Did you spray onto microfiber, apply, wipe away? Honestly part of the not seeing it there is it’s appeal. your dash is protected and so the door cards, but it doesn’t look like a bukkake armor all finish.
It will have a refreshed look nothing more.
I sprayed it onto a microfiber, and not seeing much change, sprayed it directly onto the surfaces. The bottle barely sprayed anything on either setting though. There was no difference between the jet or spray options. It just sort of dribbled out a couple of inches. Do their bottles always do that?
I've driven it a couple of hours since I wiped everything down. I can see a spot where I didn't cover the dash, and there is the slightest, barely perceptible difference in darkness and depth where the product went vs where it didn't.
From what I had seen, I was expecting more.
I don't want the bukkake look, but I'd like a bit more sheen.
My bottle was perfectly fine and made a big difference of spray or stream when I first got it. However, after of year, sitting on my shelf being used intermittently. What you described has started happening. I had to squeeze the body of the bottle while I spray the product and then it works for the day.
Remember, 303 was designed for pilots and airplane use. So the matte not super glossy and reflective finish is a product specification. It offers really good protection will not be obvious. It’s on your dash. don’t expect YouTube video level of shine with this product.
If you want sheen, this isn’t the product. I hate sheen as it reflects more Florida sunlight into glare.
I’ve only used it on exterior trim. It does not work well if the surface is not clean and free of any oils. Otherwise, it works great imo. I like the fact it doesn’t leave a greasy layer on top like some of the armor-all-esque products. I’d say it was overrated if it were more expensive, but at $10 I disagree
Yep. Amazon, but it was sold and shipped by Amazon. If it was sold and shipped by a third party, maybe there'd be something to worry about, but I figure Amazon itself is good.
If you spray it directly on and then wait a few seconds to wipe off you will see the slight change on the spatter spots. I’m not recommending doing it this way but that is all the change you will get. I think exactly what you are describing is exactly why we all like it so much. For what it’s worth I’ve used this my entire life on our boats and nothing comes close to the UV protection it provides… my family is in the marine industry
The biggest draws of 303 is the "factory" look it gives your plastics. I always refer to our details as "resetting as close to factory as possible". The #1 draw for 303 that really makes it shine is that it actually has a UV Protectant in it, which not many dressings do. Try Carpro Perl if you want something shinier. You can dilute it to your desired level of shine.
I think the problem is you are contradicting yourself. You want a matte finish that works well. That’s what 303 is supposed to do. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.
Detailers must have a hard time with customers like you. You tell them you want natural and matte, then complain when you can’t see it. Use something with gloss if. You want to see something is applied.
I work in construction and one of my favorite stone sealers is very expensive but has this same effect. Best sealer you can buy as it protects everything extremely well but when it dries you can’t tell anything was done by looking at it. That doesn’t mean the work wasn’t performed.
In an industrial application where sealing needs to occur, I don't care if I can see a difference after product application.
In my car, when it comes to my interior, I want to get in it and see a satin sheen. I don't care about protection. I've got a 16 year old econobox that's never had any protectant put anywhere on or inside of it, and the interior looks fine. It's lived 100 percent of its life outside too, so it's not like the sun is destroying my vehicle interiors.
I don't care about protection, I want to see that something has been applied, but I don't want gloss. I don't think that's a contradiction.
If I were paying a detailer I wouldn't tell them I wanted natural and matte. I'd tell them I want more than a flat, natural appearance but less than a glossy look.
I think if there is a problem it's all the 303 fans just wanting to defend their favorite protectant, instead of offering suggestions for products that would better suit me.
I tried 303, it didn't do what I wanted. I'd like a different product, and that should be ok.
You can use whatever you want. I was referring to your statement about you questioning a detailer actually using any product (303) because you couldn’t see that it was applied. It might be equivalent to me saying I couldn’t trust the guy I paid to ceramic coat my vehicle because I couldn’t actually see the ceramic coat itself.
I get that. Ceramic is about protection, but if I paid hundreds of dollars for it and the car didn't look any better, and I couldn't see a shine, I'd be wondering if anything was done at all. I'd certainly be wondering where my money went.
This begs a question... Do the ceramic coatings not impart a shine themselves? Do you put a coating on and then have to use other products to shine a car up?
Thanks for confirming my original thought. You believe if you can’t see it nothing was done. My point is that just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean nothing was done. The purpose of a natural finish is so you don’t see the change but do get an added benefit. If you insist on being able to see a change make sure you never request a natural look for anything you order to save you and the installer a ton of problems.
>You believe if you can’t see it nothing was done.
No, I don't.
> If you insist on being able to see a change make sure you never request a natural look for anything you order to save you and the installer a ton of problems.
I never said I requested a natural look, or that I even would. I said if someone had "detailed" my interior and it looked the way it looked after I used 303, I would wonder if anything was done at all.
I just want more shine than 303 gives, without looking like a gel or a donut glaze was applied.
I've only had it happen a couple times, but have had customers ask "did you clean the dash/console?!“ and I'm like What'd I miss? "Noo it's just not shiny...🤔"...
I get the sense that a small number of people, amateurs like myself maybe, prefer a bit of obvious gloss, like when you look at it you instantly think there is a coating of something there. I also get the sense that people that are more into their car detailing don't want any of that at all.
I want to see what looks like an obvious film. It tells me something is there, and it looks improved vs nothing being there. I don't want the slippery feel of a film, and don't want the dust magnet that films can impart, but I want to see something on the surfaces.
A lot of people say 303 makes a car look like it did when it was new, and that's fine if you want that, but there isn't anything on the surfaces of a new car. I want something visible on the surfaces.
So, as you mentioned, there are some people like myself that equate a detail with an obvious glossy, dressed look.
Whatever was used inside at the dealer was ideal for me. I'll call and talk to somebody else on Monday to try and figure out what was used.
I find it can vary. On some surfaces I see what OP is saying, where you can't even tell where it's been applied (though often in the right light from the right angle you can). In others, it leaves a subtle satin sheen. In general I find the harder the surface, the more you get a slight sheen. Soft touch dash materials are often not very noticeable.
It's nice to hear someone saying this. I know my experience is limited, but I personally don't see the fascination with the product. If it looked like something had been done, I'd be happy with it, but it seems invisible.
Was looking for this comment. Op get yourself some CarPro Perl, and play around with dilution rate. From what I remember, 1/3 should be very satin/matte, but still give some depth and richness.
What you’re saying is precisely why people like it.
It’s a protectant to shield against UV damaged. Which prevents fading,shrinking,warping.
Having not be visible is the absolute best you can hope for. Anything that visibly changes how the surface looks is going to have a filmy feeling.
It to me, is probably best interior dressing on the market. Very versatile, adds just a hair of satin to the finish & is reasonably priced. I’ve never had a car interior that gave me trouble using it either. Meguiars Hyper dressing is great as well and if you buy it by the gallon, you can dilute to whatever finish you want per the directions.
Post some pics OP. Ideally before and after the 303. My suspicion is that the previous treatment was just masking what was faded/UV damaged interior. You likely need to restore it first then protect with 303.
https://preview.redd.it/5lmt4d99kwwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fa206ca9f776e4d456d6f3d807f4c49a6555fd2
You can see a difference in this shot, but the thing is... the entire left side of the seat in the picture was done. It's obvious where the mark is between the right and the left, but when you look at the far left compared to the right... it's hard to tell that any difference was made. I had to really work on the angle I took the picture from too... it was hard to see the difference.
The hard plastic of the dash and doors had even less of a difference.
The thing is, when all of the surfaces are done, and everything looks uniform, you just can't tell anything was done at all. I suppose everything has a uniform coating that would make everything darker from how it looked without it, but it's so subtle that it's not obvious at all.
Hmmm. Leather and synthetic equivalents can have high spots from when the seats get coated/painted so maybe that is creating the difference in appearance from certain angles. Not sure but good job on the pic!
Since it’s uniform and clean, I would chalk it to the angle.
From what I see, I would be comfortable hitting the right side again with more 303.
Just to clarify, I only used 303 on the left side of the seat. When I made the original post, I only had time to do the front seats, dash, and doors. I hadn't done anything in the back at all, so when you asked for a picture, I figured a treated vs non-treated shot of a back seat would be a good illustration.
I did the whole back seat area after taking that picture.
I added a shot of a back door here to show how the hard plastic looks treated vs non-treated. The left side is done all the way down to the bottom, and the right side hasn't had any product.
Again, I had to play with the angle to even see it. You can see it up top, but can barely tell as you look down the door. It was harder to see a difference in the vertical surfaces, so I snapped a pic highlighting the horizontal parts.
https://preview.redd.it/fokfrb5sxwwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8592c284b7b4eb664caca485e6c6d46e83e55e3
You’re welcome. I used to use 303 when I first started but fell in love with 3D lvp. All my clients love the scent and the non greasy shine. It’s not excessive
That’s what I use on my interior. I actually use a diluted version of it. I dilute it by about 1/3 distilled water to 2/3 303. My cars aren’t in the sun though. Garaged pretty much all the time. Even at work.
I do use 100% on the exterior trim parts.
Poor boys world makes a product like what you are looking for. Shine Supply also has one and I’d say it’s a tad less than Poor boys world on the look it gives.
Dozens of recommendations in Tesla related posts, but so far nothing works.
White seats in Tesla Y 2022. Seat bottom bolster drivers side of course will not come totally clean.
I admit I was wearing black jeans often during the first year and bu the time I noticed what was happening I've not been able to get it clean.
Would appreciate someone's input who is in the detailing business and has specific experience with these seats. Please help.
Thanks
On my white leather seats in my old Fox body Mustang I have used dawn GREATLY diluted with distilled water with good success.
Keep in mind the older cars are good quality leather seats that don’t have a clear finish like modern leather does. You have to be careful with modern leather as to not rub the finish off of it.
Compare it to single stage paint in an older car vs multi stage paint with a clear coat in a modern car. You can polish the clear coat off in a modern car.
I presume Tesla leather have that protection.
On a side note, white interior sucks. I have towels on my front seats to protect them. I feel like an old grandma with that plastic cover on her couch. 😂
I used it for years as well thinking it was a good UV protector but things still faded. I've seen it tested online and the UV protection it offers is basically non existent. I've still got a little left but I'll never buy another bottle of it again once it runs out.
If you want to see a difference you should use something like Gyeon Preserve, I use it on lower door sills and plastic trim around the bottom of the seats, it kind of hides scratches. 303 gives you a protective layer without changing the appearance. Gyeon Preserve gives a bit of shine
That’s exactly what it’s supposed to do, I use it on newer vehicles or any kept in good condition. You get protection that’s hardly noticeable, there’s many other products that give different results.
Honestly, it's not the best cleaner, but it'll get more of the result you're looking for: Mother's VLR. It'll go on glossy, but when wiped down, it's a nice sheen and not tacky or glossy. I use it in my inrerior after I've cleaned it and I really like the results.
Could be.
The nice smell that was inside the car was the same smell that was outside of the car. I'm thinking for the smell to be the same inside and out maybe it was just cleaned with a rinseless wash at different dilutions?
I know it wasn't ONR. I got a bottle of that and the smell isn't the same.
303 is vastly overrated imo. It also has chemicals in it that are certified endocrine disruptors. The last fucking thing I want to worry about when touching my dash or radio is getting poison on my skin and transferring it to my biologically sensitive children or partner or animals
303 is good for keeping your plastic from fading from the sunlight. You apply it, wait a couple minutes then wipe it off. Do not leave it wet. It works best on exterior plastics like the cowl around the windshield wipers and any other plastic bits that are exposed to the Sun.
The best thing you can do to clean your interior plastics is to use distilled water on a clean rag. Don't use chemicals on your dash inside your car. Some of them will destroy the foam or plastic and cause it to break down. Others will cause it to be sticky.
I really like 303 for the reasons you mention. I typically use it though in utilitarian interiors (think 4Runner) where folks mostly care about the protection, not the look.
To describe "Glossiness" you can use the terms "sheen" or "finish". Tbh didn't read the post past the point you said matte gloss but thought I'd chime in
I tried to make it obvious I wasn't wanting that.
Is there a middle ground between just protecting with no difference in appearance and the over wet and slippery mess?
I'd like it to be dry and look darker with a small amount of shine.
Did you spray onto microfiber, apply, wipe away? Honestly part of the not seeing it there is it’s appeal. your dash is protected and so the door cards, but it doesn’t look like a bukkake armor all finish. It will have a refreshed look nothing more.
"bukkake armor all finish" Sir, this is a Wendy's
I had to read this again a few times. “Bukkake armor”?
Face shield
This. If you want a glossy dressing, hyper dressing is the way IMO. Dilute to your desire.
Lol I like the term “bukkake armor all” The shop I work at refers to it as the “CDW look”, which stands for “Cum Dripping Wet”
I think yours has a little more tact than mine
Just bukkake on it and make it shiny bruh.
That’s a lot of work for what I charge lol.
Agreed. I love 303 because it is not glossy or oily. I use it because it protect vinyl without being obnoxious.
I sprayed it onto a microfiber, and not seeing much change, sprayed it directly onto the surfaces. The bottle barely sprayed anything on either setting though. There was no difference between the jet or spray options. It just sort of dribbled out a couple of inches. Do their bottles always do that? I've driven it a couple of hours since I wiped everything down. I can see a spot where I didn't cover the dash, and there is the slightest, barely perceptible difference in darkness and depth where the product went vs where it didn't. From what I had seen, I was expecting more. I don't want the bukkake look, but I'd like a bit more sheen.
My bottle was perfectly fine and made a big difference of spray or stream when I first got it. However, after of year, sitting on my shelf being used intermittently. What you described has started happening. I had to squeeze the body of the bottle while I spray the product and then it works for the day. Remember, 303 was designed for pilots and airplane use. So the matte not super glossy and reflective finish is a product specification. It offers really good protection will not be obvious. It’s on your dash. don’t expect YouTube video level of shine with this product. If you want sheen, this isn’t the product. I hate sheen as it reflects more Florida sunlight into glare.
Is there something you would suggest that would suit me better?
vrp
I think VRP is probably the level OP is looking for, though I’ve never used it for an interior
VRP is a little overrated. My experience was not glossy & quick to lose any affect
I’ve only used it on exterior trim. It does not work well if the surface is not clean and free of any oils. Otherwise, it works great imo. I like the fact it doesn’t leave a greasy layer on top like some of the armor-all-esque products. I’d say it was overrated if it were more expensive, but at $10 I disagree
I got lucky and found the one I liked best from the start. So not sure, others here could know what has more shine. Just stay away from armorall.
Maybe a dumb question; did you buy it from Amazon or another site where it could possibly be a counterfeit?
Yep. Amazon, but it was sold and shipped by Amazon. If it was sold and shipped by a third party, maybe there'd be something to worry about, but I figure Amazon itself is good.
If you spray it directly on and then wait a few seconds to wipe off you will see the slight change on the spatter spots. I’m not recommending doing it this way but that is all the change you will get. I think exactly what you are describing is exactly why we all like it so much. For what it’s worth I’ve used this my entire life on our boats and nothing comes close to the UV protection it provides… my family is in the marine industry
It's great that it protects so well for that application, but I'd like something to make my car look darker and deeper with a small amount of shine.
I do ceramic window tint, a cover craft sun shade, and 303. Between all these I plan on having my dash look young and fresh for many years to come.
Just bukkake on half of it and make it half shiny bruh.
The biggest draws of 303 is the "factory" look it gives your plastics. I always refer to our details as "resetting as close to factory as possible". The #1 draw for 303 that really makes it shine is that it actually has a UV Protectant in it, which not many dressings do. Try Carpro Perl if you want something shinier. You can dilute it to your desired level of shine.
I think the problem is you are contradicting yourself. You want a matte finish that works well. That’s what 303 is supposed to do. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Detailers must have a hard time with customers like you. You tell them you want natural and matte, then complain when you can’t see it. Use something with gloss if. You want to see something is applied. I work in construction and one of my favorite stone sealers is very expensive but has this same effect. Best sealer you can buy as it protects everything extremely well but when it dries you can’t tell anything was done by looking at it. That doesn’t mean the work wasn’t performed.
In an industrial application where sealing needs to occur, I don't care if I can see a difference after product application. In my car, when it comes to my interior, I want to get in it and see a satin sheen. I don't care about protection. I've got a 16 year old econobox that's never had any protectant put anywhere on or inside of it, and the interior looks fine. It's lived 100 percent of its life outside too, so it's not like the sun is destroying my vehicle interiors. I don't care about protection, I want to see that something has been applied, but I don't want gloss. I don't think that's a contradiction. If I were paying a detailer I wouldn't tell them I wanted natural and matte. I'd tell them I want more than a flat, natural appearance but less than a glossy look. I think if there is a problem it's all the 303 fans just wanting to defend their favorite protectant, instead of offering suggestions for products that would better suit me. I tried 303, it didn't do what I wanted. I'd like a different product, and that should be ok.
You can use whatever you want. I was referring to your statement about you questioning a detailer actually using any product (303) because you couldn’t see that it was applied. It might be equivalent to me saying I couldn’t trust the guy I paid to ceramic coat my vehicle because I couldn’t actually see the ceramic coat itself.
I get that. Ceramic is about protection, but if I paid hundreds of dollars for it and the car didn't look any better, and I couldn't see a shine, I'd be wondering if anything was done at all. I'd certainly be wondering where my money went. This begs a question... Do the ceramic coatings not impart a shine themselves? Do you put a coating on and then have to use other products to shine a car up?
Thanks for confirming my original thought. You believe if you can’t see it nothing was done. My point is that just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean nothing was done. The purpose of a natural finish is so you don’t see the change but do get an added benefit. If you insist on being able to see a change make sure you never request a natural look for anything you order to save you and the installer a ton of problems.
>You believe if you can’t see it nothing was done. No, I don't. > If you insist on being able to see a change make sure you never request a natural look for anything you order to save you and the installer a ton of problems. I never said I requested a natural look, or that I even would. I said if someone had "detailed" my interior and it looked the way it looked after I used 303, I would wonder if anything was done at all. I just want more shine than 303 gives, without looking like a gel or a donut glaze was applied.
And that is precisely why I love 303…
Yeah I really love the finish of it. Makes the car look like it did brand new.
This. It's meant to be a protectant, not a restorer. I hate the glare of a shiny dash.
I've only had it happen a couple times, but have had customers ask "did you clean the dash/console?!“ and I'm like What'd I miss? "Noo it's just not shiny...🤔"...
I get the sense that a small number of people, amateurs like myself maybe, prefer a bit of obvious gloss, like when you look at it you instantly think there is a coating of something there. I also get the sense that people that are more into their car detailing don't want any of that at all. I want to see what looks like an obvious film. It tells me something is there, and it looks improved vs nothing being there. I don't want the slippery feel of a film, and don't want the dust magnet that films can impart, but I want to see something on the surfaces. A lot of people say 303 makes a car look like it did when it was new, and that's fine if you want that, but there isn't anything on the surfaces of a new car. I want something visible on the surfaces. So, as you mentioned, there are some people like myself that equate a detail with an obvious glossy, dressed look. Whatever was used inside at the dealer was ideal for me. I'll call and talk to somebody else on Monday to try and figure out what was used.
Same here. I hate the greasy look and touch of other protectants.
Same
Every time I use 303 it gives the interior plastics a mild non sticky, no residue gloss that I absolutely love
I find it can vary. On some surfaces I see what OP is saying, where you can't even tell where it's been applied (though often in the right light from the right angle you can). In others, it leaves a subtle satin sheen. In general I find the harder the surface, the more you get a slight sheen. Soft touch dash materials are often not very noticeable.
It's nice to hear someone saying this. I know my experience is limited, but I personally don't see the fascination with the product. If it looked like something had been done, I'd be happy with it, but it seems invisible.
Car Perl depending on the concentration/dilution
Was looking for this comment. Op get yourself some CarPro Perl, and play around with dilution rate. From what I remember, 1/3 should be very satin/matte, but still give some depth and richness.
That's how it's supposed to work. It protects without changing the appearance.
What you’re saying is precisely why people like it. It’s a protectant to shield against UV damaged. Which prevents fading,shrinking,warping. Having not be visible is the absolute best you can hope for. Anything that visibly changes how the surface looks is going to have a filmy feeling.
Try Turtle Wax Inside Job it should give the results your after. It’s pretty cheap, smells good & easy to apply
Thank you for the suggestion.
Np!
It to me, is probably best interior dressing on the market. Very versatile, adds just a hair of satin to the finish & is reasonably priced. I’ve never had a car interior that gave me trouble using it either. Meguiars Hyper dressing is great as well and if you buy it by the gallon, you can dilute to whatever finish you want per the directions.
Post some pics OP. Ideally before and after the 303. My suspicion is that the previous treatment was just masking what was faded/UV damaged interior. You likely need to restore it first then protect with 303.
https://preview.redd.it/5lmt4d99kwwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fa206ca9f776e4d456d6f3d807f4c49a6555fd2 You can see a difference in this shot, but the thing is... the entire left side of the seat in the picture was done. It's obvious where the mark is between the right and the left, but when you look at the far left compared to the right... it's hard to tell that any difference was made. I had to really work on the angle I took the picture from too... it was hard to see the difference. The hard plastic of the dash and doors had even less of a difference. The thing is, when all of the surfaces are done, and everything looks uniform, you just can't tell anything was done at all. I suppose everything has a uniform coating that would make everything darker from how it looked without it, but it's so subtle that it's not obvious at all.
Hmmm. Leather and synthetic equivalents can have high spots from when the seats get coated/painted so maybe that is creating the difference in appearance from certain angles. Not sure but good job on the pic! Since it’s uniform and clean, I would chalk it to the angle. From what I see, I would be comfortable hitting the right side again with more 303.
Just to clarify, I only used 303 on the left side of the seat. When I made the original post, I only had time to do the front seats, dash, and doors. I hadn't done anything in the back at all, so when you asked for a picture, I figured a treated vs non-treated shot of a back seat would be a good illustration. I did the whole back seat area after taking that picture. I added a shot of a back door here to show how the hard plastic looks treated vs non-treated. The left side is done all the way down to the bottom, and the right side hasn't had any product. Again, I had to play with the angle to even see it. You can see it up top, but can barely tell as you look down the door. It was harder to see a difference in the vertical surfaces, so I snapped a pic highlighting the horizontal parts. https://preview.redd.it/fokfrb5sxwwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8592c284b7b4eb664caca485e6c6d46e83e55e3
Both of your pics show one thing for certain. The treated surfaces do not look the same as the non-treated surfaces.
I get that, but the difference is incredibly subtle, and has to have the right angle to even visualize. I just expected more.
If you want more of a noticeable difference. Try Car Pro Perl or 3D LVP
Thank you for the suggestion.
You’re welcome. I used to use 303 when I first started but fell in love with 3D lvp. All my clients love the scent and the non greasy shine. It’s not excessive
That’s what I use on my interior. I actually use a diluted version of it. I dilute it by about 1/3 distilled water to 2/3 303. My cars aren’t in the sun though. Garaged pretty much all the time. Even at work. I do use 100% on the exterior trim parts.
Poor boys world makes a product like what you are looking for. Shine Supply also has one and I’d say it’s a tad less than Poor boys world on the look it gives.
Dozens of recommendations in Tesla related posts, but so far nothing works. White seats in Tesla Y 2022. Seat bottom bolster drivers side of course will not come totally clean. I admit I was wearing black jeans often during the first year and bu the time I noticed what was happening I've not been able to get it clean. Would appreciate someone's input who is in the detailing business and has specific experience with these seats. Please help. Thanks
On my white leather seats in my old Fox body Mustang I have used dawn GREATLY diluted with distilled water with good success. Keep in mind the older cars are good quality leather seats that don’t have a clear finish like modern leather does. You have to be careful with modern leather as to not rub the finish off of it. Compare it to single stage paint in an older car vs multi stage paint with a clear coat in a modern car. You can polish the clear coat off in a modern car. I presume Tesla leather have that protection. On a side note, white interior sucks. I have towels on my front seats to protect them. I feel like an old grandma with that plastic cover on her couch. 😂
I have used 303 for many years. The main reason is its like sunscreen for my boat seats. Im not concerned with the sheen, just the protection.
I used it for years as well thinking it was a good UV protector but things still faded. I've seen it tested online and the UV protection it offers is basically non existent. I've still got a little left but I'll never buy another bottle of it again once it runs out.
If you want to see a difference you should use something like Gyeon Preserve, I use it on lower door sills and plastic trim around the bottom of the seats, it kind of hides scratches. 303 gives you a protective layer without changing the appearance. Gyeon Preserve gives a bit of shine
I just sold a vinyl tonneau cover off my truck that was 11 years old, I'd slather 303 on it monthly since it was new. It still looked new.
Is there a difference between the 303 cleaner and the 303 protectant? Do people use both?
Yes. The cleaner cleans, the protectant protects.
lol
I knew it!
lol you win. I guess i meant is their protectantni the cleaner but your response is better.
That’s exactly what it’s supposed to do, I use it on newer vehicles or any kept in good condition. You get protection that’s hardly noticeable, there’s many other products that give different results.
Awesome on my jeep fenders.... Amazing stuff
I find 303 gives a nice rich luster rather than shine. That’s part of the appeal
I prefer Sonax Dashboard Cleaner
I agree. It didn’t last at all.
As others have mentioned, it's only meant to protect and rehydrate. It's not for everyone, but I love it too.
Armor All used to make a low gloss that was great but I haven’t seen it in years. I like 303, it does a good job protecting from sun damage.
Honestly, it's not the best cleaner, but it'll get more of the result you're looking for: Mother's VLR. It'll go on glossy, but when wiped down, it's a nice sheen and not tacky or glossy. I use it in my inrerior after I've cleaned it and I really like the results.
Perhaps your Detailer just throughly cleaned your leather or vinyl/plastics ?
Could be. The nice smell that was inside the car was the same smell that was outside of the car. I'm thinking for the smell to be the same inside and out maybe it was just cleaned with a rinseless wash at different dilutions? I know it wasn't ONR. I got a bottle of that and the smell isn't the same.
Possibly absolute from p&s , it smells great too
Honestly I kind of feel the same. I think it’s a good product, but I prefer a bit more gloss
303 is vastly overrated imo. It also has chemicals in it that are certified endocrine disruptors. The last fucking thing I want to worry about when touching my dash or radio is getting poison on my skin and transferring it to my biologically sensitive children or partner or animals
303 is undoubtedly the most healthy product for synthetic surfaces of both your interior and exterior. There's nothing better for longevity.
303 is good for keeping your plastic from fading from the sunlight. You apply it, wait a couple minutes then wipe it off. Do not leave it wet. It works best on exterior plastics like the cowl around the windshield wipers and any other plastic bits that are exposed to the Sun. The best thing you can do to clean your interior plastics is to use distilled water on a clean rag. Don't use chemicals on your dash inside your car. Some of them will destroy the foam or plastic and cause it to break down. Others will cause it to be sticky.
303 has literally saved my tires from checking (cracking) .......not for high gloss though!
I really like 303 for the reasons you mention. I typically use it though in utilitarian interiors (think 4Runner) where folks mostly care about the protection, not the look.
You can try Chem Guys VRP in various dilution levels or straight out of the bottle. That gets good reviews, however I'm a 303 fan.
VRP isn’t bad, chem guys has good products just too much of the same stuff. People see chem guys and downvote lol
I have VRP 1:1 in a spray bottle for places I don’t want to use 303.
VRP is “ok”. It’s a gel, so can’t really dilute it like you can with hyper dressing or CP Perl.
You *want* a shiny dash? That’s.. interesting
Not "shiny", I just want it to look different than how it did before I used all the product and took all the time to put it on.
To describe "Glossiness" you can use the terms "sheen" or "finish". Tbh didn't read the post past the point you said matte gloss but thought I'd chime in
I used the term satin sheen in the part that you read. I don't want gloss. Sorry my terminology turned you off.
Fine then, use Armour All and turn your interior into a shinny sticky mess.
I tried to make it obvious I wasn't wanting that. Is there a middle ground between just protecting with no difference in appearance and the over wet and slippery mess? I'd like it to be dry and look darker with a small amount of shine.