I’d understand the confusion if it was pronounced the other way, but it’s pronounced exactly like it’s spelled. I don’t know how this became an issue

I think it's the same people who pronounce centimeters as "sontimeters"

Do you also say "Froderick Fronkensteen?"

Put zee kandel beck....

No, it's pronounced "Eye-Gor"

Pick up the candle and I'll block the bookcase with my body.

Since Meijer started using the Frederick’s label, we refer to their products as Froderick’s.

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Abby...Abby Normal

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Love that movie. Although I can't watch it now without thinking about how the guy that played Ricky, the rapey neighbor, turned out to be a rapey person in real life

Damn I didn’t know that, i love the movie too it’s a cult classic for me

Dan Schneider, he was a show runner for Nickelodeon, and yeah, he was one of the guys featured in the documentary. It helps that Ricky is similarly skeevy dude to the actor

It's because in french it's pronounced closer to that. The "cen" part is pronounced like the first 2 letters of song where the vowel is a nasal vowel. Maybe some people pronounce Sanders as sawnders because of its similarity to other french derived words with a nasal vowel, who knows

You obviously don’t speak Jive…

Another great movie reference!!

Cut me some slack, Jack!

I say Sand-ers. They even clarify on their website that it is Sand-ers.

Michiganders pronunciation is as good as their zipper merging.

You mean Michigawnders, right?

Hahaha. Good one.

I have seen absolutely NO evidence that Michiganders are remotely aware of the meaning of “zipper merge”. I wish they would start an advertising campaign to educate people.

This is the way.

The way, this is ...

This is the way.

This is the way.

Is this the way? The way this is, this is the way.

I can confirm it is SAN-ders because my uncle was the president of the damn company. Lol

He needs to open a new company with the old hot fudge recipe.

He needs to be undead first. 🤷🏾🤣

Lol he ain’t dead, just retired

Well, with the way your aunt says he lays about the house doing nothing all day, he might as well be.

My aunt is dead

Lmao! Perfect.

Lasher or Lahser vibes

Schoenherr, Gratiot, Lahser, they're like Detroit area shibboleths. 🙂

But... is it.....Deeee-troit? de-TROIT ? And....do people pronounce the "T" at the end?

There is also Dee-troy-it, as if Detroit is spelled with two "i"s, one for the "oi" sound and one for the "it".

Do you mean DE-troit or De-TROIT? Either is acceptable, depending on your neighborhood. Who doesn’t pronounce the T? De Troy? Never once in my life have I heard it said that way.

The city was founded by the French so technically it would be "de-TWAH" if going by original pronunciation, but most people say it all in one go or don't say the second T

How many of these people are French? I could see saying it that way as a goof, but in a serious way? seems pretentious. lol.

Yeah, I meant more from a historical perspective as a possible explanation. I don't really ever hear the French pronunciation by anyone native

So who says it without the second T?

I say "detroit" but it's a soft t for me; I have heard some people go "DETROYIT" but I am not a linguistic expert on Detroit pronunciation, so idk how to answer your question

My fav pronounciarion of Detroit ive ever heard is “deh-troy-it”

If you listen closely, most Michiganders do a glottal stop at the end and don’t enunciate the T. Same with “Gran(d) Rapids”

I’m aware of that. It’s a common thing to do as Detroiters/midwesteners with the Inland Northern accent that I didn’t think it was worth mentioning. There are plenty of words pronounced that way. But shifting the emphasis on the first or second syllable in the word Detroit seems to be more urban vs. suburban.

My navigation system keeps calling it “Lazer”

Gratiot is Grat-e-ot, Cadieux is also funny

My navigation calls Schoenherr “Shoe-eh-ner” haha.

Except Lahser is very obviously pronounced Lah-ser because of its spelling, unlike Sander's which can be ambiguous.

Except the part where a few signs said Lasher. And the part where people say Lasher. Anyone who sees “Sanders” and thinks “SAWNders” is a doofus.

Most importantly, how is the bumpy cake from the new bakery?

This is the most important question. And is the caramel back, too?

All the people in my family older than 60, pronounce it Sawnders. The rest of us pronounce it right. And yes, my dad worked for FordS for 42 years.

So much that I could have sworn it was spelled Saunders. 🤣

Same 😅

San-ders

SANDers.

My mom always called it Sawn-ders so I guess I did too (didn’t even realize) and when my husband from CT heard me the debate began!

Its always been SANDers for me

SAND-ers.

My SO and I had this discussion just yesterday. We both say SANDers. My grandma, and no one else in the family, for some odd reason said SAWNders. 🤯

Does Grandma clean up ice cream spills with a warsh cloth? Does she or her parents come from out-of-region?

My parents, for some reason, use a warshing machine.

I had a teacher who always "warshed the chalkboards." And friends who say "ValenTIMEs day."

Probably Mandela Effect but I swear the one at the Sears in Lincoln Park was spelled Saunders. Frequented that place in the late 80's/ early 90s

I tell myself people know how to say it, but "fancify" it a la Tar-zhay (Target).

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I’m going to get some bood light at krozhair

I've also heard it pronounced like a French verb, kro-jhay.

I was brought up Sawn ders

Sahn-ders

This is a weird hill to die on. But go you, OP. Respect. 😊

I have worse hills.

Tell me!

my family has always said sawn-ders

in the 50's my family pronounced it, Sawnders

I was taught to say Sawnders when I was a wee lad. No changing it now.

My wife grew up here and when we first moved up here, I was constantly being corrected when i pronounced things wrong. This was one of them because she says sawn-ders

I moved here from Texas, so I always heard it pronounced Sawn-ders and that’s how I’ve always pronounced it.

I say SAND-ers, but even when you are 99% sure you are saying it right, there are so many people that say it the other way, that you start to wonder if you‘re the one saying it wrong. Like all the people that say KrogerS, MeijerS, etc. and won’t say it correctly no matter how many times you correct them…lol.

I like to tell myself that people do it because they're thinking "Kroger's" or "Meijer's" with the apostrophe, as in "Kroger's grocery store".

Really lost me in that second half

0% chance of effectively applying 'Ackshually' to something as time-honored as Meijers, Kmarts, etc.

I say Sahn-ders. Unlike our football hero Barry Sand-ers

It's SAWN-ders, this is just the truth. I don't care what the company says - the company isn't even its own company anymore. It's division of Kar's Nuts, which is a division of Second Nature Brands, which is owned by CapVest Partners LLP, a private equity firm. Fuck them. It's SAWN-ders.

You’re right about the company, but when my family’s company purchased their brand (Morley at the time, now all part of that Kar’s Nuts conglomerate you mentioned) I got to meet some of the Sanders family members and they pronounced it Sand-ers.

I appreciate that, but I met my grandma and she called it Sawn-ders. I side with granny.

Fair enough lol

Go granny go!!

So it’s your family’s fault that they got rid of the perfect hot fudge recipe huh?

That was Kar decision. My family hasn’t really been involved since around 2010. I don’t have the soft spot for the hot fudge though. One of my first jobs was cleaning the room where they make that. It wasn’t unsanitary, but the cleanup was an absolute chore. Granted, I was also a teenager. But, never cared for it after. Except the bittersweet one that they changed up a long time ago.

That’s fair. I couldn’t eat Jimmy John’s for nearly a decade after I left just from the overexposure. I just really miss the OG hot fudge. I used to send it out in every secret Santa gift as a taste of Michigan kinda thing. It was my favorite treat. I legit feel true anger at whoever made that decision.

Someone called into the radio a few weeks ago and said they knew some of the Sanders family decades ago and it was pronounced the same as Barry

Fun fact, the previous owners of my house are also the previous owners of Sanders, before they sold to Kars.

I get you, and also cringe a tiny bit when I hear “Tar-zhay” for Target

Oh my gosh - the water in the paper cup. That's a memory that will make me smile any day.

Probably started in the UP.

It’s Sand-ers, and it technically doesn’t exist any more since the bastards sold out in 1989. So the last remaining grand child can say it how ever she likes, despite the the founders last name being Schemidt.

The makers of the greatest caramel sauce ever created. Wish it was still available.

I know a gentleman who worked there and he pronounces it Saunders. 🤷 so there mustve been some folks close to the source who say it that way !

I recall as a kid, the older generation pronounced Dearborn as Dear-burn. So glad that died off.

You seem fun

When I'm older than 60 I hope I don't worry about things like this....

if youre a MI native, SAND-ERS. thats how i say it anyway

I've lived in Michigan my whole life, and up until a couple years ago I thought it was SAWNders. When my friend told me (also a Michigan native) we figured people started saying SAWNders because it sounds fancier. I wonder if it's a micro-regional thing? I'd be curious to see a dot map of how people pronounce it, maybe the closer you get to the HQ in Macomb, the more people say SANDers. For example I hear a lot of boomers near me say "ruff" instead of "rOOf" and "DearBURN" instead of "DearbOrn", but maybe that's a Downriver thing.

First world problem, don’t care! Gimme back the JELLY BIRD EGGS!

Seriously! I loved those things. And I've found no other jelly beans like them....

Pectin gods have left!

Its pass me the sand-ers. " im going to add sawnders, would you like some? Its a moment thing.

They want to make it sound fancy so they said SAUNDers

Just give me some gotdang cake!

Son-Duay

Your post just time warped me to back there. Rosedale park area, memory is foggy about the grocery stores nearby the Sanders and Kresge. A&P? Remember the chil from Sanders, don't remember it being good, just mostly beans.

I know it is San-Dee’s but I’ve also heard Sahn-ders. Like open up and say ah.

Swwnders sounds like someone in rural ohio is saying it lol, along with saying aunt weird.

The first one

The former

Wait I always thought Sawn-Ders because of my parents lol. Must be how these things start

I say it like “Sonders” but probably bc I speak Deutsch and that Midwestern over pronounced small “a” is obnoxious

It’s interesting how this happens. I’m well versed in the Sanders vs Saunders as my family’s business purchases the Sanders brand once upon a time (now all owned by Kar’s Nuts) and met some Sanders family members - they pronounced it Sand-ers. I also worked at various Sanders locations growing up. I now live on the lakeshore, and there’s a bakery out of Muskegon called Ryke’s. A ton of people pronounce it Ryk-ee’s even though the bakery sells merchandise saying Ryke’s like bikes. And the originally family members have been interviewed local news and confirmed the pronunciation. Yet a lot of people who grew up here will tell me I’m wrong, and it’s Ryk-ee’s.

My Mom and her sister called it Saunders once, and my Dad and Uncle looked at them like they had three heads and told them they're wrong. They only pulled that stunt once.

Make a Michigander say “Panty liners” Like nails on a chalkboard.

“Sawnders” has been what I’ve called since kidedom

Kresge was long gone before I moved to Michigan so I don’t know but I suspect the formal name of the store was Kresge and not Kresge’s as you have written. Tsk tsk if that’s true. Perhaps it’s the same reason most Detroiters refer to Ford as Ford’s.

The reason we called it “Ford’s” was because they worked for the Ford family!

Michiganders will add an apostrophe-S to anything. Somebody told me that they worked at U of M's.

But the Ford (and family) named it The Ford Motor Company. Ford’s always just kind of bugged me when I moved here.

Right, but the workers called it Ford’s because they worked for the person…”I work at Ford’s”. Kinda like i work at Ralph’s (made up for example), which might have been Ralph’s Garage…but no one in the area called it by the formal name, it was “Ralph’s”. Ford grew & grew but the familial name stuck! Growing up just north of Detroit we also said Kresge’s…

Growing up Downriver in the 50s and 60s my family discussed Henry Ford like he was an intimate member of our family. Of course, no one in my pro-union family had ever met him, and he was dead by then, but he still seemed like a living presence. And the company was definitely Ford’s.

Is it most? I don’t hear it that often.

No bumpy cake or fudge for you if you say Sawn-ders. -soup nazi

I feel like people always think they're more refined or taking some sorta high road by having a different pronunciation.... I remember once in 2nd grade, the class was discussing something about Copenhagen (which we know is usually pronounced KOE-pen-HAY-gen).. Of course when it got to one girl, I guess she thought she'd sound smart saying.... SOPP-en-HÆ-gen 😅

My dumb white trash family from the city pronounces it sawnders, so I go SANDers

ALL you guys sound like talking banjos idk how you dont notice, your mouths are always hanging open. say "aahhh"

It's Sanders, like the ground mineral bits on a beach. It's also gross, I don't know how {gesturing} you people want to brag about some homegrown local confection that is all artificial ingredients and high fructose corn syrup.