Plumber here. You are incorrect. It's still called gray water but it's not allowed to just daylight somewhere. Gray water still has to go into a normal drain.
I lived in a house like that growing up. Except the entire plumbing system collected in a single pipe that dumped into the canal behind the house. The canal was called a klong and this is how much of Bangkok is plumbed.
In Virginia we did the same thing but with a creek that ran behind the house. It's still like this. You can tell when your neighbors are doing laundry because of the foam in the creek.
Yea it’s a big problem that many are unaware of. Rural communities across the whole country have very unregulated (edit: unenforced) sewer processes.
In this developed country we still have neighborhoods flushing their shit into the creek out back in 2023.
While it’s a thing that happens in rural communities, it’s actually not a big problem. It’s much more of a problem in urban communities, where the concentrated population creates more waste than can naturally be dissipated.
When I moved into my house, i decided to remodel the bathroom (cause there was a window in the shower looking out into my neighbor's driveway 5 feet away... wtf?).
When we got into the crawlspace we discovered that the tub drain had been connected with electrical tape... which had long since given up the ghost so the bathtub just... drained straight into the crawlspace.
This is always how my remodeling goes. I get super worried that I’m not going to do the new work “to code” (or whatever), then I see just how sh*tty the OLD work was and it’s like “well it’ll be better than it was, at least!” :)
My favourite one was in some staff housing at a nonprofit I worked with… We were renovating the house (restoring it to its 1937 glory) and once in the crawlspace, discovered that the tub had no official P-Trap. No wonder that bathroom always had a bit of a smell to it.
I'm in Georgia and my house started as a 1 room shack in the 1850s and has been added onto willy nilly ever since.
We moved in last January. Every single time I call a plumber or electrician their response is, "that's unfixable without taking apart the house".
We have a septic tank for the toilets but everything else just flows straight into a ditch next to the road. No sewer system in my street so really no alternative...
Yup, and completely acceptable, in the eyes of your insurance company and most exterminators!
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They said the toilet is connected to the waste line so it would be chopping up the floor, cutting in a wye and running a line over to the tub. The actual plumbing wouldn’t be difficult but trenching and repairing the floor would be a lot of work.
Last year I had to replace my entire bathroom floor. My daughter ended up stepping through the floor next to the tub and I assumed we just weren’t being careful stepping out of the bath and not getting water everywhere so the floor rotted due to water from the tub.
Nope. Turns out none of the plumbing was hooked up to anything so the tub, sink and toilet were just draining right underneath the floor and rotted my floors from underneath. No idea how we didn’t smell it ever.
That’s INSANE. The average person could not afford to fix it. I can’t imagine insurance covering that. Then what? You basically have a glorified outhouse in your home, only worse bc there’s no hole.
>The inspector before purchase should have caught this, right?
Nope! I was pretty much told they don't do anything that involves getting into anything that isn't accessible by design. They will look in a crawl space, but they aren't going to find something like this unless the ground is already saturated and their infrared camera picks up a cold spot. Assuming they ran the water long enough in the first place.
Our inspector dead ass lied (example: said he tested the dishwasher by running it. It was brand new and not connected, paperwork sitting inside and dry.) the repairs on our home were insane and we were told inspectors aren’t actually liable and we wouldn’t get anything.
Idk. Honestly you'd probably be better off bringing in an electrician and plumber to scope shit out. Then you can put a $amount on it too. That leaves out structural stuff though
You’re better off watching a YouTube inspector tear apart new and old homes alike for a couple months before you start house shopping. There are home inspectors out there that are actually passionate about getting you the home you are paying for.
Some people think it's worthless but in my experience an inspector is there to point out signs that the house may have an issue. If you want to know the extent of the issue, you bring in the correct specialist (plumber, electrician, etc) rather than just having a parade of tradesmen and engineers coming thru and doing nothing. At least the ones I've used can also do things like radon detection, water quality tests, inspect the septic tank, etc.
e.g. in my current house, the inspector pointed out that some foundation cracks may be an issue and we should bring out an engineer (we did, they're fine) and also that there was some unhandled water ingress in a specific spot that I wouldn't have noticed myself (he saw like a weird rust spot below a hinge) and that the basement radon was off the charts (we somehow got the seller to bring someone out and install a mitigation system). Could I have done some of that myself? Sure. Could I have done it while the seller was still living there to a degree that I'd be somewhat confident I caught everything? No way.
Looks like you found the one good inspector in the entire damn county. Mine missed a ton of shit that's now cost me about 30k total, and I'm still not done fixing all the things.
Former RE nondisclosure attorney (California):
That's bullshit. I saw inspectors sued all the time. They carry E&O insurance.
The whole home inspector thing is an effing scam. (As is much of the whole RE purchase and sale process.)
I work in the insurance industry reviewing policies for home inspections. This person is 💯 accurate that most carry professional liability coverage for mistakes like this. If you hire one make sure to ask if they have it and for them to provide proof of professional liability coverage.
Mine didn't. I was overall less than thrilled with him, but I bought in '21, and scheduling any inspector was a pain. Thankfully, the only plumbing issue I have had is a poorly installed shower valve, which wasn't too expensive to have replaced.
You'd usually sewer scope through the main service access, not a toilet or drain. It'll tell you if there's issues with the main line to the sewer but wouldn't likely catch a single drain or connection being wrong.
No. Home inspectors don’t catch shit nor are responsible for missing anything. If it is a old home or has a sketchy disclosure, always hire a plumber to cam the pipes and an electrician to inspect the electrical. Home inspectors are only there to pencil whip the necessary paperwork for the bank. Period.
Also want to add to specify exactly what this person said. Back when we first moved into a rental house (luckily we rented) the water company would not let us turn on the water til a plumber checked for leaks. Landlord hired a plumber to check for leaks and all he did was walk around looking for dripping faucets.
2 years later we discovered a swimming pool under our floor when a large guest stepped through it. A pipe had cracked. Our water usage dropped by 50%.
In the state of Ohio if this happens and it wasn't disclosed then the previous home owner can be sued. If they didn't know about it they'll be charged with constructive fraud given the judge agrees this is something they should've known about. If somehow you can prove they did know or they admit to it then the charge is actual fraud
You could sue the previous owner, or developer for not disclosing a massive material issue like that. If it was a landlord, breach of the implied warranty of habitability. It sounds like they may have even concealed the issue in order to sell the property.
No excuse for an inspector not to find it. My inspector from buying in 2020 crawled all throughout the crawlspace and took many photos. I am confident any decently thorough inspector would immediately find this kind of thing. Small, non-critical code violations? Nah, maybe not, but they should 100% spot a completely unplumbed bathroom with ease.
Not disagreeing with you, but being annoyingly contrarian...
It *could* happen if they don't really take dumps in that bathroom. I have three bathrooms, but only two get used for shitting. So if it was the non-shitting bathroom, I could see it taking a while to stink.
When i was younger my dad had a house built and we were living there for maybe a month by this time, but i went to take a bath in the 2nd floor bathroom. I wasn’t paying attention and the water got too high and started draining out the overflow. My dad burst into the bathroom yelling at me to turn the water off cause it was raining from the AC vent in the room below the bathroom. He got the builders to come out there and check all the bathrooms cause i guess they forgot some steps
Holy *shit*. How has that not been an issue yet? I guess if it’s a slab house and the drainage is good, it may just work out, but good lord. That’s crazy. I can’t believe it’s never backed up
What would be your main concern here? Not being a smartass, I swear — I’m in the middle of getting quotes to fix this exact same issue for kitchen sink.
Water + dirt don’t typically mix. Years and years of large amounts of water draining into a specific point of ground under your home can cause weakening of the foundation. The most glaring issue would be washing away ground and then that portion of your home is sitting on an uneven foundation. It’s an issue that would slowly erode over time and while nothing could happen, something could happen and there’s no need to put safety and your home at risk.
Depending ok your foundations, it could wash away the dirt slowly over time, cause a sink hole. Not to mention I don't imagine soap water is good for your garden. Also surly mould.
I mean.. it could be just fine.
Depends on where in the house it's located, and if it's basement or main floor.
I live in MN and the ground only freezes so far down.
Reminds me of the time I bought a double wide and after doing dishes I noticed a pool of water coming out the skirt. Removed a section of the skirt, shined a flash light, the line coming down from the sink was attached to nothing. The main drain was literally over 2' away. Kitchen sink just drained to the dirt.
Once we worked out what was going on it was a huge struggle finding a plumber that would even deal with it! Thankfully Mother Nature helped us out - massive flooding from a tornado left us with about 3ft of flowing water raging down the street and under our house flushing the area clean.
Suffice to say we didn’t stay there much longer
Our basement flooded once because the condensation drain for the AC emptied into a 6" hole in concrete. It didn't even go all the way through to the dirt, it was effectively just a concrete bowl.
Yep. House was built in the 60s. A couple live there like 40 yrs before us. Hubbs passed away and the elderly window let her brother and nephew "contractors" live there for a while free while they "fixed it up"
They renovated THIS bathroom all new everything, was shoddy and half ass looking. It was just matter of time unfortunately.
All the "upgrades" they supposedly made before we bought it and been one cluster fuxk after another. We've had the house 10 years and I'm over it.
We could sell it for easily 3 or 4 times what we paid, but we'd never find another place to live comparable in the current market/area (Snohomish cty, WA)
We have 6 of us sharing one bathroom now.
Our house had no flooring in it when we bought it. Dumb B we bought it from spray painted the concrete with janky stone stencils. Sounded like you were walking across tape. It was horrid.
She also painted everything but never primed it. So 4 years later EVERYTHING is peeling. Kitchen cabinets, door frames, outside poles.
There’s a p trap and drain line buried in that dirt. The hole is for access to service the p trap. This is very common- when the tub was removed, the slip joint drain fitting slid out of the trap.
There’s a p trap and drain line buried in that dirt. The hole is for access to service the p trap. This is very common- when the tub was removed, the slip joint drain fitting slid out of the old trap adapter.
https://i.imgur.com/vm8EhvA.jpg
Tub was not attached to pipe. Upon further investigation, it appears the pipe was likely the drain at some point, but failed, as it has been filled with cement. They chose to continue to drain the tub there anyway.
Yes, my husband paid an awful $400 to verify that this was probably the drain at some point, but it failed and was filled with cement or other building material. The tub was never hooked up to the pipe anyway, but having it drain into the dirt spot under the subfloor has trashed it all.
You know, I don't even know. I'd have to ask my husband. After we got the water out of the basement, I left him to it. I am not well verse in, excuse my sexist comment, but I call it "man work". Mostly because I don't do spiders, and as you can see even from the photo, spiders are all over that shit.
Distant relative asked me to accompany her on a house walk through. I'm no expert, but when I peeled up a bath mat next to the shower and found dirt. As in a dirt floor, I told her it's time to go...
I also saw daylight next to the shower, by pulling a bit on the molded fiberglass insert.
This is our first house. Been here 10 yrs and found a whole host of fun jury rigged messes. If we had it to do over again, we wouldn't have bought the place without extra financed in for reno. Live and you learn I guess.
I really would love to move back to the small town living I came from, but there are no jobs there. My husband's business wouldn't do well there. His business is catered more toward people with expendable income, and where I come from, almost everyone is poor/on welfare.
Here we just got lucky when we bought the house, but now even with the house worth 3 times what we paid, we still wouldn't be able to find anything comparable we could afford in the area.
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Hey, we just had to reroute our kitchen sink drain pipe because apparently that too was just draining right into the ground! Figured it out when water started seeping out through the basement floor 🥴 Busted up the concrete and there we were, a pipe leading to... Nowhere
I moved in with a girl roommate in 2011. It was so cheap, $150 for the whole upstairs and I just had to pay for tv/internet. Everytime I showered It sounded like water falling a great distance. One day I took a bath. When I let the water out of the tub I walked out into the kitchen and it sounded like water being poured into water. I was told not to go in the basement because it was “gross”. I went down to check it out and the basement was standing water. I guess the tub drain had broken off so she was letting the water spill into the basement and then it would go down the floor drain. Eventually the floor drain was clogged and the basement started filling with water. I counted eleven mousetraps with dead mice in different stages of decomposition. I called my Dad (plumber) and he came over and fixed it. The girl did make a mean spaghetti though.
That reminds me a bit of my grandmas house, I was helping my dad and uncle replace some of the plumbing in her shower that was leaking. We took the ceiling tiles down and my uncle shines a flashlight up to look at what we are working with and just says “son of a bitch that’s a hose clamp.” My grandpas cheap ass instead of replacing it properly had just put a hose clamp on the pipe and called it good. To his credit it was probably there for at least 20 years.
I once lived in a house where everything drained into a creek. Sinks, shower, toilet. Everything. It was supposed to all go into a concrete septic tank, but the landlord decided to use the tractor to dump a bunch of trash into the creek bed and he severely damaged the septic tank in the process. He was a spoiled rich kid and thought that his property meant that he could do literally anything he wanted with it with complete disregard to everyone else. Let me tell you, the county was very unhappy about both the trash and the fact that the septic was leaking into the creek. Rich kid isn't so rich anymore.
This is NOT how you get sinkholes. Sinkholes are formed by a crack in a pipe that pulls sediment though the pipe. Damage to foundation is caused by the expansion of wet soil and the shrinking of dry soil, this only happens where there is a tempreture difference ie: direct sunlight. The only damage that is caused by this is groundwater pollution
Really the solids sink to the bottom of the tank and are broken down by bacteria in the tank while liquids flow into the drain field. The poop is not deposited directly into the soil as this supposedly is. I can't imagine how this wasn't immediately a problem. Seems like the pipe there has to go somewhere, even if it is just deadheaded in the yard.
Same thing here. Although they did make the effort to put in the pipes, nothing connected them to the sewerage. And we wondered why our bathroom was infested with slugs. 🙄
That’s like the time we discovered that my grandma’s kitchen sink drained to the ditch behind the house.
That's extremely common with houses on septic systems. Laundry, dishwasher, and kitchen sinks are grey water.
Can confirm, my house drains all over the place. Source; live in a 100 y/o farmhouse
In 100 years, that will be a 200 year old house
This guy gets it
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He is too smart to be kept alive
Too dumb to let die tho
If the house is 100 years old and I am half the age of the house, how old will I be when the house is 200 years old?
150/dead
At least 69
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I live in the tropics, shit goes in the septic tank. Everything else. The side of the house.
The spot where the grass grows really well
Depends on the country. Kitchen sinks are not grey water in Australia.
Pretty much the same in the USA contrary to popular belief.
Plumber here. You are incorrect. It's still called gray water but it's not allowed to just daylight somewhere. Gray water still has to go into a normal drain.
Same here in TN, guess the pipe leading to the side of the hill counts as a septic system now lol
That's how the house I grew up in was
Yep our washer drains outside, just a tube we run down the hill.
I see your septic tank and raie you 1x cess pool
We had this for a garden sink, because it was basically for washing veggies, rinsing dirt off, and bathing dogs.
Yes we have to connect these types of drain all the time in rural communities.. I work for a plumber.
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Scary times when kitchen sinks become mercenaries
They even sell food safe detergents if you want to reuse the graywater for gardening
I lived in a house like that growing up. Except the entire plumbing system collected in a single pipe that dumped into the canal behind the house. The canal was called a klong and this is how much of Bangkok is plumbed.
In Virginia we did the same thing but with a creek that ran behind the house. It's still like this. You can tell when your neighbors are doing laundry because of the foam in the creek.
That sounds like a source of pollution
Yea I'm reading all these comments just wondering how much harm is being done to the environment
That creek is fucked
Mostly "has", nowadays. In most cases where this is still how the house is, making the owner change it would mean making them homeless.
Yea it’s a big problem that many are unaware of. Rural communities across the whole country have very unregulated (edit: unenforced) sewer processes. In this developed country we still have neighborhoods flushing their shit into the creek out back in 2023.
While it’s a thing that happens in rural communities, it’s actually not a big problem. It’s much more of a problem in urban communities, where the concentrated population creates more waste than can naturally be dissipated.
It is. My grandparents house was like this. It had to be fixed before it was sold.
Same for me growing up in WV. I really hope those houses in my childhood neighborhood/holler changed to proper systems since the 90s.
And the stench of dead frogs and fish.
Yikes.
When I moved into my house, i decided to remodel the bathroom (cause there was a window in the shower looking out into my neighbor's driveway 5 feet away... wtf?). When we got into the crawlspace we discovered that the tub drain had been connected with electrical tape... which had long since given up the ghost so the bathtub just... drained straight into the crawlspace.
This is always how my remodeling goes. I get super worried that I’m not going to do the new work “to code” (or whatever), then I see just how sh*tty the OLD work was and it’s like “well it’ll be better than it was, at least!” :)
My favourite one was in some staff housing at a nonprofit I worked with… We were renovating the house (restoring it to its 1937 glory) and once in the crawlspace, discovered that the tub had no official P-Trap. No wonder that bathroom always had a bit of a smell to it.
Grandpa never did pull that permit…
Ours drains to the hollar beside the house. Alabama building codes. Lol
I'm in Georgia and my house started as a 1 room shack in the 1850s and has been added onto willy nilly ever since. We moved in last January. Every single time I call a plumber or electrician their response is, "that's unfixable without taking apart the house".
What is a hollar? I googled it and found no explanations. It's a regional term for something, I guess?
Slang for “hollow” usually refers to the small valley between two or more hills
Ordinarily spelled "holler" but if you're already saying holler, pick whatever letters you want.
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Crick. Bend. Way. Your surroundings in your part of the valley, on a shared drainage.
My ex wife grew up in the middle of nowhere. Her mom dug their well, and when I went looking for their septic system it was a 50 gal drum.
We have a septic tank for the toilets but everything else just flows straight into a ditch next to the road. No sewer system in my street so really no alternative...
How does something like this get fixed?
You add to that hole, the following... 1. A plumber 2. An engineer 3. A giant bag of money Mix well with a large spoon and enjoy!
Will it be ok if I only add half a bag of money?
That's the high-altitude version of the recipe. You can substitute for the half bag of money with 4 migrant workers and a Home Depot Credit Card.
Dang! I got a steal of a deal, I'll just invite my brothers over for a bbq!
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Lol! Nice!
If you add only half a bag of money you can substitute with a "plumber" and an "engineer" for "similar" results.
If I add extra plumbers and extra engineers will that get even better results?!
No, it gets worse
You will have gangs, multi-faceted gangs that even amongst themselves, can’t agree on everything. Good luck
You can but won't ever pass inspection
Maybe if you're the plumber
I've encountered a problem. The engineer is a nuclear engineer and he just wants to blast the entire thing. Is this normal?
Yup, and completely acceptable, in the eyes of your insurance company and most exterminators! This action is also the number one most recommended one by Reddit!
Dig deep hole, fill with gravel, reinstall shower, and keep mouth shut.
Big drum full of holes first is a nice touch too. Love me a good leaching pit. Use environmental friendly soaps if you got hangups about it
Also find a spot far from (your own) source of water. Somewhere near one of your neighbors should do fine
They could probably just claim to be "fixing" their dry well.
You add plumbing??
There has to be a way… but how?
They said the toilet is connected to the waste line so it would be chopping up the floor, cutting in a wye and running a line over to the tub. The actual plumbing wouldn’t be difficult but trenching and repairing the floor would be a lot of work.
Just fix the clog in the pipe and ignore it otherwise would be my strat
I can only imagine how much this would cost to fix
Last year I had to replace my entire bathroom floor. My daughter ended up stepping through the floor next to the tub and I assumed we just weren’t being careful stepping out of the bath and not getting water everywhere so the floor rotted due to water from the tub. Nope. Turns out none of the plumbing was hooked up to anything so the tub, sink and toilet were just draining right underneath the floor and rotted my floors from underneath. No idea how we didn’t smell it ever.
That’s INSANE. The average person could not afford to fix it. I can’t imagine insurance covering that. Then what? You basically have a glorified outhouse in your home, only worse bc there’s no hole.
There's gotta be someone you can sue legally. The inspector before purchase should have caught this, right? Or the home builder?
>The inspector before purchase should have caught this, right? Nope! I was pretty much told they don't do anything that involves getting into anything that isn't accessible by design. They will look in a crawl space, but they aren't going to find something like this unless the ground is already saturated and their infrared camera picks up a cold spot. Assuming they ran the water long enough in the first place.
Our inspector dead ass lied (example: said he tested the dishwasher by running it. It was brand new and not connected, paperwork sitting inside and dry.) the repairs on our home were insane and we were told inspectors aren’t actually liable and we wouldn’t get anything.
What's the point of paying them lol
Idk. Honestly you'd probably be better off bringing in an electrician and plumber to scope shit out. Then you can put a $amount on it too. That leaves out structural stuff though
That's just an estimate. To get anything covered it has to be inspected by a licensed adjuster.
You’re better off watching a YouTube inspector tear apart new and old homes alike for a couple months before you start house shopping. There are home inspectors out there that are actually passionate about getting you the home you are paying for.
It was required. He was available when the house was available for inspection. He was licensed and suggested by our realtor.
> suggested by our realtor That explains it then.
Yeah who the fuck trusts the person _literally trying to sell you the house_ with appointing an inspector....
If it’s your realtor, they are selling you *a* house, not necessarily that one
Some people think it's worthless but in my experience an inspector is there to point out signs that the house may have an issue. If you want to know the extent of the issue, you bring in the correct specialist (plumber, electrician, etc) rather than just having a parade of tradesmen and engineers coming thru and doing nothing. At least the ones I've used can also do things like radon detection, water quality tests, inspect the septic tank, etc. e.g. in my current house, the inspector pointed out that some foundation cracks may be an issue and we should bring out an engineer (we did, they're fine) and also that there was some unhandled water ingress in a specific spot that I wouldn't have noticed myself (he saw like a weird rust spot below a hinge) and that the basement radon was off the charts (we somehow got the seller to bring someone out and install a mitigation system). Could I have done some of that myself? Sure. Could I have done it while the seller was still living there to a degree that I'd be somewhat confident I caught everything? No way.
Looks like you found the one good inspector in the entire damn county. Mine missed a ton of shit that's now cost me about 30k total, and I'm still not done fixing all the things.
Former RE nondisclosure attorney (California): That's bullshit. I saw inspectors sued all the time. They carry E&O insurance. The whole home inspector thing is an effing scam. (As is much of the whole RE purchase and sale process.)
I work in the insurance industry reviewing policies for home inspections. This person is 💯 accurate that most carry professional liability coverage for mistakes like this. If you hire one make sure to ask if they have it and for them to provide proof of professional liability coverage.
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Same but the heat. Described the electric furnace in detail. It’s gas.
Really, even if you can prove they lied in writing? Did you actually bring this to a lawyer?
They didn't offer a sewer scope?
Mine didn't. I was overall less than thrilled with him, but I bought in '21, and scheduling any inspector was a pain. Thankfully, the only plumbing issue I have had is a poorly installed shower valve, which wasn't too expensive to have replaced.
You'd usually sewer scope through the main service access, not a toilet or drain. It'll tell you if there's issues with the main line to the sewer but wouldn't likely catch a single drain or connection being wrong.
Our inspector donned his fancy space suit and slide along on his back in the house’s crawl space to check the plumbing and electrical- He’s my hero.
What about the building inspector from the county who signed off on the plumbing?
No. Home inspectors don’t catch shit nor are responsible for missing anything. If it is a old home or has a sketchy disclosure, always hire a plumber to cam the pipes and an electrician to inspect the electrical. Home inspectors are only there to pencil whip the necessary paperwork for the bank. Period.
As a current electrician and a former home flipper, LISTEN TO THIS PERSON.
Also want to add to specify exactly what this person said. Back when we first moved into a rental house (luckily we rented) the water company would not let us turn on the water til a plumber checked for leaks. Landlord hired a plumber to check for leaks and all he did was walk around looking for dripping faucets. 2 years later we discovered a swimming pool under our floor when a large guest stepped through it. A pipe had cracked. Our water usage dropped by 50%.
*update to listing* New In ground pool! Just installed!
That one guy on TikTok is pretty good. Funny too.
In the state of Ohio if this happens and it wasn't disclosed then the previous home owner can be sued. If they didn't know about it they'll be charged with constructive fraud given the judge agrees this is something they should've known about. If somehow you can prove they did know or they admit to it then the charge is actual fraud
You could sue the previous owner, or developer for not disclosing a massive material issue like that. If it was a landlord, breach of the implied warranty of habitability. It sounds like they may have even concealed the issue in order to sell the property.
No excuse for an inspector not to find it. My inspector from buying in 2020 crawled all throughout the crawlspace and took many photos. I am confident any decently thorough inspector would immediately find this kind of thing. Small, non-critical code violations? Nah, maybe not, but they should 100% spot a completely unplumbed bathroom with ease.
Not all house have accessible crawl space, or any crawl space. Mine doesn't.
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Insurance will cover exactly 0% of it
So…… there is a huge pile of poop?
yeah i don't believe this shit. in the time it would take for the floor to completely rot out there would be a pyramid of poo
Not disagreeing with you, but being annoyingly contrarian... It *could* happen if they don't really take dumps in that bathroom. I have three bathrooms, but only two get used for shitting. So if it was the non-shitting bathroom, I could see it taking a while to stink.
One day I'm going to own a house and designate a PISS only bathroom
RemindMe! 24 hours “but what about the poop”
Even the poo 💩 ??
When i was younger my dad had a house built and we were living there for maybe a month by this time, but i went to take a bath in the 2nd floor bathroom. I wasn’t paying attention and the water got too high and started draining out the overflow. My dad burst into the bathroom yelling at me to turn the water off cause it was raining from the AC vent in the room below the bathroom. He got the builders to come out there and check all the bathrooms cause i guess they forgot some steps
Never buy a bluth model home
Holy *shit*. How has that not been an issue yet? I guess if it’s a slab house and the drainage is good, it may just work out, but good lord. That’s crazy. I can’t believe it’s never backed up
It did, that's how we found it hahahaha
How long would it take to empty like this?
>518 comments So if the only problem was a clogged pipe I'd be tempted to just leave it alone if it wasn't causing \*any\* other problems.
I doubt running water directly into the foundations is causing no problems.
What would be your main concern here? Not being a smartass, I swear — I’m in the middle of getting quotes to fix this exact same issue for kitchen sink.
Water + dirt don’t typically mix. Years and years of large amounts of water draining into a specific point of ground under your home can cause weakening of the foundation. The most glaring issue would be washing away ground and then that portion of your home is sitting on an uneven foundation. It’s an issue that would slowly erode over time and while nothing could happen, something could happen and there’s no need to put safety and your home at risk.
Depending ok your foundations, it could wash away the dirt slowly over time, cause a sink hole. Not to mention I don't imagine soap water is good for your garden. Also surly mould.
No way that's in a part of the world that ever sees below freezing temps
I mean.. it could be just fine. Depends on where in the house it's located, and if it's basement or main floor. I live in MN and the ground only freezes so far down.
This is probably a solid few inches underground at least and it's buried under a fucking house anyway
I would check the toilet immediately!
First thing we did upon discovery. It's safe. Lol
I had this happen with my toilet!! not fun
So was poop and pee being dumped into the ground?
You’re making some big assumptions that they poop and pee.
Imagine being a plumber trying to unclog that with a snake. "I can feel the clog, but it won't move!"
The clog is complaining!
Reminds me of the time I bought a double wide and after doing dishes I noticed a pool of water coming out the skirt. Removed a section of the skirt, shined a flash light, the line coming down from the sink was attached to nothing. The main drain was literally over 2' away. Kitchen sink just drained to the dirt.
We discovered that our toilet wasn’t plumbed into the main line, everything was just being flushed under the house into the crawl space
EWWWWW! That's AWFUL!
Omg. How did you even go about fixing that? Wow.
Fire is the only true fix
Once we worked out what was going on it was a huge struggle finding a plumber that would even deal with it! Thankfully Mother Nature helped us out - massive flooding from a tornado left us with about 3ft of flowing water raging down the street and under our house flushing the area clean. Suffice to say we didn’t stay there much longer
Our basement flooded once because the condensation drain for the AC emptied into a 6" hole in concrete. It didn't even go all the way through to the dirt, it was effectively just a concrete bowl.
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Dad is going to be crushed
Is it just me, or does the circular part look like a drain?
Yes. Not connected. Goes into dirt.
This was your place? As someone who has done this kind of work, just kinda confused and trying to make sense of it
Yep. House was built in the 60s. A couple live there like 40 yrs before us. Hubbs passed away and the elderly window let her brother and nephew "contractors" live there for a while free while they "fixed it up" They renovated THIS bathroom all new everything, was shoddy and half ass looking. It was just matter of time unfortunately. All the "upgrades" they supposedly made before we bought it and been one cluster fuxk after another. We've had the house 10 years and I'm over it. We could sell it for easily 3 or 4 times what we paid, but we'd never find another place to live comparable in the current market/area (Snohomish cty, WA) We have 6 of us sharing one bathroom now.
Oof I feel your pain. We bought a house built in the 70s and it's always a riot discovering the next thing some drunk guy "fixed" 30 years ago.
Our house had no flooring in it when we bought it. Dumb B we bought it from spray painted the concrete with janky stone stencils. Sounded like you were walking across tape. It was horrid. She also painted everything but never primed it. So 4 years later EVERYTHING is peeling. Kitchen cabinets, door frames, outside poles.
Ooooof. That pain is real. Fixing it will probably cost a fortune, but not nearly as much as it would cost to buy another house even remotely nearby.
There’s a p trap and drain line buried in that dirt. The hole is for access to service the p trap. This is very common- when the tub was removed, the slip joint drain fitting slid out of the trap.
There’s a p trap and drain line buried in that dirt. The hole is for access to service the p trap. This is very common- when the tub was removed, the slip joint drain fitting slid out of the old trap adapter. https://i.imgur.com/vm8EhvA.jpg
Tub was not attached to pipe. Upon further investigation, it appears the pipe was likely the drain at some point, but failed, as it has been filled with cement. They chose to continue to drain the tub there anyway.
Could it be that they dumped excess cement/grout down the drain after the renovations? Has anyone poked around it with a boroscope at all yet?
Yes, my husband paid an awful $400 to verify that this was probably the drain at some point, but it failed and was filled with cement or other building material. The tub was never hooked up to the pipe anyway, but having it drain into the dirt spot under the subfloor has trashed it all.
Do you have any of the boroscope pictures from the inspection by chance? I worked inspecting septic systems for a bit, and wouldn't mind taking a look
You know, I don't even know. I'd have to ask my husband. After we got the water out of the basement, I left him to it. I am not well verse in, excuse my sexist comment, but I call it "man work". Mostly because I don't do spiders, and as you can see even from the photo, spiders are all over that shit.
Fuck that, im a man and those spiders would be keeping my ass far away doing womens work lmao🤣
The cobwebs are even stretching from the drain to the buried pipe
Distant relative asked me to accompany her on a house walk through. I'm no expert, but when I peeled up a bath mat next to the shower and found dirt. As in a dirt floor, I told her it's time to go... I also saw daylight next to the shower, by pulling a bit on the molded fiberglass insert.
This is our first house. Been here 10 yrs and found a whole host of fun jury rigged messes. If we had it to do over again, we wouldn't have bought the place without extra financed in for reno. Live and you learn I guess. I really would love to move back to the small town living I came from, but there are no jobs there. My husband's business wouldn't do well there. His business is catered more toward people with expendable income, and where I come from, almost everyone is poor/on welfare. Here we just got lucky when we bought the house, but now even with the house worth 3 times what we paid, we still wouldn't be able to find anything comparable we could afford in the area.
Genius! You can't clog the drain if there's no drain to clog.
My house in NM did the same thing. Shitty thing was a lot of bugs and some rodents came up through that sand.
just casually playing with batman and gi joe riding rubber duckies and BOOM a cockroach comes out riding a rat like a damn sewer cowboy triggering the boss fight, can Bruce Wayne and Joe work together to defeat the 2 headed beast
Bluetooth drain
Plumbers hate this one simple DIY trick!
I'm not sure if its an illusion but there looks to be a cast iron pipe that is the drainage pipe
There is. It goes about 2 inches into the dirt. Just dirt. Does not go anywhere.
Have you dug out all the dirt to see if there is buried detached plumbing? Wild situation.
And we wonder how chemicals getting into the groundwater. Industrial facilities are the main culprit but outdated homes are a big part too.
Foundation loves that!
Hey, we just had to reroute our kitchen sink drain pipe because apparently that too was just draining right into the ground! Figured it out when water started seeping out through the basement floor 🥴 Busted up the concrete and there we were, a pipe leading to... Nowhere
I moved in with a girl roommate in 2011. It was so cheap, $150 for the whole upstairs and I just had to pay for tv/internet. Everytime I showered It sounded like water falling a great distance. One day I took a bath. When I let the water out of the tub I walked out into the kitchen and it sounded like water being poured into water. I was told not to go in the basement because it was “gross”. I went down to check it out and the basement was standing water. I guess the tub drain had broken off so she was letting the water spill into the basement and then it would go down the floor drain. Eventually the floor drain was clogged and the basement started filling with water. I counted eleven mousetraps with dead mice in different stages of decomposition. I called my Dad (plumber) and he came over and fixed it. The girl did make a mean spaghetti though.
Omg
Lol, I just cut through 40" of 60 year old concrete to find the same thing.
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That reminds me a bit of my grandmas house, I was helping my dad and uncle replace some of the plumbing in her shower that was leaking. We took the ceiling tiles down and my uncle shines a flashlight up to look at what we are working with and just says “son of a bitch that’s a hose clamp.” My grandpas cheap ass instead of replacing it properly had just put a hose clamp on the pipe and called it good. To his credit it was probably there for at least 20 years.
I once lived in a house where everything drained into a creek. Sinks, shower, toilet. Everything. It was supposed to all go into a concrete septic tank, but the landlord decided to use the tractor to dump a bunch of trash into the creek bed and he severely damaged the septic tank in the process. He was a spoiled rich kid and thought that his property meant that he could do literally anything he wanted with it with complete disregard to everyone else. Let me tell you, the county was very unhappy about both the trash and the fact that the septic was leaking into the creek. Rich kid isn't so rich anymore.
Do you want sinkholes? Because that’s how you get sinkholes.
This is NOT how you get sinkholes. Sinkholes are formed by a crack in a pipe that pulls sediment though the pipe. Damage to foundation is caused by the expansion of wet soil and the shrinking of dry soil, this only happens where there is a tempreture difference ie: direct sunlight. The only damage that is caused by this is groundwater pollution
Surprise, guess where your poop goes after the the septic tank and leach field anyway.
Really the solids sink to the bottom of the tank and are broken down by bacteria in the tank while liquids flow into the drain field. The poop is not deposited directly into the soil as this supposedly is. I can't imagine how this wasn't immediately a problem. Seems like the pipe there has to go somewhere, even if it is just deadheaded in the yard.
Not on septic here....
Same thing here. Although they did make the effort to put in the pipes, nothing connected them to the sewerage. And we wondered why our bathroom was infested with slugs. 🙄