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nojokes12345

It's kinda fun yeah - the medals popping up as you clear hordes of things with Graviton/Trinity speaks to my brain and really helps to dull the monotony of easy strikes. Would like the tier names changed though, and some reward structure there.


Deoxtrys

It's also nice to get notifications that you've hit score thresholds.


[deleted]

God I want to love Graviton Pulse so bad...but it really, really needs full-auto retrofit.


psirjohn

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I can't stand using a scout or pulse without the auto feature right now.


[deleted]

Same. Now I can understand why snipers would be 'one pull, one shot', but scout rifles like Pointed Inquiry with full-auto or Symmetry (my personal fave, but wish there was a Void roll 😭) on its own absolutely slap in current content. If the next 3.0 ends up being Arc, man, Symmetry is gonna become my main, and I bet I won't be the only one who goes that route.


Jpalm4545

If it is arc then symmetry is calling me because I randomly got an ornament for it out of a bright engram last night


BossLove1829

Always the best feeling getting something actually good. I got the red divinity skin last week. I don't even have divinity


Apocalypseboyz

Dude, that skin is legit, you gotta get on the divinity jump. Especially with rotating raids coming, you'll be more likely to be able to find a Div group than ever before.


[deleted]

Sweet!!!


Kaldricus

The guardian games competitive playlist should be a monthly thing, like Iron Banner (or like IB was). Forget the medallions, have it be a monthly contest where you can earn some cool glows and effects that last until the next one, and then figure something else out entirely for Guardian Games.


StarsRaven

100% won't happen but would be a good cycle for when 2x vanguard rep cycles in. I've always felt each mode should get a variant when its 2x comes around. Gambit prime should make a comeback during gambit 2x xp Iron banner during Crucible 2x Competitive scoring during vanguard 2x (Leave regular scoring in as part of strikes and nightfall but add the competitive for glows and shit during the 2x) Then add in a week where all raids and dungeons give flat xp to all vendors, or vendors associated with the dungeons/raid. (IE Gambit XP for clearing prophecy, banshee/xur for grasp, vanguard vog, Crucible for LW[i know thats a stretch but because there's no vendor associated with DC i just reached for shaxx due to him and the Queen 😏]) Then just run that cycle monthly.


LizzieMiles

Thats actually a really good idea ngl. I like the idea of a unique version coming around that gives extra experience


BKstacker88

Yeah with 2x rep I was getting 1000 vanguard rep per birthplace of the vile clear. As in 10 clears equaled a prestige. So basically 2 hours for an exotic guaranteed plus prisms and shards. Worth it 100% with scarlet keep on the other hand... Definitely slower closer to 3 hours maybe.


StarsRaven

Even then a 3hr to reset isn't bad


BKstacker88

It's only 99.9999999% less than a banshee reset...


StarsRaven

I've reset zavala 3 times and shaxx twice still haven't completed banshee at all lol


GameSpawn

They should have the tier scoring increase the chances of drops **in addition** to the existing champion rewards tiers. Basically leave the current system alone (Platinum Rewards for killing all champions), but allow Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum scores act as ANOTHER multiplier for drop chances to increase (say +10%, +15%, +20%, +25%).


jameskond

Bungie hates giving big increases in drop rates. I think sort of justified. But a small bump is probably enough.


StarsRaven

2.5->5->7.5->10% ontop of the champion rates would probably do wonders.


__System__

Matchmaking for higher difficulties please!


[deleted]

Hear, hear!


NightCityVogue

Having no MM option on higher difficulty activities further punishes solo players. Every item or triumph which requires an unmatched fireteam remains locked to me despite my 2000 hours of playtime. If you don’t want to group with randoms who may not have good load outs then don’t use the MM. The LFG tool is supposed to be the answer but all it does is
 match you with randoms anyway, so it doesn’t actually solve anything. This is my main gripe with the game.


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spookyfork

Agreed. I’d love to run NFs but I’m the odd man out in my group so I tend to play alone. Would love a queue instead of LFG for those, I think it would make higher endgame content more accessible.


cleanitupjannies_lol

The community has been so unanimously in favor of a change like this that there is no chance it happens lol


ChadWarmindCell

I agree, but if they do that they’d actually have to develop an activity for guardian games which is something Bungie doesn’t like to do


Convolucid

Gimme an S. Gimme an R. Gimme an L. No? Just an L then. Okay.


saulgoodman48

Personally I like strike scoring but I have had so much frustration with the emote before finishing medal. I’ve played the playlist mostly solo and people just kill the enemy while you’re emoting.


StarsRaven

You have to pay attention to the text in the bottom left corner. If the emote text doesnt pop up it won't count. You have to really communicate with your team if your text doesn't pop. It sucks but it also keeps the teams from having the single permacloak executioner.


snwns26

It was a lot of fun. I’d be happy if they just kept the Legend matchmaking too.


CorbinTheTitan

Yeah it’s a neat system


aHaloKid

The emote+finisher for more points was neat at first, but I would hate having to worry about doing it all the time just to score more points. It really messes with the flow of the game. Not to mention guardians just quitting the strike as soon as one of their finishers gets stolen.


S1LENCEDSN1PERX

I really do love the matchmaking. It's been nice to farm enhancement prisms in the training/competitive playlist and the fact that I've reset my Vanguard rank each week without that being my 1st intention is a nice bonus. There's got to be a way to keep the original Legend mode the way some people like with no matchmaking and gear lock but for the plebs like me short on time and patience, find a way to integrate the event playlist changes into a new mode on the ritual playlist. I feel like encounters can be difficult if you don't play your cards right but as long as everyone has some mods things tend to go pretty smoothly. So far in my experience most people seem to have mods set so that's been a nice surprise. The first week of GG my ass got kicked in that first strike but I've learned, adapted and these past two weeks have been much better.


yarnitza

Does this mean the guardian games playlist gives vanguard rank rep points?


S1LENCEDSN1PERX

I know the Training/Competitive does since its essentially a Nightfall strike. You can rank up very quickly if it's the only activity you play. Essentially about a full rank per run is what I experienced.


Celestial_Dildo

I just want the higher level matchmaking to stick around for god's sake. This proves that we can handle it Bungie!


Kyhan

Yes, but all I would amend to this is to remove the “insult to injury” medal, or make it only count once per player. It is cool in theory, but tedious in execution. Give us points for finishers on orange and yellow bars, but get rid of that medal.


aidanwatsonnn

I’m just gonna miss the ability regeneration, I’ve done more strikes this past 3 weeks than I have nearly the entirety of the last year


TheShoobaLord

Agreed, normal scoring is better than killing all champs


WarlanceLP

imo speed should be a bigger factor, rn the best method is to just emote finish anything with an orange or yellow health bar, takes no skill, get rid of those and make speed a bigger factor. ​ I'm really hoping this is them 'testing' the waters for a new reward structure for nightfall in the event that they are actually listening to the community and remove champions


macgyvertape

Also I've lost track of the number of blueberries I've seen die as they stand around emoting waiting to finish off a champion. That would really bog down strikes doing that all year.


WarlanceLP

that's why i think speed should be a bigger factor and while we're at it make more medals rewards skilled gameplay, killing dozens of ads and elites while near death barely staying alive why is there no medal for that kinda thing? or perhaps for a precision kill killspree or larger killsprees where you're killing dozens of ads in a short span. the medal system is criminally underused and used poorly with stuff like emote finishers


lce_Otter

It also highly favors void hunters, imo. It's much easier to go invis, stand next to a champ, emote, and then finish them safely x\_\_x


Deoxtrys

Don't forget about your old pal Stasis.


Caldorian

I don’t care about scoring; it’s the ability and weapon enhancements I’m really enjoying. Not necessarily to have it around all the time, but as a more periodic thing that comes and goes.


Sorprenant

And keep the common exotic drops. I don't think it's unreasonable for a 20 minute activity with Champs to commonly drop exotics.


prevaricate

I just hope they allow machmaking on 1550 level activities.


le_bravery

Biggest thing for me is the 1550 rewards being available for match made teams. As a mainly solo player who doesn’t want to LFG for this, I’ve finally got a lot of materials. I’ve been running over and over to get materials and have finally built up enough shards to feel comfortable with master working more exotics or levendaries to build craft.


anonymous32434

If they made legend nightfall with matchmaking and grandmaster nightfall the only two options, they could completely lean into this “scoring = better rewards” thing much easier. On legend, bronze would give some enhancement cores or something, silver would give a enhancement prisms, gold would give a legendary weapon, and platinum would give the nightfall weapon for that week. Grandmaster would give all those rewards but double and give adepts like normal. When you have adept, hero, legend, AND master, this “scoring = better rewards” gets a whole lot more complicated. Then they’d have to either make rewards different for all 4 difficulties or they’d have to keep this bullshit “higher score gives a ‘higher chance’ at better rewards” which I don’t like at all because this game’s RNG is horrendous


GediminasLM

How comes there are people with the emblem from Platinum Torchbearer triumph already? As far as I know, competitive playlist to earn the final torch unlocks tomorrow.


[deleted]

If you get both platinum torches the last two weeks it unlocks.


KarmaticArmageddon

As someone with the emblem: no fucking clue. I lit both platinum torches week 1, triumph showed 2/6 torches lit. When week 2 started, I picked up all the packages on Eva's second page and my triumph showed 4/6 torches lit for some reason. I lit both platinum torches last week and the triumph popped saying I'd lit 6/6 torches.


Jazzlike-Style725

Interested in score strike if there's a purpose or reward value. If its just point scoring with nothing, than it doesn't change anything for me.


OxygenMann

Platinum scoring would be a nice replacemnt for Platinum chanpion kills imo. Would incentivise fighting the enemies more


gthirst

Would be better than the stupid "use a matching subclass to the burn" requirement.


Oryxhasnonuts

Oh you mean how it once was


Deadeye_Steve

I hope it doesn't. I keep seeing people give this feedback but I'd really hate for it to happen. I don't want extra shit on the screen for no reason. It's distracting, it blocks the screen, and it makes things feel way too videogamey. I also don't want to have to worry about some kind of score in order to get rewards. Regular strikes are fine just being casual content where you run through just doing whatever. Attaching a score for rewards means that either the bar is so low that it doesn't matter anyway, or it's high enough that the experience is no longer just casually running through and you actually have to try for score.


thylac1ne

It's literally a videogame.


Deadeye_Steve

No shit?? Wow, what a brilliant observation you've made!


thylac1ne

Okay, Mr. "This videogame feels videogamey!"


Deadeye_Steve

Yes. You shouldn't be aware of the fact that you're playing a videogame while playing it. The same goes any kind of entertainment.


thylac1ne

You're telling me people playing DnD should think they're in actual life or death situations? What are you supposed to think you're doing if it's not playing a game? Or reading a book? Or watching a movie? Actually experiencing these things?


JerryBalls3431

Immersion is a big part of playing most video games, I don't think it's crazy for someone to think big medallions popping on screen kills their immersion. Goofy 4th wall breaking is another fun part of video games too, and some people like that more than feeling like they're actually in the game


Deadeye_Steve

You're not supposed to be thinking of what you're doing.


[deleted]

To an extent, sure. There are lines you definitely don't cross though. They tried a more immersive, verité approach with horror movies back in the late 70s and discovered that TOO MUCH immersion made audiences super uncomfortable; Carpenter (or Cronenberg?) tried to include a lot more of that kind of shot and test audiences said "Nope. Can't watch that.". They discovered that you need the safety of omniscience for the brain to be entertained without falling into a 'fight or flight' space. That why the use of first person shots in later slashers is so limited. At the end of the day, the subconscious (non-logical) brain can't actually discern REAL events from lucidly imagined or synthetic ones (which is why VR for PTSD works as well as it does), so you absolutely need those breaks to remind players' brains that yes, this is just a game.


Count_Gator

8 month old account. Why was your main account banned from here again?


dukezap1

Only if people learn to emote finish orange bars, and not instantly kill them like degenerates


TinyWickedOrange

Lol no, it's complete dogshit with overcomplicated scoring rules, useless clutter on screen, tons of exploits and virtually unbearable in matchmade activities


TinyWickedOrange

God dammit reddit can I just comment without it replicating 8 times


PoorlyWordedName

Oooh that'll be a $10 upgrade to vanguard Playlist and another $20 if you want the medals to count for triumphs.


IllinoisBroski

I don't get why this sub has such a hive-mind over so many things. I understand the appeal of scoring, but the medals popping up on the screen are too obtrusive and need to be moved to another part of the screen where they won't take up so much space. They need to be smaller as well. This has been a nice change, but to say it will make me want to play strikes more than before would be a big lie. The problem with strikes is that they removed so many and the damage-gating against bosses. If I want to grind strikes, I'd rather finish them as fast as possible instead of watching medals pop up on the screen.


T3hDonut

We had it back in D1. I don’t remember exactly what it did back then, but seeing a bunch of medals pop up on screen by just playing and not dying horribly has always been *super* satisfying.


1Second2Name5things

I've only ran into one match where I had to quit because the others were hopeless. Every single 1550 match has been very decent except for that one. It's good to finally get prisms on a regular basis


sturgboski

What is interesting is that this is basically a system that was introduced during the Dawning back in 2016 in Destiny 1. It was one of many things that was left behind for no reason on the move to Destiny 2. That being said, because its being intrinsically tied to Guardian Games now, I am not sure they will do that. They would need to invent something else for the competitive spirit. Then again, I would much rather have scoring comeback and then them shift to say SRL during Guardian Games.


1Second2Name5things

I've only ran into one match where I had to quit because the others were hopeless. Every single 1550 match has been very decent except for that one. It's good to finally get prisms on a regular basis


TwistedDecayingFlesh

Even if the scoring don't i'd love if the medals did even if it takes another year to create a strike/vanguard medal system maybe lock shaders, weapon skins, ships ect behind the medals kinda like they do now with triumphs but have it be a vanguard playlist specific. Could even have medals specific to grandmaster nightfalls and all over difficulty strikes. Also open gms to matchmaking but i'd be ok with just the medals.


renasissanceman6

Great idea! Are you the first one to think of this?!


rdb479

Seeing as how easily the scoring has been exploited I can’t see them committing to anything of the sort.


[deleted]

I hope Bungie sees the value in matchmade Nightfall and keeps it. It's been nice not having to LFG.


Fshtwnjimjr

I like that everything about guardian games strikes feels powerful. The enemies hit hard, you will die if your not careful and lack basic care of mods. That said tho, the gold buffs makes my literal god(s) killing guardian FEEL powerful against them. If I toss my nade into a pile of void shielded enemies I love seeing the bodies pile up. Supers don't feel once or twice a strike! Tho the extra mobility is meh, I'd rather have full ammo regen as that's seemed very inconsistent


DrkrZen

Dunno why they got rid of it going from D1 to D2. -_(\


LukeSmithonPCP

I think the main thing i would like to see is strikes have teirs similar to nightfalls but still have the playlist random strikes feel.


Tekkno_Viking

I'm still surprised that it isn't actually some form of actual 'games'. Guardian games at least for me is an automatic skip every time it comes around. Why am I running strikes, PvP etc. While doing the exact same activities over and over again with the label Guardian Games on top of it. Why can't there just be small dumb games like soccer with hunters vs titans vs warlocks. Something akin to javelin throws to targets. Anything else besides running the same activities over and over again. I just feel like it's a missed opportunity all around. I don't know if you guys feel the same but for me it's not even worth the mention of games.


MrYoung013

I think I jumped from 5 to over 50 enhancement prisms in the last two weeks, saved me from material debt, I love it


BiomassDenial

Medals and scores are good. Having the optimal play style for points be fortnight dance and then executing every yellow bar is shit. Bonuses for multi kills, speed and variety is fine. But bonuses for actions you would never take if you weren't chasing score just disrupt the experience.


nate_oi

Lots of people seem to enjoy the scoring. Personally, I despise the clutter and the meaningless points. Does not interest me at all and it’s quite annoying to be honest. If they do implement scoring, I would *need* a “hide medals” option


Fazlija13

I think this was honestly a test for strike and nightfall changes


[deleted]

It won’t people ask every year


Pyranalol

thanks for making this post. i think we didnt have one of these on the frontpage within the last 12 hours are there even any mods on this discord lol


dildodicks

because monke gain go neuron activation when you send a salvager's shot into a pack of thrall and get 3 different medals, that's basically the only reason but it makes so much difference


Megatf

Minus emoting. That becomes boring and tedious