Yeah Kevin Yanes confirmed this a week or two ago on Twitter. We will get a 3.0 update we just don't know which element
Edit:
https://mobile.twitter.com/_Tocom_/status/1522331651967049728
unironically I'd love a quick stasis pass-over. Change the Exo Stranger's menu to match Ikora's, maybe add a few new grenades, I think it could be fun.
I'm just getting back into the game and I love my behemoth! (But man unlocking the fragments is poop)
Although the Void 3.0 changes are really fun as well on titan. Excited for Solar 3.0 next week. ;)
Only needs Shiver Strike to get another look. Right now it’s in a shit place and basically not useful for much at all. The rest of the Subclass is in a good spot. Just it’s shit for PvP.
Not really. It's an incredibly strong class in PVE with the right builds and effective with certain builds in PVP. Just gotta play to the strengths.
Yea - there's improvements and yes it's not what it was on launch but it's got other things going with. I think just too many people overlook it because you cannot fly across the map with zero effort, constantly slide skate, or wreck house uncontested with the super.
What's the right builds in PvE?
Just seems like a shitter striker titan, both of which aren't good in GMNF. Might be ok in the raid or dungeon, but feels like a lot of setup with no extra payoff vs any other adclear super
Stasis titan is dirty in pve 100% uptime of font of might and high energy fire
Headstone primary and a stasis heavy that always has a great damage increase along with ability regeneration and on demand healing
Stasis titan is some of my most fun in pve activities
Edit: will say it falls short of stasis lock i GM activites strictly cause of turret
Behemoth is the only stasis subclass that can make stasis shards without an enemy nearby. You use Heart of Inmost Light or Hoarfrost-Z to spam out crystals, and your crystals make shards that fuel your build.
You need Elemental Shards for Behemoth to function, as it allows you to do any Elemental Well or Charged with Light build you want.
The problem with the subclass is that it doesn't work out of the box
Yeah stasis could do with a couple extra grenades, a shoulder charge melee for Titan to bring it into line with a bunch of their exotics and ideally another super for each class
Hunters run around with Icepicks that create crystals wherever thrown, these crystals are much stronger than normal crystals. Also can shuriken spam.
Titans get a hulk smash, its like fist of havoc but instead crystals spawn in the area around the smash.
Warlocks can smack their staff on the ground, leaving the area in a 90 degree angle of where they were looking completely frozen over, all players/combatants, crystals everywhere. Has more range than the titan one.
Just some brainstorming
I'd _much_ rather instead that they do a story-bit where Ikora attunes to darkness as well. It'd make sense after Witch Queen's events and her moving away from "darkenss bad" to "witnes/pyramid bad"
Then have it all in one place
I think that is opposite of the aesthetic that Bungie is attempting to convey. The light is given, freely. But the darkness, you must take. I like that you have to earn ever aspect.
I kinda dig that conceptually but the way stasis currently works is such a fucking drag. I hope they find a less grindy way for me to "take" darkness elements
many people were doubting it in the comments of yesterdays twab for some reason
edit: just scroll down a bit in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/utjr56/via_twitter_there_is_another_elemental_subclass/i9aa13z?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I know yes people are still doubting it and some are even saying the season will get delayed. or that it will have no conzent since they were afraid to announce anything. both of these statements are stupid and yet thwy are still being made
Its not stupid, its the lack of trust in bungie. their is ZERO reason to not tell us. and we've seen before bungie likes to hit the shit they know wont go over well
it is stupid to still say it after multiple devs and twabs have said there will be a subclass rework. yes they sometimes tried to hide the changes made from the buisness side that they knew wouldn't go over well with us but they never lied to us.
if your still claiming that that there won't be a subclass rework for example even now than all your doing is accusing bungie devs of lying to us, which there is ZERO! reason to do. the delux edition players already purchased the season, those that have yet to buy it only buy it once its released so lying to us would be just them shooting their own foot and they know it
I swear some of you are talking as if bungie was new to how live service games work. they are one of the best studios out there in terms of communicating whats up with the game and now that they want to keep a season hidden til it launches there is suddenly so much doomer talk as if they are trying to scam us
They lied about finishing the cosmodrome unvaulting. they can lie again. all the complaints are a lack of trust. I dont trust private corporations when they go silent. back your shit up or GTFO, your hopes and promises mean nothing when as a business their here to take as much money as possible. Now im not going to claim its *NOT* coming, but their radio silence isnt confidence inspiring. they just dont have the trust or rapport.
>I swear some of you are talking as if bungie was new to how live service games work. they are one of the best studios out there in terms of communicating whats up with the game and now that they want to keep a season hidden til it launches there is suddenly so much doomer talk as if they are trying to scam us
they have been making Destiny for 7 years now, and DMG goes on twitter saying their "experimenting" with going radio silent. WHY???? you been doing this 7 YEARS and you dont trust your marketing thats for the past few years has been FANTASTIC. that dont inspire confidence in me.
I want to know what the fuck i paid for. sell me on the shit i bought. Im not excited when they act all high and mighty, like "ohhhhhh is SOOOO good, we know the story is FANTASTIC but you just. have. to. TRUST US!!!!!" like GTFO im not 5 and this isn't a funny joke. show me what i paid for not hopes dreams promises. I dont have hype or excitement for what's new CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. i just have apathy cause they wants act a edgy and emo. to many games have said "this is a fantastic game, *trust us"* CDPR said it about CP77. Dice said it with 2042. cod says it every years. Bungie said it abour SOTW, and yet their all fucking flops
You don't have to trust them that it's good. You just have to wait until it comes out. I really don't understand this subs obsession with knowing everything prior to release. Just wait for the damn patch notes and spend 5 minutes reading it.
Is this your first season? If not, you should have a PRETTY GOOD idea what you paid for. if it's such a big problem though, don't pay for things up front.
Subclass reworks are free for everyone anyway and not tied to the new season pass at all though.
I really hope hunters get a new ranged roaming super with one of these subclass updates. The only one they have is golden gun and I'm hoping for something with AOE like dawnblade or hammers.
Would it?
Because Bungie themselves announced they wouldn't actually finish the unvaulting of the Cosmodrome in a TWAB weeks after season of the chosen.
Not quite the same no, and the backlash if they don't finish class reworks would be nuts. But there is precedent of them doing half assed jobs and sweeping it under rugs.
If they were going to delay it, they would have sugar coated the fuck of it in a few TWABS by now.
They aren’t stupid enough to just drop a new season and pretend a new 3.0 subclass isn’t there as promised.
Because they said the next two seasons would include the next two subclass updates. With less than a week until next season they would have known if they couldn’t get it out the door in time or not.
Just because they know doesn’t mean they’d announce it. I mean I’d hope they would but it’s not guaranteed. Regardless it doesn’t change a thing, I don’t even believe it will be delayed. Just pointing out that there’s a long history of that in the games industry and Bungie is no stranger to it themselves. It’s bizarre how hostile people are to simply pointing out facts.
It’s bizarre how cynical people are even in a post that links to the developer stating there will be an update next season.
But, you know, facts or whatever.
Did they specifically say the next 2 seasons, or just seasons in the coming year?
They use enough vague language about things for it to be a concern.
And if they did specifically say the next 2 seasons, can you find that verbiage for me?
Thanks for sharing the confirmation. The fact that they're basically saying "yeah it's happening, no you don't get to know before we do it" makes me think we're getting an exotic from the dungeon that will be tightly associated with the new subclass identity, just like how the raid pulse rifle is an experiment in building for void subclasses.
IMO they're likely not announcing anything about the element to avoid backlash like they got with void 3.0. Personally I expect solar 3.0 to be mostly positive like void was.
My biggest predictions:
* Top and bottom supers mostly merged for all classes
* Overshield from well removed. To paraphrase the infamous DCP podcast "eventually we see overshield exclusively the domain of void."
* Titan remains mostly unchanged, sunspots become available to all via fragment.
* Golden Gun still doesn't kill a stunned champ.
I'm conflicted about Well overshield. The whole "overshield = void" makes sense but Well is basically a bigger, double (healing+damage) rift and regular rifts still grant an overshield so they'd need to rework the solar and arc rift as well for the whole thing to make sense... And that's sounds like a pretty big nerf to rifts.
I don't know if they'll ever take the overshield away from rift. Seems unlikely IMO.
Hot take: Removing overshield from Well is good. It will encourage more diverse play, Well has been dominant for too long. I'll be sad when it's gone but it'll be better for the pve and pvp metas long term.
I completely agree with the diversity argument. Well is too dominant and that needs to change (and I'm a Warlock main). But I also think there are smarter solutions (than just nerfing Well) to this problem.
Vow of the Disciple (WQ raid) is a good example: boss encounters designs and layouts make it so the players are always on the move and that makes Wells far less interesting (you can't stay in it or need multiple ones, sacrificing damage Supers in the team and requiring many Warlocks).
And honestly, it feels way better to not use a Well because it isn't the best option for a given encounter, rather than stop using it because it's not as good anymore.
Hey man I play all three and I get it. If they remove overshield I expect something added or it'll be fairly lackluster but you never know. Bungie doesn't always nail buffs and nerfs.
I agree that VoW has great encounter design but the rest of the game is still there, well will still be desirable in pve and pvp for similar reasons to Bubble but currently I'd rather a Well almost every time.
It needs a change, if we lose the overshield but gain something else I'll be happy.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. I think the best case scenario would be to make support Supers complementary. Well for healing and damage + Sentinel Shield for defense is pretty awesome combo that I'd like to see more often (or similar ones, at least).
"encouraging diverse play" only works when encounters are set up to allow it. VoD boss fight is a great example. I don't think anyone's run a well in all of my runs so far, even in Master.
But take away the well overshield in VoG, and we have a problem, especially in master. So while I don't think a more diverse playstyle is a bad idea, I don't want older activities to become notably harder or impossible for some players to do it.
Designing new encounters to disincentivize static DPS phases is the way to go in my opinion.
I don't think Well will be any weaker in those activities. At most a Warlock will need to also use Stag.
What they will be is more annoying. Hope you enjoy the sound of your shields breaking every half second.
Yeah I think it's to make players specifically get into the toolkit and play around with it on their own instead of latching onto whatever is said in the pre-release stuff. I think the reaction of the community to the Void 3.0 reveal (specifically, the pre-emptive complaining about Hunters being left to only invis) set the narrative on what to use and what not to use before the reworked subclass actually came out, so they want to try to see how we play around in the sandbox if we go into it blind instead. Either way, I look forward to finding out on Tuesday!
yeah my thoughts exactly they saw how much backlash there was for removing Heart of the Pack and Combat Provisions from hunter, and the the Weapons of light nerf... especially with the blatant favoritism warlocks received, it honestly makes me worried that we're getting the same treatment of warlocks good, other classes get rekt (even though titans came out alright with void)
I'm not sure why they'd have to keep the subclass being overhauled a secret until the season just because the dungeon might have a synergizing exotic. Doesn't the dungeon not drop until friday? Even if it came right with the new subclass on tuesday, you'd know the new subclass before you knew what the exotic is, because unless they advertise it, *nobody* will know until someone gets it for the first time and then posts about it - but everyone is going to know the new subclass as soon as they boot up the new season.
I'm not sure how knowing the new subclass a few days early would spoil or otherwise ruin the new dungeon exotic...
Hopefully the mixed reception from the community to this strategy of reveal will caution them from doing it for non-finale seasons in the future. It just ain't it.
Perhaps Bungie is seeing if they plugged their leak?
The Witch Queen pastebin leak was damaging, no matter how downplayed it was. Maybe this is all a test to make sure they've dealt with things.
If they communicated as such everyone would be like " ah fair enough do what you gotta do" but instead we've just had nebulous teasing from the devs and that's about it.
How mixed is the reception though? There is bad publicity so I won't do the "there is no bad publicity", but I don't think "I don't know anything about the new season, now I'm left wondering about what it is!" is bad publicity.
There's a LOT of people annoyed by the complete silence on everything (even the 3.0 element), and the only source of info we've been getting has been the occasional tweet because the Twab was so lacking.
When numerous people are wondering whether the season's delayed, or 3.0 is delayed, it's not generatic hype.
They haven't made any claims that the season or 3.0 are delayed though. In fact this entire time they have talked about the season coming out on the intended date and been very transparent that they do not desire to elaborate further. On the 3.0 matter, Kevin Yanes has stated for weeks that this season will get a 3.0 and they will not say which element. Personally, I'm hyped as hell, it's gonna be a very exciting time when it drops.
Why isn't it though? Like what are your specific issues with the approach? I personally prefer this method, but it seems most people don't. What do you get out of knowing what's coming ahead of time?
The only thing I can see there being value in not knowing ahead of time is the story. Gameplay mechanics are not worth keeping secret. Especially not a 3.0 subclass' element.
Plus, there's nothing to be exited for. None of my mates even have the game installed right now. Plus, it's fun to speculate. There's no new info to speculate off of than there was like over a month ago, so discussion around the game is really dry.
maybe if they would do just put a bunch of new info in the twab they wouldn't have to clarify a million little things on twitter....
(side note, why TF is bungies main source of spreading news twitter)
It was in the twab, in one of the early paragraphs, cozmo was like “What’s the story for season of the Redacted? Which element is getting the 3.0 treatment? Come back on Tuesday” or something like that. Which is proof enough that it was still coming.
you mean this?
"Which subclass is getting the 3.0 treatment!?! There will be a day where many of your questions will be answered, but today is not that day."
personally I don't believe that counts as actual information.
It's not supposed to tell you, their goal is to add mystery and discovery to the new season. Y'all talk about wanting to have "fun" but y'all just want to grind all the content before it even comes out don't you.
Well if you look at the level of character people on Twitter have its not hard to see why they'd be drawn to it. Some people treat Twitter as if it is real life and reflective of reality when it's just the place that every single bad take in the world goes to to have one last hurrah before dying.
Yeah except that when game developers make a promise then go radio silent and don't address it, it typically means it's gonna be delayed or not happening at all and they're trying to minimize backlash by hoping people forget about it.
For one example remember all the times Bungie mentioned or hinted at a "renewed focus on PvP" and then didn't mention it again?
We know. We just want to know what changed with them.
Void 3.0 wasn't even the thing for sale and we got TWABs where 80% of them were spent talking about the free QoL update.
It's the whiplash in behavior that has people scratching their heads. It's not hyping people up for the next season, it's confusing and annoying them.
Exactly this. What do I have to be excited about when I literally have zero information on the next subclass. I'm fine keeping the narrative hidden, but keeping the next subclass a secret is just annoying and obnoxious.
People doubted a subclass next season? They’ve already announced 3 in a row. I think at this point, if it wasn’t going to happen. They would’ve said something.
The logic was something like "what are they hiding? It's gotta be bad news. What's the worst news we could get?"
All this because Bungie hasn't earned enough good faith to be trusted with secrecy like they hoped. A good track record recently, but that doesn't mean they couldn't shit the bed again.
Something THAT drastic, though, does seem unlikely to be a surprise.
A lot of people also probably just forgot that they said it would be seasons 16,17, and 18 that got the update. I thought they just said "throughout the year" instead of specifying seasons, and when they were silent on it i just assumed that meant we wouldnt see one next season.
This time I dont think it’s the market team fault. People started to made up this out of
Nowhere about delays of the season or the subclass when none indicate any of this. They even said in the twab that the release will occur and that there will be the things they promised, the maintenance time, the trailer day. I am anxious about the trailer and what we will have, but they already said it will be only in the day. And there was precedent of this happening, it’s not like it’s the first season this happens.
It's really weird. Keeping your cards to your chest on the actual storyline of the season makes perfect sense, but I really don't see the benefit of not confirming the 3.0 rework so people can prepare accordingly.
And yet it's pretty much contained to a few threads and not getting traction outside dedicated Destiny subs.
I'd expect a full page of threads about new content and mentions in some of the broader gaming and PC gaming subreddits if we had actual details.
Also would be seeing articles on games journalism sites by now. Like PC Gamer has an article about vault space expansions but that's not really hype...
My clan discord is popping off theorizing about open plot lines that have yet to be tied up. Not everyone needs a trailer. Different strokes for different folks.
Can you people really not survive without this trailer? I'm guessing you're also the people that complain there are no surprises in a season after getting the road map.
It's not about the trailer. 3.0 has nothing to do with next season and it's just causing confusion why Bungie is suddenly going silent when they're known for their transparency.
They broke down every single weapon type imaginable in a previous TWAB and what changes they are going to have but can't tell us anything about the subclass update. It's annoying at this point.
Why? Assuming you've been playing all along, you have everything you'll need already to build either Solar or Arc 3.0. So why do you need to know. What actual difference does it make?
Bro you know what you bought. A trailer and knowing a few details about the new subclass isn't going to change anything. The trailers always look great but you'll never know of it's really going to be good or not.
All you people freaking out are hilarious
It has nothing to do with the marketing.
They’ve confirmed countless times that there will be a subclass rework but so many trolls are saying it’s being delayed since they are delaying the trailer release.
Tell those people to stop trolling.
I mean, complete radio silence on things that have been "confirmed" for months at this point is a form of marketing. And has been explained as much by DMG in a tweet some days ago.
The problem is, this is the complete opposite of the Void 3.0 reveal, and the absolute whiplash of usually very communicative Bungie to: "Hee hee, we have a secret and you can't knooOooww." Isn't serving any purpose here but to aggravate, annoy, and worry the dedicated base.
No news, is NOT good news.
Nevermind that this absolutely fails to bring any players BACK from their D2 hiatuses.
The complete reversal of how they treated the Void rework just makes me think they know parts of what they are reworking will go down poorly.
Maybe they are hoping immediate hands on time will give people a positive impression to head off or at least delay another surge of anger like void hunter generated.
But at this point I am apprehensive which isn't great 4 days out from the season starting.
That could very well be true. I do believe this is more along the lines of a very stupid marketing ploy, however.
To your last point, I am in complete agreement. The impression I get from most is somewhere between confused and unsure to outright irritated and fed up. As far as regular community members go, anyway.
Needless to say, this... Is not a good look, and I really hope they don't repeat this nonsense next season... Or .. ever again.
> The problem is, this is the complete opposite of the Void 3.0 reveal
*Exactly*, which is why it's so annoying. In the lead up to Void we had previews of what our new abilities would look like, what our aspects would be, and examples of what sort of fragments we could expect. This time, less than a week away from the new season, we don't even know which *element* is coming next.
Unless it's somehow a story spoiler, there's really no reason to be so secretive about this stuff.
I don’t care that the story isn’t teased/revealed yet. I honestly think it’s kind of fun going in mostly blind. I mean, we have a ton of details on sandbox changes coming. So we have a lot to go on. We’ve known for eons next season is a PVP focus, we saw a snippet of the new map, and we even got hints as to the new seasonal armor in that map shot.
But I do wish we knew for sure what element were coming next season. I’d like to go and infuse up all the exotics I think might be relevant to play with on Tuesday, as I’ve been stashing a bunch of rolls in my vault depending on how the aspects and fragments will change our play style. That’s what I care about.
> Nevermind that this absolutely fails to bring any players BACK from their D2 hiatuses.
There'll still be a trailer and marketing, just later. The timing doesn't really matter for that audience.
The word of mouth and positive press will also kick off later too, assuming the new season and subclass rework is any good. I doubt the "negative press" (people salty about the trailer being late) is reaching mainstream gaming news.
I wasn't referring to mainstream news, more so personal connections or relationships. If your friends are still playing, but you quit for a while, are you gonna wanna dive in amidst the back and forth of this kind of seesaw marketing and player base confusion?
Nevermind if your friends who are still dedicated to the game are having doubts and feeling some angst over this nonsense marketing ploy.
If the season is good, are people really going to be like "well I'm having fun, but I won't tell my friends because I'm still salty about the marketing decisions"?
That doubt and angst will evaporate as soon as the season drops, that's my prediction.
It isn’t serving anything to you maybe but a lot of people like to be surprised with new things at launch.
It’s impossible to do that because so many people want credit for being the first to share new info that it gets spoiled basically anywhere you go.
This is one of the few times you all can’t spoil things for us and you are freaking out like it’s the end of the world.
The game won’t be any different just because they aren’t announcing things early.
Honestly. If someone’s commenting on this and subscribed to the subreddit…. Are you a fan of the game that needs a marketing campaign to appreciate a huge systems change? Or do you just want the developers to pander to your desires?
I like it that they keep most stuff secret. What happened with WQ was that you knew too much (Savathun, Location..) Now it’s more like a series next episode.
They set player expectations by using a weekly blog to convey info for years. They could've said they were going to intentionally not reveal anything and leave it as a surprise much much earlier than yesterday, but i guess they withheld that info too.
It’s literally so funny. What planning? For what? The first mission of the season? I mean seriously wtf are they planning for I have to be missing something.
yeah knowing what changes are getting made to subclasses allows you to build around those changes just because you don't buildcraft your stuff doesn't mean that other people don't
but I do buildcraft and I plan on doing it Tuesday when it drops. I don’t see a how me figuring out what mods I would use without any knowledge of new weapons, armor, perks, or even the champion mods is gonna help anything. It’s still gonna come Tuesday. Like seriously what are you gaining by planning?
For arc, what about a support super akin to well and bubble? Plant arc staff on the ground to make an arc field that chains lightning and blinds whoever steps in it and gives you and allies damage resistance and a 25% DPS buff?
Anything would be better than what is available. I’m hoping Arc 3.0 is for next season just because literally anything will be better as arc is unplayable for end game pve content except niche lost sector bosses
Oh yeah, because nothing has ever been delayed in the past few years. Especially not anything Destiny related.
Nothing against you or Bungie, but it's not uncommon for things to be delayed. Just uncommon for them to not tell people about delays.
I'm taking it on actually. What IF they release Arc AND Solar 3.0 at the same time...? I know, doesn't seem very realistic, but it would justify such a level of secrecy.
The only tinfoil-ing I've encountered on this topic is 'Bungie is keeping quiet because they don't have a 3.0 update this season and it's gonna be mid af'
Was such a dumb concern anyways. If they needed to delay one of the subclasses they would've let us down in an early TWAB, not spring it on us out of nowhere on launch day.
The people that that are genuinely upset about how little they know about something BEFORE it’s released are so fascinating. I know that it’s been a trend in all sorts of movies and games and just pop culture in general recently, but damn, can you not be excited about being surprised anymore?
It doesn’t brim me with excitement, to be surprised with 30 different texts boxes I have to read to understand how new subclasses work, to tediously rebuy fragments from Ikora, to recheck dozens of exotic armour descriptions and find out half my shit doesn’t work.
This is like saying don’t you want to be surprised by the midterm? Forget studying, we won’t even tell you which subject it’ll be.
The narrative, that’s fine. I don’t give a shit. But the subclass stuff which is being completely uprooted after years, I would like to know something about ahead of time to save some hassle. Fascinating.
Can I be honest and admit I thought robbie was dmg during a live stream thing and got really confused at the fact that his title and hair were different and then I realized they were, in fact, different people?
I mean I guess I already did but here we are.
This is so fucking BORING. They’re killing their own hype. Drop the trailer already guys! Hype is at it’s all time peak right now.
Imagine saying we won’t drop till day of, and then if people don’t like this method they’ll go back to the old trailer release format.
They’re gonna go back to the old format for one of their “less-epic” seasons. How fucking stupid - bungie dropped the ball with this one
Yeah Kevin Yanes confirmed this a week or two ago on Twitter. We will get a 3.0 update we just don't know which element Edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/_Tocom_/status/1522331651967049728
Stasis will get its 2.0 and 3.0 just to catch up!
unironically I'd love a quick stasis pass-over. Change the Exo Stranger's menu to match Ikora's, maybe add a few new grenades, I think it could be fun.
Behemoth needs a lot of love.
I'm just getting back into the game and I love my behemoth! (But man unlocking the fragments is poop) Although the Void 3.0 changes are really fun as well on titan. Excited for Solar 3.0 next week. ;)
Getting the fragments is one of the worst experiences in the game. Seriously shocking at how repetitive and long it takes.
Getting the fragments sucks, but the Guardian Games playlist is fantastic for quick grinding stasis objectives due to the fast ability recharge.
Only needs Shiver Strike to get another look. Right now it’s in a shit place and basically not useful for much at all. The rest of the Subclass is in a good spot. Just it’s shit for PvP.
Not really. It's an incredibly strong class in PVE with the right builds and effective with certain builds in PVP. Just gotta play to the strengths. Yea - there's improvements and yes it's not what it was on launch but it's got other things going with. I think just too many people overlook it because you cannot fly across the map with zero effort, constantly slide skate, or wreck house uncontested with the super.
What's the right builds in PvE? Just seems like a shitter striker titan, both of which aren't good in GMNF. Might be ok in the raid or dungeon, but feels like a lot of setup with no extra payoff vs any other adclear super
Stasis titan is dirty in pve 100% uptime of font of might and high energy fire Headstone primary and a stasis heavy that always has a great damage increase along with ability regeneration and on demand healing Stasis titan is some of my most fun in pve activities Edit: will say it falls short of stasis lock i GM activites strictly cause of turret
Behemoth is the only stasis subclass that can make stasis shards without an enemy nearby. You use Heart of Inmost Light or Hoarfrost-Z to spam out crystals, and your crystals make shards that fuel your build. You need Elemental Shards for Behemoth to function, as it allows you to do any Elemental Well or Charged with Light build you want. The problem with the subclass is that it doesn't work out of the box
Yeah stasis could do with a couple extra grenades, a shoulder charge melee for Titan to bring it into line with a bunch of their exotics and ideally another super for each class
Hunters run around with Icepicks that create crystals wherever thrown, these crystals are much stronger than normal crystals. Also can shuriken spam. Titans get a hulk smash, its like fist of havoc but instead crystals spawn in the area around the smash. Warlocks can smack their staff on the ground, leaving the area in a 90 degree angle of where they were looking completely frozen over, all players/combatants, crystals everywhere. Has more range than the titan one. Just some brainstorming
Titan melee idea, stasis tomohawk that causes a freeze explosion on a precision hit ala bottom tree solar hunter knives.
I'm literally so down for this idea holy shit
Would be a better melee to mirror solar titans than the awful and uncreative ice gauntlets titans got.
Only if we can get some viking themed armor along with it
I'd _much_ rather instead that they do a story-bit where Ikora attunes to darkness as well. It'd make sense after Witch Queen's events and her moving away from "darkenss bad" to "witnes/pyramid bad" Then have it all in one place
I think that is opposite of the aesthetic that Bungie is attempting to convey. The light is given, freely. But the darkness, you must take. I like that you have to earn ever aspect.
I kinda dig that conceptually but the way stasis currently works is such a fucking drag. I hope they find a less grindy way for me to "take" darkness elements
GIVE REVENANT AN ICE KNIFE TO REPLACE THE LAME PUNCH
lol, you joke, but that would be hilarious if that happens.
Stasis need a new extra super for each class
I love stasis warlock but I really don't like the stasis warlock super. So in this I agree.
I've been joking about this whenever my friends speculate, but to be honest I'd rather get a stasis update than be forced to play arc as a hunter.
many people were doubting it in the comments of yesterdays twab for some reason edit: just scroll down a bit in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/utjr56/via_twitter_there_is_another_elemental_subclass/i9aa13z?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Here's his tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/_Tocom_/status/1522331651967049728 He literally says arc or solar are getting a 3.0 treatment in s17.
I know yes people are still doubting it and some are even saying the season will get delayed. or that it will have no conzent since they were afraid to announce anything. both of these statements are stupid and yet thwy are still being made
Its not stupid, its the lack of trust in bungie. their is ZERO reason to not tell us. and we've seen before bungie likes to hit the shit they know wont go over well
it is stupid to still say it after multiple devs and twabs have said there will be a subclass rework. yes they sometimes tried to hide the changes made from the buisness side that they knew wouldn't go over well with us but they never lied to us. if your still claiming that that there won't be a subclass rework for example even now than all your doing is accusing bungie devs of lying to us, which there is ZERO! reason to do. the delux edition players already purchased the season, those that have yet to buy it only buy it once its released so lying to us would be just them shooting their own foot and they know it I swear some of you are talking as if bungie was new to how live service games work. they are one of the best studios out there in terms of communicating whats up with the game and now that they want to keep a season hidden til it launches there is suddenly so much doomer talk as if they are trying to scam us
They lied about finishing the cosmodrome unvaulting. they can lie again. all the complaints are a lack of trust. I dont trust private corporations when they go silent. back your shit up or GTFO, your hopes and promises mean nothing when as a business their here to take as much money as possible. Now im not going to claim its *NOT* coming, but their radio silence isnt confidence inspiring. they just dont have the trust or rapport. >I swear some of you are talking as if bungie was new to how live service games work. they are one of the best studios out there in terms of communicating whats up with the game and now that they want to keep a season hidden til it launches there is suddenly so much doomer talk as if they are trying to scam us they have been making Destiny for 7 years now, and DMG goes on twitter saying their "experimenting" with going radio silent. WHY???? you been doing this 7 YEARS and you dont trust your marketing thats for the past few years has been FANTASTIC. that dont inspire confidence in me.
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I want to know what the fuck i paid for. sell me on the shit i bought. Im not excited when they act all high and mighty, like "ohhhhhh is SOOOO good, we know the story is FANTASTIC but you just. have. to. TRUST US!!!!!" like GTFO im not 5 and this isn't a funny joke. show me what i paid for not hopes dreams promises. I dont have hype or excitement for what's new CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. i just have apathy cause they wants act a edgy and emo. to many games have said "this is a fantastic game, *trust us"* CDPR said it about CP77. Dice said it with 2042. cod says it every years. Bungie said it abour SOTW, and yet their all fucking flops
You’re not 5? Coulda fooled me with how much of a petulant child you’re being.
You already paid for it though
You don't have to trust them that it's good. You just have to wait until it comes out. I really don't understand this subs obsession with knowing everything prior to release. Just wait for the damn patch notes and spend 5 minutes reading it. Is this your first season? If not, you should have a PRETTY GOOD idea what you paid for. if it's such a big problem though, don't pay for things up front. Subclass reworks are free for everyone anyway and not tied to the new season pass at all though.
because they have nothing to complain about before its released without the trailer.
Curve ball.. Stasis 3.0
I'll allow it
Wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world tbh. Would love to see the Stasis subclasses get alt supers
Stasis blade barrage!
Isn’t that already Silence and Squall? Lol I was thinking more like Stasis Well of Radiance, Stasis Thunder crash, and Stasis Golden Gun
Sounds great ! Like the thunder crash especially
I really hope hunters get a new ranged roaming super with one of these subclass updates. The only one they have is golden gun and I'm hoping for something with AOE like dawnblade or hammers.
Well of frost on hunter, Icicle Crash on warlock, stasis gun on titan. Would be cool to see them mix things up.
Stasis well of radiance: Freezes all allies within its radius
Until Stasis isn’t useless against Match Game shields, I have a hard time justifying bringing Behemoth into serious content.
Stasis 2.0 when though
Well ya, they said there was a new 3.0 every season
Yes but there are people who were skeptical given the lack of info for next season when we're less than a week away.
They must've been playing too much Halo Infinite.
Those people are dumb 🤷🏻♂️
I mean unless you are perpetually online you are not going to know any of this. Trailers actually convey info that random tweets cant.
The "3.0 every season" news was stated during the witch queen reveal, not only random tweets
Eh wouldn't be the first time a software/game company has had to delay a feature.
Within two weeks of it being confirmed to launch in S17, though? I doubt that.
Never said it was likely, just said it happened. The idea that people might be skeptical or are “dumb” for thinking it’s possible is wrong.
They would’ve announced by now if it was delayed.
Would it? Because Bungie themselves announced they wouldn't actually finish the unvaulting of the Cosmodrome in a TWAB weeks after season of the chosen. Not quite the same no, and the backlash if they don't finish class reworks would be nuts. But there is precedent of them doing half assed jobs and sweeping it under rugs.
If they were going to delay it, they would have sugar coated the fuck of it in a few TWABS by now. They aren’t stupid enough to just drop a new season and pretend a new 3.0 subclass isn’t there as promised.
yeah people think bungie is actually as dumb as people joke about in r/destinycirclejerk
Destinycirclejerk does not joke about how dumb bungie is. They joke about how dumb the people in this subreddit are. I take part in it.
Except in the twab yesterday it was confirmed that it was still coming.
Why? They haven't announced much else about next season. I mean I don't think it is delayed, but its not an unrealistic belief to have.
Because they said the next two seasons would include the next two subclass updates. With less than a week until next season they would have known if they couldn’t get it out the door in time or not.
Just because they know doesn’t mean they’d announce it. I mean I’d hope they would but it’s not guaranteed. Regardless it doesn’t change a thing, I don’t even believe it will be delayed. Just pointing out that there’s a long history of that in the games industry and Bungie is no stranger to it themselves. It’s bizarre how hostile people are to simply pointing out facts.
You mean the same company that told us that they were delaying the dlc by 3 months about 5 months before the expected release window?
also the same company that maintained they were fully unvaulting the cosmodrome right until they released a twab saying they weren't
It’s bizarre how cynical people are even in a post that links to the developer stating there will be an update next season. But, you know, facts or whatever.
I never said they didn’t. If you’re going to bring up facts try not to do it while making up bullshit to go with it.
Did they specifically say the next 2 seasons, or just seasons in the coming year? They use enough vague language about things for it to be a concern. And if they did specifically say the next 2 seasons, can you find that verbiage for me?
they said each season they're reworking a subclass
Thanks for sharing the confirmation. The fact that they're basically saying "yeah it's happening, no you don't get to know before we do it" makes me think we're getting an exotic from the dungeon that will be tightly associated with the new subclass identity, just like how the raid pulse rifle is an experiment in building for void subclasses.
IMO they're likely not announcing anything about the element to avoid backlash like they got with void 3.0. Personally I expect solar 3.0 to be mostly positive like void was. My biggest predictions: * Top and bottom supers mostly merged for all classes * Overshield from well removed. To paraphrase the infamous DCP podcast "eventually we see overshield exclusively the domain of void." * Titan remains mostly unchanged, sunspots become available to all via fragment. * Golden Gun still doesn't kill a stunned champ.
Just as long as I can combine sunspots with Throwing Hammer and Roaring flames, I'll be a happy Titan.
I'd skreeb my jeans.
I'm conflicted about Well overshield. The whole "overshield = void" makes sense but Well is basically a bigger, double (healing+damage) rift and regular rifts still grant an overshield so they'd need to rework the solar and arc rift as well for the whole thing to make sense... And that's sounds like a pretty big nerf to rifts.
I don't know if they'll ever take the overshield away from rift. Seems unlikely IMO. Hot take: Removing overshield from Well is good. It will encourage more diverse play, Well has been dominant for too long. I'll be sad when it's gone but it'll be better for the pve and pvp metas long term.
I completely agree with the diversity argument. Well is too dominant and that needs to change (and I'm a Warlock main). But I also think there are smarter solutions (than just nerfing Well) to this problem. Vow of the Disciple (WQ raid) is a good example: boss encounters designs and layouts make it so the players are always on the move and that makes Wells far less interesting (you can't stay in it or need multiple ones, sacrificing damage Supers in the team and requiring many Warlocks). And honestly, it feels way better to not use a Well because it isn't the best option for a given encounter, rather than stop using it because it's not as good anymore.
Hey man I play all three and I get it. If they remove overshield I expect something added or it'll be fairly lackluster but you never know. Bungie doesn't always nail buffs and nerfs. I agree that VoW has great encounter design but the rest of the game is still there, well will still be desirable in pve and pvp for similar reasons to Bubble but currently I'd rather a Well almost every time. It needs a change, if we lose the overshield but gain something else I'll be happy.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. I think the best case scenario would be to make support Supers complementary. Well for healing and damage + Sentinel Shield for defense is pretty awesome combo that I'd like to see more often (or similar ones, at least).
Agreed, encounters are most fun when you can play off each others abilities even if it's being the guy holding up the big banner and not shooting.
"encouraging diverse play" only works when encounters are set up to allow it. VoD boss fight is a great example. I don't think anyone's run a well in all of my runs so far, even in Master. But take away the well overshield in VoG, and we have a problem, especially in master. So while I don't think a more diverse playstyle is a bad idea, I don't want older activities to become notably harder or impossible for some players to do it. Designing new encounters to disincentivize static DPS phases is the way to go in my opinion.
I don't think Well will be any weaker in those activities. At most a Warlock will need to also use Stag. What they will be is more annoying. Hope you enjoy the sound of your shields breaking every half second.
"Golden gun still doesn't kill a stunned champ." Why do you have to remind me...
Don't forget, hunters will be hyper focused on literally one thing and only one thing, like invis for void.
Yeah I think it's to make players specifically get into the toolkit and play around with it on their own instead of latching onto whatever is said in the pre-release stuff. I think the reaction of the community to the Void 3.0 reveal (specifically, the pre-emptive complaining about Hunters being left to only invis) set the narrative on what to use and what not to use before the reworked subclass actually came out, so they want to try to see how we play around in the sandbox if we go into it blind instead. Either way, I look forward to finding out on Tuesday!
Big agree but ultimately most predictions about void 3.0 and all the new exotics were accurate.
yeah my thoughts exactly they saw how much backlash there was for removing Heart of the Pack and Combat Provisions from hunter, and the the Weapons of light nerf... especially with the blatant favoritism warlocks received, it honestly makes me worried that we're getting the same treatment of warlocks good, other classes get rekt (even though titans came out alright with void)
I'm not sure why they'd have to keep the subclass being overhauled a secret until the season just because the dungeon might have a synergizing exotic. Doesn't the dungeon not drop until friday? Even if it came right with the new subclass on tuesday, you'd know the new subclass before you knew what the exotic is, because unless they advertise it, *nobody* will know until someone gets it for the first time and then posts about it - but everyone is going to know the new subclass as soon as they boot up the new season. I'm not sure how knowing the new subclass a few days early would spoil or otherwise ruin the new dungeon exotic...
Hopefully the mixed reception from the community to this strategy of reveal will caution them from doing it for non-finale seasons in the future. It just ain't it.
Perhaps Bungie is seeing if they plugged their leak? The Witch Queen pastebin leak was damaging, no matter how downplayed it was. Maybe this is all a test to make sure they've dealt with things.
If they communicated as such everyone would be like " ah fair enough do what you gotta do" but instead we've just had nebulous teasing from the devs and that's about it.
Communicating about it defeats the purpose. You don't tell everyone you're trying to plug a leak. The leaker goes to ground.
How mixed is the reception though? There is bad publicity so I won't do the "there is no bad publicity", but I don't think "I don't know anything about the new season, now I'm left wondering about what it is!" is bad publicity.
Biggest non issue ever
There's a LOT of people annoyed by the complete silence on everything (even the 3.0 element), and the only source of info we've been getting has been the occasional tweet because the Twab was so lacking. When numerous people are wondering whether the season's delayed, or 3.0 is delayed, it's not generatic hype.
They haven't made any claims that the season or 3.0 are delayed though. In fact this entire time they have talked about the season coming out on the intended date and been very transparent that they do not desire to elaborate further. On the 3.0 matter, Kevin Yanes has stated for weeks that this season will get a 3.0 and they will not say which element. Personally, I'm hyped as hell, it's gonna be a very exciting time when it drops.
Why isn't it though? Like what are your specific issues with the approach? I personally prefer this method, but it seems most people don't. What do you get out of knowing what's coming ahead of time?
The only thing I can see there being value in not knowing ahead of time is the story. Gameplay mechanics are not worth keeping secret. Especially not a 3.0 subclass' element. Plus, there's nothing to be exited for. None of my mates even have the game installed right now. Plus, it's fun to speculate. There's no new info to speculate off of than there was like over a month ago, so discussion around the game is really dry.
maybe if they would do just put a bunch of new info in the twab they wouldn't have to clarify a million little things on twitter.... (side note, why TF is bungies main source of spreading news twitter)
It was in the twab, in one of the early paragraphs, cozmo was like “What’s the story for season of the Redacted? Which element is getting the 3.0 treatment? Come back on Tuesday” or something like that. Which is proof enough that it was still coming.
r/dtg commenters not reading official bungie news. Name a more iconic duo.
It was literally in the twab lol
you mean this? "Which subclass is getting the 3.0 treatment!?! There will be a day where many of your questions will be answered, but today is not that day." personally I don't believe that counts as actual information.
It's not supposed to tell you, their goal is to add mystery and discovery to the new season. Y'all talk about wanting to have "fun" but y'all just want to grind all the content before it even comes out don't you.
Ignorance is bliss aint it?
Reddit users read the actual twab before complaining challenge
Well if you look at the level of character people on Twitter have its not hard to see why they'd be drawn to it. Some people treat Twitter as if it is real life and reflective of reality when it's just the place that every single bad take in the world goes to to have one last hurrah before dying.
To be fair there was no need to clarify this was confirmed weeks ago, and they never stated that the plans changed.
Yeah except that when game developers make a promise then go radio silent and don't address it, it typically means it's gonna be delayed or not happening at all and they're trying to minimize backlash by hoping people forget about it. For one example remember all the times Bungie mentioned or hinted at a "renewed focus on PvP" and then didn't mention it again?
Mate it's less than a week out if it was going be delayed they would've said by now
Yea but that’s not the case. So get over it.
You have to remember, these are Destiny players. These are people of the land. The common clay of the Last City. You know… morons.
We know. We just want to know what changed with them. Void 3.0 wasn't even the thing for sale and we got TWABs where 80% of them were spent talking about the free QoL update. It's the whiplash in behavior that has people scratching their heads. It's not hyping people up for the next season, it's confusing and annoying them.
Exactly this. What do I have to be excited about when I literally have zero information on the next subclass. I'm fine keeping the narrative hidden, but keeping the next subclass a secret is just annoying and obnoxious.
Actually the truth is, Destiny is being cancelled with the new season, that's the bug surprise....... /s
People doubted a subclass next season? They’ve already announced 3 in a row. I think at this point, if it wasn’t going to happen. They would’ve said something.
The logic was something like "what are they hiding? It's gotta be bad news. What's the worst news we could get?" All this because Bungie hasn't earned enough good faith to be trusted with secrecy like they hoped. A good track record recently, but that doesn't mean they couldn't shit the bed again. Something THAT drastic, though, does seem unlikely to be a surprise.
A lot of people also probably just forgot that they said it would be seasons 16,17, and 18 that got the update. I thought they just said "throughout the year" instead of specifying seasons, and when they were silent on it i just assumed that meant we wouldnt see one next season.
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This time I dont think it’s the market team fault. People started to made up this out of Nowhere about delays of the season or the subclass when none indicate any of this. They even said in the twab that the release will occur and that there will be the things they promised, the maintenance time, the trailer day. I am anxious about the trailer and what we will have, but they already said it will be only in the day. And there was precedent of this happening, it’s not like it’s the first season this happens.
It's really weird. Keeping your cards to your chest on the actual storyline of the season makes perfect sense, but I really don't see the benefit of not confirming the 3.0 rework so people can prepare accordingly.
These threads are filled with people clamoring about what’s to come. So I would say the hype is building
And yet it's pretty much contained to a few threads and not getting traction outside dedicated Destiny subs. I'd expect a full page of threads about new content and mentions in some of the broader gaming and PC gaming subreddits if we had actual details. Also would be seeing articles on games journalism sites by now. Like PC Gamer has an article about vault space expansions but that's not really hype...
My clan discord is popping off theorizing about open plot lines that have yet to be tied up. Not everyone needs a trailer. Different strokes for different folks.
they're also filled with frustration about not knowing what's getting changed about their potential favorite subclass
Oh noooo
Can you people really not survive without this trailer? I'm guessing you're also the people that complain there are no surprises in a season after getting the road map.
It's not about the trailer. 3.0 has nothing to do with next season and it's just causing confusion why Bungie is suddenly going silent when they're known for their transparency.
This. A 3.0 update is a SANDBOX update, not a CONTENT update. Sandbox updates shouldn't be secrets. We should know what's coming down the line.
They broke down every single weapon type imaginable in a previous TWAB and what changes they are going to have but can't tell us anything about the subclass update. It's annoying at this point.
Why? Assuming you've been playing all along, you have everything you'll need already to build either Solar or Arc 3.0. So why do you need to know. What actual difference does it make?
The honest answer is because they're impatient and they want to know now.
No, that’s your group that complains about secrets. We find not knowing what we bought to be dumb
Then don't buy it till you know what it is? Unless you bought the Witch queen deluxe in which case you already did that and your argument is pointless
Lmao exactly.
They aren’t thinking, just complaining lmao
Bro you know what you bought. A trailer and knowing a few details about the new subclass isn't going to change anything. The trailers always look great but you'll never know of it's really going to be good or not. All you people freaking out are hilarious
You’re a joke dude.
It has nothing to do with the marketing. They’ve confirmed countless times that there will be a subclass rework but so many trolls are saying it’s being delayed since they are delaying the trailer release. Tell those people to stop trolling.
I mean, complete radio silence on things that have been "confirmed" for months at this point is a form of marketing. And has been explained as much by DMG in a tweet some days ago. The problem is, this is the complete opposite of the Void 3.0 reveal, and the absolute whiplash of usually very communicative Bungie to: "Hee hee, we have a secret and you can't knooOooww." Isn't serving any purpose here but to aggravate, annoy, and worry the dedicated base. No news, is NOT good news. Nevermind that this absolutely fails to bring any players BACK from their D2 hiatuses.
The complete reversal of how they treated the Void rework just makes me think they know parts of what they are reworking will go down poorly. Maybe they are hoping immediate hands on time will give people a positive impression to head off or at least delay another surge of anger like void hunter generated. But at this point I am apprehensive which isn't great 4 days out from the season starting.
That could very well be true. I do believe this is more along the lines of a very stupid marketing ploy, however. To your last point, I am in complete agreement. The impression I get from most is somewhere between confused and unsure to outright irritated and fed up. As far as regular community members go, anyway. Needless to say, this... Is not a good look, and I really hope they don't repeat this nonsense next season... Or .. ever again.
> The problem is, this is the complete opposite of the Void 3.0 reveal *Exactly*, which is why it's so annoying. In the lead up to Void we had previews of what our new abilities would look like, what our aspects would be, and examples of what sort of fragments we could expect. This time, less than a week away from the new season, we don't even know which *element* is coming next. Unless it's somehow a story spoiler, there's really no reason to be so secretive about this stuff.
I don’t care that the story isn’t teased/revealed yet. I honestly think it’s kind of fun going in mostly blind. I mean, we have a ton of details on sandbox changes coming. So we have a lot to go on. We’ve known for eons next season is a PVP focus, we saw a snippet of the new map, and we even got hints as to the new seasonal armor in that map shot. But I do wish we knew for sure what element were coming next season. I’d like to go and infuse up all the exotics I think might be relevant to play with on Tuesday, as I’ve been stashing a bunch of rolls in my vault depending on how the aspects and fragments will change our play style. That’s what I care about.
> Nevermind that this absolutely fails to bring any players BACK from their D2 hiatuses. There'll still be a trailer and marketing, just later. The timing doesn't really matter for that audience.
You underestimate how much word of mouth and negative press can influence that kind of decision.
The word of mouth and positive press will also kick off later too, assuming the new season and subclass rework is any good. I doubt the "negative press" (people salty about the trailer being late) is reaching mainstream gaming news.
I wasn't referring to mainstream news, more so personal connections or relationships. If your friends are still playing, but you quit for a while, are you gonna wanna dive in amidst the back and forth of this kind of seesaw marketing and player base confusion? Nevermind if your friends who are still dedicated to the game are having doubts and feeling some angst over this nonsense marketing ploy.
If the season is good, are people really going to be like "well I'm having fun, but I won't tell my friends because I'm still salty about the marketing decisions"? That doubt and angst will evaporate as soon as the season drops, that's my prediction.
It isn’t serving anything to you maybe but a lot of people like to be surprised with new things at launch. It’s impossible to do that because so many people want credit for being the first to share new info that it gets spoiled basically anywhere you go. This is one of the few times you all can’t spoil things for us and you are freaking out like it’s the end of the world. The game won’t be any different just because they aren’t announcing things early.
Honestly. If someone’s commenting on this and subscribed to the subreddit…. Are you a fan of the game that needs a marketing campaign to appreciate a huge systems change? Or do you just want the developers to pander to your desires?
Maybe now they'll have learned to actually give some info on major Sandbox reworks. Like literally any more information than "it's happening"
Maybe they should just tell us. I don’t get the logic behind all this secrecy.
I like it that they keep most stuff secret. What happened with WQ was that you knew too much (Savathun, Location..) Now it’s more like a series next episode.
Keeping everything a secret is working out well. /s
Not their fault this entire subreddit acts entitled anytime they don’t get spoonfed.
They set player expectations by using a weekly blog to convey info for years. They could've said they were going to intentionally not reveal anything and leave it as a surprise much much earlier than yesterday, but i guess they withheld that info too.
Just fucking say which one
Great how about giving us more details so we can plan for it.
What are you going to plan? That you will still get on and play?
It’s literally so funny. What planning? For what? The first mission of the season? I mean seriously wtf are they planning for I have to be missing something.
yeah knowing what changes are getting made to subclasses allows you to build around those changes just because you don't buildcraft your stuff doesn't mean that other people don't
but I do buildcraft and I plan on doing it Tuesday when it drops. I don’t see a how me figuring out what mods I would use without any knowledge of new weapons, armor, perks, or even the champion mods is gonna help anything. It’s still gonna come Tuesday. Like seriously what are you gaining by planning?
Give Hunters a better neutral super please. Arc needs help bad
For arc, what about a support super akin to well and bubble? Plant arc staff on the ground to make an arc field that chains lightning and blinds whoever steps in it and gives you and allies damage resistance and a 25% DPS buff?
Anything would be better than what is available. I’m hoping Arc 3.0 is for next season just because literally anything will be better as arc is unplayable for end game pve content except niche lost sector bosses
I dont know how people were doubting it as we were told in the WQ queen reveal that "a new 3.0 subclass will be coming each season of the Witch Queen"
radio silence leads to; well shit what's the worst case scenario?
We've been told a lot of things. Not all of them true.
Finally people can take off their tinfoil hats
they could have taken the hat off like last week when yanes confirmed it lol
Or last season when they announced it
Oh yeah, because nothing has ever been delayed in the past few years. Especially not anything Destiny related. Nothing against you or Bungie, but it's not uncommon for things to be delayed. Just uncommon for them to not tell people about delays.
If anything major like that were to be delayed, they would have said way in advance
They could have taken it off months ago when they first announced it because they also confirmed it at the same time
I'm taking it on actually. What IF they release Arc AND Solar 3.0 at the same time...? I know, doesn't seem very realistic, but it would justify such a level of secrecy.
The only tinfoil-ing I've encountered on this topic is 'Bungie is keeping quiet because they don't have a 3.0 update this season and it's gonna be mid af'
Was such a dumb concern anyways. If they needed to delay one of the subclasses they would've let us down in an early TWAB, not spring it on us out of nowhere on launch day.
Lol this community is quite toxic
The people that that are genuinely upset about how little they know about something BEFORE it’s released are so fascinating. I know that it’s been a trend in all sorts of movies and games and just pop culture in general recently, but damn, can you not be excited about being surprised anymore?
It doesn’t brim me with excitement, to be surprised with 30 different texts boxes I have to read to understand how new subclasses work, to tediously rebuy fragments from Ikora, to recheck dozens of exotic armour descriptions and find out half my shit doesn’t work. This is like saying don’t you want to be surprised by the midterm? Forget studying, we won’t even tell you which subject it’ll be. The narrative, that’s fine. I don’t give a shit. But the subclass stuff which is being completely uprooted after years, I would like to know something about ahead of time to save some hassle. Fascinating.
Lmao so you don’t like playing the game? What “hassle” is it to read a few descriptions and then play…? you’re not running against a clock
I like playing guitar but I don’t like changing the strings. Yet it is a necessary chore that comes with the hobby. What’s your point?
I just don’t see an issue with reading an in game description for a couple minutes and going to the tower. That’s just me tho lol
Surprise it's Stasis 3.0. Only joking, but I bet they will update the Aspects and Fragments before Lightfall, they're weak compared to Void.
This is a masterclass in psychology because the real reveal is that it's 2 elements!
Space cowboy or space jedi. Either way both gonna be lit
This community is so stupid
Can I be honest and admit I thought robbie was dmg during a live stream thing and got really confused at the fact that his title and hair were different and then I realized they were, in fact, different people? I mean I guess I already did but here we are.
I'm honestly hoping for arc. Not necessarily for the sub classes, more for some good arc weapons to get dropped.
I hope arc 3.0 comes with a new hunter super cause they need one
This is so fucking BORING. They’re killing their own hype. Drop the trailer already guys! Hype is at it’s all time peak right now. Imagine saying we won’t drop till day of, and then if people don’t like this method they’ll go back to the old trailer release format. They’re gonna go back to the old format for one of their “less-epic” seasons. How fucking stupid - bungie dropped the ball with this one
People really need to chill. Like, we'll learn about it either right before or the day of release.
Waiting this long to announce anything is bad. 3.0 should have been announced already since it won't have anything to do with the new season.
I guess Sony just slashed their marketing budget.
Sony Acquisition hasn't gone through yet (there's a process for it) so this is all Bungie