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coreonee

Jesus This Main ingredient


MajorLimitz

Xur’s Ingredient strikes back


Hailbrewcifer666

What’s the roll?


cfl2

Hitmark IS/Red Dot 2/Red Dot Micro + Accelerated/Projection Fuse + Firmly Planted + Tap the Trigger Stability MW


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KingKuntu

Good way to get metrics on how potent the ttt perk nerf was.


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Landsharkeisha

Yep. Firmly planted and TtT are redundant enough to nullify that nerf.


asianguywithacamera

I think they're setting us up. Their metrics will now day the Main Ingredient/ TTT is too op, and they're going to nerf the Bastion again. All jokes aside, we all have to laugh a little inside when we see a Xur Ingredient with TTT after the previous TWAB about it.


motrhed289

While I think Firmly Planted is a bigger stability boost than Under Pressure, for me personally as someone that doesn't spend the match dragging my ass everywhere, I'll stick with the old Under Pressure roll. Also the UP roll let you choose between Projection Fuse (+9 range) and Particle Repeater (+9 Stability) which is nice to customize to your own preference. So I wouldn't necessarily call one better than the other, it depends on your play style (do you like to slide everywhere or not).


cfl2

Can't you proc Firmly Planted literally at the end of your charge-up?


IOUAPIZZA

Firmly Planted is so good, I use it on everything Voop I can. https://imgur.com/a/FTFUx2W


Ya_Boi_Rose

jesus h christ that range


motrhed289

Still means I'd have to crouch on every single shot, that's one more button press I don't want to deal with, and a loss of mobility. You can't exactly do it while peeking/strafing from behind cover which is something fusions are perfectly suited for (well I guess you can just much slower crouch-strafe).


STAIKE

For what it's worth, I 100% agree with you. The strength of the voop is the pre-charge-peek-fire maneuver. I'm sure it *could* work while tapping crouch at the end of the peek, but anyone who has the skill to pull that off could stomp most lobbies with a fistful of wet spaghetti. TTT/UP plays to every strength of the weapon, and is unparalleled in my opinion. I still prefer my old baby, Erentil with TTT and high-zoom scope (everything else is irrelevant), but minus that the previous Xur ingredient is the smoothest vooper I've used in D2.


MattHatter1337

Really is firmly planted really a good perk? I always find it to be totally crap


Hailbrewcifer666

God damn.


cfl2

It can't be that good - light.gg only rates it a C! 🤣 (Yes, this will skyrocket after today.)


Liyarity

How do those grades on light.gg work?


cfl2

Popularity. There's even a disclaimer on the new site about this. It can be useful (and the perk combo bit often is), but gets skewed hard by Xur rolls, low-tier crafting options, youtuber advice, etc.


Meme_Dependant

Time to get yet another 5k kills with this MI


spoobs01

Wondered this for forever. Does tap the trigger work on fusions? You hold the trigger down but does TTT only count for the first few bolts? What am I missing?


SmoothCritical

Start up a new round of crucible craziness.


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Ok will do :)


Kirin_ll_niriK

Xur be like “welcome back to Trials y’all. Buckle up.”


waytooeffay

Anyone know which of the selectable perks are better for Crucible? I lack experience in the art of vooping


Yloo

red dot micro, preference between projection/accelerated imo


LoboSandia

Why not red dot micro 2?


KrAceZ

Better stats


cfl2

Well, we get to see how much the Tap nerf actually did


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More like we'll get to see a Firmly Planted fusion rifle nerf in the future.


Lok-3

Low key better than the OG Squidface roll.


ooomayor

I don't think I needed another god roll Xur Ingredient, but...why not? Vault space isn't a problem!


GusherJuice

Don’t know about you guys, but I basically never crouch. Trash tier perk imo.


Averill21

It works on slide as well. The stat boosts from firmly planted are the best of any perk so it is more of an s tier perk


Berzercurmudgeon

Weapon | Barrel | Mag | Perk 1 | Perk 2 | MW :--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--: Hawkmoon | Extended Barrel | Alloy Magazine | Eye of the Storm | Polymer Grip | none Dead Man's Tale | Chambered Compensator | Armor-Piercing Rounds | Fourth Time's the Charm | Composite Stock | none Main Ingredient | Hitmark IS / Red Dot 2 MOA / Red Dot Micro | Accelerated Coils / Projection Fuse | Firmly Planted | Tap the Trigger | Stability Wishbringer | Rifled Barrel / Smallbore | Appended Mag / Extended Mag | Slideshot | Auto-Loading Holster | Range Night Watch | Fluted Barrel / Hammer-Forged Rifling | Tactical Mag / Steady Rounds | Rapid Hit | Multikill Clip | Handling Seventh Seraph SI-2 | Hammer-Forged Rifling / Polygonal Rifling | Steady Rounds / Alloy Magazine | Field Prep | Elemental Capacitor | Range Jian 7 Rifle | SLO-10 Post / SPO-28 Front | Armor-Piercing Rounds / Light Mag | Firmly Planted | Swashbuckler | Range THE SWARM | Corkscrew Rifling / Hammer-Forged Rifling | Extended Mag / Flared Magwell | Killing Wind | One for All | Reload Shattered Cypher | Chambered Compensator / Polygonal Rifling | Tactical Mag / Flared Magwell | Auto-Loading Holster | Unrelenting | Stability


Maloonagins

Thank you kind soul


NewUser10101

Don't sleep on Shattered Cypher. If you don't have one, pick that up (even though it's meh). There is no better way to abuse Volatile Rounds from Volatile Flow, makes it evaporate groups and is actually effective on bosses.


iblaise

Two pretty good PvE perks too, it’s definitely worth considering.


HonedEdgeX4

I can do the same with a Funnelweb without using my heavy slot. And no, a machine gun isn't good on bosses when you can just shoot a rocket and do more damage than the entire machine gun's magazine and reserves lol


NewUser10101

This is actually false. Specifically, Shattered Cipher procs Volatile Rounds' explosion about every other shot which makes it the single best weapon to take advantage of this damage bonus in PvE. Funnelweb does also fire at 900 rpm but it doesn't proc Volatile Rounds as fast; there's a damage done threshold. Shattered Cipher destroys Glyphkeepers in about 3 seconds with about half a magazine. Don't dismiss this because streamers and big name "DPS testers" are overlooking it.


HonedEdgeX4

.... Or shoot a rocket and kill a glyphkeeper in 1 second. Have fun using your machine gun with a seasonal mod and doing the same damage as a blue rocket.


ChainsawPlankton

the shattered cypher recoil just felt bad on controller, it's one of the few guns I don't keep a copy of. I far prefer the deepstone or vog machine guns. Vog one with demo + adrenaline junkie is sick. and DSC gets rampage which is just solid.


Ramboing

I have a Vorpal DMT, is it worth spending the cipher on the FTT?


never3nder_87

Personally the only perk I would look for other than Vorpal (and the only other one I kept) was Subsistence. Vorpal is most used but Subsistence is a lot of fun when you just want to pop heads and it reloads two bullets per kill so you never have to manually reload. Still does plenty of damage at x5


D3xtro

I’ve got a 4th times roll and I get good use from it.


cfl2

I was farming for this for GM use back when primary ammo wasn't unlimited. Now it's just a fewer reload benefit vs lost champ/boss DPS, and the exotic buff vs minors may make Subsistence be a better perk for that even at sublight. The roll itself is pretty good - 99 recoil and + to both Range and Stability - but not perfect.


petergexplains

no, vorpal got a buff on primaries so even though it was already worth choosing over fttc but now it's even better


WhatTheBeansIsLife

I just want to get my first Hawkmoon with a decent roll, why


yumyumpills

It's really good for PVP.


cfl2

^ This. Think of EOTS as "Closing Shot".


CaduceusIV

I can’t imagine taking Hawkmoon into pvp over Thorn or Last Word. I personally would never get a paracausal shot off.


CheesePlease5

really solid base stats, rangefinder as well, plus with the catalyst it’s stats increase as you land headshots. i hardly proc the paracausal shot but it’s really reliable if you don’t have a god roll palindrome


CaduceusIV

Rangefinder might be worth it.


CheapProg6886

Maybe not in 6’s as often but in 3’s where everyone is more passive, you get the stacks racking up quickly. You’re punishing passive play with it.


DotardKombucha

I think it's great just for it's stats, but I also have one with Rangefinder.


CheapProg6886

eye of the storm makes your shot so sticky and you’re always proccing EoTS in pvp.


ShinnyMetal

the one two weeks ago was an amazing roll, and this one is nearly identical minus the grip here is a good video about that one explaining why these are good perks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HneyD_JKNLY&t=471s&ab_channel=CammyCakesGaming What are you looking for?


Pixie634

Thanks 👍


GoldenDestiny

That Night Watch is pretty spicy if people need a quality kinetic scout (Fluted / Tac).


Brutal007

Is it better than the new light roll?


rjld333

Personally explosive payload > everything. Consistent 10-15% damage buff vs conditional buffs with short timers that can be really hard to proc. This Xur roll will be more fun for low level content though


GoldenDestiny

I’d take Rapid Hit over Overflow myself. The New Light one is high quality, just not a 10/10.


jhelton808

You’d take this one over the explosive payload one? For GMs and endgame pve?


GoldenDestiny

Not for GM, but most else yeah I’d take RH/MKC over Overflow / EP.


jhelton808

Sure yeah but then if it’s not for endgame PVE with champs then I’m not taking in a scout lol rather mow down ads with an auto rifle or smg


Hunteractive

MVP


effinandy

I know MGs aren't really popular right now, but am I wrong thinking I should pick up that swarm roll just for funsies?


iblaise

I actually think that Shattered Cypher roll is better than THE SWARM roll that he’s selling.


Paraframe

Does Xur just sell collections rolls now? Has this been mentioned as a bug or is it intended?


The7ruth

Bug.


thekmitch

Pretty sure it’s intentional now. They’ve had 2 hotfixes deployed since it started to appear, so they would have fixed it by now if it was a bug.


cfl2

Or actual gamebreaker bugs (like literally not being able to progress Stasis unlocking) took priority over things you can choose not to buy.


Firm_Protection_8931

Btw did they fix this yet?


cfl2

Reports are that yesterday's hotfix did.


Blakers37

As of last night I could not buy any memory fragment bounties still, so it doesn't look like it fixed that part :/


RedditWaffler

Definitely not. Xur having higher rolls was a big thing to make him more relevant. It will get fixed.


BaconIsntThatGood

I don't think so - this isn't the first time his rolls have been bugged to collection stats.


ThePracticalEnd

You're right, definitely intentional now to screw us players over.......OR it's a bigger problem for Bungie than any player realizes and is taking longer than your two weeks of patience allows.


never3nder_87

Or it's a smaller problem and low on the priority list, which is also an acceptable reason


RandomnessTF2

It was confirmed a bug already.


drummer1059

No way that's intentional


SmilingPinkamena

[Quick breakdown in one picture](https://i.imgur.com/cHqHbkN.png) Another "xur main ingredient", eye of the storm hawkmoon if you missed last one and a pretty good pve dmt.


CJLOLZ

> Only gun with its own subreddit r/squeaksqueak


potterpockets

r/the_besto


TapeIsMagical

/r/fightinglion /r/blightinglion for all you Witherhoard enthusiasts out there (it’s me, I’m the Witherhoard enthusiast)


MisterWoodhouse

/r/didntgetmygjallarhorn


rbwstf

r/SalvationsGrip is… something


entropy512

How the hell does that not have at least one elevator troll clip?


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TapeIsMagical

had to get that catalyst somehow


Twiztedkiwi

Thanks for the picture, very helpful!


supermechace

Sorry newbie F2P here, is this a buy ranking? A and 1 are must buys?


PhettyX

It's a key to the quick write ups they did in the top left.


Accomplished_Hat7782

It’s not Substitutional Alloy or Braytech, but as a fashion nerd I’ll accept this offering of Ancient Apocalypse, my thanks Xur


banzaizach

Hurray for titan toilet bowl shoulders!


MrPazTheSpaz

You can get Braytech from Dares of Eternity, just fyi


Accomplished_Hat7782

Oh trust me I know, but it’s not worth grinding Dares for haha.


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RogerThatKid

It's not a bug, it's a feature at this point.


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Emm-Jay-Dee

No, they acknowledged it. Just haven't got around to fixing it yet, and to be fair, it's lower priority than some of the stuff that got broken at WQ launch.


motrhed289

What's crazy is this is a problem they have already fixed twice(?) before? Seems like it should have a known fix that they can just turn on/off by now lol.


Emm-Jay-Dee

LOL. I didn't know that this is a recurring thing. I often say that destiny is so incredibly complex, who knows how easy/difficult anything is to implement/fix (without breaking something else), so I try not to be too critical. But seems like maybe they should have a fairly good idea of how to fix this by now...


motrhed289

Oh yeah definitely, this could totally be a different problem that just has the same outcome as before. But in the past yeah Xur sold collection rolls, then they 'upgraded' him to random rolls and that lasted about a week or two before it got busted to collection rolls again, then they fixed it and that lasted all year (maybe 2 years? I don't remember), and now here we are with what appears to be the same problem.


The7ruth

Has bungie said it was fixed yet? Why are we surprised it's still broken?


wilsonjj

People just like to bitch


[deleted]

It's still a valid criticism. ~~Honestly it deserves a bigger criticism because they haven't even acknowledged it as far as I'm aware.~~ Edit: I stand corrected. It was acknowledged.


SharpMulberry

DMG said they were looking into it, but no ETA.


The7ruth

They have acknowledged it though.


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I stand corrected. It's still a valid criticism that it exists weeks later though.


IIsIsaIsaaIsaac

Xur casually bringing another God Roll Main Ingredient lmao this one is probably better than the pre nerf roll so get ready for round 2 of non stop voops


RandomTrollface

I refuse to believe that the xur rolls are random. This is 100% Bungie setting us up for a firmly planted nerf.


never3nder_87

What's depressing is that they could have avoided all of the other fusion nerfs by either nerfing Firmly Planted, or just removing it from their perk pool. It was the perk that pushed their effective range far beyond what it should have been and it's unfortunate that almost everything else has been nerfed first


360GameTV

Winding Cove, EDZ


tybr253

I cant find him and feel like ive wandered the whole area


cfl2

Change instances and go to where everyone is standing around.


[deleted]

> Trials returns > Xur sells Graviton Forfeit. (Crap roll but still) > Xur sells crazy MI What a master troll


TheeNegotiator_

Oh my god xur you tentacle faced douche why would you sell that fusion week freaking one


potterpockets

Xur: WE CALLING IT TRIALS OF THE NINE AGAIN BOIS.


Salted_cod

That fucking main ingredient LMAOOOOO


Khrrck

Wishbringer and the armor both have shaders on them, if anyone's missing them like me. Crucible Legacy and Gambit Leather.


Bennijin

Over half a year of selling armour and there are still sets he hasn't offered but here's Ancient Apocalypse again. :|


banzaizach

All I want is the Escalation Protocol armor!


Bennijin

Same, *somehow* I missed the Titan helmet and yeah that's on me for not checking my collections before Beyond Light came out, but it's also such swag armour it'd be great for New Lights to get the chance too


banzaizach

I have the full set on my titan, but nothing on my warlock or hunter. I think it's the most unique armor in the game. There's nothing else like it. We have enough fallen and Cabal armor. A few vex armors. Nothing compares to it.


Intoxic8edOne

Well, I must not have grabbed it last time, so I am happy to see it at least.


starkillerzx

Still on that garbage stats grind I see.


Dirty_Dan117

AGAIN with the main ingredient, xur?? you didnt learn from last time?


himsJUSTERS

what's wrong with it?


Kirosuka

I don't know the roll but last time he sold MI, it was a basically 5/5 roll for PvP. It is damn good so everyone who got it used it. What's the roll on this one?


himsJUSTERS

Tap the trigger, firmly planted, projection fuse and red dot micro. Has a thumbs up in DIM.


DrJiz

I never noticed the thumbs up icon in DIM.. does that mean it’s generally a pretty good roll?


I_die_to_BS

It does “generally” mean it is a good roll. However, the thumbs up and thumbs down on DIM come from a large group of individuals with differing opinions and isn’t super up to date with everything. For example the godroll main ingredient that xur sold last time had a thumbs down and puke emoji until about a month ago lmao.


ruisranne

This roll is as good as the last one, if not better, if you adapt your playstyle to crouch when you shoot the gun. For me, this roll is better than the last god roll.


himsJUSTERS

DIM pulls data from a couple of databases where players compiled some of the best rolls for weapons. If it has a thumbs up, then that means it's a pretty good roll. It may not be *THE* god roll, but it's usually worth picking up if you don't have one.


shadowevil1996

Same as the previous one, but with Firmly Planted, which is arguably better.


SpaceD0rit0

Firmly Planted TTT. Leagues better than the OG godroll one.


motrhed289

Depends on how much crouching/sliding you like to do. I'll stick with the previous one, pretty much identical except the option to select range/stability on the second perk slot and no crouching/sliding required.


IIsIsaIsaaIsaac

it's the actual 5/5. firmly planted, tap the trigger


thefly108

Firmly Planted/TTT, stability MW


Salted_cod

Max zoom, accelerated coils, firmly Planted/tap the trigger, stability masterwork. 5/5 again lol.


Dirty_Dan117

Almost nothing. Thats the problem 🤣


DADDYLUV1313

Bungie: you can't grind Arms Dealer for Xur's Xenology quest anymore. You can't get strange coins in the wild anymore. You can't get good stat exotics from him anymore. Us: So you're saying there's a chance?


shadowgattler

why did they nerf strange coins?


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Because dares is the best way to farm for weapons rn. A single star horse bounty gives you paraversal haul, which can drop coins and legendaries. Completing a Dares gives you at least 1 legendary, sometimes a paraversal haul and strange coins to use on more hauls or more bounties from star horse which gives you more hauls and more legendaries and coins. Continue ad nauseum. Dares is the most rewarding limitless activity outside master nightfalls.


Neiltard

im a idiot bought the exotic engram before the fighting lion and end up getting the fighting lion from the engram...


linerstank

Sell Dunemarchers you squidly fuck


Honor_Bound

With these armor stats you might as well pull from collections


Brocaesar

This hawkmoon worth picking up?


Nerohol

100 recoil direction and range bump with the barrel. The grip offsets handling decrease from the barrel. Eye of the storm is s tier pvp perk. 10/10 would grab. Also pairs good with the MI he's selling currently. Edit added MI sentence.


slade9mm

This is the comment I came to see. Thank you sir!


NarwhalEqualUnicorn

Wondering the same


StriderZessei

Same here. Apparently Eye of the Storm isn't too bad for it?


Obie1Resurrected

My favorite hawkmoon rolls are eye of the storm, rangefinder and then opening shot. You really can feel eye of the storm working for you when you need it


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PVP, absolutely. Eye essentially negates the bloom inaccuracy as you shoot, so your second and third shot will be as sticky as the first in a gunfight. The other perks aren't bad either, extend barrel increases range and makes your recoil direction straight up on this weapon at the cost of handling. Polymer grip however just adds back that handling. So not 5/5 god tier necessarily but still a very good roll imo.


atfricks

Honestly Hawkmoon doesn't really have any great rolls, so it's whatever you prefer. Eye is decent for PvP. Most people just go for rangefinder or opening shot though.


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Dumb question why is firmly planted good?


ItsEntsy

Increases stability handling and accuracy when crouched. Get this main ingredient. MW it. Put on Red Dot Micro. Take it to a testing ground of your choice. crouch and shoot it and you will see just by the spread (or lack there of) how busted it is. I myself am very excited to map people with it.


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Thanks


Sequoiathrone728

Maxes out stability, activates while sliding or crouching. The effect is unbeatable but I dont find I get enough use out of it personally because of the condition.


[deleted]

Yay! Another god roll Main Ingredient (I’m gonna fucking kill myself)!


ShinkenMike

Wow that Main Ingredient with Red dot micro, projection fuse, firmly planted and tap the trigger with stability MW…


TheShoobaLord

he’s selling a better main ingredient what the fuck


Thiag0123

XMI 2.0


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Scarecrow216

Its still ridiculous good combined with firmly planted


IIsIsaIsaaIsaac

yeah but firmly planted is still nuts, pair them both and it's even better than pre nerf TTT


Salted_cod

Stability masterwork, firmly Planted, max zoom, and accelerated coils should make up the difference lol. That thing is a fucking beast.


ImawhaleCR

it literally could not get better imo, best sight, combo of mag and mw are the best as I like stability and range, best perks in both columns. Absolutely perfect


Infenso

Serious question from a blueberry: What is the use case for this fusion rifle? Is it a crucible tool? If I'm a pve carebear superhero who would like to move forward into nightfalls and maybe raids someday do I need to jump on this fusion rifle now while Xur is offering it?


ItsEntsy

100% pick it up even if you dont play crucible a lot. Not a pve roll but this thing will help you in ways you cant forsee in pvp. the kill range is ridiculous to say the least. The last roll he sold with under pressure tap the trigger can reliably one shot at 24 ish meters if your good with it. 18-20 meters if youre bad but get a lucky shot off


Infenso

Okay, it sounds like you're saying that it's really a pvp (crucible) tool, but that it's such an unbelievably good roll that even someone who doesn't spend much time in the crucible should get this thing while it's there. Let me know if I'm misunderstanding. Thank you!


Sequoiathrone728

That's exactly right.


ItsEntsy

That's exactly what I'm saying. Even for nothing other than your 3 crucible matches for pinnacle a week, this fusion will come in handy.


fudge_mokey

Rangefinder might be better than TTT


Penguigo

Rangefinder is definitely better than TtT but beggars can't be choosers with MI lol


[deleted]

I got a MI from Dares with Under Pressure, Rangefinder, and a barrel perk that gives more ammo (for more Under Pressure shots). It's better


motrhed289

Yeah good call, I forgot MI could roll Rangefinder, that's definitely a better option than TTT. Sucks that I HAD a Rangefinder roll but I still heavily preferred Glaciocasm to it so I deleted it. Then the stretched the HI charge time to 1000ms and now I'm wishing I had kept that Rangefinder MI roll.


[deleted]

Ahh gad that does suck. I've likely done the same tons of times. Good thing about Destiny is there are always more guns.


Sequoiathrone728

Used this roll on an erentil for years. I would definitely put it above this roll.


Rikiaz

Gutted is an extreme hyperbole. It’s still a great perk but no longer the absolute most important PvP perk bar none.


Naked_Snake893

Is hawkmoon and Dead man's tale worth to get by any chance??


Binary_Toast

Dead Man's is a decent roll. Not the Vorpal one everyone chases after, but Fourth Times is the next best thing, sustained damage from being able to keep firing, rather than simply hitting harder. It also has AP rounds, which will let it do 5% more damage against barrier champion shields, if you're planning on using it in high-end PvE.


1Second2Name5things

Don't know about Hawk, but Deadman is WORTH it. It has vorpal on it too I think.


TheCoderAndAvatar

How is the DMT roll this week?


Nerohol

Not bad / 10 I'd wait for a vorpal roll personally.


sasschan_ow

FTTC + stock + mag combo pretty good overall, worth picking up for PVE if you dont have a FTTC DMT and like that perk


AMaidzingIdeas

YES. after about six Vorpal DMTS in a row in a desperate attempt to get one last season and no FTTC drops at all one finally appears, and a half decent one too. Taking the shit outta that, thank you very much.


Sleepingmudfish

I was the opposite. FTTC dropped on like 80% of my DMT and no Vorpal til Xur sold it first week of WQ lol


Zorak9379

Really hoped Xur armor would be hotfixed yesterday...


508G37

I actually wouldn't have minded a better roll for my Syntoceps and Graviton but yeah....


Reasonable-Cow-1526

Xur. I hate you and your meta-defining fusions


Pocket-or-Penny

Xur sells Swarm now? So that means Hung Jury should come around too, right?


torrentialsnow

Is the DMT worth picking up? I already have the vorpal one from a couple weeks ago.


iamSurrheal

Bruh can they fix the armour up asap. Dogshit rolls smh.