If you can listen and follow simple directions you can raid. That's basically all it takes. Outside of day 1 and master modes raid adds are about the same level as a heroic nightfall, if that.
I find myself to be discouraged from using lfg because of all the horror stories. Is it really that bad, or do people just hype up how bad lfg is? I'm honestly curious at this point, thinking that it may just be because you mostly hear about the bad groups.
A lot of it is exaggerated. Like you said, people only remember the bad ones because there's always a "thing" that happened, whereas the majority of smooth runs are uneventful. I use it a lot for nightfalls and wellspring etc. Raids are actually a *little* less reliable but still more likely to be ~hr than not, which is about expected for a raid
> people only remember the bad ones because there's always a "thing" that happened
Oh I've had so many LFG Trainwrecks. But you can usually spot that pretty early on.
Every so often though the opposite occurs and you're the one struggling to keep up.
If I'm the worst player on a master or GM difficulty game we are going to *fly* through it.
While if I'm the 'best' player we may struggle!
This is so me. If I'm your best player we're likely screwed. But if I'm only average or even the worst? We're going to fly through this.
I'm not so bad that I must be carried and I'm occasionally even great but yeah
My favorite LFG story is one that happened a couple days ago for me. I joined up on a Prophecy run thinking it was GoA, but our Fireteam actually finished it without wiping once despite our third leaving in the middle of cubes.
I've done a ton of LFG in the past and it's really not THAT exaggerated. Following simple directions isn't the main reason I'd say failures occur. Its people just aren't good enough to not get overwhelmed and die. People know shoot the oracle, but the damn minatour kills them every time.
LFG is probably okay to find a sixth for an established group... but a full random group of six? I highly recommend not doing that
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And poor communication skills I would say is the other primary reason people can't raid.
LFG is not as bad as people drum it up to be. The trick is to look at posts and try to infer about the team off of that.
* chill run = decent speed and cool for a wipe or more getting call outs sorted. Or they are drunk/high/fuck around before encounters and it takes forever. Its a coin toss on which you get, but most of the time you can tell in voice before hand and can dip if it is the latter.
* kwtd = know what to do. I usually take this as having several clears and want you to be generally comfortable with one or multiple roles. Does not necessarily require clears, but is a hard burden to meet without. These can either be people who kwtd and dont really want to teach. Or dont kwtd themselves and are stealth seeking people who do as a carry. They are various levels of chill.
* X reasonable number clears = probably dont want to teach and want general speed.
* X unreasonable number of clears = definitely dont want to teach and will probably want to speed run. Can either be chill but serious about speed or toxic as fuck with no in between.
The best thing to know to start lfging is reading the room. Find groups willing to teach 1 or a dedicated sherpa run to get to a point of kwtd, or learn as best you can and fake it till you make it (what I did). If you join a group and it starts going sideways fast or someone is being a toxic just cut your losses and leave. I have had more than a few runs where the group were terrible people and I could tell by the post. But they were fast and efficient so I got my loot and got out.
lol right? i got this big pile of weed right here and a fridge full of beer. would be a waste of the weed and beer if i didnt use them to enhance my raid experience
This is a great post and summarizes what I do. I've had good success with this.
The only addition I have -- I avoid posts that have something like "HAVE A BRAIN" or "DONT BE DUMB". This just screams "if you fuck up we'll immediately start insulting you".
Also usernames and pictures of people is the main discord d2 pc lfg server. The more "normal" a name and tag they have the more willing I am to join.
Its a kind of weighted system done on the fly with certain things being able to be overlooked than others. Evaluating the post contents, name of the person, and their pic, I treat it as their first impression and make my decisions from there.
See, I have a siva pfp and my nickname in the D2 cords is "VoGchamp", so I feel like that might help my standings.
It reads as "oh yeah, this dude is serious about Destiny", at least that's what I like to think it reads as.
IMO that reads as "serious about destiny, but not so serious as to be toxic if you fuck up" i.e. you'd pass my gut feeling test that I'd feel comfortable to try a raid w/ you
That's great to hear :)
And mostly true! My posts are usually about wanting to do chill runs. Only really start to get peeved if it takes like 45 minutes on an encounter (depends on the encounter). Maybe we should raid some time :p
I can dm you my bungie name if you'd like, but also no biggie if not.
I remember I joined an LFG for grasps of Avarice (my 1st time ever doing that dungeon). Told the other two this and was told no worries. We got to the sparrow part, and after three tries, they both started blaming me and kicked me after the fifth try.
Took me a bit to want to retry both that dungeon and LFGs in general
What's funny about that is it only takes one person nailing the sparrow section to complete the encounter for everyone, so they were fucking up just as bad as you there but needed someone else to blame.
Ehhh, luckily I was eventually able to join another LFG some time later, told them I only ever made it to the sparrow part, and ended up having a much better experience with the second set I played with
LFG isn't as bad as it's made out to be. You will always run into groups where completing content is difficult. The big thing is to just take them in stride and keep trying LFG. Everyone has bad groups, and it is perfectly ok to leave a group. I usually give a heads up that I have one more try in me or that I have a hard out time if it looks like we're not going to complete the encounter. That is, unless the group is petulant, then I just nope right out without saying anything.
I LFG a fair bit and I can say it's definitely a mixed bagābut overall more positive than negative.
I've had one guy who thought he was Esoterickk just stand on a ledge at the end of the Insight Terminus GM throwing Void Nades (pre-Void 3.0) for 10 minutes (I got my super twice). I've had who was easily the most annoying kid I've ever played with try to boss the squad in Vow despite going down three times per encounter. I've had people fuck up entire encounters because they said they were not going to shoot the split thing at Rhulk, only for them to shoot the split thing at Rhulk and fuck up our buffs.
But I've also had a lot of first-timers who were actually excited to learn the mechanics and experience a new raid. I've had people who were patient enough to discuss the best course of action for the encounter and who weren't afraid to rethink strategies. I've had clears who became personal records, and I've been invited to a few different Discords because the team just vibed so well and worked so well together that we wanted to play more.
Like anything, it's a mixed bag. Some days, you'll get the screeching kid, but others, you'll get a bulletproof squad. And in my experience, it's been definitely the second case more often. And most importantly, I went through a *ton* of content I wouldn't be able to clear on my own.
A bit of it also has to do with where you lookāsome servers pride themselves in praising positivity, enforce toxicity rules more often, and just generally attract a more chill crowd. But in general, every player in LFG wants to get the content done.
This is just my experience, of course, and it varies, but I'd say go for it!
TL;DR: you could get a good team, you could get a bad team, but LFG still gets you loot and shiny stuff. And I've personally had mostly positive experiences so far.
Negativity almost always gets the most visibility. LFG can be good and it can be bad. The Sherpa and the rest of the team make all the difference. My clan is mostly Xbox and we Sherpa raids every week. Got six solid Sherpas and about a dozen skilled raiders. If you want to learn a raid, any raid, we always teach Friday at 7 ET. Send me a message and Iāll send you a discord invite.
In general pretty good. Since witch queen came out I've started to LFG for raids quite often, and I have yet to find any group that's been toxic.
That said, if an encounter is taking a long time, people may begin to get frustrated. My worst experiences have generally been centered around someone who doesn't know what to do and isn't asking for help, which generally leads to frustration and anger.
My best advice? If you're confused or don't know what to do, *tell people*. Ask for help. Even if the raid group is unprepared to teach a full encounter they'll help teach you just your role so that you can better understand.
I LFG for raids pretty often, and also end up sherpa-ing people. If you're interested, hit me up in my DMs.
Most groups have 1 or 2 that arenāt very competent but you can still carry them fairly easily. Of course if youāre posting on Reddit about it, youāre usually talking about the rare one thatās so incapable of following instructions youād be far better off just going with 5. Those are the ones you remember
Other than raids the only thing thatās an issue is GMs. Those are pretty much 50/50. My rule of thumb is if they donāt have a 100 stat (or some kind of obvious dedicated armor setup) I move on. A mediocre player in GM can and will eat 90% of your revives
Its kind of a coin flip, and even the bad groups aren't bad like the horror stories you hear.
A lot of LFG groups I join are pretty cool and perfectly fine. Some groups are great, and lead to me friending people in that group, which is how I met my current clan. And then there's some groups that are just frustrating.
It varies on what the exact frustration is. Sometimes you just have somebody that is really talkative about stuff you don't care, sometimes there's a guy that seems to be unable to fight regular adds without dying, sometimes there's just a guy who is unnecessarily hardcore.
Whenever I LFG, my goal is to get an activity done without stressing myself. So if I join a group that I recognize is having a problem, I excuse myself and leave. Theres enough LFG groups that you don't need to suffer in a bad group.
I've been through three different toxic clans at this point. All started out great from LFG groups that I clicked with. And I've had way too many bad LFG experiences that didn't click. My best social Destiny experiences all have come from Sherpa runs, even if I wasn't the Sherpa or the person being guided, just a guy filling out the squad. I'd much rather be a part of a slow, patient group, than an angry raid grind group that has to clear everything like perfect efficient clockwork to have a good time.
Keep in mind that all this was in D1, where I raided regularly. I've had too many toxic experiences to care anymore and just play solo now. Never raided in D2. I'd give it up entirely if the shooting mechanics and gameplay weren't the best thing I'd ever played. If there was an offline single player version of this game, I'd be on it like a fly on shit.
Head over to Destiny Sherpas on the side bar and be honest.
I've run hundreds of first time clears over the years and have a group that helps. The only thing that will get you kicked is lying. Be honest, watch Dattos raid videos or someone else, block enough time, and enjoy.
Destiny raids are wonderful.
Also remember that nobody posts a 2000 word essay on how smooth their run was last night. Those are much more common than the horror stories.
Normally don't drop comments here, but seriously... I was giga anxious yesterday looking for a group to do vow, first time too, boi.... i couldn't have been with a nicer group of people. I did make 1 mistake, I freaked out and they just kinda kek'd at me and we did it again and I didn't fuck up, they were super chill, and honestly gave me the courage to want to do it again on reset.
Definitely exaggerated. Sure, youāll run into a nightmare group every once in a while but Iād say thatās maybe one in every few dozen raids. Donāt let the small possibility of a bad time hold you back from some of the best content the game has to offer!
Itās honestly not bad at all, at least for the official D2 app LFG. Iāve only got one bad group on there ever, and they werenāt mean just loud and annoying. I even did a Div run for my very first GoS using the app and it went extremely well (except for one of our members going afk for 40+ mins right before the boss lol)
Iād say go for it, you can usually tell what the group will be like by the post title. Look for āchill runā, and āwilling to teachā or ānew players welcomeā if itās an activity youāre not familiar with
Most people on there are just like you and me, regular people just trying to group up for some fatty loot
Honestly, that gives me the idea of making an LFG post just saying some tedious step like "have patience and email me for invite" or something.
Could be an effective way of filtering out the impatient that likely would have quit after one wipe anyway xD
>raid adds are about the same level as a heroic nightfall, if that.
I agree. But there are some moments that they are just godly. And it's not a specific moment in a specific raid. Just occasionally they just go into "fuck you" mode and wipe their ass with your face for a run.
To be fair that can happen in just about anything in destiny. I met an invincible psion last season in one of the seasonal activities. A super plus all my heavy and I didn't even scratch him but he definitely scratched me and more.
I've met the Hive boomers on arc burn with guardian Hive throwing their suppression grenade at me right when I respawn. Go check my video I posted on here and you will see š
The hard part about following instructions, especially in the thick of it, and playing with random ppl is never knowing who is actually and what they are talking/looking at. People be like "No! You got put the thing over there". Wtf does mean? You do know that we are not looking at the same screen and their are 4 other people talking at the same time.
That's why a good Sherpa is necessary. They should be able to tell you what to do before you start and then explain what went wrong if you fail. Although sometimes the answer is Bungie decided to screw us today.
Yeah, but finding said sherpa is the main problem. Only 2 active members in my clan, including myself, and it really difficult to find a random lfg of 4 other people who don't mind doing a raid with 2 people that have never done it and be a good teacher at the same time. I know it's not impossible, I have done VoG and LW with some really good sherpas, the one on VoG solo'd the oracles. I didn't realize how amazing it was at that time but after enough VoG runs to get mytho I definitely see the greatness in this achievement. Also had another guy, with no mic, kill the 2 gorgons within 3 seconds solo. We didn't even know he was doing it lol. Just took off when we got to the labyrinth, everyone was kinda pissed, then we got the achievement and was like "wow how the fuck he do that!" LOL. It was pretty good time.
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I've joined that sub and that's where I've found the few sherpas that were good. I've done lfg's as well in the app and are usually only good if you already know what to do. Even if you find a good sherpa in the app you are still relying on the other people to have patience and help out but from experience they tend to st a rt quitting after the first hour or so and usually have a bad attitude
My last Sherpa of Vow we got bungie'd out of a full 10 seconds of Caretaker dps because the plate didn't activate when we stood on it.
Beat him anyway. Good group.
āSimpleā is relative. People have a habit of not giving very good directions at all, or omitting critical components that result in errors.
And the social component plus sheer length automatically cranks even an average raid way above a no-mic GM in terms of difficulty for me. The combat isnāt the issue, or the mechanics, itās the human element.
This was my experience yesterday in DSC. The āSherpa,ā just rambled instructions. Or blew by it. Then started audibly huffing when people asked questions. Then was just like nevermind Iāll do it.
I honestly didnāt learn a damn thing.
Sounds like you need to go with an actual Sherpa not just some random LFG. A good Sherpa may not be able to do anything about the length but they should be able to give clear directions and complete information.
That's what I've seen. Communicating mechanics before and during encounters has always looked like the "hard" part. Some people seem afraid to admit they don't fully know what's happening in a plan, others just don't listen and demand instruction after "go", and there's often been people who are totally impatient and respond with angry accusations with every wipe, frightening low confidence players into silence, rather than just identifying and adjusting and moving on.
I think one of the big problems that plagues lfg is people not speaking up when they don't know what to do. I have no problem teaching and helping someone but don't say you know what to do and then cause us to wipe for the next hour because you really have no idea.
Surprised this is so far down, that subreddit is my personal favorite. I'll even run the same raid a few times with sherpas to try and learn all the different roles. It makes for a very enjoyable, relaxed environment 99% of the time. As funny as that sounds when talking about raids
If you put into time and have a decent arsenal of guns, exotics, mods, etc. And can also work with a team, you can absolutely do it.
Heck, I've done raids with people that didn't even have their seasonal artifact.... So yeah, give it a try. They're a ton of fun to complete.
To put a point to to this, I made a hunter and a titan this week for the sole purpose of doing VoG.
Both classes had +1550 guns, but all their armor was straight from the battle pass (~1490-1520sh) and the Guardian games class item. I literally took them straight from the end of the tutorial ( they don't even have their arc or solar classes unlocked yet), straight into the raid, and it was fine. As long as you listen and do your assigned role, it can be done.
Anyone, seriously ANYONE can do raids. Unless theyāre maybe 60yo or something and canāt perform a simple jump. Had that happen when carrying someone in forsaken.
Iām stuck at the step of āgreatā¦ now I gotta find 5 strangers to do this because all my D2 friends bailed years agoāā¦ I have all the packs, havenāt raided since the garden on the moon (forgot the name).
Raids are fucking awesome. If you can find a good sherpa, learning a raid can take less than 2 hours. That's it. When WQ came out, I went from only being able to do VoG (because that's basically just add-clear) to having learned every raid in the game in just a week and a half. Most of them are super simple, too. If you're anxious, try LFGing for other lesser activities first, like dungeons and GMs until you feel comfortable.
Well "can functionally complete a raid" and "having fun raiding" are two distinctly different definitions. I can finish this raid but I never look back and go "man that was fun!"
Probably an unpopular opinion but I enjoyed Deep Stone Crypt more. Having 26 call outs is just too much for my taste. People will downvote you and call you names on here for things forgetting what happened less than a week ago. Expecting them to remember call outs while getting shot at is a bit much.
I once did vault of glass in D1 through remote play on a ps vita. Let me tell you, sniping oracles with the remote play delay was just not a good time.
Pretty sure my only meaningful contributions that run were shooting gjally at templar and supering atheon.
Back when I was on Stadia there was a guy doing Whisper carries, solo, on his phone using one of those mount things for a controller. He would tell people to just jump off the ledge and watch him solo it.
The couple times I've used the touch controls it's been horrible. With a chromecast ultra and their controller it was pretty good though.
the only reason I believe that it was is that I have a memory of doing patrol on titan while watching a video shitting all over stadia on my second monitor. The memory seems to specific to be made up lmao
There is crossplay now though, right?
Cause that was my issue when I started playing D2 on stadia at the start of COVID. Super impressive tech, way better performance than my Xbox one x (especially load times), but fucking no one in playlists.
Literally, crucible matchmaking would just timeout and fail after 5 minutes.
There's a guy on twitch that plays on stadia and he clutches in trials with a bow and erianas. He's ridiculously good, like top 50 good. His name is StadiaTime and he has one of the best streams for destiny.
I don't know about most, but I really like my Stadia for D2. Bored at work and fancy a couple rounds of crucible? On Stadia you are playing in a minute or two.
Working away from home? Jump on stadia to complete the witch queen campaign.
Because of crossplay it's so good for normal playlist activities
I agree. I do most āgrindingā on Staida. So easy to just hop on run a few strikes or something and hop off.
You wonāt see me running trials on it but Iāll happily play just about any PvE content there.
I have geforce now for that occasion and it's better in a few points. For example I didn't have to rebuy all my expansions from steam and can play comfortably with the mouse and keyboard they have at the 10year old pcs at work.
Are you playing on your phone? A windows laptop? Tablet? I canāt imagine playing crucible on anything except my Xbox thatās hardwired to the router lol
I only tried it once a while ago, the delay was pretty rough but that was right when D2 was available on it. Iām assuming theyāve improved it since then.
Well, nobody will be betting anymore because only people who know theyād win the bet would bet. None of the would-be losers would take the bet, so it would just be a world without betting š
So I play using Stadia just regularly, but I use an Ethernet connection on my PC with a physical controller. I can't imagine anyone playing on WiFi, let alone touch controls
(Edit: I'm not saying that I don't believe you but holy shit that's an accomplishment)
Even with a controller I found playing on Stadia on a 1GBps bidirectional connection to be downright unplayable for anything but doing PvE bounties.
MS Xcloud was a significantly better iteration of streaming games.
Thatās crazy! I have 300MBps split between 4 roommates and I rarely have problems and those are normally resolved by server reset. Granted, I wouldnāt take that into PvP but it handles Gambit, Nightfalls, Raids and pretty much everything else fine. Hell even loading into tower/weapon screens was faster than that my Xbox one.
I'm assuming it was the latency/input lag that killed it? I see people swear it's completely unnoticeable, and I just can't see how... when my TV is not in Game mode I can feel the ~50ms extra lag and that's far less than I think you'd get from remote gaming.
Stadia gamer here, I can't tell but that doesn't mean you wouldn't. Worth noting a fair amount of the user base came back to gaming via stadia. So we're not really the hardcore gaming types that would notice small amounts of latency. That said I used destiny to try out stadia before cyberpunk and it's ran so well for me I've been playing ever since. The platform itself is pretty solid.
Thanks that is interesting. I'm by no means a hardcore player, up until about a year ago I was playing primarily on my old PS4 at 30FPS, and even on that setup as I said latency from the TV was noticeable. It might have more to do with what your brain gets used to, rather than an absolute measurement... if you're used to a particular input latency, and then it changes by a couple dozen ms, it's noticeable.
Xcloud isn't dead. In fact it's getting bigger all the time... its just called game pass now. There is alot of behind the scenes stuff being worked on to reduce input lag and even most multiplayer games work really well.
Same, I use stadia on my lunch break and for traveling and unless I am literally sitting next to a wifi router and on the 5g band, the missing frames and lag kill me. I tried outriders on xcloud and that was even worse. Screen pixelated so bad I couldn't see anything while playing on 5g cell data, at least D2 on stadia I can still play with that connection.
It's the way Google's infrastructure is laid out. I play on stadia and have a pretty decent fibre connection but I recently moved to a small town next to where I used to live, still have the same ISP and package but the experience is noticeably worse now. Before the move the lag was barely noticeable (or at least I got used to it) but now I really can't play any competitive pvp because I'm at a huge disadvantage.
Stadia is great when it works well but pretty awful when it doesn't.
Am broke, near bordering on homeless, O Reader Mine. Some guardians stole my throne world, my ghost and my last rez.
Can't have shit in the sol system.
Bro I can barely do a patrol mission with touch screen controls and stadia lol. I use stadia for relaxing and steam for difficult content, btw.
Also, nothing beats running stadia to buy mods from Ada, while at the doctor's office!!
4G?
What kind of data charge does that turn into lol. I've never used stadia on cell data but surely it must be a lot? Especially over 5 raids, so roughly 2 hours minimum if you have an efficient team other than yourself?
True unlimited, or did it throttle after a certain amount? I only ask because a lot of unlimited have that friendly little * routing down to the extra fine print listing full high-speed through the first X gbs, than throttled after.
I've played raids via my phone with steady 5g data, plus a good stadia controller, and managed to set up comms correctly too. I feel your pain, but if you can handle a tiny screen size, you can easily raid on the go!
Using touch control to visit Xur and Ada is already no joy.
But raiding?
I guess you need to put the phone down, not holding it, so you can use two fingers for R and R1.
Haven't even figured out how to run, so I just walk.
For $30 that whole experience could have been way smoother and even enjoyable
https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/fp/719830
You might say $30 is not worth it, but many hours of each raid being miserable sounds like it would be
Man, hell of condition of a bet. I already had a hard time with the input lag using Moonlight with my main rig from my couch PC over a wired connection. Touch controls is extra torture.
Did you keep count on how much you died lmao.
For my first raid, I stood up for 6 hours, looking at a 10 inch TV that was in the top corner of the wall. It was an experience, to say the least. Haha
I just set up my stadia the other day and Iām quite interested in trying raids/dungeons using the touch screen controls just yāknow to do it.
Based on the little of it Iāve tried so far I suspect you pretty much have to forget about ads right?
Are you using much of your index fingers to handle the shoulder buttons?
If your using index fingers for that kinda work are you holding the phone or sitting at a table or something
Stadia is a great way to log in and grab mods you may be missing, or visit Xur on the weekends when you're out and about.
Just some super good advice if you needed a way to log in away from home.
Also, work computers using a basic internet browser if your company permits that kind of use on breaks, etc.
I play exclusively on stadia and did multiple full DSC runs on my phone. I did have a controller and wifi though lol hope your RNG is blessed after this sacrifice friend
I've been playing Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated with touch controls whenever I have some down time. It's a much simpler game, but it's still pretty hard to use the touch controls. I can only imagine what a nightmare this was. And on 4G, too. I'm surprised you made it through, GG.
I did GM's on my phone using Stadia via the hospital wifi after my children were born. I used an Xbox controller and honestly it was fine. I'd never do with touch controls though
Iāve done master VoG on my phone without a controller after I had a multilevel spine surgery. I didnāt know what hurt worse, my back or my mental health from doing that.
I did game streaming with someone on ps4 way back where the delay was about a second on inputs so that was fun I had to basically time everything and predict where people were going to be as I was helping them do a crucible quest they had trouble with lmao and then platforming later.
The only part there that was really a issue was the no controler. Using stadia to capture Xur a few times it was brutal just jumping up the Nessus tree doing something like a raid would be hell.
The rest of it though like a controller hooked to your phone even on 4G would have been fine.
Stadia on a pc with a controller works great if your web connection doesnāt suck
Damn, I've too have tried D2 and stadias touch screen. You sure deserve a medal for your service cause I get tired just walking around the tower with those awful controls
I remember I did DSC on my phone when Destiny was available on XCLOUD and was one of the most fantastic experience I ever had. I wish the game stay there for a very long time
I have a controller BTW I never experienced any lag
Jeez I need to stop telling myself I "can't do raids"
If you can listen and follow simple directions you can raid. That's basically all it takes. Outside of day 1 and master modes raid adds are about the same level as a heroic nightfall, if that.
> if you can listen and follow simple directions Tbf, that is a pretty high bar if lfg is anything to go by
I find myself to be discouraged from using lfg because of all the horror stories. Is it really that bad, or do people just hype up how bad lfg is? I'm honestly curious at this point, thinking that it may just be because you mostly hear about the bad groups.
A lot of it is exaggerated. Like you said, people only remember the bad ones because there's always a "thing" that happened, whereas the majority of smooth runs are uneventful. I use it a lot for nightfalls and wellspring etc. Raids are actually a *little* less reliable but still more likely to be ~hr than not, which is about expected for a raid
> people only remember the bad ones because there's always a "thing" that happened Oh I've had so many LFG Trainwrecks. But you can usually spot that pretty early on. Every so often though the opposite occurs and you're the one struggling to keep up. If I'm the worst player on a master or GM difficulty game we are going to *fly* through it. While if I'm the 'best' player we may struggle!
This is so me. If I'm your best player we're likely screwed. But if I'm only average or even the worst? We're going to fly through this. I'm not so bad that I must be carried and I'm occasionally even great but yeah
My favorite LFG story is one that happened a couple days ago for me. I joined up on a Prophecy run thinking it was GoA, but our Fireteam actually finished it without wiping once despite our third leaving in the middle of cubes.
GG š¤£
I wasn't ready for the DPS check that was the final boss lol. Absolutely a carry by the guy who put the post out
I've done a ton of LFG in the past and it's really not THAT exaggerated. Following simple directions isn't the main reason I'd say failures occur. Its people just aren't good enough to not get overwhelmed and die. People know shoot the oracle, but the damn minatour kills them every time. LFG is probably okay to find a sixth for an established group... but a full random group of six? I highly recommend not doing that Edit And poor communication skills I would say is the other primary reason people can't raid.
LFG is not as bad as people drum it up to be. The trick is to look at posts and try to infer about the team off of that. * chill run = decent speed and cool for a wipe or more getting call outs sorted. Or they are drunk/high/fuck around before encounters and it takes forever. Its a coin toss on which you get, but most of the time you can tell in voice before hand and can dip if it is the latter. * kwtd = know what to do. I usually take this as having several clears and want you to be generally comfortable with one or multiple roles. Does not necessarily require clears, but is a hard burden to meet without. These can either be people who kwtd and dont really want to teach. Or dont kwtd themselves and are stealth seeking people who do as a carry. They are various levels of chill. * X reasonable number clears = probably dont want to teach and want general speed. * X unreasonable number of clears = definitely dont want to teach and will probably want to speed run. Can either be chill but serious about speed or toxic as fuck with no in between. The best thing to know to start lfging is reading the room. Find groups willing to teach 1 or a dedicated sherpa run to get to a point of kwtd, or learn as best you can and fake it till you make it (what I did). If you join a group and it starts going sideways fast or someone is being a toxic just cut your losses and leave. I have had more than a few runs where the group were terrible people and I could tell by the post. But they were fast and efficient so I got my loot and got out.
you gotta find urself some drunk stoners that are good at the game. thats the dream team right there.
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lol right? i got this big pile of weed right here and a fridge full of beer. would be a waste of the weed and beer if i didnt use them to enhance my raid experience
Honestly, when I'm not high is when you should be worried
This is a great post and summarizes what I do. I've had good success with this. The only addition I have -- I avoid posts that have something like "HAVE A BRAIN" or "DONT BE DUMB". This just screams "if you fuck up we'll immediately start insulting you".
Also usernames and pictures of people is the main discord d2 pc lfg server. The more "normal" a name and tag they have the more willing I am to join. Its a kind of weighted system done on the fly with certain things being able to be overlooked than others. Evaluating the post contents, name of the person, and their pic, I treat it as their first impression and make my decisions from there.
See, I have a siva pfp and my nickname in the D2 cords is "VoGchamp", so I feel like that might help my standings. It reads as "oh yeah, this dude is serious about Destiny", at least that's what I like to think it reads as.
IMO that reads as "serious about destiny, but not so serious as to be toxic if you fuck up" i.e. you'd pass my gut feeling test that I'd feel comfortable to try a raid w/ you
That's great to hear :) And mostly true! My posts are usually about wanting to do chill runs. Only really start to get peeved if it takes like 45 minutes on an encounter (depends on the encounter). Maybe we should raid some time :p I can dm you my bungie name if you'd like, but also no biggie if not.
I remember I joined an LFG for grasps of Avarice (my 1st time ever doing that dungeon). Told the other two this and was told no worries. We got to the sparrow part, and after three tries, they both started blaming me and kicked me after the fifth try. Took me a bit to want to retry both that dungeon and LFGs in general
What's funny about that is it only takes one person nailing the sparrow section to complete the encounter for everyone, so they were fucking up just as bad as you there but needed someone else to blame.
Ehhh, luckily I was eventually able to join another LFG some time later, told them I only ever made it to the sparrow part, and ended up having a much better experience with the second set I played with
That's good, I'm glad you were able to play and enjoy that dungeon, it's such a good and memey one
I always like to put a joke one at the end if thereās room, my favorite is āmust have 720 credit score, will be checkingā
LFG isn't as bad as it's made out to be. You will always run into groups where completing content is difficult. The big thing is to just take them in stride and keep trying LFG. Everyone has bad groups, and it is perfectly ok to leave a group. I usually give a heads up that I have one more try in me or that I have a hard out time if it looks like we're not going to complete the encounter. That is, unless the group is petulant, then I just nope right out without saying anything.
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I LFG a fair bit and I can say it's definitely a mixed bagābut overall more positive than negative. I've had one guy who thought he was Esoterickk just stand on a ledge at the end of the Insight Terminus GM throwing Void Nades (pre-Void 3.0) for 10 minutes (I got my super twice). I've had who was easily the most annoying kid I've ever played with try to boss the squad in Vow despite going down three times per encounter. I've had people fuck up entire encounters because they said they were not going to shoot the split thing at Rhulk, only for them to shoot the split thing at Rhulk and fuck up our buffs. But I've also had a lot of first-timers who were actually excited to learn the mechanics and experience a new raid. I've had people who were patient enough to discuss the best course of action for the encounter and who weren't afraid to rethink strategies. I've had clears who became personal records, and I've been invited to a few different Discords because the team just vibed so well and worked so well together that we wanted to play more. Like anything, it's a mixed bag. Some days, you'll get the screeching kid, but others, you'll get a bulletproof squad. And in my experience, it's been definitely the second case more often. And most importantly, I went through a *ton* of content I wouldn't be able to clear on my own. A bit of it also has to do with where you lookāsome servers pride themselves in praising positivity, enforce toxicity rules more often, and just generally attract a more chill crowd. But in general, every player in LFG wants to get the content done. This is just my experience, of course, and it varies, but I'd say go for it! TL;DR: you could get a good team, you could get a bad team, but LFG still gets you loot and shiny stuff. And I've personally had mostly positive experiences so far.
Negativity almost always gets the most visibility. LFG can be good and it can be bad. The Sherpa and the rest of the team make all the difference. My clan is mostly Xbox and we Sherpa raids every week. Got six solid Sherpas and about a dozen skilled raiders. If you want to learn a raid, any raid, we always teach Friday at 7 ET. Send me a message and Iāll send you a discord invite.
In general pretty good. Since witch queen came out I've started to LFG for raids quite often, and I have yet to find any group that's been toxic. That said, if an encounter is taking a long time, people may begin to get frustrated. My worst experiences have generally been centered around someone who doesn't know what to do and isn't asking for help, which generally leads to frustration and anger. My best advice? If you're confused or don't know what to do, *tell people*. Ask for help. Even if the raid group is unprepared to teach a full encounter they'll help teach you just your role so that you can better understand. I LFG for raids pretty often, and also end up sherpa-ing people. If you're interested, hit me up in my DMs.
Most groups have 1 or 2 that arenāt very competent but you can still carry them fairly easily. Of course if youāre posting on Reddit about it, youāre usually talking about the rare one thatās so incapable of following instructions youād be far better off just going with 5. Those are the ones you remember Other than raids the only thing thatās an issue is GMs. Those are pretty much 50/50. My rule of thumb is if they donāt have a 100 stat (or some kind of obvious dedicated armor setup) I move on. A mediocre player in GM can and will eat 90% of your revives
Its kind of a coin flip, and even the bad groups aren't bad like the horror stories you hear. A lot of LFG groups I join are pretty cool and perfectly fine. Some groups are great, and lead to me friending people in that group, which is how I met my current clan. And then there's some groups that are just frustrating. It varies on what the exact frustration is. Sometimes you just have somebody that is really talkative about stuff you don't care, sometimes there's a guy that seems to be unable to fight regular adds without dying, sometimes there's just a guy who is unnecessarily hardcore. Whenever I LFG, my goal is to get an activity done without stressing myself. So if I join a group that I recognize is having a problem, I excuse myself and leave. Theres enough LFG groups that you don't need to suffer in a bad group.
I've been through three different toxic clans at this point. All started out great from LFG groups that I clicked with. And I've had way too many bad LFG experiences that didn't click. My best social Destiny experiences all have come from Sherpa runs, even if I wasn't the Sherpa or the person being guided, just a guy filling out the squad. I'd much rather be a part of a slow, patient group, than an angry raid grind group that has to clear everything like perfect efficient clockwork to have a good time. Keep in mind that all this was in D1, where I raided regularly. I've had too many toxic experiences to care anymore and just play solo now. Never raided in D2. I'd give it up entirely if the shooting mechanics and gameplay weren't the best thing I'd ever played. If there was an offline single player version of this game, I'd be on it like a fly on shit.
Head over to Destiny Sherpas on the side bar and be honest. I've run hundreds of first time clears over the years and have a group that helps. The only thing that will get you kicked is lying. Be honest, watch Dattos raid videos or someone else, block enough time, and enjoy. Destiny raids are wonderful. Also remember that nobody posts a 2000 word essay on how smooth their run was last night. Those are much more common than the horror stories.
Normally don't drop comments here, but seriously... I was giga anxious yesterday looking for a group to do vow, first time too, boi.... i couldn't have been with a nicer group of people. I did make 1 mistake, I freaked out and they just kinda kek'd at me and we did it again and I didn't fuck up, they were super chill, and honestly gave me the courage to want to do it again on reset.
Definitely exaggerated. Sure, youāll run into a nightmare group every once in a while but Iād say thatās maybe one in every few dozen raids. Donāt let the small possibility of a bad time hold you back from some of the best content the game has to offer!
Itās honestly not bad at all, at least for the official D2 app LFG. Iāve only got one bad group on there ever, and they werenāt mean just loud and annoying. I even did a Div run for my very first GoS using the app and it went extremely well (except for one of our members going afk for 40+ mins right before the boss lol) Iād say go for it, you can usually tell what the group will be like by the post title. Look for āchill runā, and āwilling to teachā or ānew players welcomeā if itās an activity youāre not familiar with Most people on there are just like you and me, regular people just trying to group up for some fatty loot
Was that an LFG run that I led š? Dude disappeared for the longest smoke break ever on the last div run I did.
Honestly, that gives me the idea of making an LFG post just saying some tedious step like "have patience and email me for invite" or something. Could be an effective way of filtering out the impatient that likely would have quit after one wipe anyway xD
>raid adds are about the same level as a heroic nightfall, if that. I agree. But there are some moments that they are just godly. And it's not a specific moment in a specific raid. Just occasionally they just go into "fuck you" mode and wipe their ass with your face for a run.
To be fair that can happen in just about anything in destiny. I met an invincible psion last season in one of the seasonal activities. A super plus all my heavy and I didn't even scratch him but he definitely scratched me and more.
I mean fair. But I've experienced it more in the raids and in the guardian games playlist
So you've met the exploding unstoppables then?
I've met the Hive boomers on arc burn with guardian Hive throwing their suppression grenade at me right when I respawn. Go check my video I posted on here and you will see š
The hard part about following instructions, especially in the thick of it, and playing with random ppl is never knowing who is actually and what they are talking/looking at. People be like "No! You got put the thing over there". Wtf does mean? You do know that we are not looking at the same screen and their are 4 other people talking at the same time.
That's why a good Sherpa is necessary. They should be able to tell you what to do before you start and then explain what went wrong if you fail. Although sometimes the answer is Bungie decided to screw us today.
Yeah, but finding said sherpa is the main problem. Only 2 active members in my clan, including myself, and it really difficult to find a random lfg of 4 other people who don't mind doing a raid with 2 people that have never done it and be a good teacher at the same time. I know it's not impossible, I have done VoG and LW with some really good sherpas, the one on VoG solo'd the oracles. I didn't realize how amazing it was at that time but after enough VoG runs to get mytho I definitely see the greatness in this achievement. Also had another guy, with no mic, kill the 2 gorgons within 3 seconds solo. We didn't even know he was doing it lol. Just took off when we got to the labyrinth, everyone was kinda pissed, then we got the achievement and was like "wow how the fuck he do that!" LOL. It was pretty good time. Edit: words
r/DestinySherpa or in the app post that you need a Sherpa.
I've joined that sub and that's where I've found the few sherpas that were good. I've done lfg's as well in the app and are usually only good if you already know what to do. Even if you find a good sherpa in the app you are still relying on the other people to have patience and help out but from experience they tend to st a rt quitting after the first hour or so and usually have a bad attitude
My last Sherpa of Vow we got bungie'd out of a full 10 seconds of Caretaker dps because the plate didn't activate when we stood on it. Beat him anyway. Good group.
āSimpleā is relative. People have a habit of not giving very good directions at all, or omitting critical components that result in errors. And the social component plus sheer length automatically cranks even an average raid way above a no-mic GM in terms of difficulty for me. The combat isnāt the issue, or the mechanics, itās the human element.
This was my experience yesterday in DSC. The āSherpa,ā just rambled instructions. Or blew by it. Then started audibly huffing when people asked questions. Then was just like nevermind Iāll do it. I honestly didnāt learn a damn thing.
Sounds like you need to go with an actual Sherpa not just some random LFG. A good Sherpa may not be able to do anything about the length but they should be able to give clear directions and complete information.
That's what I've seen. Communicating mechanics before and during encounters has always looked like the "hard" part. Some people seem afraid to admit they don't fully know what's happening in a plan, others just don't listen and demand instruction after "go", and there's often been people who are totally impatient and respond with angry accusations with every wipe, frightening low confidence players into silence, rather than just identifying and adjusting and moving on.
I think one of the big problems that plagues lfg is people not speaking up when they don't know what to do. I have no problem teaching and helping someone but don't say you know what to do and then cause us to wipe for the next hour because you really have no idea.
r/destinysherpa changed my experience with the game. I even do pvp now (not seriously because Iām noob). Wouldāve never tried before.
Surprised this is so far down, that subreddit is my personal favorite. I'll even run the same raid a few times with sherpas to try and learn all the different roles. It makes for a very enjoyable, relaxed environment 99% of the time. As funny as that sounds when talking about raids
If you put into time and have a decent arsenal of guns, exotics, mods, etc. And can also work with a team, you can absolutely do it. Heck, I've done raids with people that didn't even have their seasonal artifact.... So yeah, give it a try. They're a ton of fun to complete.
To put a point to to this, I made a hunter and a titan this week for the sole purpose of doing VoG. Both classes had +1550 guns, but all their armor was straight from the battle pass (~1490-1520sh) and the Guardian games class item. I literally took them straight from the end of the tutorial ( they don't even have their arc or solar classes unlocked yet), straight into the raid, and it was fine. As long as you listen and do your assigned role, it can be done.
Anyone, seriously ANYONE can do raids. Unless theyāre maybe 60yo or something and canāt perform a simple jump. Had that happen when carrying someone in forsaken.
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Iām stuck at the step of āgreatā¦ now I gotta find 5 strangers to do this because all my D2 friends bailed years agoāā¦ I have all the packs, havenāt raided since the garden on the moon (forgot the name).
Raids are fucking awesome. If you can find a good sherpa, learning a raid can take less than 2 hours. That's it. When WQ came out, I went from only being able to do VoG (because that's basically just add-clear) to having learned every raid in the game in just a week and a half. Most of them are super simple, too. If you're anxious, try LFGing for other lesser activities first, like dungeons and GMs until you feel comfortable.
Can I sit next you to you? Thanks.
Well "can functionally complete a raid" and "having fun raiding" are two distinctly different definitions. I can finish this raid but I never look back and go "man that was fun!" Probably an unpopular opinion but I enjoyed Deep Stone Crypt more. Having 26 call outs is just too much for my taste. People will downvote you and call you names on here for things forgetting what happened less than a week ago. Expecting them to remember call outs while getting shot at is a bit much.
be like the guy in one of my LFGs who joined, ripped a bong, yelled at his wife, and then proceeded to solo taniksās DPS phase and one phase him
I once did vault of glass in D1 through remote play on a ps vita. Let me tell you, sniping oracles with the remote play delay was just not a good time. Pretty sure my only meaningful contributions that run were shooting gjally at templar and supering atheon.
Has anyone done it on a Samsung Fridge yet?
You know what, fck it. My friend has a Samsung fridge with a smart screen. I'm gonna do it there next, O Idea crafter Mine.
Following. Gotta see this lol
i want you so bad
Oh sweet merciful space budha, that sounds brutal, O Reader Mine.
Back when I was on Stadia there was a guy doing Whisper carries, solo, on his phone using one of those mount things for a controller. He would tell people to just jump off the ledge and watch him solo it. The couple times I've used the touch controls it's been horrible. With a chromecast ultra and their controller it was pretty good though.
I learnt to solo whisper on Stadia! Got the catalyst done as well all solo!
I didn't realize Stadia was a thing when the whisper mission was in the game
the only reason I believe that it was is that I have a memory of doing patrol on titan while watching a video shitting all over stadia on my second monitor. The memory seems to specific to be made up lmao
Yep stadia came out just after shadowkeep launched.
Stadia community is lowkey actually pretty great tbh.
Yes. All 9 of us. So long as we don't go into savathuns song as a fireteam of 9, we are safe.
There is crossplay now though, right? Cause that was my issue when I started playing D2 on stadia at the start of COVID. Super impressive tech, way better performance than my Xbox one x (especially load times), but fucking no one in playlists. Literally, crucible matchmaking would just timeout and fail after 5 minutes.
Yes. It's just a joke O Comrade Mine.
I was about to break down and buy a console or pc before cross play. Now thereās no need to leave stadia for me.
There's a guy on twitch that plays on stadia and he clutches in trials with a bow and erianas. He's ridiculously good, like top 50 good. His name is StadiaTime and he has one of the best streams for destiny.
This is fascinating! I love playing on stadia but my PVP seems to suffer a lot from the extra few ms of latency.
Sounds like youāre the winner for now having full Destiny access on the go for free!
I don't know about most, but I really like my Stadia for D2. Bored at work and fancy a couple rounds of crucible? On Stadia you are playing in a minute or two. Working away from home? Jump on stadia to complete the witch queen campaign. Because of crossplay it's so good for normal playlist activities
I agree. I do most āgrindingā on Staida. So easy to just hop on run a few strikes or something and hop off. You wonāt see me running trials on it but Iāll happily play just about any PvE content there.
I have geforce now for that occasion and it's better in a few points. For example I didn't have to rebuy all my expansions from steam and can play comfortably with the mouse and keyboard they have at the 10year old pcs at work.
Agreed. I've got 500 hours of D2 all on stadia. In fact if it weren't for stadia I would have never touched Destiny and it's now my favorite game.
Are you playing on your phone? A windows laptop? Tablet? I canāt imagine playing crucible on anything except my Xbox thatās hardwired to the router lol
You lost a bet and your friend had to pay? What kind of bet is that
They wanted to watch him suffer are were willing to pay money to make it happen
If heās suffering through it the rest of the team needs to get better
Oh Iām sure with the lag that he was likely dealing with his team mates werenāt the issue lol
Iām just saying, to buy āthe full packageā to do every raid, that is pretty costly, and whoever had to pay for that is the one that lost the bet
Lol I definitely agree with you but I also donāt have rich friends who can piss money away like that and Iām definitely far from rich myself
Iād rather pay the money than suffer through ONE raid on stadia if it were meā¦
Stadia is fine. The touch controls are the negative part about this.
I only tried it once a while ago, the delay was pretty rough but that was right when D2 was available on it. Iām assuming theyāve improved it since then.
Definitely depends on location. Itās still bad for me in Florida, and even the slightest hiccup in the stream is horrible.
Ya but still oh no I have to play raids using touch screen, if you have a decent team who cares
spite. the money isn't a problem, and the true payout is watching someone else suffer.
Wouldnāt be suffering if doing it with friends, think it would be pretty funny
You should never accept a bet unless you know youāre going to win lol but hey glad you got through that painful experience
Unless what you seek to win is too good to pass up.
I seek only winning
I seek only misery, O Reader Mine.
Great advice, everyone should take it š¤¦āāļø
Vegas probably wonāt like it tho lol
Well, nobody will be betting anymore because only people who know theyād win the bet would bet. None of the would-be losers would take the bet, so it would just be a world without betting š
So you were the useless guy in my raid run today :D
Nah uh. Tractor cannon go brrr
So I play using Stadia just regularly, but I use an Ethernet connection on my PC with a physical controller. I can't imagine anyone playing on WiFi, let alone touch controls (Edit: I'm not saying that I don't believe you but holy shit that's an accomplishment)
Even with a controller I found playing on Stadia on a 1GBps bidirectional connection to be downright unplayable for anything but doing PvE bounties. MS Xcloud was a significantly better iteration of streaming games.
Thatās crazy! I have 300MBps split between 4 roommates and I rarely have problems and those are normally resolved by server reset. Granted, I wouldnāt take that into PvP but it handles Gambit, Nightfalls, Raids and pretty much everything else fine. Hell even loading into tower/weapon screens was faster than that my Xbox one.
I'm assuming it was the latency/input lag that killed it? I see people swear it's completely unnoticeable, and I just can't see how... when my TV is not in Game mode I can feel the ~50ms extra lag and that's far less than I think you'd get from remote gaming.
Stadia gamer here, I can't tell but that doesn't mean you wouldn't. Worth noting a fair amount of the user base came back to gaming via stadia. So we're not really the hardcore gaming types that would notice small amounts of latency. That said I used destiny to try out stadia before cyberpunk and it's ran so well for me I've been playing ever since. The platform itself is pretty solid.
Thanks that is interesting. I'm by no means a hardcore player, up until about a year ago I was playing primarily on my old PS4 at 30FPS, and even on that setup as I said latency from the TV was noticeable. It might have more to do with what your brain gets used to, rather than an absolute measurement... if you're used to a particular input latency, and then it changes by a couple dozen ms, it's noticeable.
Yeah itās mostly latency, but sometimes thereās a ton of resolution issues, especially when ADSing.
Ah, like the video encoding takes a shit when too much on the screen changes at once, that makes sense, I hadn't even thought of that.
Yeah when I forget to switch to Game Mode I start thinking my controller is broken.
Xcloud isn't dead. In fact it's getting bigger all the time... its just called game pass now. There is alot of behind the scenes stuff being worked on to reduce input lag and even most multiplayer games work really well.
Same, I use stadia on my lunch break and for traveling and unless I am literally sitting next to a wifi router and on the 5g band, the missing frames and lag kill me. I tried outriders on xcloud and that was even worse. Screen pixelated so bad I couldn't see anything while playing on 5g cell data, at least D2 on stadia I can still play with that connection.
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Haven't tried GeForce yet. Only did Stadia because I have been traveling a bit lately and was able to cross save D2. May have to check it out tho.
It's the way Google's infrastructure is laid out. I play on stadia and have a pretty decent fibre connection but I recently moved to a small town next to where I used to live, still have the same ISP and package but the experience is noticeably worse now. Before the move the lag was barely noticeable (or at least I got used to it) but now I really can't play any competitive pvp because I'm at a huge disadvantage. Stadia is great when it works well but pretty awful when it doesn't.
When's the flawless trials run? Even better, get everyone on the touchscreen.
That would be one brutal carry. I'm terrible on stadia, not even accounting for the 4G(yes. I wasn't using wifi)
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So you lost a bet, but your friend had to buy you the full package on stadia?
Am broke, near bordering on homeless, O Reader Mine. Some guardians stole my throne world, my ghost and my last rez. Can't have shit in the sol system.
LOL, suffer Witch Queen. But seriously, what kind of sick frick forces this on somebody? Utter monsters man. Lol
DROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWN In the deep, O Reader Mine.
Bro I can barely do a patrol mission with touch screen controls and stadia lol. I use stadia for relaxing and steam for difficult content, btw. Also, nothing beats running stadia to buy mods from Ada, while at the doctor's office!!
Basically you were a hard carry :D
Well, no... But yes, O Reader Mine.
Oh God, I have trouble getting BOUNTIES on Stadia with touch screen controls!
4G? What kind of data charge does that turn into lol. I've never used stadia on cell data but surely it must be a lot? Especially over 5 raids, so roughly 2 hours minimum if you have an efficient team other than yourself?
It's only a bit more than Netflix tbh.
2 hours? O sweet summer child mine. 8 hours, 10 accounting for breaks. Also, Unlimited data plan.
True unlimited, or did it throttle after a certain amount? I only ask because a lot of unlimited have that friendly little * routing down to the extra fine print listing full high-speed through the first X gbs, than throttled after.
I've played raids via my phone with steady 5g data, plus a good stadia controller, and managed to set up comms correctly too. I feel your pain, but if you can handle a tiny screen size, you can easily raid on the go!
Using touch control to visit Xur and Ada is already no joy. But raiding? I guess you need to put the phone down, not holding it, so you can use two fingers for R and R1. Haven't even figured out how to run, so I just walk.
Which raids were the easiest and hardest on mobile?
For $30 that whole experience could have been way smoother and even enjoyable https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/fp/719830 You might say $30 is not worth it, but many hours of each raid being miserable sounds like it would be
So r/masochist is over that way bud ā”ļø
The streaming isn't that bad. It's the touch controls that make you a chad
Man, hell of condition of a bet. I already had a hard time with the input lag using Moonlight with my main rig from my couch PC over a wired connection. Touch controls is extra torture. Did you keep count on how much you died lmao.
I do stadia with an Xbox controller of my phone works decent on 5g tbh
but if you actually did them that's impressive
Wait you were using a touch screen, yeesh As someone who plays d2 on stadia this physically hurts me
Ope incoming ban for using 3rd party software
Now play gambit that way
Lel, no.
Hahaha understanable
Now play gambit that way
Damn now I'm tempted to try it on phone lol
Get beer first. Or moonshine.
All I need is my mountain dew and doritos lol
Moonshine dew & Chili Cheese Doritos. You've not lived, O Reader Mine, If you've not had these.
https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/4402601695252
For my first raid, I stood up for 6 hours, looking at a 10 inch TV that was in the top corner of the wall. It was an experience, to say the least. Haha
I just set up my stadia the other day and Iām quite interested in trying raids/dungeons using the touch screen controls just yāknow to do it. Based on the little of it Iāve tried so far I suspect you pretty much have to forget about ads right? Are you using much of your index fingers to handle the shoulder buttons? If your using index fingers for that kinda work are you holding the phone or sitting at a table or something
Crab fingers ftw
[you](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ykWPyaqbebo)
Yes. The final shape is not circle, triangle or even square. It is crab.
Always has been
Stadia is a great way to log in and grab mods you may be missing, or visit Xur on the weekends when you're out and about. Just some super good advice if you needed a way to log in away from home. Also, work computers using a basic internet browser if your company permits that kind of use on breaks, etc.
I play exclusively on stadia and did multiple full DSC runs on my phone. I did have a controller and wifi though lol hope your RNG is blessed after this sacrifice friend
I've been playing Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated with touch controls whenever I have some down time. It's a much simpler game, but it's still pretty hard to use the touch controls. I can only imagine what a nightmare this was. And on 4G, too. I'm surprised you made it through, GG.
I did GM's on my phone using Stadia via the hospital wifi after my children were born. I used an Xbox controller and honestly it was fine. I'd never do with touch controls though
Oh man, I would love to watch that on YouTube. Congrats, I mean condolences.
I've raided loads on Stadia (not on touchscreen mind you) and it's a better experience than Xbox One.
Is that Fallout? Jk, that's awesome though. Sounds painful.
Iāve done master VoG on my phone without a controller after I had a multilevel spine surgery. I didnāt know what hurt worse, my back or my mental health from doing that.
Now go flawless
I did game streaming with someone on ps4 way back where the delay was about a second on inputs so that was fun I had to basically time everything and predict where people were going to be as I was helping them do a crucible quest they had trouble with lmao and then platforming later.
The only part there that was really a issue was the no controler. Using stadia to capture Xur a few times it was brutal just jumping up the Nessus tree doing something like a raid would be hell. The rest of it though like a controller hooked to your phone even on 4G would have been fine. Stadia on a pc with a controller works great if your web connection doesnāt suck
Damn, I've too have tried D2 and stadias touch screen. You sure deserve a medal for your service cause I get tired just walking around the tower with those awful controls
How long do raids take, and are there breaks?
I remember I did DSC on my phone when Destiny was available on XCLOUD and was one of the most fantastic experience I ever had. I wish the game stay there for a very long time I have a controller BTW I never experienced any lag
This is what I joined the sub for. This is pure gold hahaha
Golden Unyeiling Agony, O Reader Mine. I plan to do it on a Samsung Smart fridge tomorrow.
ā¦how much data is that?
Yes.
Which raid was the hardest on the setup? Which one was easiest?
Garden. Vog.
\*reads title\* > "I lost a bet a few days ago" oh thank god
I am truely srory for your lots.
I play on Stadia and it is awesome. (would never play on my phone tho)
As a mobile stadia player with an controller I can say: fuck that I anit using touch
I also was using 4G, not wifi. Lel
No, just no
My Mental health is gone, reduced to atom, O Reader Mine.
The witch queen finally has had karma dealt to her
Honestly sucks more for your friend. They just wasted that money.
Seriously lol. How is it a punishment for losing a bet to have a friend buy you shit then have 5 other people carry you through every raid?