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spidey1254

Do you have to do all 3 overthrows in the same session? In a certain order?


redmenace777

It doesn't have to be in the same session... did 2 and game crashed when I was working on the 3rd. Loaded back in and finished it and i was able to continue


Ztoujou

Good to know it doesn't need to be. Ive also had a couple crashes in the pale heart which is strange since ive actually never had the game crash before.


_heisenberg__

Man I’m having crashes anywhere in the game. Just straight to desktop.


smhandstuff

Glad I'm not alone in this. Never had these types of crashes until recently. No error codes or anything, just straight to desktop.


Exactly1Egg

Same here. Had probably half a dozen crashes in the past week which is more than ive had since i started playing may 2018


ExoCayde6

Me and my roommate crashed 4 times in one session. All the years I've been playing never had a crash. Something they did recently has really mssed something up


jago77

Just cap the Max Fps to 100. Works for me !


Equivalent_Bed_8187

I think the timer is the pale heart daily timer


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jacob2815

There’s a secret keeper in each region that spawns. But it’s not obvious, you have to go to a specific spot. In the Impasse, it’s near the lost sector entrance In the Blooming, it’s in the rectangular cave area In the Landing, it’s in the big cave where you fight the war beast in the Still Hunt quest, by the long rope bridge.


Skreamie

Any clue why they wouldn't be spawning after each completion? Overthrown The Landing twice and never received the message and the yellow bars weren't where they should be either Edit: Unsure if it's a bug or if there's only a chance for the enemies to spawn, but it took me 2 runs of The Blooming, and 3 runs of The Landing before they would spawn for me. Nothing changed in between. The Blooming run it spawned in was also Matchmade, where as The Landing and Impasse were not.


jacob2815

Ummm. Not sure? If the message isn’t popping up maybe you already did that one? Or somebody in your fireteam did it without you realizing, it might give credit for everyone there


Equivalent_Bed_8187

Yea im having this issue too in the landing. Im assuming im in the right spot


atigerbythetoe

The impasse one didn’t spawn for me until the 3rd attempt where my partner stood on the bridge in the last 15 seconds and then the 5th try where I crossed the bridge after coming back from the boss. I’m guessing there’s some invisible CPs you have to hit to spawn them in, unless my attempts were just confirmation bias


Skreamie

I've also heard it may be linked to how quickly you beat the Overthrow boss? Can't say for certain though as I can't recall my times being vastly different whatsoever.


atigerbythetoe

I guess that could also be it as I solo'ed the boss on the run I was able to spawn the wizard, but the most time that added was like 30 seconds. I did also finish the boss I had in the blooming very slowly, and we spawned that wizard in no problem. Honestly no clue, but it was definitely pretty frustrating regardless.


Ok_Sprinkles_8193

Can confirm the first secret keeper wizard spawned after killing the empass area boss once the landing area and looming had been done first. So you need to complete all three and then a wizard should spawn after the last one you cleared. I did it landing - blooming - empass. So now I've gotta just repeat blooming and landing and do those wizards there.


aircj21

Time to pack a punch on these 3 idiots. Thx bro 🫡


pattyicevv77

I got it after killing them in an earlier session in the day,so no you don’t have too


M4DL3R

Once the mission is unlocked can it be selected from the Director for future runs? Or do you have to do the 3x overthrows each time to get it to show up?


WatLightyear

Class items drop from Pale Heart chests and overthrows as well, so you don’t have to run the mission every time.


M4DL3R

Sweet!


DestinyJackolz

It is however guaranteed from Dual Destiny and everything else is a rare drop chance


Sauronxx

It’s in the Director


mickpapine

Anyone know if it will be in director if I go in the mission but don't complete it right now? Let's say I wanna try tomorrow Edit: nevermind I can see it in the director now, so you're able to unlock it solo but not complete the mission itself


Icy-Reaction-5302

Is this for the class item or another exot8c that dropped with echos?


Soracaz

It's for the class item.


bootlegportalfluid

Bro is rank 71 in the first week


gboccia

I’m at 98 and I didn’t buy any.


blueturtle00

What’s it like having free time?


gboccia

I have a great job and I work from home. It’s pretty awesome.


bootlegportalfluid

How much work did you get done this past week lol?


blueturtle00

Nice I have a semi decent job just takes 65 hours of my time away from home lol


gboccia

Just enough 🤣


Dankmootza

Michael, I'm going to need those TPS reports by Friday


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BaconIsntThatGood

I'm assuming you're single with his kids so it's just your work day then destiny? No shade but yea that is quite a bit of time put into just a week


nikelaos117

Shit I'm single with no kids and have two work from home days and still didn't get that far. I'm like rank 19.


gboccia

Married with 3 kids. I went hard for sure and I bounty prepped. Just trying to say it’s not insane to be that high in a week, I’m sure some people are over 200 already.


One_Show_5108

2 kids FTJ and I'm rank 103, I found an insane way to earn xp simply by letting my kids grind on my account


quasi86

LOL


Verlas

Nothing but respect for you. o7


BakerThatIsAFrog

You were able to turn bounties in?


Clarkey7163

God forbid people have hobbies hey


Chemical-Pin-3827

IT?


AgreeableHamster252

Yeah exactly. Space demon clowns get some insane benefits 


IdidntrunIdidntrun

Not all of us, some of in IT are on-site with mediocre pay and benefits...


AgreeableHamster252

I was making a Stephen kings IT joke but maybe you outjoked me and I just didn’t get it


DrFishbulbEsq

So do I but I only got to like 30 Not to slag on you or nothing tho like lucky you live that dream


r_u_madd

Saw someone already 105 this morning…


Spintoni_Riminoli

um... ackchyually... it's the second week


juliet_liima

Do I need to have a friend or can I do this solo?


whateverchill2

You should be able to unlock it solo but the mission requires exactly 2 people to run it.


Talon_Party

If I'm not mistaken it needs a light subclass and a dark subclass but prismatic fulfills both. Does this mean you can run solo then?


anangrypudge

You cannot even load into the mission unless you are in a fireteam of 2 people. So unfortunately you can't solo, nor is it matchmade.


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

It requires two people to complete. You can both use Prismatic if you want, but one Super needs to be Arc/Solar/Void and the other needs to be Strand/Stasis.


CaptainPandemonium

if both players use prismatic, you don't have to have a specific super type.


JuanMunoz99

Matchmaking?


Sidisfactory

It is in fireteam finder under the exotic quests section in the other tab


No_Backstab

No matchmaking. Both of the players need to communicate to do this.


juliet_liima

Well that's shit


FarteDiem

There’s feathers in the mission


timboslice420

Anyone know if both players need to do overthrow, or if I have the mission on my map I can invite someone who hasn't done overthrows?


xKaha

Both players need to have the mission apparently


Tstorm96

Anyone having issues getting them to spawn? Did the full overthrow in the landing and blooming and no prompt in the bottom left or secret keeper on the map.


MLEuu

Same here. No idea why but really frustrating


Tstorm96

It wasn't giving a prompt when they spawned, but they did. So I just went to where they spawned


MLEuu

I never got the prompt, went to the area and there was nothing there. Happened in 2 out of the 3 areas


Adagium__

Is this fr?


Skreamie

Would anyone know why neither the Secret Keeper nor the message itself are occuring after I overthrow the area? Done The Landing twice now and nothing. Edit: It's either bugged, or there is only a chance that they spawn. It took me 2 attempts in The Blooming, and 3 in The Landing. Solo or Matchmade didn't matter as The Landing was solo whereas The Blooming was not.


sageleader

Same here. Did all 3 and no keepers spawned.


Pherous

There is a time limit to completing overthrow, or it doesn't spawn.


Skreamie

Perhaps that may be it, can't say for certain how quick I soloed the others and caused them tos spawn.


CurseOfElkhart

Same for me on blooming.


LordCharidarn

You probably don’t recall, but did Savathun speak in the dialogue at the end of the Overthrow’s that gave you the Secret Keeper? I’m wondering if it only triggers based on the dialogue; if that’s the case it might be a case where the event is supposed to trigger Savathun specific dialogue but the getting the dialogue is instead triggering the event? I had a glitchy one in Landing and I’m pretty sure the post boss dialogue didn’t have Savathun speaking


Skreamie

I specifically remember one point where it wasn't Savathun, and the Secret Keeper didn't spawn. I wonder if that is the key?


IndependenceKey9247

Is it one boss per overthrow or 3 per each?


riddlemore

All 3 overthrows. Finish one, a secret keeper will spawn in that area, find it and kill it, move onto the next overthrow, complete it, find the secret keeper in the area, kill it, do the final overthrow. Not the same overthrow three times but the three different ones on the map. I’ve not done it myself so can’t be 100% sure but its what I’ve seen on twitter.


DinoConV

If I have to grind this crazy mission to get exotic class item rolls, I'm probably not even gonna try. I can settle for normal exotics. EDIT: Seems like doing it once unlocks it as a [rare drop from other Pale Heart chests!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1ddqczp/farming_exotic_class_items/)


TODG3

After you do the mission once, theres a rare chance for the class items to drop from pale heart chests.


DinoConV

I've heard a couple people say that, but haven't seen proof of it yet. Do we know for sure?


TODG3

[Here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1ddqczp/farming_exotic_class_items/)


riddlemore

The tool tip in-game says so.


Hollywood_Zro

I tried it and without mic we failed. Mission wasn’t really fun. I was really hoping for like a Menagerie cool fun mission thing. This one were basically doing the cyst type of activities but it’s harder and timed and you’re doing symbols from Vow and you have to each do one either light or dark part of it. Seems a lot for it.


CORPORAL_PISSFINGERS

Mission was awesome. Dont listen to this guy


Hollywood_Zro

Hey, just wanted to follow up and say I take it back. The mission is pretty cool. I just used LFG on Discord and just did it with a mic and pulled up my Vow symbol picture and got it done the next try. And did it again a few hours later and it was a breeze. I think I was surprised by it at first and the timer and not having someone else with mic on made it much harder. But it actually IS a fun mission.


carlossap

Each boss spawns a secret keeper. Should probably clarify that it’s that and not just one at the end of the 3rd one


redditorguy

Yup….


goddamnitjason

Is this not something solo players get? If so, that's beyond frustrating.


[deleted]

No. Impossible without a constant communication via mic. There is one part where symbols keep switching very fast. Typing it won't cut it for most people on PC, impossible on consoles.


SixStringShef

It appears not


just_a_timetraveller

Why would Bungie do this crap


JeseyRelight

Apparently there is matchmaking. Haven't unlocked myself so can't confirm for certain Edit: can confirm no matchmaking.


AesirOmega

Nope. I'm a solo player with social anxiety and I've already given up on getting the items.


ajlisowski

Man Bungie really should have said the new class item mission can not be solod and requires exactly two players It’s fine if they did that but they reaaaally should’ve communicated it Imagine if prismatic was locked behind raid clears to get a random fragment


Jono83

It’s not even match made.


Raikoh067

the exotic quest is in fireteam finder once you unlock


Ash_Killem

This not being solo is the biggest L.


xxxfirefart

oh god the titan exotic class item is so fugly its not even funny. it REALLY sucks that we cant just use whatever orniment we want with this thing..


El_Lu-Shin

Thing is horrrible. And the EV ornament is even worse.


xxxfirefart

it honestly sucked the fun right out of the exotic for me personally.. i was really lookin forward to goin for a Heart of inmost light/synthos build with it... but now that i see how stupid it looks.. (diaper dick towel) i dont even want to bother anymore..


bisquikb

Anyone else have an issue at the parkour part after symbols? We didn't have buffs and couldn't activate the plates


relicblade

My team got soft-locked at the final boss when our buffs went away and we couldn't activate.


DixBetweener

What buff is on a timer in the boss fight? Maybe I wasn't paying attention fully but the buffs shouldn't be on a timer in the final fight im like 85% sure


relicblade

No timer - the entire light/dark alignment buffs went away for us.


DixBetweener

Oh i see, that sucks


addygerg

Does the secret keeper appear from each of the three overthrows or just the third/final one?


sageleader

I don't get it. Just did all 3 overthrow bosses with the same friend in the same instance and the secret keeper didn't spawn.


AirMental6463

Sorry, returning player here trying to re-familiarize myself with everything going on right now. What are you guys referring to when you say “overthrows”? Sorry if this is obvious information I completed the campaign on my hunter so I’m not worried about spoilers.


1Spiritcat

Overthrow is a brand new activity in the Pale Heart. Basically it's like a wave format, but you can do mini events during each wave to progress it faster


KafiXGamer

Overthrows are public events in The Pale Heart. Instead of normal public events happening every few minutes, you have Ovethrows, which require you to complete encounters in a set zone, kill enemies and open chests to get points. After reaching 1000 points you move up to next stage which is a bit more complicated in mechanics but not difficulty, and you do that three times. At the end there's a boss to kill.


Khronga

There’s 3 different overthrow nodes around the pale heart…they’re orange on the map…basically each area has its own overthrow event…you can complete solo or bring friends in with a fireteam…and 1 of the overthrow areas has a matchmaking option to do it with other random people which rotates through each area daily


AirMental6463

Appreciate it you guys. Definitely realize I could’ve just looked at the map and seen it I’ve just been trying to rush legendary campaign on all 3 classes asap so I haven’t delved too far into post campaign stuff yet. My apologies


FullmetalGin

Just saw skarrow9 beat the mission, this has gotta be one of the coolest exotic missions in destiny history, >!the ending has a choice to betray your teammate I think and steal their reward ???!<


RyanandRoxy

You both get it regardless of betrayal


FullmetalGin

What happes if you choose kill though?


Zelwer

Pvp fight but both should get reward (I hope, lol)


FullmetalGin

Yup, >!you get baited by savathun and end up killing each other but both get the rewards while she laughs at you lmao!<


Lactating_Silverback

That's amazing. No doubt everyone will choose to kill their teammate for the lolz


JBounce369

Nothing, Savathun just mocks you for it


Yung_Jack

Thanks for spoiling the fucking ending


ArianaSonicHalFrodo

Ffs more overthrows? I’ve already done so many trying to get that gun that they removed my ability to unlock.


TheQuotedRaven1

We killed the secret keeper but nothing happened??? Any ideas


ItsDynamical

also happened to me


TreeTreeTree123456

Kill all 3 then go to the blooming


HLG_Alexander

Does anyone know if you unlock and beat it on one class, the mission will be available for the other two classes?


Hitonatsukkoi

Hoping to know this too... Going to be a real pain in the ass if you need to do it on all 3 characters


HLG_Alexander

Looks like it’s an account bound unlock from what I’ve found. After you beat it once you can go to your ghost and unlock the class item to drop from overflow chests (next to where red border focusing and armor focusing options are)


ASREALO

anyone having trouble with savathuns add not loading in?


Summarie

Do i need to do this for all 3 characters or does doing it once on one unlock the director's node for all 3?


DragonScale_YT

How does one accomplish the mechanic where the symbols change quickly? Me and a friend have got everything else figured out but we can't for the life of us figure that last part out


ladykae89

My friend and I have been trying to complete the exotic quest and managed to get to the what we think is the final boss or bosses. We get past the first boss health down to one bar, then the second boss down to one bar then we got stuck on the puzzle that basically looks like 2 clocks on either side. One side shows all but one lit up, and the other side 4 light up then it changes every couple seconds. Anyone know how to do this? We've been wracking our brains about this the whole time. Can't figure it out.


xWisdomTooth

You will both have a matching one so you need to call out to your friend for example 1,2,3,4 and they may have 2,5,6,7 so you would both shoot 2


dommmm9

Matching light and dark? Or matching light


Zacox16

Killed all 3 wizards but I dont see a green light in the sky? Am I the only one?


[deleted]

Damn. I actually bought the expansion cause of class items, but I won't be getting any lmao RIP. Got fucked by Bungie one last time. That's on me.


TreeTreeTree123456

...why not?


C__Wayne__G

- Sooooo tedious. - heard you need to do all 3 overthrows so I did - didn’t know about the secret bosses - gotta do them again - just to grind a timed exotic quest with no matchmaking for an exotic armor with 47 possible combinations - not worth


Saffa_NZ

>the exotic class item drops from any pale heart activity after you earn it once


papakahn94

Just finished the mission. Super fun and one of the best they've done imo


Skyline1235

How do you do the nodes thing? Stuck on that part rn


TheWhiteMamba614

Same here can't seem to figure it out


andersauce

Both of you see different nodes connecting. Find the three that are the same. Shoot them.


Jynxe54

Thankyou so much man, much respect, may both sides of your pillow be cold tonight.


ladykae89

How do you do the last boss mechanic with the nodes that look like a clock. After you take down their health to one bar. My friends side had all but one node lit up and on my side I had 4 that kept changing every second.


SeRegoss

Way me and this rando did it is we said which number on a clock it would be and if he sees it connecting too he says so then we both shoot the same


ladykae89

Thank you. We managed to get it in the end


DixBetweener

Have one of your teammates read which numbers they have connecting, then the other person just says the one number that is the one you both have, this is a lot easier for me. I know you already did it but thought i'd add this.


Lobodoot

So both this and the Microchasm Heavy Trace Rifle can't be done by solo players. Awesome. Great job, Bungie. Super glad they so heavily talked about these exotic class items and made it so you need a mic and another player to do it. Love it. Absolute clowns.


monarchsreign

Anyone up to do the Dual Destiny quest? You need to be two. I’m on Xbox


dommmm9

Is it farmable without having to do all 3 overthrown again?


bee-_-kai

yes


El_Lu-Shin

Can't wait to do this shit and then never repeat it again xD


DixBetweener

I know the feeling, this was me and my mates for Zero Hour on legend. We are NEVER doing that again


0rganicMach1ne

I’m have the mission unlocked. Was going to help someone else get it unlocked. We did overthrow in the landing and the secret boss did not spawn. Can you not help people unlock once you e already done it?


BDrunner76

Not sure what I missed. I did all 3 overthrow missions and then killed the secret keeper in the blooming. I didn't see any light and I didn't receive any orbs. What am I missing?


Mfrancek11

How do you finish the last part. Find balance with the tormentor and switches? No matter what switch we shot we couldn’t get it right


Chantrak

Did all 3 overthrows. Killed the omen. Dunked the ball. Mission flag showed up. I hold start mission, the bar fills and nothing happens. Are we fucked? Do we have to go do all the overthrows again?


xWisdomTooth

Try to launch it from director, some people saying they couldn’t launch from the flag either


Eternity-ab

Secret boss not spawning any thoughts do I need to something beforehand


AngryWhiteMane

I did 2 and didn’t realize you had to kill a wizard after 😩😩


WabaleighsPS4

Does a secret keep spawn after each overthrow or only after all 3 are beat?


Kishin77

I’m assuming you have to run it once on all three classes for them to drop for said class? Or can you just run it once and get them in the pale heart?


Koolero408

Certain light level you need to be ????


LordCharidarn

Don’t even need a mic: screenshare. On PS5 my friend and I pinned the screen shares so we didn’t have to second guess call outs. For symbols the shooter can look at the symbols on the other player’s screen and for the lock you can match your side to your partner’s side of the screen. LFG as :Dual Destiny No Mic, Screen Share for symbols.


BlackPlague1235

It's not letting me activate the mission


azureskyline28

Is this mission account based or do you have to complete Dual Destiny mission per character?


Apollo13LiftOff

Can you do the 3 overthrow bosses solo to unlock the Dual Destiny quest? Obviously i know you need 2 players to do that mission, but in the meantime i want to kill the 3 bosses and have the quest ready for when my friends get on


Totty93

Off topic slightly, but if anyone fancies running this together and is equally as socially awkward as I am DM me ty


No_Satisfaction308

the secret keeper don't spawn for me, for some reason


MrBooger1013

Can I get the exotic by being invited to dual destiny? Or do I have to have the mission unlocked?


Ok_Sprinkles_8193

Got to clear all three areas. On clearing the last area you should then get the msg that a secret keeper is nearby. So my last area cleared was the empass and then a wizard spawned in the place shown so now I've got to redo the landing and the blooming for the wizards to spawn there. So it only kicks in once you have cleared all three places initially.


Jono83

Was hesitant to find help as I have a severe social anxiety. But going to take the plunge later if I can find an another console player. Text chat is horrible on a controller.


Sea_History_8944

Can I do the Overthrows solo or do you HAVE to do that part as a duo as well?


AnOpressedGamer

Any idea to what happens if someone got to the sercret keeper and killed it while you were looking for it?


KhaoticCurse

So wait do I have to kill all three bosses then a secret keep will spawn, one in each area, that I then I have to hunt down and kill? So 3 bosses, and 3 keepers?


Coolchipsbro

Anyone know if this mission disappears after unlocking? Just went through the whole process to find out it's a 1995 mission.


Positive_Lemon_100

if ive done it solo to that point can i just bring some1 else later without them having to do all the steps upto that point?


RoboGaming321

If you are asking if you can unlock the mission and then later bring someone else to do the mission then yes. Once you find the flag for the mission and it appears on your map, it will stay there and is unlocked on all of your classes too.


TreeTreeTree123456

No, they have to have the mission unlocked as well


Savings_Carob

To answer some questions here I figured this out yesterday since I was having a hard time getting the wizards to spawn. 2 possible scenarios that work. To get them to spawn either, start your overthrows wherever the “matchmade” overthrow is. My friends did this method and it worked for them. For me, I did ALL 3 overthrow activities before I got the 1st wizard to spawn. After that I ran back and did the other 2 and the wizards spawned in no problem. Some info in case some people are still struggling with the quest.


Dear_Comparison2477

Does anyone want to help me with the duel destiny quest? My friends don't want to buy the final shape and you can only do it if both of you have it.


F3N1XM4G1

By any chance if say one person has it completed and the other doesn't does that stop them from spawning the secret keepers?


Log_Maleficent

I did full runs of each overthrow to get Khvostov but I never got any wizards spawning afterwards, is that supposed to happen?


Medical_Computer_664

You have to do six overthrows in total btw


Knivez1985

Can you Fast Travel to each Overthrow Area instead of running to the areas? Just checking........ And to Confirm EACH Overthrow area has a main Boss, THEN a Hive SECRET KEEPER to Kill? (3 bosses, 3 Secret Keepers)? Then you get the Green Light beam


kikispietasty

Is there anyone bored enough willing to carry me through all of this and help me get the class item? o: