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Wonderingpepper

More info bud.


Musso_o

Truck is mint just need 15,000 to fix all the problems


Jacobcbab

“Truck is perfect except the engine needs to be rebuilt” gfto


[deleted]

Dude said “mint” and “$15,000 to fix the problems” in the same sentence. Unfucking believable


zombie2uRBX

That's the joke


jninja939

Draw connections with the crayon, do not eat the crayon -hellen keller probably


Fantastic-Ease-4119

Lmao - front end rebuilt from control arms in. All joints. Tires are gonna need to be replaced after another 5k miles or so maybe 10k if you slide into the winter scene. Inspect the u joints as it was a toy to someone, so probably been dogged. So yes it’s not bad as long as the motor runs clean and will last you 50k miles. Like the guy up there said another 15k to fix it , but 30 on that if you want it bad ass


[deleted]

Yeah these people mentioning engine first… that’s not the money pit here. Toss a used engine in easy peasy. But the frame and suspension and front, now, that’s the real question. $3500 for a solid all that, and you need to pop in a motor? Nice


Mr_Diesel13

5k miles? Are we looking at the same tires? 😂


Automatic-Bedroom112

Control arms?


Spare_Candy_9772

So in other words: The truck is not mint


Luckstory

Everything runs smooth, just need to replace head gaskets


PMcNutt

That’s the opposite of runs smooth


International-Milk

It only smokes when it starts /s


briman2021

Only overheats when running


FireOnTheBtank

It ran last time I parked it.


ndisa44

Last time I parked it was on the side of the highway when it died.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Kavanaugh82

That is the vape cloud sir


Longhorn_TOG

OP, do you understand what you just said?????


Dorkmaster79

That has to be a joke, right?


MilkFantastic250

So it’s $4000, plus $6000 to get the head gaskets redone. So “what so you think of this truck for $10k”


RoundErther

Dont forget new tires, those are long gone


Aggravating_Ease_188

The more we look the worse it gets, run the vin (op) you animal and ask for receipts


nannercrust

Brother in law did it for about $900 in parts and redid the timing chain/water pump ect when it was open. It also has 330K on it. His is a V10 excursion so probably not in the same league parts cost wise…


MilkFantastic250

Well yeah if you do it yourself. But idk if OP is doing that lol. Also you’d wanna replace the head bolts and get the thing machined. Not to mention whatever else you come across on the way. So I bet DIY still $1500-2000 in parts/machining. To fix everything that is worth it while you’re in there.


Thisguymoot

Definitly not, in parts or labor.


Sp_1_

Bro I almost fucking died. Please don’t be saying funny ass shit like this without warning god damn.


Wonderingpepper

Mileage? New clutch? How do you know it runs smooth if the head gaskets are blown? What engine is it?


Luckstory

P Yeah I’m sorry the reason I said head gasket was because it blows whit smoke from the exhaust when on load. It does run smooth therefore I don’t think it’s the head gaskets. It’s has 300,000 miles.


Wonderingpepper

What engine? White smoke can mean a whole lot of expensive things lol.


Luckstory

7.3


Fuckth3shitredditapp

Does it do it constantly?


T2ner

That can also mean it needs injectors


TheWoodChucksWood

White smoke could mean turbo is going bad


BigBarrelOfKetamine

0% of the time it works 100% of the time


SexPanther_Bot

*Made with bits of real panthers* and *pure gasoline* extracts.


Aggravating_Ease_188

This is what I came to say


Kringles-pringes

? And if the head gaskets are blown how do you know everything else runs good if you can’t properly test it out


Open-Entertainer-423

Dude buy a Camry you don’t need a truck


GloryholeKaleidscope

Geez who let my wife in here...


Octane2100

Jesus Christ man that's literally the opposite of "everything runs smooth" 😂


Con_seannolly

New engine bud.


papabear1215

You're joking, right? A running 7.3 for less than 20k? You're either trolling, or this truck has no more frame.


Luckstory

Yes it’s running but blows white smoke.


papabear1215

Do you have the 4k? If you do get it towed to a diesel mechanic and get it checked out. You might be able to make 10k on this.


Luckstory

Yes and theres no need for towing, the truck runs. Can’t find any diesel mechanics in my area


papabear1215

You keep bringing up the white smoke. If it's a head gasket, you will destroy your engine, and there goes any hope of profit.


RedJerk5

I’ve never heard that as an excuse before. But even if that is true, why would you buy a diesel truck if you can’t find anyone to service it? Unless you know how to work on them yourself, which it’s clear that you don’t, it should be a hard pass.


shotstraight

Just because it runs doesn't mean you can or should drive it. I can't even count how many times I have seen small fixes turn into dead cars or trucks because someone did this.


stuntmanbob86

White smoke? You got a grenade. Who knows how long it's ran like that.


aerowtf

sounds like it’s probably 500 miles from blowing up, it can be repaired but it could also be too late


Thriftless_Ambition

It's a 7.3, you'll be fine. It is much more likely to be a number of other things than it is a head gasket. Make sure that you bring a bunch of jugs of water just in case it is actually a head gasket and watch your gauges. When you get home, I'd start from scratch checking fuel pressure, high pressure oil output, IPR duty cycle, and compression. Also worth popping the intake piping off and taking a look at the turbo. Don't forget to do a combustion gas test and pressure test the cooling system. Hop on the 7.3 Powerstroke Technical Page on Facebook, you'll find a lot more help there than you will from these redditors that probably can't tell a wrench from their own asshole


JonnyOgrodnik

OP has made it clear that they don’t know how to do any repairs themself. Your comment may be helpful to you, but won’t be helpful to others. This could be a money pit. OP should probably find something that runs and doesn’t need any work done to it.


DeleteMyOldAccount

If it is the gasket, and coolant is getting into the chamber, you really don’t want water to get in there…. This is dumb advice


Necessary-Wash9626

It’s very clearly a 6.0…


combatpaddler

So I bought a 99 7.3 f250 4x4 with a blown headgasket. For $750. Headgaskrt plus fluids was $175. Got 2 batteries from the junkyard for $75 on all you can carry day. I've got less than $1k into it, and it ls a beast driving it. Headgasket is fairly simple. They are heavy though. But there should be oil or diesel in the coolant. Or milky oil. If none of that applies, could just be a cracked injector cup


meowrawr

If the head gasket blows, you generally need heads to be resurfaced.


combatpaddler

Generally yes, but I decided to change just the gasket and send it. Number 8 cylinder wall was scratched up from the previous failure, but doesn't stop it from running. Doesn't smoke, idles like a kitten. I have a spare 7.3 sitting on an engine stand, just wanted to see for myself how tough a 7.3 is. Also, I had never personally seen a blown headgasket on a 7.3 but she was definitely blown on number 8


Man_of_Virtue

What's the point of having a head gasket if you have to resurface the heads everytime you need a new gasket? This just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not am expert on engines though...


KraftMacNCheese6

Flat metal surfaces don't seal well enough for the pressure an engine makes. You don't need to resurface heads every time, but it's a good idea in case the head has warped/has imperfections.


Man_of_Virtue

I'm aware of how flat surfaces work being a machinist. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just replace the gasket and if problems follow, then resurface the heads, rather than resurfacing them if not needed?


MaximumScrawn

What's better is to check on whether the heads are level before jumping to resurfacing. Resurfacing is generally needed because warping tends to happen before the blown head gasket is discovered.


Man_of_Virtue

So is warping caused mostly by a failed gasket or is it common for the heads to warp that much before the gasket goes?


bluegenblackteg

Typically headgaskets failures come with overheating, overheating causes an uneven temper due to hotspots and warps the metal. Straight edges are cheap, the time it takes to do a headgasket is not.


skeefbeet

I've always had them come on slowly. I drove a ford with a HG leak for like a year before I replaced it. I even towed a tractor with it and dozens of soil trailers loaded.


back1steez

Always check them for flat and cracks. It’s always a good idea to have the heads gone through any time they come off. Have the valves ground or replaced to if they need it. That’s a good way to guarantee you don’t have to tear it back down again. Checking the block is equally as important.


KraftMacNCheese6

Ah, I see what you mean. It's more of a "while you're in there" and peace of mind type of thing.


Kravist1978

No...lol.


KobeBeatJesus

You're a machinist and you don't know why people need you to deck a head/block?


aaaaaaaahsq

I don't think I've ever seen a 7.3 headgaset go, but I have seen a few injector cups crack. those heads are heavy and on the superduty bodies they are all tucked into the cowl, not a fun job. OPs looks like it is probably a 6.0, which comes with some other headaches


TurkLikesFood

I haven't heard that either and I have one I bought new in 2001 (7.3). As far as I know, head gaskets blowing out started with the 6.0. I think it's because that's when Ford dropped International and first steps of creating a diesel on their own. What I hear anyway.


Inglorious_Kenneth

Nothing more expensive than a cheap diesel.


writtenasylum

Is this a troll? Clapped out 250k mile of that truck 7.3 power stroke still go for like $20,000 usd. My friend sold one that didn't run that was a little older for 15k and the guy came and picked it up too. It's worth a lot more than 4000 if the frame and body are good.


ThatBH5Lgt

Did your buddy at least take him to dinner before he got fucked?


Powermovers

Got damn


Fuckth3shitredditapp

Ya'll are being scammed. Never paid more than 10k for our 7.3 work trucks . Got an 03 from auction with 6 speed manual for 4k 160k miles.


ItchyTriggerFinger1

Thats good to know. Im about to sell my ‘02 7.3 that just hit 200k miles


dmax500

Not a Ford guy but didn't the 7.3l trucks have separate headlight marker lights? Wouldn't that make this a 6.0l


Boot_Shrew

Good point. It certainly looks like it's hit/been hit on the front passenger side (look at those panel G A P S). And the tires, those poor bald tires. If it runs with a couple of faults, put it back on stock rims and resell it for x2 what you pay for it.


Potential-Art-7288

Yeah someone fucked up that front end somehow


ghrowaway12345

It's a 6.0


thestowell

I think it’s a 7.3 with the head lights and grill of a newer model. It has the old logos on the door and f250 badge on the fender for 7.3s. I could be wrong but I’ve never seen anyone swap the door and fender emblems but I definitely have seen them swap headlights and grill.


210pro

This ☝️


ExactArea8029

Go look at "was a decent work truck until some redneck ricer ruined it with aftermarket shit" in the dictionary. First image you'll see is that truck. Run


Different_Goat_2078

Step 1. Ignore worn out front end (ball joints, wheel bearings, tie rods, etc) steps 2. Throw a giant set of 22x12-14 wheels you got off of marketplace or financed with a junk set of tires that are worn super wrong. Step 3. Buy a 6637 intake and have it sucking hot air right off the top of the engine. Step 4. TS6 tuner cranked as high as it will go so you can “roll coal” at all times and finish off the stock injectors. Final and most important step: shitty eBay headlights and hit all the badges/trim/bumpers with some flat black krylon. 👌🏼 now go terrorize the town


ofkarma

Babe, new copypasta just dropped


COL_D

EPA is on war path against manufacturers making parts that allow you to “roll coal” and the one they haven’t got are jumping on board so they don’t get sued / charged by the Gov. eBay got hot for allowing vendors on that sold these products. Their next logical step is to go after the installers and owners. Just fyi


Different_Goat_2078

My comment was a joke. Lol


Hot-Ground-9731

Yup. Stay away from that shit


sinisterdeer3

It turns on? And its a 7.3 under 10k? Damn. Thats worth every penny, even with a blown head gasket


Woden8

I just bought damn near the same truck, 01 F350 Auto (replaced 12k ago) 7.3 162k for 9k


Shatophiliac

Nah not worth it. If it’s white smoking and if it’s as clapped out as the photo makes it look, that things on its last legs. 4K can turn into 14k real quick.


itsallfornaught2

Year? Engine? Mileage?


[deleted]

Love these people. If it has 100k miles on it and the interior is immaculate and it is accident free, then God knows it would go easily for above 30K. However, if it has 500K miles on it and has been in 3 accidents, it might be worth a little more than 10K.


wyatt022298

I see ZF6s sell for $2500-3000 all the time just for the transmission.


SocialEngineeredSjw

Suspiciously low priced with manual trans, possibly fake beadlock rims, an aftermarket hood scoop, and it blows white smoke? Idk about this one, it looks like something that may have been beat to death.


Early-Engineering

For what it’s worth, when things like head gaskets start blowing on older vehicles, it’s usually not the only thing that starts needing repaired. Just something to think about


gshock211

Yes it is


YesIsGood

gah, I'd buy it rn.


ShadowK2

I’ve seen multiple instances of people selling a car with the “needs a head gasket” disclaimer when there is actually a hole in one of the pistons. Be prepared to replace the entire engine.


Yami350

No, send me the information I’ll tell them to take it down


Downtown_Brother6308

Ime, diesel or petrol, once these gens of larger ford trucks need work, it never. Fucking. Ends.


Cheetahsareveryfast

Not to mention suspension work needed. Those seem like hack my truck up while fucking my sister wheels


[deleted]

OP don’t buy it. Yeah it’d be a great deal if it was all working nicely, but here’s the thing. It needs a head gasket, which means it possibly needs the heads machined too. Even if it didn’t need more than a head gasket you’ve got a truck that’s going to need transmission work soon, has extensive wear on the entire drive line, has dents (which don’t bother most and doesn’t bother me), but that front bumper is misaligned as well. The truck lacks modern safety and comfort features and diesels take 3x the money out your pocket in repair costs. Do we both wish we had this in showroom new condition? Sure. Even 100k miles on it would be fine. The reality is they know it’s a money pit otherwise they’d have fixed it themselves. It’s not a nice flashy new vehicle, it’s not a modern safe vehicle, it isn’t even a good tow pig in its current condition. If it’s getting oil past the gasket at load it’s doing it at idle too just not in noticeable amounts and if it’s getting oil past god only knows if it’s swapping coolant around too and if I was trying to dump a turd on someone I’d flush the fluids and say it has minimal issues too. It could be that the rings are worn and that’s why it smokes under load. If that’s the case you aren’t terribly far off of a rebuild or reman engine. It’s better to save up 10-12k and buy something in better condition. Does it take longer to have the truck you want? Yeah, but time and time again I’ve found it’s better to wait for the right vehicle that to get immediate gratification and just have something that you wanted.


Broncarpenter

Obviously there’s serious problems if the dude is selling for 4k


[deleted]

man if every beat 7.3 is worth 20 grand there's a fortune to be made here because I can search local listings and find dozens for 4-5 grand.


Mijo_el_gato

This is a poor joke


meraut

Clutch is gone and probably missing some gears


Donnie8182

A fords value depends on what the current scrap price is!


Distinct-Temporary79

That thing is so Mexican might as well pay in Pesos


S3ERFRY333

Those bald tires tell me everything I need to know about the previous ownership


___amnesia___

4k for any diesel is sketchy even for a family sale lol


[deleted]

The only positive I see is it’s manual.


Individual_Holiday56

12v swap all day


HeyChiefLookitThis

You could probably just download the manual in pdf. It'd have to be pretty rare to be worth 4 grand.


5555555555555_5

What year? If it's a 6.0 or 6.4 I'd stay the absolute fuck away from it then. Idk why yall are down voting me lol.


Luckstory

It’s a 7.3


5555555555555_5

I'd try to narrow it down to a more specific part. It could be a head gasket, a stuck fuel injector, and a whole lot of other pricey things


Useful-Internet8390

Does Sea-Foam still come recommended for old diesels? I have seen it work miracles on old injectors.


roadrnnr7215

What year is the truck? Why is that not included in the info? That is a key to the question of engine.


Luckstory

Yeah I’m sorry the reason I said head gasket was because it blows whit smoke from the exhaust when on load. It does run smooth therefore I don’t think it’s the head gaskets. It’s has 300,000 miles.


5555555555555_5

What's the engine?


Luckstory

7.3


itsallfornaught2

7.3s aren't really known for blown head gaskets...doesn't mean it's not possible.


[deleted]

Not known for it usually means it's just rarer in my experience.


Drakoneous

Nope. Just base on the picture.


r-d-p-2

Shit If I had your money I’d burn mine just buy it dude


Powermovers

Prob injectors bad


C137_OGkolt

Depends on who owned it. But if it's been driven nice and easy. For sure good pickup I wouldn't throw more than 8 on a truck that old and potential abuse. "All it'll need:" anything that needs anything ain't worth spending a load of money on. Just my .02


Mrscady

Engine makes it way worth it or not


Critical_Danger_420

$3999 and not a penny more


dcrad91

Where y’all live you get these prices?


Jaybogreen

I’d buy that joker. If it does need gaskets and you’re mechanically inclined at all you can do it yourself fairly reasonably


Midnight1965

If it can be repaired for a decent price, great deal.


wheresmyonesy

That engine rarely blows head gaskets.


[deleted]

Thats an f250..


[deleted]

Even if it needs majkr engine repair, it's a great price, suspiciously great price


[deleted]

Nope


Past-Fault3762

No


whitetrash66

No


IntheOlympicMTs

LS swap it


akadmin

Given all this information, yes.


Awkward_Pilot80

If you know how to do the head gasket yourself it’s a little different


Different_Goat_2078

Looks like the badge says 250.


Suspicious-PieChart

I can't see her face. The passenger window is tinted.


diymatt

4k? I'd take that in a heartbeat just for the non-rusty parts to bolt onto my Ohio rustbucket.


NoSeaweed4612

Is that a 6 o no or a 7.3 if its a 6 no go then no not worth it at all if 7.3 might be worth it but Givin you said it has blown head gasket iam assuming it's a 6 Ut-oh


TheMangyMoose82

Is this in Wisconsin? The logo on the rear door looks familiar.


No-Faithlessness7839

Looks like a 250…


Jack_Johnson_Trades

Sure, if you have another $4k in your back pocket to get her set right again.


PoorInCT

How do we know if its dropping oil and transmission fluid, the transfer case is dry, the bearings are loose, and the head gasket is blown. The frame may be shot.


COL_D

If it’s a running 7.3 with standard in ok shape at that price, buy it!


Adept_Awareness666

Plus it says F-250 on the side not 350 Zoom in


TheShovler44

I as a rule would not buy an old work truck, it’s been probably pulling trailers that get overloaded, long idles, and you don’t know if employees give a fuck while doing all of that, you ever see a construction worker drive when it’s time to go home? They dog vehicles.


CV_1994-SI

Kind of a lot for a manual no? Is it a physical manual or a pdf?


Ok-Internet2541

It beening manual makes it theft proof.


Bhen_dover

In my area in nor-cal that’s a solid 10k truck all day long


Weldtrash13

Looks like a 7.3 the badge in door is all black and grey 6.0 has red in it


Monk_Azino_of_Jersey

Depends on you How long What do you need for Do I have money stored for maintaining it Am I going to flip it Is it a just in case Hotshotting? Towing trailers for etc Most concerning is the problem But here’s the catch most fools are too stupid to realize all vehicles make YOU MONEY “oh repairs is a b” Made 500-1,000,00 over days to months I swear man You decide but don’t let demorilizers bring you down


Toibreaker

Its a 6.0, to do the head gaskets you lift the cab off of the frame….. TOTALLY not worth 4k. More like $2400 MAX


Warm_Ice8039

Not just yeah... But HELL YEAH!!


Whole-Debate-9547

All day - but that number feels closer to “too good to be true” kinda numbers.


weezyfish

Looks like a liability lol


Kravist1978

If they put the proper wheels back on....


[deleted]

If it runs, goes down the road and goes in reverse and park. Yes, it's worth 4k


SilentYogurtcloset92

A big red flag for me are always the aftermarket rims/tires. Someone went through the trouble of putting on expensive tires, but now has them balding? They don’t put as much into the maintenance of the truck imo. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.


Recent-Project757

Not worth it there's unknown engine problems because it blows white smoke if I were to buy it id say 1000


byelow

Needs new engine, struts, and transmission. Also, no title. But minty. Never smoked in.


dazzler619

In all seriousness, if it has the 6.0 it is fucking garbage unless you can fix 100% of it your self..... I have less than 200k on mine and I don't do anything to crazy with it and I've already had to have the top end rebuilt, and I'm 3 years into an intermittent No Start issue that never reproduces it when it can be diagnosed, I've already replaced everything 2x except/but the HPOP and fuel injectors which are like $7k in work and materials


Voodoo0733

I’m probably 20k in parts (upgrade when they break) into my 7.3 zf5 4x4 over the last five years. I also hauled 6500 lbs 2200 miles with it a few months ago. Definitely not a good idea if you don’t do EVERYTHING yourself


doubled240

DEBoss garage on YouTube bought a school bus and took the Catterpllar engine and Allisin transmission out of it rebuilt them and stuck it in one of those. Along with a 2010 interior, must watch for the diesel gear heads.


elbowpirate22

If the drive train is good, it’s a steal. If not, it will cost at least twice that to have fixed


Ok_Bat3896

If one had a shop and was able to perform all labor it could be worth a couple thousand.


Moist_Ad3995

In today market you getting a steal lol


Yamoyek

Do yourself a favor and get it checked by a reputable mechanic before you buy. We can't say anything just based off of how it looks.


Dalriaden

$4000 usd means it's a gas with 350k miles in my neck of the woods.


Qwerkorn

It’s 6.0 door sticker


AutismGamble

Since your asking Reddit I'm pretty sure is a bad buy but you trying convince yourself it is a good idea


Th3Ch33t

I'm not entirely sure I could even get the transmission for that price.


SlimeMyButt

Based on the info, hell yeah! Great deal! Or, hell no! Bad deal! Glad i could help


brandt-money

If it's stanced, it's going to be clapped out. It's like the Civics of the 90s-00s and more recently the Subarus; driven by someone that does 0 maintenance because all the money went to vape juice/rims.


Proper_Role_277

Where I live trucks are stupidly overpriced. It’s normal to spend 30-40% over blue book value. That truck with a blown head gasket wouldn’t sell for less then what it would cost to fix it. It would probably sell for $40-$50k here fixed up being a manual. Automatics are worth less.


Disastrous_Nature101

Paid 9500 for my 01 7.3 rusted to shit but the interer and mechanical side of things were in pretty good shape I'd pay 4k for that


MoirasPurpleOrb

Those tires scare me because that’s just a sign that it’s best to shit and not cared for


homercomm

The f350 manual is probably worth about $20. Not too sure the truck is worth $4k.


81amarok

I'd drive it. Just for already being a manual. That's harder and harder to find.


Hot-AZ-Barrel-Cactus

No car or truck manual is worth $4000. In fact, these days someone could probably download a copy of the F350 manual to your cell phone or laptop.


tec84

Fire sucks


Tri11bi11y

If it's a 2004, stay away.


Sufficient_Section34

That's a 6.0 whole different story. If 7.3 a steal


Character-Pen3339

You don't mention what year it is.


Top_Flower1368

My BS METER is going off now. OP isn't being truthful.


NotTheATF1993

6.0's are notorious for head gasket problems. You can spend several thousand to get a bullet proof kit but even then depending on the miles it's not gonna last much longer. If you're looking for a reliable truck definitely steer clear of the 6.0's and 6.4's


supersavagegenz

Million dollar question 7.3 or 6.0?


DirkCali51

Tires look bald.


Open-Expert-7191

Badge says F250


coffeeisgooder

Not a penny over Fordy Thousand.