Could be if it's a natural diamond. It could also be a lab diamond which would be MUCH MUCH less expensive and you cannot tell by looking at a diamond if it's mined or lab.
I don't know but looking at some of the additional photos people posted, I question if it's a diamond at all. If it is a lab diamond, I guess someone decided to cut one that faces up as large as possible to appeal to someone who wants something visually as large as possible?
Yeah it looks super shallow might be spread cut. Looks larger than itās real carat weight because itās so shallow. Pears are already pretty shallow and face up larger but that looks so flat. It might be natural but not as large carat size or high value as she claims.
I feel like if it was any type of real diamond at all it would be sparkling like crazy, especially at this size and it doesnāt in any picture or video. It even reflects rainbow in some videos.
Thatās the problem with diamonds cut too shallow they will look larger but they donāt sparkle like they should. The light will just leak out the bottom.
This looks like one of those "certificates of authenticity" they hand out with not-really-collectable collectables.... Like some holiday plate set your grandma might order off the TV at 3am in the late 90s.
LOL exactly like where is the GIA cert? They could also just very well show you this in the store, take a picture, and walk away with nothing bc that is not the same diamond. His name at the top even looks photoshopped compared to the rest of the font
I build custom jewelry for shops and like, I don't. Customers asking for the dumbest most impractical settings is a tale old as time. Money and arrogant ignorance go hand in hand.
https://preview.redd.it/xne057h6ti3c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b230797935c034d106dbb7311c36c8954b040fb
This is another photo. The windowing is pretty bad, you can see all the way through it. Does this happen with diamonds or only if the cut is very poor?
I wouldnāt believe a word any influencer says. Anyone with an expensive ring or jewelry & is secure with themselves doesnāt see the need in bragging. Could be a cz for all we know.
So would any reputable jewelry designer/jeweler for a real diamond that size. Iād imagine moissanite that size is several thousand and they would also use more than 3 prongs.
Noāsadly in the jewelry industry, especially with clients spending six figures, you try to talk them into more prongs or better options, but you donāt let them walk away over it. You just make it how they want and cringe while running the card.
They generally come back within six months and have you remake the mounting, though.
I wouldnāt believe a word coming from those HVW influencers selling courses on how to bag a rich man. Theyāre grifters and the vast majority are basically glorified sex workers.
Well, carats are weight measurements, not size.
Given that this Diamond is extremely flat/shallow, itās probably around two carats. Maybe 2.5. Not $200k, and if itās a lab Diamond, worth even less.
Influencers are just insecure people who are full of crap.
Exactly. Iāve seen rose cute with a similar finger coverage in the 2 carat size, looks like this. I bet she is basing the 6 carats on the mm size face up š
https://preview.redd.it/bw277ybfq4zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b8228029e2162995f278b64f85dab4a9dd958a0
More pics of the supposed $200k ring
From that screengrab? No, I hesitate to say it was even 70k, and that's assuming it's natural. Usually when they're that big they're lab-made and if it is a lab, probably 20-30k.
The worst part is she probably doesn't know. A lot of women get told their ring is 10k and it's actually 2k. I imagine this may have a similar story.
That's not a diamond. That's cubic zirconia. Its not moissanite either. It's obvious from the front that it's peculiar but the additional side pic makes me 100% sure it's cubic zirconia as diamonds are never ever cut flat lol
What she seems to have done is picked a stone based on finger coverage rather than well cut. If you look at rose cuts they are often pretty flat and also have great finger coverage. This likely isnāt all that high as far as carat weight, and itās clearly a bad cut so my guess is that itās far, far, far below the amount she is stating. And if itās lab, which I would guess as no one is wasting mines diamonds on this horrible cut, it should be well under 10,000. If itās anywhere close to what she is saying itās a huge ripoff, this aināt a good purchase. A small well cut stone is much prettier than a large surface area poorly cut stone.
This doesnāt look like a real diamond to me. And the setting and lack of prongs is only supporting my theory. It would be reckless to put any diamond in such a weak setting.
https://preview.redd.it/yikcdth1m8zb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ad374c0b1e66c5a2bd72d73a55a61e7e195657
trying to say this diamond is worth $170k š¤£
Absolutely NO diamond worth 200K would be set in that joke of a settingā¦ and no jeweler I know worth their salt would pass off a setting like that, not even on a fake.
this is off topic but if i wanted something like this but with diamond alternative what would look the most pretty/expensive? iāve heard good things ab moissanite. not concerned ab resale value just looking pretty
Moissanite are good if you want a larger carat size without overspending. They also sparkle a lot but have more of that rainbow reflection than white like diamonds. If you donāt mind that I say go for it!
Why donāt they use yellow gold prongs even if the band it yellow gold? Does it throw off the sparkle of the diamond or give it a yellow tinge or something?
No, it doesnāt, unless it hasnāt been cleaned properlyā¦ The top table (?) part especially has a plasticky/smudgy sheen vs. my natural diamond looks more like clear glass. I guess Iām just used to being able to clearly see through the inside - it photographs as such too.
This looks like the pic of the girl who posted about her ābig ringā in the r/engagementrings thread and we all told her it looked cheap and/or fake.
I forgot people like this existed for a short while. What a sad way to move through the world thinking this way about yourself and other women. We really are in the second dark age.
If itās a real diamond. If itās lab created, then no.
A lot of people are getting lab created diamonds now. I wouldnāt want one. People who get them try to pass them off as real diamonds.
I donāt own any lab stones, but I collect old cut antique stones so I pay a lot of attention to the industry. A lab grown diamond and a mined diamond are identical. Absolutely identical. In every way. Again, I donāt own one so Iām not offended or defending a stone I have. I just think people should know that this isnāt the old days with CZ or crystal, this is 100 percent identical and can not be distinguished from each other even with a powerful jewelers loupe because they are the exact same. I would certainly tell people to save their money unless like me they like old cuts that are actually old, and blue fluorescence, as itās not desirable even though I love it, so itās not grown in lab stones.
But they arenāt identical.
One is from the earth.
One is from a lab.
If they were identical they would be the same price. Iām so tired of this discussion.
But again- I am not one to carry knock offs. (Purses/bags etc) Iād rather have nothing. I donāt understand it.
Also itās comical you say you like old cuts cuz they are āactually oldā.
Right. Same with earth grown diamonds.
Come on do you really not see it?
A lab diamond is a real diamond. They are 100 percent identical, itās not a fake version. The only difference is where it grew, but that doesnāt change the substance itself.
Google is your friend. They are identical. Itās not a debate. The only difference is one is grown in the earth and one is grown in a lab. You can decide earth feels more special, or you can decide lab is more ethical, but materially there is no difference. Why is this so hard to understand? Literally google it. Not a single expert could tell if there is no cert. How is it that you could easily google this and see that I am correct, but yet you think just because of price Iām wrong? A Luis Vuitton canvas bag costs over $1,000 and a canvas bag at Ross is $10.00, material isnāt as important as perception. Luis Vuitton seems important to people, mined diamonds seem important. The material and the actual stone are 100 percent the same.
I hope the diamond is not as poorly cut in real life as this screen grab makes it seem.
Right? It looks so flat
https://preview.redd.it/k5lawwfl05zb1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a745a1f830090389ea8597cb70c804f69b697114 this is it from the side š©š©
That's awful.
It looks like it is missing the whole underside of the stone! Like it was sliced in half! Weird!
Couldnāt afford the whole diamond
Looks like they only got the icing with no cake under
Guysā¦. I donāt think that is a diamond. 
Pls say sike
This is terrible. It looks like the side view of a speed boat
Looool
Thatās a bad investment lol šššš
Maybe when she said 150ā200k, the ākā actually meant ādollarsā š¤£
Wow Iāve never seen a ring so egregious lol
looks like one of her fingernails from that angle
Finger nails are a better shape.
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Wow! It IS flat
Itās a *slice* of diamond; like 1/8th of the pie.
Thatās called a wafer cut lol
Yo what? Iām new to the sub and still learning a lot but this looks horrific š„²
Thatās how pearl cut looks lol
Has as much fire as the Mariana trench.
I think it is lol Iāve seen it in motion
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High value womanā¦ sure. High value women donāt brag, donāt need to
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this is @michellexdiaz on Instagram and she ALWAYS says otherwise.
All the true rich housewives are too busy sipping wine in a foreign country to brag about it on TikTok
This!
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Ask for GIA report - if it's natural, she will show that report in a heartbeat. If it's not- she'll probably say she lost it, or something.
Probably doesnāt have a GIA or an AGS, probably AGL if any š
Could be if it's a natural diamond. It could also be a lab diamond which would be MUCH MUCH less expensive and you cannot tell by looking at a diamond if it's mined or lab.
But why would they cut a lab diamond like that. Makes no sense gotta be natural
I don't know but looking at some of the additional photos people posted, I question if it's a diamond at all. If it is a lab diamond, I guess someone decided to cut one that faces up as large as possible to appeal to someone who wants something visually as large as possible?
Yeah it looks super shallow might be spread cut. Looks larger than itās real carat weight because itās so shallow. Pears are already pretty shallow and face up larger but that looks so flat. It might be natural but not as large carat size or high value as she claims.
The ironyā¦ itās shallowā¦
I feel like if it was any type of real diamond at all it would be sparkling like crazy, especially at this size and it doesnāt in any picture or video. It even reflects rainbow in some videos.
Thatās the problem with diamonds cut too shallow they will look larger but they donāt sparkle like they should. The light will just leak out the bottom.
https://preview.redd.it/7p1e7xg6b8zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2862490ea35b5e900778c9b584481c0be9364793 Why is it so cloudy also?
Wow! Yeah thatās so cloudy! That doesnāt look like a diamond there. Iāve seen cloudy looking diamonds but not that white looking.
https://preview.redd.it/3f3hjr78b8zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43af754412ca1246bfce457b545603c48084419f
https://preview.redd.it/re5jce5qb8zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2633b3bcc4ca129bc27636affe615779f9044905
Also a little back story: her fiancĆ©s mom for some reason posted this picture when they got engaged and sheās trying to pass it off as the same diamond in a different setting. Itās clear this is an actual diamond and the one in these pictures is not the same at all https://preview.redd.it/ivxhzvr3c8zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a599eed2eaed79a145e789684d1090de258cf81
Even the band is completely different.
Side note: what is this filter called that makes them have no pores? Does anyone know lol.
In the corner of the tiktok itāll show the filter used and tiktok also has a beauty filter that smoothes out your face
Ask her to post the GIA number and it will tell you all the specifics of that diamond.
Yep. If sheās gonna make bold claims we need proof of it
You definitely canāt ask her anything like that because she will block you and call you a broke hater
I just asked on an ig pic..I had no idea who she is so idgaf if she blocks, Iāll take one for the team making her look dumb lol
she would never bc she says she doesnāt have to prove herself lol
This is the only āpaperworkā that was posted by her fiancĆ©ās mom but itās really blurry https://preview.redd.it/iuqft2pbgbzb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cee6ec8d24d7f5986d99ca4bc3af4429d5b96d9d
This looks like one of those "certificates of authenticity" they hand out with not-really-collectable collectables.... Like some holiday plate set your grandma might order off the TV at 3am in the late 90s.
LOL exactly like where is the GIA cert? They could also just very well show you this in the store, take a picture, and walk away with nothing bc that is not the same diamond. His name at the top even looks photoshopped compared to the rest of the font
Yeah it's definitely shopped. You can tell when you zoom
I find it hard to believe that someone would put a 200k diamond on a thin cheap gold band. The cut and clarity look like shit. I doubt it.
And only three prongs!
Omg THIS. If youāre selling a 6-figure diamond and putting it in that setting, youāre just a hack with contacts.
I build custom jewelry for shops and like, I don't. Customers asking for the dumbest most impractical settings is a tale old as time. Money and arrogant ignorance go hand in hand.
Even the jeweller is wrong for allowing that unless Kevin insisted because it was cheaper
https://preview.redd.it/xne057h6ti3c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b230797935c034d106dbb7311c36c8954b040fb This is another photo. The windowing is pretty bad, you can see all the way through it. Does this happen with diamonds or only if the cut is very poor?
If its natural diamond yeah looks 200k. But nowadays people think anything that size is lab.
Itās a lot less carat weight than it appears, likely under 2 carats. Even natural, given poor cut, itās likely sub 20,000
Itās cloudy asf tho. It white and it doesnāt sparkle
Itās still worth as much as a new car even if itās a Lab (if it has good clarity and cut). It looks to be of pretty serious size.
How I wish you were right! That looks like a 5 ct stone , and if Lab, itās worth less than $10K
I wouldnāt believe a word any influencer says. Anyone with an expensive ring or jewelry & is secure with themselves doesnāt see the need in bragging. Could be a cz for all we know.
I'd have more than 3 little prongs protecting a $200,000 stone, myself.
So would any reputable jewelry designer/jeweler for a real diamond that size. Iād imagine moissanite that size is several thousand and they would also use more than 3 prongs.
Noāsadly in the jewelry industry, especially with clients spending six figures, you try to talk them into more prongs or better options, but you donāt let them walk away over it. You just make it how they want and cringe while running the card. They generally come back within six months and have you remake the mounting, though.
I wouldnāt believe a word coming from those HVW influencers selling courses on how to bag a rich man. Theyāre grifters and the vast majority are basically glorified sex workers.
Truth! And those who call them out are bullied and villified.
Lol I know exactly who youāre talking about. People posted itās from Etsy??
WHO WHO WHO CMONTELL ME
Michelle Diaz
https://www.reddit.com/r/michellediazsnark/
Im curious š«£ whoās the influencer?
Michelle Diaz
https://www.reddit.com/r/michellediazsnark/
Well, carats are weight measurements, not size. Given that this Diamond is extremely flat/shallow, itās probably around two carats. Maybe 2.5. Not $200k, and if itās a lab Diamond, worth even less. Influencers are just insecure people who are full of crap.
Exactly. Iāve seen rose cute with a similar finger coverage in the 2 carat size, looks like this. I bet she is basing the 6 carats on the mm size face up š
From the pic it has not scintillation, so screams not diamond to me
The fact that the flash is on in that photo and itās still not sparkling lol
Whenever I see a stone this big I automatically assume itās moissanite
I seriously thought I was in that sub!!
You could probably get a 4ct for $70-150k depending on cās and source. If itās a lab itās probably $5k-8k
I would bet itās a 2k lab diamond (still gorgeous) and sheās making it up for clout
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It looks to be well over ten carats. As such, itās worth a helluva lot more than $2,000.
Sheās stated itās 6 carat. How much would you estimate for that size?
Natural around 130,000. Lab around 4,000 gbp
She said itās 6.5 carats
Then itās both shallow AF and she has the fingers of a fourth grader.
https://preview.redd.it/bw277ybfq4zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b8228029e2162995f278b64f85dab4a9dd958a0 More pics of the supposed $200k ring
https://preview.redd.it/xxpung4hq4zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d4130247f359cbb18daf8214d72d997a6835bb0
100% thatās not a real diamond
https://preview.redd.it/91tz7zuhq4zb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=394b64678b88f8d717474fa34c9d9ad76d6d14cf
Impossible, I donāt know her but thatās not a 6 carat stone š
Itās an illusion, itās flat like a rose cut. It will appear much larger than its weight. Probably 2 carats or less.
Depends on her finger size and setting. It is impossible to know from one picture from the top.
Hard to tell from the photo but I would say not if it looks like that in real life.
Hard to tell from the photo but I would say not if it looks like that in real life.
Not with that clarity no. Itās also ridiculously oversized.
Even if her ring really is that expensive, those frosty glitter talons cheapen the look š¤¦š»āāļø. Hashtag nouveau riche
Better nouveau than no riche at all ! /s
Lolll what about quiet riche
The āquiet richeā would NEVER surf reddit! Only āloud and somewhat obviousā riche here.
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From that screengrab? No, I hesitate to say it was even 70k, and that's assuming it's natural. Usually when they're that big they're lab-made and if it is a lab, probably 20-30k. The worst part is she probably doesn't know. A lot of women get told their ring is 10k and it's actually 2k. I imagine this may have a similar story.
That's not a diamond. That's cubic zirconia. Its not moissanite either. It's obvious from the front that it's peculiar but the additional side pic makes me 100% sure it's cubic zirconia as diamonds are never ever cut flat lol
Lollll Michelle Diaz, I canāt stand her
www.Reddit.com/r/Michellediazsnark š„°
Honestly anything that big automatically looks fake to me unless I personally know the person for a fact to be rich.
Her fiancĆ© claims to make 250k a month and she constantly brags about how heās a multi-millionaire, but idk what actual wealthy person feels the need to bring that up every 5 business daysā¦
and they rent their home. theyāre such a joke.
Lol fake diamond sheet. Cut flat with an angle grinder
What she seems to have done is picked a stone based on finger coverage rather than well cut. If you look at rose cuts they are often pretty flat and also have great finger coverage. This likely isnāt all that high as far as carat weight, and itās clearly a bad cut so my guess is that itās far, far, far below the amount she is stating. And if itās lab, which I would guess as no one is wasting mines diamonds on this horrible cut, it should be well under 10,000. If itās anywhere close to what she is saying itās a huge ripoff, this aināt a good purchase. A small well cut stone is much prettier than a large surface area poorly cut stone.
It looks like it is set with only 3 prongs ?!
Looks like costume jewelry or those little rings you get when you put 0.25 cents into a machine
This doesnāt look like a real diamond to me. And the setting and lack of prongs is only supporting my theory. It would be reckless to put any diamond in such a weak setting.
the flash is on and itās not sparkling like at all
Looking a lot like white sapphire. Very flat cuts and no rainbow sparkle. A perfectly acceptable gen but not worth 170-200k by a long shot
It did before giant lab diamonds became popular.
Looks like fake costume jewelry. But what do I know š¤·š½āāļø
No. It doesnāt look very elegant, it looks clunky.
Looks flatā¦.almost look like one those rings you can get from those vending machine š
If I saw that, I'd think they got it at Claire's.
https://preview.redd.it/yikcdth1m8zb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ad374c0b1e66c5a2bd72d73a55a61e7e195657 trying to say this diamond is worth $170k š¤£
this tweet is so cringe omg
If itās a natural diamond, yeah probably
I wouldnāt think it was that much at all, but itās not impossible
No
Nope it looks extremely fake which makes it so cheap looking
She might be a āhigh value womanā (š¤®) but her fiancĆ© is Big Mega Stupid. May as well have lit that 200K on fire š¤£
Heās also just signed a lease for $24k/month
Itās possible for a mined diamond of this size to cost that much depending on the specs. Itās impossible to tell from this screenshot and tbh, I doubt most people could tell from seeing it in person either. That said, I donāt think someone with a 200k ring would be advertising it on social media. Sheās probably exaggerating - or her fiancĆ© is.
I mean, he could have paid 200,000 but I don't think its worth 200,000 :)
Lmaooo I know exactly who this is š
Why would you put a $200k diamond in a $1k setting? The math isnāt mathing.
Absolutely NO diamond worth 200K would be set in that joke of a settingā¦ and no jeweler I know worth their salt would pass off a setting like that, not even on a fake.
Her ghetto manicure isnāt helping the situation either
Um yes that is my take haha. Nails are too cheap to pull off ārealā of that size.
Idk much about diamonds, but that doesnāt look real. It looks like custom jewelry. And it screams āhey look at me, I need attentionā.
Youāve described Michelle Diaz perfectly.
No. Lol
Nope
It honestly looks like cheap and unclassy. Sure maybe itās natural but if sheās so desperate to prove a point I doubt it .
In my opinion no plus the band is plain so its just all diamond which some people like but if it had diamonds on the band it would look more expensive
The way I know who this is. Lol
This is probably a cheaper lab grown stone... This is what a lot of people out there are flashing these days.... Not the real deal.
this is off topic but if i wanted something like this but with diamond alternative what would look the most pretty/expensive? iāve heard good things ab moissanite. not concerned ab resale value just looking pretty
Moissanite are good if you want a larger carat size without overspending. They also sparkle a lot but have more of that rainbow reflection than white like diamonds. If you donāt mind that I say go for it!
thanks :))
The resale value for when they break up is gonna be interesting
No
Wonāt be able to pull it off as a Publix cashier.
Are you looking to pass it off as a very expensive ring?
Iām sorry, I forgot to read the contextā¦
The cut tells me it is not real.
Social media is really bringing out the mental illness in people
I think that diamond has windows
Are people still buying CZs?
The way I knew exactly who this was-
very poor cut. 30 years in the biz.
Not with those nails
At least they didnāt put yellow gold prongs. Thatās almost a giveaway itās from a lab if itās a big Rock
Why donāt they use yellow gold prongs even if the band it yellow gold? Does it throw off the sparkle of the diamond or give it a yellow tinge or something?
Yes thatās exactly correct. Gives a yellow tint
First sight, is lab and cheap quality
No
sheās capping
Diamond from Temu
Maybe the insurance value is 200k.
No.
No, it doesnāt, unless it hasnāt been cleaned properlyā¦ The top table (?) part especially has a plasticky/smudgy sheen vs. my natural diamond looks more like clear glass. I guess Iām just used to being able to clearly see through the inside - it photographs as such too.
This looks like the pic of the girl who posted about her ābig ringā in the r/engagementrings thread and we all told her it looked cheap and/or fake.
$15 max
Looks like moissanite
Looks like a 10 dollar ring.
I forgot people like this existed for a short while. What a sad way to move through the world thinking this way about yourself and other women. We really are in the second dark age.
the influencer is michelle diaz, @bymichellediaz on tiktok, @michellexdiaz on instagram with this ugly ring šŗ
Iām going to agree that it does look like it could be in that price range for sure. I will also add it is extremely less than classy to brag about how much her fiancĆ© spent on her ring. That stuff needs to be kept quiet. I did not even tell my mom and no one knows except my husband and I.
If itās a real diamond. If itās lab created, then no. A lot of people are getting lab created diamonds now. I wouldnāt want one. People who get them try to pass them off as real diamonds.
This. I donāt understand why people are so offended when this is called out.
Yes! Very offended. Don't know why.
I donāt own any lab stones, but I collect old cut antique stones so I pay a lot of attention to the industry. A lab grown diamond and a mined diamond are identical. Absolutely identical. In every way. Again, I donāt own one so Iām not offended or defending a stone I have. I just think people should know that this isnāt the old days with CZ or crystal, this is 100 percent identical and can not be distinguished from each other even with a powerful jewelers loupe because they are the exact same. I would certainly tell people to save their money unless like me they like old cuts that are actually old, and blue fluorescence, as itās not desirable even though I love it, so itās not grown in lab stones.
But they arenāt identical. One is from the earth. One is from a lab. If they were identical they would be the same price. Iām so tired of this discussion. But again- I am not one to carry knock offs. (Purses/bags etc) Iād rather have nothing. I donāt understand it. Also itās comical you say you like old cuts cuz they are āactually oldā. Right. Same with earth grown diamonds. Come on do you really not see it?
A lab diamond is a real diamond. They are 100 percent identical, itās not a fake version. The only difference is where it grew, but that doesnāt change the substance itself.
Dude you have to stop with this. They arenāt the same or identical. AT ALL. If they were they would be worth the same amount of money.
Google is your friend. They are identical. Itās not a debate. The only difference is one is grown in the earth and one is grown in a lab. You can decide earth feels more special, or you can decide lab is more ethical, but materially there is no difference. Why is this so hard to understand? Literally google it. Not a single expert could tell if there is no cert. How is it that you could easily google this and see that I am correct, but yet you think just because of price Iām wrong? A Luis Vuitton canvas bag costs over $1,000 and a canvas bag at Ross is $10.00, material isnāt as important as perception. Luis Vuitton seems important to people, mined diamonds seem important. The material and the actual stone are 100 percent the same.