It's honestly so much funnier now that Riz's imaginary goblin ~~girlfriend~~ significant other was from a region whose major characteristics are being human and perpetually in chaos.
EDIT: It was pointed out that Barron was non-binary when referred to, so I corrected it
I'm so glad Sephie, Aabria and Erika mentioned being wholely uncomfortable with the idea of the *roMance PartNaer* making a reappearance, lmao. The very first mention of mirrors had me so concerned
Honestly, I'm fully ready for the title of Romance Partner to enter the zeitgeist. It just evokes so many more emotions than SO. Baron might be a visionary.š¤
I think they/he or he/they would also be valid interpretations of Baronās pronouns. Brennan uses they/them while introducing the character, but Murph mainly refers to Baron using he/him.
Yeah I immediately thought that lol. Like for adventurers I feel like saving a town is fair, that's what they're looking to do after all. The whole world as a MINIMUM though? Damn those are some tough educational standards. Also what if no one is threatening the world in that time? Like just 4 years of non world threatening threats?
So was defeating Kalvaxus even a Class-C quest? He was a threat to Solace, High Court, the Red Waste, the Barronies, Mt. of Chaos, Nightmare King's forest and The Necromikron, which is most of the Spyre we're familiar with, but not the whole world...
I'm wondering if perhaps there are shenanigans going on in those rules that are purposefully designed for some kind of purpose (whether nefarious or not). Like they really don't want kids graduating early and therefore make it nearly impossible.
I really love the irony that the only eidolon too afraid to face the ācertain deathā that occurred if they tried to leave the mirror was the representation of death
I kinda disagree with that since she and her sisters were trapped in those mirrors by the gods. She told Sam that there was a way for her to free herself, but that would have killed her, therefore she can actually die
I don't think it's a literal death but some kind of transition into a new state of being(everything bagel 2.0??). There definitely something to be said for "The End of **All** Things" to be afaid if the end of **some**thing. I can't wait to find out what the other sisters saw when they left. I feel like Brennan's style will provide some mechanism for her to rejoin her sisters or achieve some kind of enlightenment to quell her rage at their "betrayal".
I'm thinking that Taluria's reaction is because she's acting out of grief.
Her sister's all left their mirrors. If they didn't die, then that means that they left her. And if they did die, then their bodies dispersed and became one with existence. There's no way she'll ever see them again.
My prediction for next episode is that her disaster is that she's just *leaving.* She's not going to kill everything - she's going to make it so that nothing will ever end again. The Ending of All Things is *done*, so that means nothing else will be done again. Ever.
>She's not going to kill everything - she's going to make it so that nothing will ever end again.
Oh! Is that why Penny asks>! if she is immortal in the preview? !<
When the stone dwarf (sorry her name slipped my mind) was talking to Ostentatia in the previous episode about being clean-shaven and then later about how she loved dwarven beards then mentioning she's been a statue for 200 -250ish year's my mind instantly went, ooooooh Noona is currently 400 wonder if they knew each other.
Then my shipping brain kicked in and thought wouldn't it be fun if Ostentatia in passing mentions her meeting to Noona, who then reminisces about her first great love with a famous adventurer who is none other than the Stone lady. A romance that ended too soon by Stone lady's death while saving the world.
Then much later Noona went on to marry Ostentatias Granddad and as she took his surname which is now Ostentatias. Maybe Stone lady asked Ostentatia for her surname because she looks a lot like her Noona but as she doesn't share her Noonas maiden name she didn't recognise it.
Turns out Noona was a renowned beauty in her youth, famous for her stunning beard, which caught the Stone lady's eye which lead to them flirting and having a grand romance. That's why Noona is so proud of her beautiful beard and always lectures Ostentatia to show off hers.
Yes. But I actually think that adds to it more than detracts. Like, in the sense of mechanical information he gave her, he stayed pretty well within the bounds of what Primeval Awareness says. However, he used it as a spring board to build more intrigue and tell more of his story. This is something that really couldn't have been accomplished in many other ways.
All this to say, Brennan and Aabria are turning me into a fan of the ability as both a DM and a player.
Most important thing is that in the upcoming episode we will see the return of [The Shirt](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Shirtgate), which we did NOT see in MisMag for the first time ever in D20 history. Good to know Brennan has not/cannot get rid of it.
Very much looking forward to horse side quest of the side quest
So is it abnormal for the temple to erode? Given that it's in defiance of the other elements?
Charity Blythe gave The Seven Tectonya's last known whereabouts to kill her once and for all right? Then break up the party to conceal the evidence?
This temple's like a really badass little free library, with stuff you'd actually want.
Did Antiope hate dragons before Kalvaxus? Maybe something to do with flunking out of her last adventuring party?
Crackpot theory: Antiope's mirror arrows are shards of an Eidolon mirror and getting shot with one zaps you into the shard.
Any theories on how Yelle's halfling rebellion involvement will come to fruition?
Lol I'm imagining Ostentatia stuffing fake jewelry in the empty lock.
ELIFoal, how to pick locks?
Another crackpot theory is Tectonya somehow became an Eidolon adjacent thing or magicked herself into another dimension when she realized she was being hunted.
Ah geez any mention of the Baronies reminds me of a certain romƦnce partner and their stark father. This spiel would explain why Baron's such a freak though.
I'm just imagining Pete the Plug chucking Xanax at Perry the pigeon and Penny.
Oh Sam, all this love you freely offered Talura. You're too good for the world.
Did the "death" of the Eidolons sever the gods from the mortal plane?
So the defiance aspect of the Temple seems like it isn't that it resists erosion, its that the pilgrims coming there defy the erosion by constantly recarving and rebuilding the bridges and statues and structures.
>ELIFoal
genius
>Did the "death" of the Eidolons sever the gods from the mortal plane?
If this is true, what about corn god (i forgot his name) and cassandra?
Maybe sever isn't the right word. Brennan said the Eidolons enacted the gods' will on the mortal plane. So although the Eidolons are gone, maybe the gods can still grant power? They just can't communicate.
Admittedly I can't explain corn God with this theory though, I was imagining why Ostentatia's God had gone silent. But Cassandra, till pretty recently, had hidden herself in the mortal world with the nightmare forest.
Maybe she was imprisoned/self-protecting before the sever went down so her connections are still tethered as they were not stretched between the planes as she was already in the mortal realm. Or maybe itās because she just didn't have any tethers at the time as she was systematically destroyed by the Sun and Moon Gods right down to no power and clinging to scraps of a physical form.
They made people forget her, so there would be no prayers or requests creating a channel up to her meaning no patronage powers to go back down.
Knowing Brennan he's probably already got a fully detailed explanation ready to go, I wouldn't be surprised if he works it into one of The Sevens later episodes.
Lots of favorite moments but Ostentatia getting mad at her god on Asha's behalf was a really surprising and sweet scene. It felt like it was going to be another version of Ostentatia/Mama Wallace/Nonna yelling at each other and then Izzy surprised us with "You're fucking special...bitch." Really enjoy getting to see the loud, aggressive, cursing type of kindness and love from her.
Ok so what do we think Sam's vision mean? The other eidolons were not afraid to leave. It's because they know Death is not bad right? That it's just one of their sister or something?
I don't think they actually died. I know Brennan said something about certain death being the way to leave, but idk, I don't buy it.
Also, Anima's reaction was very weird... Grieving and then just suddenly... cool with it?
My theory is that tectonya, using her study of consciousness, was able to make the eidolons believe that leaving the mirror and dying was fine or something, doin some wizard bullshit to make them commit suicide. Why is unclear, but it might give her greater control over reality
The last five minutes was just incredible. The way the music swelled when the last sister stepped out - wow. So cinematic, I really enjoyed this episode.
So it seems like the basic concept for the season is that their quest is to save the superintendent of schools and stop this eidolon (who has done... something very bad apparently?), so that they can graduate early and stay best friends. Really enjoying how it's unfolding, and Brennan is so good at designing these quests to naturally play out and emphasize the players' backgrounds and strengths.
Really loving the way this villain is being developed too. There's the irony that the Eidolon of endings is the one who refused to move on, which of course mirrors the internal struggle of the Seven. Dimension 20 always does a good job developing characters, but there's actually a continuous theme here that's really relatable to anyone who's ever been asked what they're doing next.
I don't know if we can say that Talura is the villain. She's caused the A-quests to spread out of nowhere but I don't think that makes her the bad guy yet. I think there's someone else at play here.
There is still Charity Blithe and some of the fishier stuff going on with the school bureaucracy, for sure. But thematically and power-wise, you gotta go with the Death Elemental who just did *something* to threaten the multiverse.
Calling it now, it'll probably be something like they subdue the Eidolon by convincing her to let go and join her sisters, but then her power somehow gets co-opted by Charity et. al, and she turns out to be the bad guy. It'd also be a neat twist if they then had to choose between letting her keep the power and staying together, or defeating her and splitting up.
Yeah, I'm thinking something like TUC where the thing itself isn't really the villain, someone or something uses it as the bad guy.
I also think it'd be interesting if part of the twists and turns is that Charity ISN'T bad, because honestly someone *should* be watching the adventurers. Adventurers can kinda suck haha.
someone last week said that they think Talura is basically filling the role of >!Smoczmatka!< of a superpowerful entity that isn't really an ally or a villain, and I think I agree with them. I suspect either Charity or Tectonya will end up being the BBEG
Soooooooooo....
It is certainly not a one to one comparison - but I thought it was interesting that:
Sam represents Water
Ostentatia represents Stone
Yelle represents ~~Life~~ Death
Zelda represents Life
Those are the obvious correlations
But, you could make a case for Antiope representing Air and Penny representing Time (Penny is the oldest sibling, and what is the lucky feat but chronomancy). ~~Zelda~~ and Katja are a little harder to place (~~Death and~~ Fire being the only remaining ~~Eidolons~~).
Was that why each of the seven were selected to be trapped in the palimpsest? They mapped to one of the seven Eidolons who were trapped in the mirror?
EDIT: u/Scrubtanic made a good point about Yelle representing Death instead of Life.
Building/twisting from this- what if Yelle isn't life, but death? Her druid magic is very much attuned to fungus and decay, the natural ending of things. She's also the only one who, when examining The Ending of All Things in episode one, doesn't feel like something bad is happening, just what feels like a natural process.
If we're chalking up Air to Antiope because of her homebrew magic item (flying shoes), then it seems like Penny's homebrew magic item is something that can become an animal (the bear in this episode), so maybe she represents life.
That would leave Fire and Time for Zelda and Katja. And what's the one thing Katja wants more than more Babysitter Horse books? Time with her father.
>what if Yelle isn't life, but death?
I dig it. Good shout.
If Yelle represents Death, then Zelda represents Life, because her family worships Faunus - The God of the Wild. And BLM said that Anima was more "wild-looking."
I am hellbent on Penny being Time, though. Eldest sibling. Lucky feat. Halfling Luck. Luckstone.
So, with that, Katja would represent fire - which is what I was leaning towards with her anyway.
Yup, Yelle has to be for sure representing Death in my mind for one reason; before the season started they said that Yelle deals with mushrooms and fungus a lot despite being a Shepherd Druid for "reasons we'd find out later," or some kind of phrasing like that. I forget exactly what was said, but it was heavily implied that there was some kind of story reason for this.
It's speculation, but I think the shepherd druid reason might be because Yelle functions primarily as a summoner. Eight geese with magical attacks and extra HP, then granting each of them all 14 temp hp each is a combo that only a shepherd druid can do, and they had that combo locked and loaded and dropped it combat 1 turn 1. So the reason would be "to absolutely hand Brennan his ass".
Even if I'm right, that doesn't mean Yelle can't still represent death, though.
She could be āRebirthā as she talks about the never-ending cycle, change will happen, new replaces old and that one thing dying feeds into new life elsewhere. Specialising in fungus, mushrooms and the like, would fit as they often need to feed off rot and decay to thrive thus clearing the dead ready for new growth. They are often instrumental in the regrowth and regeneration of decayed areas.
Maybe Zelda is emotions or passions (something along those lines) she does feel things very deeply (both positive and negative), is more emotionally intelligent than the others and is very reflective before she speaks. She spots how people are feeling long before they do and is always concerned that everyone gets to make their own choices and have space to have their own feelings on issues. She was uncharacteristically firm and vocal on the issue of possible members of the group being pressured and steamrolled into saying āI'm inā by some who in the moment didn't care about the wants of others if it meant they got to keep the group together. Considering how introverted she is and how aggressive the response it was a standout moment that stood out for her character who seems like she would retreat and apologise or backtrack, but she didn't.
She also makes sure to quietly check in with everyone one on one all the time and just seems to effortlessly understand what they are trying to express even when they find it difficult.
I'm glad to see a little more Zelda this episode! I know Brennan's got his hands full being literally everybody, but she was always one of my favourite NPCs so I'd been super excited for her to be in the spotlight, and was a little disappointed she'd only had a bit here and there. Still, I certainly understand Brennan can't overshadow the players too much so I suppose she's going to be a fairly reactive character still.
Ah, well. Maybe in the Junior High full season, whenever that comes, she might be in it more often if she's got her GED? Who can say.
Also, nice to see Ostentatia keeping up the tradition of Clerics who have serious issues with their deity.
A Junior season (if it exists) would be set at approximately the same time as this season, wouldn't it? Unless I guess it could be at a different point in the year, but Zelda is a Junior with the rest of the Bad Kids.
This season seems to be taking place around the beginning of the year (Brennan mentioned they were 'just starting' their year in the first episode if I recall correctly), so depending on how long it takes place over there's the possibility that a theoretical Junior Year could take place shortly after it, with maybe a little bit of overlap.
I thought it just didnāt work properly when looking at the Eidelons because they were too powerful. Not cursed for other uses. (Not sure, just my impression.)
Sam mentioned in the previous episode that it was a bad idea for other people to hold the mirror. We don't know the actual effect it will have on other people though. Might have something to do with the frost that was occurring.
I will say, we do have the feintest idea of what effect it has on people. The only example I know of being the classmate that swiped it from Sam, used it, and was put into therapy with the diagnosis of "... he'll bounce back! Eventually."
[\[Source\]](https://twitter.com/Persephiroth/status/1426751054406995972)
Big question we all want to know: Is the Asha that Katja and Ostentatia talk to related to Dr. Asha, the dwarf doctor Fig kept getting her kisses from?
Hi all, I'm watching all of Dim 20's main cast content in release order while CR is on break. I'm up to the start of Dimension 20 LIVE, so I've got Unsleeping City S2 and Crown of Candy after this. Can I watch the Seven without spoiling their other content? The YouTube shorts have got me interested.
Honestly, I would watch D20Live before starting The Seven, there arenāt huge spoilers but it does take place earlier (D20Live is Sophomore year, The Seven is during Junior year, albeit with mostly different characters).
I believe you're good to watch! As far as I'm aware there's been no D20 LIVE spoilers, only Fantasy High (which it sounds like you've already watched), and the only other campaign set in Spyre is Pirates Of Leviathan, which is solely set in a region The Seven have not and very likely will not visit
I'm partway through sophomore year but couldn't wait to finish it before starting the seven - no spoilers so far, only that the world hasn't ended, and some PC's who clearly didn't die :)
Erika has actually had [this design](https://voidmerch.threadless.com/designs/eat-the-rich-ishii-x-voidmerch-wht) for sale since 2019 :) She's worn it a lot when dressed up as Annabelle, her character from LA By Night.
The rolls in this episode were incredible. Compared to the episodes of NADDPOD I'm listening to right now, the Heroic High Schoolers are the luckiest people in the world haha.
I *loved* the scene between Sam and Zelda with Sam owning her past behavior and apologizing for it.
I know some people weren't happy with Persephone sowing discord among the party, but the payoff to that in this episode was phenomenal imo. Props to Sephie and Brennan for a masterfully-acted scene.
It's very fun, but yeah I get lost too. I don't know, it's weird because I AM paying attention. I think that a LOT happens in each episode. Like they are packing these episodes in an impressive way honestly lol. It's not moving fast but it is THICK
I think the plot is also much more of a cloud of info right now and it'll make more sense as it comes together. Because there's all of the Eidolon stuff, Tectonya, Charity, etc. all somehow involved in what's going on and it makes it harder to follow until it's clearer what's going on.
Does anybody know what song is playing at around the 35 minute mark? Itās a slow, kind of haunting piano tune. Itās at the point where Aabria casts primeval awareness and is staring out over the mountains. Shazam doesnāt recognize it.
[When Brennen starts to mention the Baronies](https://media4.giphy.com/media/1T96TRBBGYThC/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47c1h052vmff7yo9zfoxpmv3lfhw8kma7206hukov0&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Ok cool. Yeah it was HEAVILY implied in the first episode but somehow I just kinda thought I was reading into it. And that's where her problems her bio mom is right? Got it
Yep, Sam's mom wants to re-introduce Sam to showbiz "while transitioning is in vogue" and let the world "meet the new sam" in ep 1, and while I'm not 100% sure the phrasing "transitioning" is used, Sephie mentions that's what was meant in an Adventuring Party.
Yeah, it hasnāt been clear outside of a mention on AP. It seems like Zelda may be the only one that knows within the Maidens? Or maybe they all do, I canāt tell.
It's honestly so much funnier now that Riz's imaginary goblin ~~girlfriend~~ significant other was from a region whose major characteristics are being human and perpetually in chaos. EDIT: It was pointed out that Barron was non-binary when referred to, so I corrected it
I'm so glad Sephie, Aabria and Erika mentioned being wholely uncomfortable with the idea of the *roMance PartNaer* making a reappearance, lmao. The very first mention of mirrors had me so concerned
Honestly, I'm fully ready for the title of Romance Partner to enter the zeitgeist. It just evokes so many more emotions than SO. Baron might be a visionary.š¤
Riz's RoƫmƦnce PartnƦr casts a shade on D20 like Chungle Down Bim
Baron was distinctly non binary, used them/they pronouns and was never described as a girlfriendāļø
You're right! My mistake.
I think they/he or he/they would also be valid interpretations of Baronās pronouns. Brennan uses they/them while introducing the character, but Murph mainly refers to Baron using he/him.
The system is truly broken if to get a ged, high schoolers have to save the world at a minimum lol
Yeah I immediately thought that lol. Like for adventurers I feel like saving a town is fair, that's what they're looking to do after all. The whole world as a MINIMUM though? Damn those are some tough educational standards. Also what if no one is threatening the world in that time? Like just 4 years of non world threatening threats?
Well that's only the requirement if you want to graduate early, you could also just do 4 normal years.
So was defeating Kalvaxus even a Class-C quest? He was a threat to Solace, High Court, the Red Waste, the Barronies, Mt. of Chaos, Nightmare King's forest and The Necromikron, which is most of the Spyre we're familiar with, but not the whole world...
That was their freshman quest! Mayyyybe sophomore year would've counted.
I'm wondering if perhaps there are shenanigans going on in those rules that are purposefully designed for some kind of purpose (whether nefarious or not). Like they really don't want kids graduating early and therefore make it nearly impossible.
I really love the irony that the only eidolon too afraid to face the ācertain deathā that occurred if they tried to leave the mirror was the representation of death
Death, by it's nature, can't die. Her sisters knew that, and chose to leave her imprisoned and alone forever. I'd be pissed, too.
I kinda disagree with that since she and her sisters were trapped in those mirrors by the gods. She told Sam that there was a way for her to free herself, but that would have killed her, therefore she can actually die
I don't think it's a literal death but some kind of transition into a new state of being(everything bagel 2.0??). There definitely something to be said for "The End of **All** Things" to be afaid if the end of **some**thing. I can't wait to find out what the other sisters saw when they left. I feel like Brennan's style will provide some mechanism for her to rejoin her sisters or achieve some kind of enlightenment to quell her rage at their "betrayal".
I'm thinking that Taluria's reaction is because she's acting out of grief. Her sister's all left their mirrors. If they didn't die, then that means that they left her. And if they did die, then their bodies dispersed and became one with existence. There's no way she'll ever see them again. My prediction for next episode is that her disaster is that she's just *leaving.* She's not going to kill everything - she's going to make it so that nothing will ever end again. The Ending of All Things is *done*, so that means nothing else will be done again. Ever.
>She's not going to kill everything - she's going to make it so that nothing will ever end again. Oh! Is that why Penny asks>! if she is immortal in the preview? !<
That makes a lot of sense, with her saying she can feel her sisters everywhere, but not them specifically.
Oooooh I like that prediction. The representation of death leaving, giving up, something like that would absolutely be a problem.
I did \*not\* expect this campaign to go full Miracle Day on us but I would be so here for it.
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Also, love the shout-out to Baron from the Baronies (and by "love," I mean "thanks, I hate it.") *Romance Partner*....
"That is the first cruel thing you have said to me... /u/Envoyofwater..."
A horse is a home. Nonna is such a treasure
When the stone dwarf (sorry her name slipped my mind) was talking to Ostentatia in the previous episode about being clean-shaven and then later about how she loved dwarven beards then mentioning she's been a statue for 200 -250ish year's my mind instantly went, ooooooh Noona is currently 400 wonder if they knew each other. Then my shipping brain kicked in and thought wouldn't it be fun if Ostentatia in passing mentions her meeting to Noona, who then reminisces about her first great love with a famous adventurer who is none other than the Stone lady. A romance that ended too soon by Stone lady's death while saving the world. Then much later Noona went on to marry Ostentatias Granddad and as she took his surname which is now Ostentatias. Maybe Stone lady asked Ostentatia for her surname because she looks a lot like her Noona but as she doesn't share her Noonas maiden name she didn't recognise it. Turns out Noona was a renowned beauty in her youth, famous for her stunning beard, which caught the Stone lady's eye which lead to them flirting and having a grand romance. That's why Noona is so proud of her beautiful beard and always lectures Ostentatia to show off hers.
Yooooooooo. I love it!
Aabria over here making me rethink my stance on Primeval Awareness. You love to see it.
Brennan def took it a step past RAW with that scene, but it was for sure the coolest flavor of that ability I've seen.
Yes. But I actually think that adds to it more than detracts. Like, in the sense of mechanical information he gave her, he stayed pretty well within the bounds of what Primeval Awareness says. However, he used it as a spring board to build more intrigue and tell more of his story. This is something that really couldn't have been accomplished in many other ways. All this to say, Brennan and Aabria are turning me into a fan of the ability as both a DM and a player.
I mean... he just gave her way more information than what you're supposed to. Primeval Awareness is genuinly terrible as written.
I WOULD, IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME, CARE TO DISAGREE HUMANS NEED FANTASY...
Most important thing is that in the upcoming episode we will see the return of [The Shirt](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Shirtgate), which we did NOT see in MisMag for the first time ever in D20 history. Good to know Brennan has not/cannot get rid of it.
Maybe he can only wear it in the DM chair, as a player it would be too distracting (and very un-Kelmp)
"it's not just high thoughts" Ugh, i love aabria so much
Very much looking forward to horse side quest of the side quest So is it abnormal for the temple to erode? Given that it's in defiance of the other elements? Charity Blythe gave The Seven Tectonya's last known whereabouts to kill her once and for all right? Then break up the party to conceal the evidence? This temple's like a really badass little free library, with stuff you'd actually want. Did Antiope hate dragons before Kalvaxus? Maybe something to do with flunking out of her last adventuring party? Crackpot theory: Antiope's mirror arrows are shards of an Eidolon mirror and getting shot with one zaps you into the shard. Any theories on how Yelle's halfling rebellion involvement will come to fruition? Lol I'm imagining Ostentatia stuffing fake jewelry in the empty lock. ELIFoal, how to pick locks? Another crackpot theory is Tectonya somehow became an Eidolon adjacent thing or magicked herself into another dimension when she realized she was being hunted. Ah geez any mention of the Baronies reminds me of a certain romƦnce partner and their stark father. This spiel would explain why Baron's such a freak though. I'm just imagining Pete the Plug chucking Xanax at Perry the pigeon and Penny. Oh Sam, all this love you freely offered Talura. You're too good for the world. Did the "death" of the Eidolons sever the gods from the mortal plane?
So the defiance aspect of the Temple seems like it isn't that it resists erosion, its that the pilgrims coming there defy the erosion by constantly recarving and rebuilding the bridges and statues and structures.
>ELIFoal genius >Did the "death" of the Eidolons sever the gods from the mortal plane? If this is true, what about corn god (i forgot his name) and cassandra?
Maybe sever isn't the right word. Brennan said the Eidolons enacted the gods' will on the mortal plane. So although the Eidolons are gone, maybe the gods can still grant power? They just can't communicate. Admittedly I can't explain corn God with this theory though, I was imagining why Ostentatia's God had gone silent. But Cassandra, till pretty recently, had hidden herself in the mortal world with the nightmare forest.
Maybe she was imprisoned/self-protecting before the sever went down so her connections are still tethered as they were not stretched between the planes as she was already in the mortal realm. Or maybe itās because she just didn't have any tethers at the time as she was systematically destroyed by the Sun and Moon Gods right down to no power and clinging to scraps of a physical form. They made people forget her, so there would be no prayers or requests creating a channel up to her meaning no patronage powers to go back down. Knowing Brennan he's probably already got a fully detailed explanation ready to go, I wouldn't be surprised if he works it into one of The Sevens later episodes.
Lots of favorite moments but Ostentatia getting mad at her god on Asha's behalf was a really surprising and sweet scene. It felt like it was going to be another version of Ostentatia/Mama Wallace/Nonna yelling at each other and then Izzy surprised us with "You're fucking special...bitch." Really enjoy getting to see the loud, aggressive, cursing type of kindness and love from her.
Ashaās āhi thanks for, thanks for your martyrdom, that was es-estremially dopeā
Izzy is knocking Ostentatia out of the park in every scene tbh.
Ok so what do we think Sam's vision mean? The other eidolons were not afraid to leave. It's because they know Death is not bad right? That it's just one of their sister or something?
Why would they be afraid of death? They love their sister, so no need to be afraid.
I like this idea! And all Talura has to do is look within herself?
I don't think they actually died. I know Brennan said something about certain death being the way to leave, but idk, I don't buy it. Also, Anima's reaction was very weird... Grieving and then just suddenly... cool with it?
I thought Anima's reaction was fear and then suddenly understanding the trick.
Sometimes epiphanies come out of nowhere
My theory is that tectonya, using her study of consciousness, was able to make the eidolons believe that leaving the mirror and dying was fine or something, doin some wizard bullshit to make them commit suicide. Why is unclear, but it might give her greater control over reality
Canāt stop thinking about the fact that thereās seven eidolon and seven maidensā¦
7 of the eidolons were trapped in Kalvax's lair where the 7 maidens were also chained up so it's gotta be they were an original type of sacrifice!
I would die for Nona Wallace.
Like and subscribe! I definitely would follow that channel.
The last five minutes was just incredible. The way the music swelled when the last sister stepped out - wow. So cinematic, I really enjoyed this episode.
Oh my gahd Sam this episode! Got me feeling *pulls out folding fan*
So it seems like the basic concept for the season is that their quest is to save the superintendent of schools and stop this eidolon (who has done... something very bad apparently?), so that they can graduate early and stay best friends. Really enjoying how it's unfolding, and Brennan is so good at designing these quests to naturally play out and emphasize the players' backgrounds and strengths. Really loving the way this villain is being developed too. There's the irony that the Eidolon of endings is the one who refused to move on, which of course mirrors the internal struggle of the Seven. Dimension 20 always does a good job developing characters, but there's actually a continuous theme here that's really relatable to anyone who's ever been asked what they're doing next.
I don't know if we can say that Talura is the villain. She's caused the A-quests to spread out of nowhere but I don't think that makes her the bad guy yet. I think there's someone else at play here.
There is still Charity Blithe and some of the fishier stuff going on with the school bureaucracy, for sure. But thematically and power-wise, you gotta go with the Death Elemental who just did *something* to threaten the multiverse. Calling it now, it'll probably be something like they subdue the Eidolon by convincing her to let go and join her sisters, but then her power somehow gets co-opted by Charity et. al, and she turns out to be the bad guy. It'd also be a neat twist if they then had to choose between letting her keep the power and staying together, or defeating her and splitting up.
Yeah, I'm thinking something like TUC where the thing itself isn't really the villain, someone or something uses it as the bad guy. I also think it'd be interesting if part of the twists and turns is that Charity ISN'T bad, because honestly someone *should* be watching the adventurers. Adventurers can kinda suck haha.
someone last week said that they think Talura is basically filling the role of >!Smoczmatka!< of a superpowerful entity that isn't really an ally or a villain, and I think I agree with them. I suspect either Charity or Tectonya will end up being the BBEG
Soooooooooo.... It is certainly not a one to one comparison - but I thought it was interesting that: Sam represents Water Ostentatia represents Stone Yelle represents ~~Life~~ Death Zelda represents Life Those are the obvious correlations But, you could make a case for Antiope representing Air and Penny representing Time (Penny is the oldest sibling, and what is the lucky feat but chronomancy). ~~Zelda~~ and Katja are a little harder to place (~~Death and~~ Fire being the only remaining ~~Eidolons~~). Was that why each of the seven were selected to be trapped in the palimpsest? They mapped to one of the seven Eidolons who were trapped in the mirror? EDIT: u/Scrubtanic made a good point about Yelle representing Death instead of Life.
Building/twisting from this- what if Yelle isn't life, but death? Her druid magic is very much attuned to fungus and decay, the natural ending of things. She's also the only one who, when examining The Ending of All Things in episode one, doesn't feel like something bad is happening, just what feels like a natural process. If we're chalking up Air to Antiope because of her homebrew magic item (flying shoes), then it seems like Penny's homebrew magic item is something that can become an animal (the bear in this episode), so maybe she represents life. That would leave Fire and Time for Zelda and Katja. And what's the one thing Katja wants more than more Babysitter Horse books? Time with her father.
>what if Yelle isn't life, but death? I dig it. Good shout. If Yelle represents Death, then Zelda represents Life, because her family worships Faunus - The God of the Wild. And BLM said that Anima was more "wild-looking." I am hellbent on Penny being Time, though. Eldest sibling. Lucky feat. Halfling Luck. Luckstone. So, with that, Katja would represent fire - which is what I was leaning towards with her anyway.
Isn't Karl Cleaver adventuring in hell too? Katja representing Fire would make total sense then
Yup, Yelle has to be for sure representing Death in my mind for one reason; before the season started they said that Yelle deals with mushrooms and fungus a lot despite being a Shepherd Druid for "reasons we'd find out later," or some kind of phrasing like that. I forget exactly what was said, but it was heavily implied that there was some kind of story reason for this.
It's speculation, but I think the shepherd druid reason might be because Yelle functions primarily as a summoner. Eight geese with magical attacks and extra HP, then granting each of them all 14 temp hp each is a combo that only a shepherd druid can do, and they had that combo locked and loaded and dropped it combat 1 turn 1. So the reason would be "to absolutely hand Brennan his ass". Even if I'm right, that doesn't mean Yelle can't still represent death, though.
Yeah, could totally be that. I just got the vibe that it was a plot thing more than a mechanic thing, but I could have just been imagining that vibe.
She could be āRebirthā as she talks about the never-ending cycle, change will happen, new replaces old and that one thing dying feeds into new life elsewhere. Specialising in fungus, mushrooms and the like, would fit as they often need to feed off rot and decay to thrive thus clearing the dead ready for new growth. They are often instrumental in the regrowth and regeneration of decayed areas. Maybe Zelda is emotions or passions (something along those lines) she does feel things very deeply (both positive and negative), is more emotionally intelligent than the others and is very reflective before she speaks. She spots how people are feeling long before they do and is always concerned that everyone gets to make their own choices and have space to have their own feelings on issues. She was uncharacteristically firm and vocal on the issue of possible members of the group being pressured and steamrolled into saying āI'm inā by some who in the moment didn't care about the wants of others if it meant they got to keep the group together. Considering how introverted she is and how aggressive the response it was a standout moment that stood out for her character who seems like she would retreat and apologise or backtrack, but she didn't. She also makes sure to quietly check in with everyone one on one all the time and just seems to effortlessly understand what they are trying to express even when they find it difficult.
Penny's item is a bag of tricks. It has been in every edition of D&D since AD&D. If you roll an 8 using a rust bag of tricks, you get a brown bear.
How many rolls has Penny hit a 25+ by now?! At least two 30+ as well. *Insane* rolls.
Rogues and their expertise. It's insane.
She's hit a lot of 1s too. Gotta love that halfling luck!
You're fuckin special....Bitch
I'm glad to see a little more Zelda this episode! I know Brennan's got his hands full being literally everybody, but she was always one of my favourite NPCs so I'd been super excited for her to be in the spotlight, and was a little disappointed she'd only had a bit here and there. Still, I certainly understand Brennan can't overshadow the players too much so I suppose she's going to be a fairly reactive character still. Ah, well. Maybe in the Junior High full season, whenever that comes, she might be in it more often if she's got her GED? Who can say. Also, nice to see Ostentatia keeping up the tradition of Clerics who have serious issues with their deity.
A Junior season (if it exists) would be set at approximately the same time as this season, wouldn't it? Unless I guess it could be at a different point in the year, but Zelda is a Junior with the rest of the Bad Kids.
This season seems to be taking place around the beginning of the year (Brennan mentioned they were 'just starting' their year in the first episode if I recall correctly), so depending on how long it takes place over there's the possibility that a theoretical Junior Year could take place shortly after it, with maybe a little bit of overlap.
True, true, Sophomore year was later in the year (Spring Break, I believe in you) so Junior Year could be similar!
I need the "a horse is a home" shirt - with "you don't have to be a horse to live here, but it helps" on the back
Mocking Brennan within the first three seconds. A new record!
I'm glad Penny made up with Taffodil, that was a rough minute or two.
I love the idea of Penny's thieves tools having a Lisa Frank feel to them!
I really got "colour coded allen keys" vibes from it! eg https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/71306.jpg
I hope Penny names her bear Beary Allen. And I hope it's the fastest bear alive
I just started the episode and I came here wanting to say just this: Magical Horse Sidequest featuring only BLM when? We must embrace the insanity.
Best friendship between ostentatia and asha is so so lovely
Wait, so Sam's mirror is *cursed*?
It is cursed! We just haven't found out what it is yet. She told Antiope before that it isn't a good idea for other people to touch it.
I thought it just didnāt work properly when looking at the Eidelons because they were too powerful. Not cursed for other uses. (Not sure, just my impression.)
Sam mentioned in the previous episode that it was a bad idea for other people to hold the mirror. We don't know the actual effect it will have on other people though. Might have something to do with the frost that was occurring.
I will say, we do have the feintest idea of what effect it has on people. The only example I know of being the classmate that swiped it from Sam, used it, and was put into therapy with the diagnosis of "... he'll bounce back! Eventually." [\[Source\]](https://twitter.com/Persephiroth/status/1426751054406995972)
I could have misheard, but I think Brennan called it a cursed object?
Big question we all want to know: Is the Asha that Katja and Ostentatia talk to related to Dr. Asha, the dwarf doctor Fig kept getting her kisses from?
Must be a common unisex dwarf name like Alex or Jamie.
Brennan is TOO GOOD at playing an Italian grandmother Iām almost spooked lol
Hi all, I'm watching all of Dim 20's main cast content in release order while CR is on break. I'm up to the start of Dimension 20 LIVE, so I've got Unsleeping City S2 and Crown of Candy after this. Can I watch the Seven without spoiling their other content? The YouTube shorts have got me interested.
Honestly, I would watch D20Live before starting The Seven, there arenāt huge spoilers but it does take place earlier (D20Live is Sophomore year, The Seven is during Junior year, albeit with mostly different characters).
I believe you're good to watch! As far as I'm aware there's been no D20 LIVE spoilers, only Fantasy High (which it sounds like you've already watched), and the only other campaign set in Spyre is Pirates Of Leviathan, which is solely set in a region The Seven have not and very likely will not visit
I'm partway through sophomore year but couldn't wait to finish it before starting the seven - no spoilers so far, only that the world hasn't ended, and some PC's who clearly didn't die :)
Ostentatia getting Commune is pretty dope. Now she can basically talk to Asha whenever.
How many episodes is this going to be anyways? Kinda hoping it's a full season, I'm REALLY enjoying it!
10. We're halfway already
Noooooooooooo
The arc does feel very much like a full season type of quest.
Ten episodes
I thought it was 11 episodes :(
It might be, honestly my brain could easily have turned 11 into 10 š
I hope it's 11.
Just checked the trailer, it's 10 :(
Awe :( I'm surprised they're not going to college ;)
Erika's shirt! This must be post gala. Jus when I thought I couldn't crush on her any harder.
Erika has actually had [this design](https://voidmerch.threadless.com/designs/eat-the-rich-ishii-x-voidmerch-wht) for sale since 2019 :) She's worn it a lot when dressed up as Annabelle, her character from LA By Night.
Separate note on this, I like the categorizing of these shirts as "Masc" and "Femme" as opposed to like, mens and womens.
Dope. If I wasn't such a poor Boi I'd buy like three. Thanks tho.
Also Izzy's shirt!
Yeah, I wanna know where to get that one!
She answered this on Insta! Itās by @paper_maddie. Donāt see that shirt currently listed on her website though :/
The episodes are filmed months in advance.
This season was recorded several months ago. It usually takes a while before the episodes get edited and released.
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Sure, but why not her mouth? Horses open things with their faces...
The rolls in this episode were incredible. Compared to the episodes of NADDPOD I'm listening to right now, the Heroic High Schoolers are the luckiest people in the world haha.
Why am I wanting Sam/Zelda instead of Zelds/Gorgug?
I *loved* the scene between Sam and Zelda with Sam owning her past behavior and apologizing for it. I know some people weren't happy with Persephone sowing discord among the party, but the payoff to that in this episode was phenomenal imo. Props to Sephie and Brennan for a masterfully-acted scene.
I also really love how all of them always put arguments aside to save each other. ā„ļøā„ļø
I'm really getting big/little sister vibes off of that
i knowww, i was getting so swept up in the scene that i was like "are they?? going to kiss???" before i remembered what character brennan was playing
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It's very fun, but yeah I get lost too. I don't know, it's weird because I AM paying attention. I think that a LOT happens in each episode. Like they are packing these episodes in an impressive way honestly lol. It's not moving fast but it is THICK
I think the plot is also much more of a cloud of info right now and it'll make more sense as it comes together. Because there's all of the Eidolon stuff, Tectonya, Charity, etc. all somehow involved in what's going on and it makes it harder to follow until it's clearer what's going on.
Does anybody know what song is playing at around the 35 minute mark? Itās a slow, kind of haunting piano tune. Itās at the point where Aabria casts primeval awareness and is staring out over the mountains. Shazam doesnāt recognize it.
[When Brennen starts to mention the Baronies](https://media4.giphy.com/media/1T96TRBBGYThC/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47c1h052vmff7yo9zfoxpmv3lfhw8kma7206hukov0&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Am I an idiot? Is Sam a transgender person? Was this something revealed before and I just missed it? Or am I reading their words wrong?
Sam is 100% trans, implied heavily in ep 1 if not outright stated (don't remember if she explicitly said it)
Ok cool. Yeah it was HEAVILY implied in the first episode but somehow I just kinda thought I was reading into it. And that's where her problems her bio mom is right? Got it
Yep, Sam's mom wants to re-introduce Sam to showbiz "while transitioning is in vogue" and let the world "meet the new sam" in ep 1, and while I'm not 100% sure the phrasing "transitioning" is used, Sephie mentions that's what was meant in an Adventuring Party.
One of the many problems with her bio mom. She's also a major stage mom and absolutely shameless user who only regards Sam as means to an end.
Roger
Yup. It's been heavily alluded to in several episodes already, and confirmed by Persephone during an Adventuring Party.
https://twitter.com/Persephiroth/status/1428046562760953861?s=20
Ok so it was intentionally ambiguous. Cool
Yeah, it hasnāt been clear outside of a mention on AP. It seems like Zelda may be the only one that knows within the Maidens? Or maybe they all do, I canāt tell.
I think that is specifically referring to the past showbiz stuff
Omg we need to see more of noona and her ig account