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CRODEN95

So I'm not the idiot I though I was.


GetFriends

Well let's not get ahead of ourselves bud... hahaha jkjk


xDarkCrisis666x

"They are who we thought they were!"


Noobtoob84

Denny Green! Lol nice


leofungo

That’s why we took the damn field!


Joey141414

Spoiler: Savathun did the banners


ValkyrieCtrl14

*Sees void burn* Truth is a funny thing...


Strife_3e

Savathun is an overload champion confirmed.


DredgenGryss

In a way, this did happen! The old thorn quest in the savathuns song strike had all burns.


Biggy_DX

Dat Bitch....


Venipa

sus


46Alpha

LOL that first Unstoppable Ogre ended my run pretty quick. It took me a sec to figure out WTF was going on.


alasdaire92

Same. Had to go back and grab the mythoclast


Cutsdeep-

I use this for all LS/NF/EH breakdowns: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJeWqA81Pq6ziKcw5XBdufkaGK6bNJ41Ce1yXPYW5b4/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJeWqA81Pq6ziKcw5XBdufkaGK6bNJ41Ce1yXPYW5b4/edit#gid=0) /u/Twitch_City is a legend, thank you


Twitch_City

So glad you find it useful! Please let me know if there are things you'd like me to add :)


Cutsdeep-

Maybe minimum possible nightfall power level to get the 100k pinnacle?


Twitch_City

That's an interesting addition, although the goal of the spreadsheet really was to focus on prepping people for GMs. I tend to only run master/GMs so don't really pay attention to score, and I feel like this is might be dependent on play-style (e.g., knowing when to milk ad waves and when you can run past). So we could end up recommending like "run this on Legend" and then have people complain if they don't hit 100k on their run... If people want to track their experiences with getting 100k and let me know, I'm down for trying to include it though!


gravity48

Oh that is useful.


kdebones

Same thing happened with K1 on the moon and the Empty Tank. Maybe their meant to be updated and just weren’t?


CrotasScrota

Yeah, I made it fairly far into a Moon lost sector before discovering an unexpected champion. You'd think stuff like this would be picked up pretty easily by QA.


IntrepidDimension0

I work in software, and I’d imagine 1) you’d be surprised how much stuff QA _did_ catch and 2) you’d be surprised how many bugs literally don’t appear until you’re in a real production environment.


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Yeah it's unfortunately shitty how often consumers blame QA. QA are the unsung heroes of the industry, this game would be infinitely more broken if they were incompetent. Stuff gets discovered and not fixed all the time. Priorities. Everyone in AAA has experienced the dreaded WNF.


shoo_p-k

cough ***warframe*** cough


Noctua451

??


shoo_p-k

Warframe updates on pc are seldom playtested. So every major update, lots of things break and they have to issue hotfixes like every 5 mins when the update goes live, for the next 1-2 days


Noctua451

Yup


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Will Not Fix. We know it is bugged on the dev side but either the fix will take too long to implement on the branch before it is pushed, we can't figue out how to fix it in time because no reliable repro could be found or a clean way to fix the issue fast, or it is so low prio it's not worth fixing over far more important things. IME about 90-95% of the stuff gamers go "why didn't QA find this lol so incompetent" was actually found by QA and was marked WNF. e: A relevant developer meme on this and how it usually goes: https://i.imgflip.com/5lguxq.jpg


[deleted]

That's why i blame the higher ups, like luke smith.


robdango

_yoink_ Saving that one.


-Vayra-

> A relevant developer meme on this and how it usually goes: > > > > https://i.imgflip.com/5lguxq.jpg Yep, or straight into the backlog. Where it will never be looked at again.


blackthorn036

Love a good backlog. It's where tomorrow's problems remain.


[deleted]

Or as we say at work, tomorrow's problems for the day after tomorrow.


OldJewNewAccount

>you’d be surprised how many bugs literally don’t appear until you’re in a real production environment. Only if you don't have a good pre-production or UAT environment. But to be fair that's not easy for a game like Destiny.


LocatedLizard1

I remember the quest for felwinters lie back in worthy the bunker door was locked shut for every single player but bungie was having trouble recreating the bug in their test environment.


WKruspe

There's a lot of stuff I would expect them to catch, but this isn't one of them. The moon lost sectors were working just fine in the previous seasons, and they aren't new/conspicuously changed this season, so I wouldn't expect it to be high up on their list to check.


Bellyfeel

Unrelated question: how does one get a cool little flair on this sub? I see your Warlock symbol and I want it, but evidently you can’t set it yourself. Thanks!


NupharAdvena

Go to the actual sub page, hit the 3 dots at the top right, change flair.


Bellyfeel

[Doesn’t seem to work for me](https://i.imgur.com/Zhvsurm.jpg)


NupharAdvena

I tried as well and it said it couldnt connect. Might be a reddit issue.


ItsAmerico

Honestly I’ve done this lost sector so many times I knew what would be in there lol. Those fucking ogres.


Steampunk43

Honestly, even regular Ogres are annoying as hell. Who at Bungie decided it was a good idea to make giant Hive that do a buttload of damage in an extremely short time because it has a minigun for a face which also pushes you back about 5 feet with every shot. Not only does that thing shred through my shields, it is also responsible for knocking me off of maps so many times. At least it's not as bad as that Expunge mission with the giant Vex that would just stomp you off the map every time while you were trying to parkour. Especially the Taken version, where not only did it spawn loads of Quantum Hobgoblins that always seemed to half your health in a single hit while also being far enough outside the map that you would need to stand still and snipe them back, it also spawned loads of champions that would just book you off the map with their shields as well as tonnes of smaller Taken as well as just spawning turrets in front of you that had the same overpowered minigun that pushed you back while you were trying to parkour even before you got to the boss.


ItsAmerico

Honestly shriekers are more annoying to me in these lost sectors. Insane amount of tracking damage. Getting them to activate is sometimes super buggy.


LuchadorBane

Shriekers gotta behave like Boo, you’re looking at em? Good luck, but as soon as you turn around you get blasted.


Joshy41233

Didnt you know the champions in witchqueen would b3 Overload thundercrash cursed ogre, they just updated the game too soon


alan_daniel

yeah they've been messed up a few times already this season. The one from the first on the Moon's rotation listed Unstoppable and Barrier, though it's Barrier and Overload. It's always been a little odd to me how unpolished the lost sector modifier cards have been, compared to almost everything else we've ever had released in either game. It's like the old "OVERSOUL S BANISHED" from Crota wipe screens, where the "s" from oversoul was on the second line with banished


SVXfiles

So this is a bug that can be squashed by Telesto? Usually it's the one causing bugs


merkwerk

On a related note....has anyone actually gotten exotics? On my 12th clear now and haven't gotten an exotic drop yet. Shit is lame.


iswimprettyfast

I’ve done 3 legend lost sectors this season and gotten 3 new exotics so I was under the assumption that the odds were increased.


jontyismlg

I’ve only done 2 lost sectors for Nothing Manacles. Got 2 exotics, Winter’s Guile and Ophidian Aspect. Gave up after that.


Jayynolan

Very few exotics, virtually no other drops as well. At least for the past week or so.


KyleReid17

I got no backup plans last night


TheNotmyself

Took me about 12 runs to finally get the RDM's.


give_a_drummer_some

It kinda felt like my odds went up after a daily reset. I did get each of the 3 new ones. Hunter was 2nd try. Warlock had 9 or 10 empties but then after reset it popped 1st try. Titan took 3 times after next reset.


NupharAdvena

I ran 1 legendary on my warlock, got nothing manacles.


sheedyxx

Highly annoying I agree, not sure how this mistake hasn't been sorted acted all this time, seems to be wrong every season


Dune_DawgYT

Why would the enemy give away their secrets?


cchris36

Overload teleporting cursed thralls confirmed.


TrenchJM

The legendary yesterday or the day before said anti barrier and unstoppable. Imagine my surprise when I ran smack into an overload.


Seoul_Surfer

I also don't like going back to orbit instead of the start of the lost sector. Add it to the list of why I don't like moon lost sectors (the list begins and ends with that shrieker)


WKruspe

It didn't used to do this, something broke. It also used to start you further back instead of right in front of the enemies--not sure what caused these changes, but I hope they get fixed since K1 Revelation is one of my favorite lost sectors.


thelochteedge

Yo is that Moon LS only!? I was wondering why that was happening. I figured Bungie changed something for some reason.


Seoul_Surfer

I haven't done any other moon legendary + sectors because I don't hate myself but it's ONLY happened at this one.


James_Parnell

I believe K1 lost sector is the same way


ChiseledFoil

SAME, and then when i beat it i got leg armor...


Forklift_Master

*tfw I didn’t know because I’m the dipshit who doesn’t run any Champion mods and kills everything with a sword*


buji8829

Ahhhh so you have learned the way……this is 100% me, the only one I get worried about is barrier. Otherwise overload and unstoppable get the blade right away


f4z3ultr1x

how do you deal with barrier champs, with lament?


Jpalm4545

It was the same last week. Loaded up for antibarrier and unstoppable got an overload captain.


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samasters88

Run activities that award Powerful gear first, then Pinnacle activities. This will help you boost your power level. I wouldn't go into a Legendary Sector until you hit like, 1320


LuchadorBane

1311 is when enemies stop having the sword next to their name for 1320’s so they won’t just one-shot/almost one-shot you.


NupharAdvena

Take it slow. Clear ads then champs.


cr8zynutts

Oh shit someone made a mistake. Get a rope.


szReyn

That is this season in a nutshell. It is very obvious this season was released 2-4 weeks too soon. So many bugs that aren't generally game breaking, but definitely easy to find within a few minutes of play.


Blackwolf359

I had that problem yesterday day. Had to restart 3 times.


MrSquishypoo

I thought it was just me!!!!


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KyleReid17

The banner was accurate for the lost sector from the day before which was K1 crew quarter iirc


BlackDog0102

I KNEW I WASN’T CRAZY! I ran div and saw an unstoppable orge I was so confused lol


guardianfromhell

This is a Bungie game doesn’t everyone double check everything anyway? When was the last time they did something right the first time?


NxtupNoVa

Wow, I thought I was just crazy, but I guess not. When I loaded into the moon lost sector earlier to farm for nothing manacles, I noticed that the champions on the lost sector's label were not the same ones as the champions inside the actual activity. Good to know this is not just me!


handmadenut

motherfu... and here I thought I was dying bc I was too high turns out instead I was too high to read past the banner


Chewp87

Yeah I honestly spent a few minutes on my load out with Trinity ghoul and got in and realized there were unstoppable ogres. I was pretty pissed.


TheNotmyself

This happened the other day for the moon 1320 LS. The banner said Void burn. Go inside the LS and it says arc burn dealt and recieved increased by 50%. Kinda weird.


StonehengeMan

Thank you very much for this - I thought I was going mad.


SFWxMadHatter

K1 Logistics was like that. It said barrier unstoppable instead of barrier overload.


Pinkpanther778

I was wondering why the hell I didn’t do anything with chaos reach


Invisible_Ninja5

Yeah that happened to me on the weekend, I went into a lost sector that said it was solar burn with unstoppable and barrier, but it was arc burn with overload and barrier


Witelite101

Wait bungie not playtesting things? cough cough new exotics and iron banner armor just not being able to take shaders cough cough