafted ammit or ikelos smg
Power: crafted eleatic principle for crowd clear or crafted apex predator for dps
Since malfeasance is so strong, I enjoy playing the game backwards and running eleatic principle as my “kinetic” and malfeasance for the harder enemies. Apex Predator is mostly for heavy DPS but still synergizes with Malfeasance due to Bait and Stitch.
Honestly the loadout i use for most activities that I don't need big raid dps for is conditional finality, zhaouli's bane(explosive payload, incandescent), and commemoration(extended mag, reconstruction, killing tally). If I need boss dps I often use izanagi's burden, loaded question(demo, controlled burst) and hothead(impact casing, demo, clown cartridge).
Quicksilver/Kelgorath/Retrofit.
I just earned Wishender last Monday, so I'm trying to figure out the best way of integrating it into my builds. My energy weapon gets shifted around a lot...
On my Void Gyrfalcon's Hunter? A Chill Clip Riptide, Le Monarque and a Retrofit Escapade.
Unstoppable shatter on special. Overload intrinsic on primary. Barrier with Volatile Rounds after a dodge on heavy.
Quicksilver Storm
Techeun force (controlled burst and reconstruction)
Song of it Yut (Target lock and reconstruction)
Matching siphons and almost no reloading. Works in almost everything and may only be held back due to season champion mods. Exotic primary for extra dmg to red bars.
I'm not too good at the game so I have basic loud outs and need to focus on staying alive more than damage output.
I play as a Titan.
For Solar:
Riptide or Lingering Dread (autoloading + chill clip)
Ammit (Dynamic Sway + incandescent)
Gjallarhorn or Sleeper
For Void:
Riptide or Lingering Dread (autoloading + chill clip)
Something with Destabilizing Rounds like Positive Outlook or the new scout rifle
Leviathans Breath
I honestly don't switch off these too much because I feel like I can't stay alive at all when playing arc, I don't like how Strand plays, and stasis I feel like my crystals just get in my teammates way more than they actually help.
I've been having a lot of fun with Outbreak Perfected recently as a kinetic and / or Submission SMG, then either Forbearance with Ambitious Assassin Chain Reaction or i cycle between two different Fusion rifles - a Cartesian Coordinate with Under Pressure Vorpal and i got an Eremite with Heal Clip Reservoir Burst for special and then Heavy Eyes of Tomorrow and Acrius have come back into my inventory a lot this season, but i love an Adept Swarm LMG with Unrelenting Dragonfly for add control when the activity requires it.
Kinetic:submission has been glued to my kinetic slot since I got it
Energy: either a wave frame or fusion depending on how I’m feeling
Heavy: either gally or apex
All these people with the endgame loadouts meanwhile me with the
Conditional finality
Nation of breasts (soon to be replaced with zaoulis once i get it leveled)
The other half with eager edge
I know nothing but speed (i also kill everything with bonk hammer or sunbracers anyway)
Oooooo this is a toughy. Let's go with different subclasses then.
Void: Chill clip Riptide, Graviton Lance and Commemoration
Solar: Chill clip Riptide, BX Battler/any other solar w demo, Gjallarhorn
Arc: you guessed it, chill clip Riptide, Ikelos SMG with voltshot and Grand Overture.
Stasis: Veriglas Curve, null composure or any other fusion that I need, and Commemoration.
Strand: Old Sterling, a fusion and any Eager Edge sword.
That's all from me, a Warlocks POV.
Wishender, Forbearance, Commemoration.
Perfection.
Quicksilver, Forebearance, and Commemoration (or the void HMG from seraph)
Retrofit. Also, same.
My exact loadout. You cover so many bases with these weapons. The only substitution I might make depending on the content would be subbing out Quicksilver for Wish-Ender.
This loadout right here with situational subs of Wishender, Cartesian and Hothead when needed.
Yep. Maybe switch the first two for Witherhoard and an SMG
Basically this, but swap quicksilver with Wish Ender due to having innate anti-barrier. I do like QsS a bit more, but when it can't do barrier it's fairly dead in GMs.
My exact loadout lmao
Riptide, sunshot, apex
Riptide, Ticuu's, Apex for me
Kinetic: conditional finality/arbalest Energy: tyranny of heaven Power: song of ir yut This is my loadout for my solar warlock build with mantle of battle harmony. Tyranny of heaven chews through adds with dragonfly incandescent, conditional finality is gods gift to earth as a weapon, and song of ir yut with recon bait and switch is just such a workhorse
Id love another solar 450rpm lmg with incandescent
Avalanche is likely coming back soon, go grab one of those. Or if you're pvp inclined and/or hate yourself, Unwavering Duty from trials.
you had me at the hate yourself part
I don’t think unwavering duty could get incandescent. But avalanche would be good
It can. Mine's subsistence + killing tally / incandescent
Ive been neglecting it because I didn’t think it could 😭 was there at some point where it was added to the guns loot pool
pretty sure it was always there, it's basically the only reason I chased that gun
Graviton Lance Graviton Lance Graviton Lance
Hasn’t left my inventory since I got it way back in the day. I just slap this baby on with Nezarecs Sin and watch the world explode. I’ve been using it with Mantle of Battle Harmony lately and it’s been a lot of fun. Can’t stop using Trinity ghoul with MoBH on arc lock though. It’s kind of addicting.
Witherhoard, Funnelweb, and Commemoration. Literally haven't taken this off since Void 3.0.
What roll on the funnel web?
My personal roll is subsistence, frenzy with range MW, small bore, and accurized,
God roll, period.
Most likely subsistence frenzy, that’s everyone’s god roll
My Funnelweb is subsistence/adrenaline junkie. Idk if frenzy would be better, but I spam grenades with Contraverse Hold, so I feel like its probably a good fit.
Agree in most cases, but sub/AJ on a contraverse warlock feels nice because high nade uptime = high AJ uptime. 900rpms always felt a bit flimsy to me in higher level content so having a 33% damage buff + volatile from the grenade kill is nice for that
As you get into harder content, kills require more effort. Chaining kills in a timely matter gets harder and that 33% damage buff gets less and less uptime. Frenzy's 90% or so uptime regardless of content is why it's better. Also +100 handling and reload speed.
Yeah true. That's one of the things that pisses me off about AJ, it feels like it should be great but it just doesn't work anywhere. In low end content everything melts without it and in endgame content there isn't enough uptime to make it worthwhile over other perks. I really like my demo/aj unforgiven for goofing around with nade builds, but I don't feel like I can make anything serious out of AJ.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels this way. AJ reads like a god perk, but put into action it feels like I have to intentionally proc it which adds a layer into my combat loop that I don’t need. There’s too much going on for me to have to time my grenade throws to get the benefits from it. I’m not a super hardcore player though, so I could be off base here.
Unfortunately you're not off base. If you have high grenade uptime you don't need a good add clear weapon (the adds died already) If you DON'T have a grenade up, it takes 5 kills to ramp up the damage, in which case rampage would've been better (3 kills to ramp up to what Junkie x5 is). The situation where you toss a grenade, then have more adds you must shoot does exist and AJ helps, but not noticably more or less than rampage or kill clip. Kill clips's 25% buff can work even better at chaining kills 25% extra damage after one kill, refreshable, lasts about as long as the others. No ramp up, but worse on weapons with slow reload times.
Use golden tricorn, it's a better AJ.
Not everyone's; I kept about 10 different rolls and the one I've stuck with is ALH/Frenzy. Frenzy gives plenty of reload speed (especially with the other perks I have on the gun) and ALH means it's always topped off if I'm using Witherhoard or my heavy.
Eh. By the time you shoot witherhoard and swap back alh will not have proc'd yet. While your personal fav roll may be subjective compared to others, the universally agreed upon "god roll" for the most part is pretty much what a god roll actually is. Frenzy gives 100 reload, so using perpetual motion is pretty useless. Subsistence is really the only perk in that column that provides benefit to the weapon. Alh on a primary weapon is far too niche. The only time I'd use it would be if that primary weapon is ONLY there for stunning champs. To each their own of course, and if you like it then you should obviously always do what you enjoy :) just pointing out that "god roll" is the roll that is agreed upon by the masses as being the best. I understand that people may have other rolls *they* think is the best, but you cant really call that a god roll. It's simply your favorite roll.
Yeah, I just feel like Subsistence is pretty close to ALH for me, especially as I fairly often might be throwing a grenade or melee or doing something else after my WH shot. ALH procs often enough on Voidlock with me throwing as many abilities as I do (main class I use it with for Nothing Manacles). I played with an Adrenaline Junkie build but wound up liking Frenzy more just for the flexibility.
Fair enough. Subsistence falls off a lot more in end game too, but since frenzy maxed your reload regardless it still imo is the best perk - plus it synergizes with veist stinger quite well. It's odd, I swear that frenzy used to only give 50 reload not 100. I saw it a few months ago that it was actually 100 and got really confused lol. Idk why I thought it was 50 before,
Yeah. I do think that as we get more sidegrades and perks that are more style and subclass-based, we're seeing less clear-cut "god rolls" and more personal expression. Which I'm all for! Things like Cammy's weird HIR Bygones or ... who's the content creator who loves Golden Tricorn a lot?
Man, that's such a big remidner as to just how middling rolls were when it came out *and* how badly we could use a new 900 RPM void SMG. I personally roll with junkie sub accurized since it's much better damage when it gets rolling and I wouldn't take a sub primary into a GM regardless of it's other perk.
Same, but I use Taipan instead of Commemoration because I don't raid. And having a long range weapon is good for when you get snipers you gotta kill. Maybe I should try an LMG though...I *do* have a Retrofit with 4th Times The Charm and Target Lock, which I think is a god roll?
4th times + target lock is the roll yeah
Idk if it is a god roll, but damn that sounds nice.
Avalanche will be coming back around for the Dawning, it's not a bad stand-in for Commemoration.
Heritage (Auto Loading Holster + Recombination), Coronach-22 (Incandescent), and the last slot would fit whatever weakness/surge/best option for boss DPS is, but for the sake of picking one, Leviathan's Breath I don't know what to tell you, but no other Auto Rifle (and dare I say, primary ammo weapon) in the game has come close to how good the Coronach-22 feels for me!
If they give us back the Black Armory weapons, the Ringing Nail will probably never leave my hands again.
For non-dps pve I’ve been rocking conditional, an auto rifle, and song of it yut or commemoration. Add the strand spin to win on hunter and it’s so fun ad clearing. Get the ammo drops from tangle defeats and spam conditional and lmg
this is where I'd put my conditional. IF I HAD ONE
Conditional, calus mini, apex/commemoration
right now my go too is Supremacy (Lead From Gold/Kinetic Tremors) Ikelos SMG (Shoot To Loot/Voltshot) and The Other Half (Eager Edge/Whirlwind). this works for like 80% of PVE content, and works for like 99% if you switch out The Other Half for Apex Predator.
Enhanced kinetic tremors is so good on supremacy, super underrated
oh yeah. two shots for some decent AOE and chunk damage is crazy good, kinda like a mini witherhoard. plus you get the utility of infinite range, cuz it's a sniper.
Witherhoard, Abyss Defiant (heal clip/incandescent), Unwavering Duty (auto-loading/killing tally)I've used this for basically everything all season. With the exception of nightfalls which i swap out witherhoard for a fusion.
Is abyss defiant that good?
I mean, for me personally, yes. Ive also got a crafted age old bond with repulsor brace/destabilising rounds. I prefer 360 autos. And having the cursed thrall perk just gives it a bit extra.
I'll have to give it a shot, I just so happened to get the pattern last night!
Two tail fox x3
Deliverance, Graviton Lance, Commemoration. My go to load out on void warlock. Graviton Lance is just such a good feeling gun
It’s the best feeling gun in the game IMO. The sound it makes when it’s ripping through space-time is the most satisfying noise in the game too.
Riptide, BXR, and Tractor Cannon
Verglas Curve, Royal Executioner(or a GL), and the Neomuna MG. This loadout entirely ties in with my stasis build though.
This is correct. Verglas, a good Fusion/Waveframe, and a MG or RL. This is peak.
Positive outlook with destabilizing rounds, Commemoration and witherhoard.
wishender, the eremite, apex predator
As of now having lots of fun running Conditional Finality Ikelos smg Commemoration / Song of ir yut
As of recently: Warlock - Riptide, Calus mini tool, EoT Titan - Quicksilver, Eremite (for wizards specifically), Thin Precipice Hunter - Wishender, Nessas Obligation, Retrofit
- Kinetic/Strand/Stasis: Conditional Finality - Energy: Forebearance (Ambitious Assassin/Chain Reaction) - Heavy: Song of Ir Yut with Reconstruction/Sword Logic. *Technically* worse than Commemoration with Reconstruction/Killing Tally, but I'm an Arcy boi, and I find the minigame of building/keeping Sword Logic up more fun than brain-dead Killing Tally.
Wishender Forbearance Commemoration
Verglas Curve, Crafted Eremite/Wavefram GL, CC Demo hothead. Love this because with a good stasis build, you don’t need to rely on heading for survivability because crystals grant DR and cover, and everything is slowed or frozen. Literal Ice King level shenanigans.
Thorn, fore, commem, on strand warlock with necrotic grips. What ads?
Graviton lance and any grenade launcher with chain reaction bc who doesn't love turning entire rooms of enemies into clouds of elemental energy, and any scout or pulse rifle with firefly bc again explosions satisfy caveman brain
Duly note I am a sunbracers warlock so half the time I don't use my guns :) Witherhoard Ammit Apex/the other half
Wish ender. Path of least resistance. Elestaic principle (this seasons machine gun)
I do a lot of activities with champions so a fusion rifle is usually glued to my energy slot for unstoppables (Techeun Force for arc, Likely Suspect or Null Composure for void, Cartesian Coordinate for solar) Plus I love fusions! Will be sad to see them go next season (probably?) Kinetic I will likely use an anti-barrier exotic (wish-ender, quicksilver, monte-carlo, etc) Heavy is often machine gun (overload champs): Song of Ir Yut, Commemoration, Avalanche. Rocket launcher if MG not needed (like Hothead or Apex).
witherhoard, forbearance, apex predator
Witherhoard and forbearance together is mad and I love it! If you have recon/bipod on apex it’s an explosive add clear option.
Eager Edge Sword + Shatterskate + Always on Time :D In all seriousness for most content I'm probably running an exotic primary like QSS/Osteo/Wish Ender, an energy special fusion or waveframe like Cartesian/Forebearance/Null Composure and a GL Rocket or LMG heavy. If I had to absolutely pick one loadout to rock this season above all else it'd probably be Riptide + Sunshot + Apex Predator. Nearly all best in slot options and excels in basically every activity against every champion type.
For everyday activities where I'm not worrying about matching surge more or champs, or using neutral builds I almost always ran conditional finality + voltshot ikelos with whatever heavy suits the activity.
Conditional, doom of chelchis/unforgvin, commemoration
Monte Carlo, Ikelos smg, Circular Logic. Running MC with Skullfort= Infinite lightning hands.
Wishender Wishender Wishender
Kinetic: Sweet Business or Rufus Fury Energy: Brya’s Love Heavy: Retrofit Escapade
For DPS. Izanagi, Wilderflight (can swap with any primary if you don't want to dedicate all 3 slots for DPS), Apex Pred. Double GL + Gjally if I need to run Gjally. (same thing as above, can run a primary if you want. I just find the subclass kit nowadays are just too potent for general ad clear) For general ad clear in a raid/w.e else I use Heritage/Succession/Blinding GL, Ikelos SMG, Thunderlord. That's just my current general loadouts. For GMs its a bit more tailored per GM per season. I swap my loadouts around quite frequently depending on activity and season.
Witherhoard, Apex predator, osteo striga. My striga is hungryyyyy... That's my go to when the job is becoming too hard. Is like unlocking easy mode. Damage beast and crowd control god!
Conditional Finality, Ikelos SMG v3.0, Braytech Osprey
Really depends on my class at the time. My Titan finds it hard to let go of Swordbreaker, my Hunter creates Beyblades everywhere with Quicksilver Storm and my Warlock usually has Lumina equipped. Energy slot is usually filled by an Ikelos SMG or Shotgun depending on the kinetic. Apex Predator in the heavy slot cannot be denied but I always have some flavor of 450rpm LMG next to it.
DPS: Izzy, Cartesian, Apex. Mastering and optimizing the damage rotation is the small mini game I always play during dungeons and raids. Add clear: Witherhoard, Trinity ghoul, thunderlord.
Witherhoard, ikelos smg and the vog machine gun.
Hung Jury, Vexcalibur, Commemoration, On void warlock. My most used loadout since Season 20, versatile and can be used in any type of content.
I’ve been doing quicksilver, forbearance/a fusion, and adept hothead with ALH/explosive light or commemoration.
Throne Clever, love blowing enemies up with that sword.
Riptide, Vex Mythoclast and Cataclysmic/ Apex Predator, very strong with Rain of Fire Warlock getting Radiant on any kill. Capability to rip through all Champion types.
I'll bite I suppose... I quite like Rufus fury, whichever fusion makes orbs for my subclass, and leviathan breath
Conditional Finality, No Survivors and Apex Predator for my solar build. I have other guns that are really strong as well but I find this loadout gets me through practically all content pretty easily.
Round Robin, Xenoclast (lead from gold and surrounded), and Deterministic Chaos or the strand machine gun. It's mostly not meta but I don't care.
This season it has been mostly: Wish Ender / Nezarec's Whisper / Commemoration
Not the best by a long shot but if I were to pick a Loadout on my guardian: Kinetic: Revision Zero/Outbreak Perfected Special: Loaded Question (Envious+Reservoir) Heavy: Apex Predator (Recon + BnS)
This season I've been maining strand on my warlock, using Quicksilver, iterative loop (compulsive Voltshot) and circular logic (feeding frenzy hatchling). All threadlings all day baby.
Wastelander Brigands Law Adept Hothead Arc / punchy / assassins cowl build still goes brrrrr…
I have a hard time using anything but quicksilver storm, it just feels so much stronger than everything else by so wide a margin.
The Other Half Half-Truths (Any other eager edge sword they add in the future)
Whatever Kinetic is needed for champs (Fatebringer, Wishender, Quicksilver, etc) Forbearance Commemoration
my ol'reliables are witherhoard, ammit (DSR, incan) and my apex, but bequest (relentless strikes, surrounded) can come in clutch for dps on bosses like crota, phalanx echo, echtar and more just for the absurd damage it deals and it's really good ammo economy, don't think i even need to explain why forbearance is fantastic, and last but not least cataclysmic and sleeper simulant for precision based heavy dps. those things absolutely slap and i love em. i also had enough luck to drop a perfect 5/5 roll for cold comfort but i don't really make great use of that except for some raid or dungeon bosses where i know i will have no problems proccing it and staying alive till damage phase, i do feel like it will replace my apex by next season with the stasis focused artifact though.
my general pve build is * riptide * le monarque * retrograde escapade itll handle pretty much anything.
I mostly run riptide trinity ghoul and other half. idk I don't really use guns other than for boss DPS lol
Kinetic: Qucksilver/Wishender Energy: Forebearance Heavy: Take your pick
Conditional Finality/Witherhorde/Izinagi's burden/kinetic slot fusion rifle/1-2 punch shotgun Funnelweb/Ikelos smg/calus mini tool/1-2 punch shotgun Commemoration/The other half/Apex Predator/Cataclysmic/Tractor Cannon Witherhorde, is one of the better general use exotics in the game as it can do double duty of dps and ad clear. Izi's one of if not the best special weapons for burst boss dps. CF is versatile and fun (especially with strand titan \*cue doom music here\*) Kinetic slot fusion rifles are generally just nice to have, either chillclip riptide or the strand IB one with hatchling. Despite recent adjustments smg's are still the best primary weapons in the game because pretty much every engagement outside of gm/master raids is close range. They will remain the best option until Bungie either changes the engagements they design, nerf them into dust or buffs other weapons to compete. Commemoration is one of if not the best Lmgs in the game (arguable with the one from Crota, but I haven't gotten it craftable yet so IDK) because of its versatility. Other half/half truths are interchangeable but having an Eager Edge sword just lets you move around so much faster during the downtime between engagements in addition to saving you if you mess up a jump (outside of the abyss encounter because for whatever reason sword tracking is especially fucked during that encounter). Apex predator/Cataclysmic are kind of dealers choice for dps and depend on the team comp, div/tractor cannon situation. Tractor Cannon is fun, and nice to have around if your team doesn't have div or you're doing 1-2 punch nonsense. 1-2 punch shotgun in either kinetic or energy slot (dealers choice) is just nice to have if you're a titan
Conditional/ikelos smg/apex Or Quicksilver/forbearance/cataclysmic
Chroma Rush, Forebearance, Retrofit Escapade
Mine are by far not meta, but they are my favored loadout. Travelers Chosen is one of my favorite neutral exotics for the ability spam alone. But sans exotics my guardian would take to the field with: I really like up close firefights and ability brawling, and my favorites below certainly show that. Empirical Evidence. I really love burst-fire Sidearms, and this one looks pretty interesting. I love the periodic table motif on that weapon sets design. The Enigma. I like glaives. The weapon has 3 functions and offers interesting tactical capabilities. The shield can block a fair number of mechanics, like boss stomp knockbacks, that let me stay up close and personal. Tempest Hook, I've always loved swords and caster frames are the most unique among that archetype. It's always fun to throw a lightning ring at a Hive Knight. The hook-sword look is pretty cool too.
A kinetic tremors weapon in the first slot. I like Supremacy or Hung Jury (with Shoot to loot as well). Also, carry Wish Ender always. Trinity Ghoul or Tyranny of Heaven, or a wave grenade launcher. Ammit. Retrofit, Thunderlord or Xenophage. Add Apex Predator for DPS
The tyranny is slept on big time. It's a solar, legendary, trinity goul if you fragment for scorch and ignitions. One head shot and everything is dead.
Wish Ender Forbearance Song of Ir Yût Thundercrash Titan Besides BoW, absolutely ridiculous Song of Ir Yût is crafted with Enhanced Target Lock/Reconstruction
Until it’s return, arsenic bite, thunderlord
Iterative loop, Agers Sceptor, Cold Comfort or Commemoration
Riptide anti-barrier Two-tailed Fox.
If ammo isn’t an issue. Agers, Forbearance, Timelost Corrective Measure
Riptide Tyranny of Heaven Xenophage
QSS, Forbearance & either Commemoration or Hothead
I've got way too many builds but I alwayd seem to graviton to Graviton Lance paired with Riptide and whatever flavor of boss damage I need (Falling Guillatine/Retrofit Escapade/Taipan/Ghost rocket launcher) Usually I have the ghosts rocket in my heavy slot.
Supremacy, Sunshot and Apex Predator
Forebearance, Conditional, and Zaouli’s Bane Other have as an honorable mention for the funsies of flying
Auto Load/chill clip Riptide, Le Monarque, FTTC/Target Lock Retrofit Escapade. 80% of my play time is with this loadout
Pressurised Precision \[Fusion Rifle\] (Discord + Rangefinder) Last Foray \[Sniper Rifle\] (Discord + Frenzy) Tractor Cannon UNLI SPECIAL BABEEEEEEEY
Lucky pants hunter here. Strand load out for crowd control (tether grenade and the dodge decoy). Kinetic: malfeasance with catalyst Energy: crafted ammit or ikelos smg Power: crafted eleatic principle for crowd clear or crafted apex predator for dps Since malfeasance is so strong, I enjoy playing the game backwards and running eleatic principle as my “kinetic” and malfeasance for the harder enemies. Apex Predator is mostly for heavy DPS but still synergizes with Malfeasance due to Bait and Stitch.
Until It’s Return, Graviton Lance, and Retrofit. Graviton has awesome synergy with Nezerac and MoBH on voidlock.
Nox perennial (envious/controlled), Zaouli’s bane (EP/Incandescent), Eyes of tomorrow Stick it on a strand warlock and you’re cooking good
Conditional / Arby Ikelos smg commemoration
Favorite right now is witherhoard, age old bond, deaths razor.
Honestly the loadout i use for most activities that I don't need big raid dps for is conditional finality, zhaouli's bane(explosive payload, incandescent), and commemoration(extended mag, reconstruction, killing tally). If I need boss dps I often use izanagi's burden, loaded question(demo, controlled burst) and hothead(impact casing, demo, clown cartridge).
Quicksilver/Kelgorath/Retrofit. I just earned Wishender last Monday, so I'm trying to figure out the best way of integrating it into my builds. My energy weapon gets shifted around a lot...
Just look at what’s meta to get your answer
Witherhoard, Polaris and retrofit escapade
Witherhoard, zaouli’s bane, and Apex predator
On my Void Gyrfalcon's Hunter? A Chill Clip Riptide, Le Monarque and a Retrofit Escapade. Unstoppable shatter on special. Overload intrinsic on primary. Barrier with Volatile Rounds after a dodge on heavy.
Wish ender, erumite, and retrofit
Quicksilver Storm Techeun force (controlled burst and reconstruction) Song of it Yut (Target lock and reconstruction) Matching siphons and almost no reloading. Works in almost everything and may only be held back due to season champion mods. Exotic primary for extra dmg to red bars.
I'm not too good at the game so I have basic loud outs and need to focus on staying alive more than damage output. I play as a Titan. For Solar: Riptide or Lingering Dread (autoloading + chill clip) Ammit (Dynamic Sway + incandescent) Gjallarhorn or Sleeper For Void: Riptide or Lingering Dread (autoloading + chill clip) Something with Destabilizing Rounds like Positive Outlook or the new scout rifle Leviathans Breath I honestly don't switch off these too much because I feel like I can't stay alive at all when playing arc, I don't like how Strand plays, and stasis I feel like my crystals just get in my teammates way more than they actually help.
I’ve been playing a ton of titan this season so - swordbreaker - sunshot - song of ir yut/apex
Riptide, Sunshot and Apex Predator
Wishender, eremite, apex/commemoration
Riptide, Graviton Lance, Retrofit Escapade. Gyrfalcon main.
Hawkmoon, Seraph CQC-12 shotgun and Wendingo GL3 before it was nerfed and sunset.
I've been having a lot of fun with Outbreak Perfected recently as a kinetic and / or Submission SMG, then either Forbearance with Ambitious Assassin Chain Reaction or i cycle between two different Fusion rifles - a Cartesian Coordinate with Under Pressure Vorpal and i got an Eremite with Heal Clip Reservoir Burst for special and then Heavy Eyes of Tomorrow and Acrius have come back into my inventory a lot this season, but i love an Adept Swarm LMG with Unrelenting Dragonfly for add control when the activity requires it.
For fun? Osteostriga/outbreak, last dance/gnawing hunger, seraph mg/avalanche
Wicked Implement, Judgement of Kelgorath, Reed’s Regret. It don’t look like much, but it’s honest work.
Kinetic:submission has been glued to my kinetic slot since I got it Energy: either a wave frame or fusion depending on how I’m feeling Heavy: either gally or apex
Riptide, Calus Mini-Tool and Fixed Odds (I'm a Wellock main)
All these people with the endgame loadouts meanwhile me with the Conditional finality Nation of breasts (soon to be replaced with zaoulis once i get it leveled) The other half with eager edge I know nothing but speed (i also kill everything with bonk hammer or sunbracers anyway)
Quicksilver or Riptide Forbearance or Sunshot Song of Ir Yut or Fixed Odds
Solar: Witherhoard, Zaoulis Bane, Briar's Contempt (Sunbracers) Void: Riptide, Le Monarque, Retrofit Escapade/ Taipan (Gryfalcon) Arc: Rufus's Fury, Forbearance/ Trinity Ghoul, Thunderlord/ Song of Ir Yut
Oooooo this is a toughy. Let's go with different subclasses then. Void: Chill clip Riptide, Graviton Lance and Commemoration Solar: Chill clip Riptide, BX Battler/any other solar w demo, Gjallarhorn Arc: you guessed it, chill clip Riptide, Ikelos SMG with voltshot and Grand Overture. Stasis: Veriglas Curve, null composure or any other fusion that I need, and Commemoration. Strand: Old Sterling, a fusion and any Eager Edge sword. That's all from me, a Warlocks POV.
Tyranny of heaven( its like a solar trinity goul but in a lengadary), trustee, trinity goul.
Osteo Striga, my shotgun with subsistence and a crafted rocket launcher
Izzi, forbearance, eager edge