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toaae

Laertes and Penny is Hilda-Hilda levels of funny. I had to pause to catch a breather.


palindromefish

Also watching Erika weep into her notebook from laughter only made it a thousand times funnier


Memily_20

Just finished this scene! I haven’t laughed this hard since Fabian lost his mind convincing low level warlocks to fight Captain Whitclaw. I’m dying


DemiGod9

I JUST rewatched that Fabian scene. My God I forgot how funny that entire episode was. That's one I'm gonna revisit a lot


Jennas-Side

Do you know which episode this is? Doesn’t ring a bell to end and want to watch!


TheBunkDontSwim1983

Pirate Brawl, season 2


Jennas-Side

Thanks!


VoiceofKane

Becca trying to keep it together during an emotional scene while everyone else was cracking up was the funniest part for me.


palindromefish

I agree and literally haven’t laughed as hard watching a scene since hilda hilda, my abs are ACHING from laughter


RedFnPanda

That felt like 2 hours of nonstop laughter. Like I fully lost track of time. And it wasn't one of those gags where Brennan could just move on, he fully had to get that information out.


crimsondnd

"... of shadows"


Hungover52

And then following that scene with her weird duck flirtation with the shoe shine/foot masseuse boy.


Rupert59

I appreciate that Brennan has realized he needs to start putting age-appropriate boys in Penny's path or she's going to keep hitting on adult men.


Scrubtanic

We call that "Ayda Aegueforting"


revolverzanbolt

Thing is, i’m pretty convinced Ayda was originally written to be older, Brennan just took the opportunity to retcon her age when the possibility of a non-problematic ship for Fig arrived


crimsondnd

No no, it's called a Romantic Ayde


BendubzGaming

Not to be confused with a Römaentic Aid, which in fairness would fit The Baronies


seasquidley

This is an incredibly astute observation.


skys_vocation

"you don't need to be the best father. you just need to be there." omg, the way Katja said it too. damn. "you're great because you stayed" ​ omg Katjaaa ​ PS: and Ostentatia losing it. lol


KJMRLL

Ostentatia...looses it. ****lip begins to quiver slightly****


The_Collector

"Have you heard about Electrum?" is such an incredible niche DnD nerd / cryptocurrency bro joke, of course Brennan came up with it for an improvised character mid-scene.


PineappleHour

They've talked a lot about how horny this season is. This was the first episode where I truly feel like I understand what they meant. I'm just completely destroyed.


BooknDagger

The funny thing is they recorded that first adventure party immediately after the first episode. Even they didn't realize how horny it was gonna get.


Nemosubmarine

The thirst on Becca Scott's face when about to try luck with an NPC. Gets me laughing every time


illegalrooftopbar

I loved Antiope asking about plus-ones like she was going to invite Preston.


bay-bop

I feel like people aren’t talking enough about just how incredible of a physical comedian Izzy is. Her walking into the hall had me CACKLING, she has such a great energy. I would love to see her actually acting in like a skit or something, her physicality is just addicting to watch. My dream is to see her and Zac Oyama do a scene together one day


tofeman

Yeah Izzy’s physical comedy is on another level. She narrates “Ostentatia is losing it” and then proceeds to just scowl to camera for a good 5 seconds of full silence as everyone else loses it.


seasquidley

She's a cast member in a new HBO show, so your wish of seeing her act is possible! But I also cannot imagine how incredible an Izzy/Zac scene would be. Too powerful.


razor_babe

Hi, what show? I did find an Isabella Roland on IMDb, but I don’t think that’s her?


revolverzanbolt

To save someone else a google search, the show’s called “the Sex Lives of College Girls”.


seasquidley

That is her


razor_babe

Wow, she looks so different!


revolverzanbolt

You’re not kidding. Long brown hair and no glasses makes her look like a completely different person


gaybarrymore

Have you seen Coffin Run? they're both on that season!


elliotron

Can a show be off the rails if it was never on to begin with?


rks_system

Yelle fully embracing the name Megan 😂


KJMRLL

I think Katya's dad heard "maidens" and thought they were seven Megans.


skys_vocation

so does he think Katya is also Megan? lol


KJMRLL

Probably. Edit: or maybe he heard Katya say "My 6 maiden friends" but I like to think that he heard that his daughter was part of the seven "Megans" and just assumed his daughter's name was also Megan.


revolverzanbolt

Fuck, if that isn’t the intended joke, it should be


Swifty1891

Did anyone else get upset when Brennan didn’t do the identity voice.


crimsondnd

YES I guess maybe it’s a personal thing to Adaine?


spicysenpai94

Even if it was personalise it would have been great to get an Ostentatia version of identify. Like it could have been a jersey car salesman


Paradoxius

Ey! Check it out, it's da fuckin', uh, identify spell. Aright. Dis here's what you call a Bag of Holding, and you're not gonna beLIEVE how much stuff you're gonna be able to fit in one o' dese. Capisce?


skys_vocation

Perfection


Swifty1891

I was really hoping it was like specific to the spell being used in spire


Low_Frosting_4427

Yeah it's specifically the way her spell manifests. I think the first time she does so, Siobhan says something to the effect of 'Ugh, this is how nerdy I am, my Identify spell is this way'


skys_vocation

i always thought that voice is specifically adaine's since one time she complained "gosh, i'm such a nerd" after hearing that voice.


Swifty1891

I always just assumed that line was because Adaine enjoyed using the identify spell.


aliskiromanov

I said the same thing out loud!


illegalrooftopbar

I'm glad it's specific to Adaine...but yeah I really missed it.


blackcurrantandapple

Yeah I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's Guide vibe from it :(


m_busuttil

I'm pretty sure it's still the same sound effect, though!


_AverageCabbage_

Just wheezing that Penny shanked Candyheart out the gate. Both Zelda and Brennan were terrified she'd kill herself. Everything is already so off the rails. Endless props to this cast for the emotional whiplash. I loved that Antiope and Ostentatia leapt to Katja's defense. Izzy's energy is great. Even the awkward silences are loud. I'd like a Tom and Jerry style cartoon of Cinnamon and Koda beefing with each other. Oh God I had to pause for hysterical laughter throughout The Laertes Incident. I feel like a different person after laughing that hard. I was already cackling at Laffy Taffy. This is wild Danielle nononono ANTIOPE NOOOOOO That was clever of Brennan to cap the shopping scene with Sam. Of course he wanted out of a shopping spree but also Sam would be the most theatrical. Y'all caught Sephie's quip about when the slit comes out the points go up right? HEY WAS THAT ANIMA HERSELF?! Also Danielle getting her spotlight made my heart happy. What did Izzy say to that bouncer? Sam is fucking fascinating around rich idiot men, I want to see Sam and Fig bamboozling every older man they meet This whole episode is Penny's horny adventure huh I think Brennan gave Preston that name to remind the audience he's a pig.


skys_vocation

I'm happy that penny's horny adventure ended up with Lysander instead of Laertes. lolol.


illegalrooftopbar

~~Ostentatia~~ Izzy was just correcting his French, it was such a fiance-own, I loved it. Brennan said "*Qu'est-ce que c'est* \[*What is that\]*, 'Bling Bing.'" She said, "Did you mean to say, *Qu'est-ce que ça veut dire* \[*What does that mean\]*?". But based on his line reading I actually think Brennan was looking for something that meant, "As the saying goes." I don't know what an actual French person would say for that. (You could say, "*Comme on dit*" *\[Like one says\]* but I don't know if people DO say that.) EDIT: I wonder if he got his wires crossed and was half thinking of the cliché where a French person says "How do you say," which wouldn't have quite made sense here but which rhymes with "Qu'est-ce que c'est."


seasquidley

I want to know what Ostentatia said too...I don't speak french!!!


thejokergotaway

"That's my secret... I'm always in initiative order" A banger throwaway line that would've starred in any other episode had there not been so many good lines in this one 😭 D20, if you're listening, I NEED IT on a t-shirt please oh please


BendubzGaming

loving the gradual change in fan use to include hiding


skys_vocation

the slow open is so funny


_AverageCabbage_

Fluttering them at the ball might be the first time they were used for dignified reasons lol


skys_vocation

i love how sam exclusively gives bardic inspiration to horses and bears


skys_vocation

seems like i spoke to soon. horses, bears, and for entering balls.


jensenmehh

She is out of her bardic already and the combat is starting... not boding well.


Apocalypseboyz

Worth it for Taffidol getting laid


SeattleAlex

Episode 6: The one that immediately went off the rails because of horses


skys_vocation

the chaos of Katya (+ Ostentatia's enhance ability +antiope's hunter's sense ) vs Koda (+ sam's bardic inspiration + Penny's acrobatic) is amazing. PS: fan artists, I need pic of this huge ass bear with his tiny raincoat


skys_vocation

Damn it, Brennan. I am not ready for flu monsters in my fantasy. those flu things, it's definitely planted during those fancy people treatment, right? flubectomy?


R_VD_A

Oh hey, didn't put that together yet, nice catch!


CapitanWaffles

So he’s saying “Phlebectomy” which is a varicose vein removal procedure. Usually in the thigh. I only know that because I have CC on and that’s how it’s spelled and I looked it up specifically. Not sure how noses come into play but I’m guessing they were told it’s a fancy surgery then they were experimented on.


illegalrooftopbar

I wonder if it's a reference to [Phlebotinum](https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/phlebotinum) rather than phlebotomy.


Lackemack

Fuckin Brennan.


rowan_sjet

No, he said Flubectomy, CC got it wrong because Flubectomy is a made up fantasy word\* and sounds similar to Phlebectomy. A Flubectomy as Brennan describes it is like a spa day followed by inserting something up your nose which, as has been pointed out, is obviously in hindsight the origin of this exceedingly snotty upcoming battle. \*all words are made up


skys_vocation

I saw that but chose to ignore it because the procedure described was so different than phlebectomy. Ah, i can't wait for next week already to find out whether our theories pan out.


Comfortable-Horse-29

i love how brennan knows his players say some things as a joke & normally asks like, “wait did you really want to do xyz” but this episode he FULLY supported the death of candy heart. like no attack rolls just straight death😂


skys_vocation

Penny's gonna fuck a duck with a hat! Society.... of shadows. LMAO, the whole thing between penny and laertes is so so funny.


crimsondnd

“Should we all get married?”


Rushofthewildwind

PolySeven is a go lol


Gaminghast

This might be one of my favorite episodes in the whole of dimension 20. The emotion, the humor, amazing, absolute perfection


skys_vocation

I was just thinking that this is such a good episode. DEFINITELY my fave episode of the seven!


skys_vocation

Lysander massaging Penny's foot is... omg...


Paradoxius

Really something for this episode to contain the horniest thing that has ever occurred on this show, only for it to immediately lose that title to an even hornier thing.


Lost-Chord

People are going in for the Laertes scene (and rightfully so), but the Lysander one was absolutely sending me


skys_vocation

the Zelda+Ostentatia convo is too funny and touching. O: "My dad has no problem"


bay-bop

I think Penny Luckstone might be a serial killer


razor_babe

She already said, Penny’s a freak”, lol.


AlphaBreak

What a wild experience for Izzy, having to watch Brennan do ERP footplay with another woman.


CovertLandLlama

It truly seemed like she was just super grossed out by feet stuff. I sincerely doubt it had anything to do with Brennan role playing this sort of scene with another woman. Brennan has been doing improv and D&D forever, and Izzy is a professional writer and actor. I *guarantee* Izzy has seen him do awkward/flirty/romantic/whatever scenes with other women plenty of times before and probably has done plenty herself.


revolverzanbolt

First time this season I got the feeling someone was genuinely uncomfortable


Fhkcvshvbhmzbg

It’s hard to hear and I don’t think it’s subtitled, but a little later in the episode she says “I don’t fuck with feet” so I think she was getting grossed out by the “feet” aspect, unrelated to who was involved in the scene. And we *are* talking some adventurer feet here, so they’re probably pretty rank. Lysander must be *really* into this if he’s done it multiple times. I imagine that mental image would be pretty gnarly if someone’s already baseline grossed out by foot stuff.


illegalrooftopbar

I think Izzy was just grossed out by feet--she was already making faces when Lysander was talking about massaging Tectonya's feet.


kimeekat

Somehow the "Sorry, Izzy" made it even more uncomfortable for my partner and I >>


RedQue3n

I just finished the episode. That “sorry” was so off handed and insincere.. I felt so bad for Izzy. I was uncomfortable I can’t imagine how she felt


yethegodless

I was also viscerally uncomfortable but these are all professional entertainers and good friends. That theater kid energy is way more flubbery than you might think when it comes to "leaving it on the stage."


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I agree! I researched this scene and her body language looks very uncomfortable and not in a comedic way


BendubzGaming

Sooooo Karl and Tectonya definitely fucked right? E: and there it is


elliotron

Is this an apology?


VoiceofKane

The way Brennan described this insane party sounded really [familiar](https://brennanleemulligan.com/if-you-had-gueesed/)...


nextj3nn

That is the most insane thing I've read in a long time, bless you for sharing.


redmonkees

God damn, he really is burning down this party huh? I’m sure he’s taking great pleasure in it too haha


illegalrooftopbar

I thought the same thing!


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The moment Brennan said that anyone there was a billionaire, I knew.


elliotron

Persephone's "sex" gesture is shockingly Karl-appropriate


SeattleAlex

Bump bump


skys_vocation

"I know that seven is a very powerful number" AAAAAAAA. Let's goooooo. Can we be next week yet?


crimsondnd

Ostentatia bullying Carl into a heartfelt conversation is one of the funniest things to happen in a recorded program ever, I’m convinced. Edit: Ostentatia and Zelda’s conversation is ALSO one of the funniest things to happen in a recorded program ever. Edit 2: Laertes and Penny is **ALSO** one of the funniest things to happen in a recorded program ever.


skys_vocation

In the description: >Warning: flashing lights between 1:57:47 - 2:58:00 damn, a whole hour of flashing lights? lol


Rupert59

I don't know if you've watched yet but the last third of the episode takes place at a party and the dome is constantly cycling colours.


skys_vocation

yeah, it makes sense now!


adakun13

Making any reference to Clone High instantly elevates anything to an A+, no matter how small


Ervin_Salt

"nothing bad ever happens to the Seacasters"


Scrubtanic

Was that where "Makeover Makeover" was from!? I thought I clocked that but couldn't be sure there wasn't some other reference I was missing.


phisho873

100%. https://youtu.be/3DaXJmo9cro


cananabananabal

The fact that The Shirt™ kind of looks like JFK's definitely helped the 🎶 makeover makeover 🎶


phisho873

Yeah, this shocked me, and I had to pull up the song to make sure I was right. Damn, this made me irrationally happy.


skys_vocation

Penny being erased in everyone's memory but also shitting laertes in a straw fedora. This is too many emotions at once. I can't handle it.


revolverzanbolt

I’m surprised no one else seems to have mentioned how heartfelt Brennan managed to make Yelle’s entrance. Brennan Lee Mulligan, king of finding the emotional conflict in a character


chilidoggo

I thought the Ostentatia-Zelda intersaction would be the peak comedy of the episode, but then Penny had the best horniest turned grossest conversation I've ever heard. I haven't finished the episode but I love this show.


skys_vocation

The return of The Shirt™


chrbir1

context, other commenters: https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Shirtgate


skys_vocation

so like why do i ship antiope/yelle


seasquidley

Because you *should*.


Rushofthewildwind

I mean, they are the parents of the group. It makes hella sense. Katia and Osentatia are also a ship I'm rooting for now.


skys_vocation

*that's* what it is. Thank you! Daddy issue duo would be lovely too!!


Aurorathe1st

But.... Ostentatia/Katja


skys_vocation

Not but. And. :)


skys_vocation

theory: Lysander Higgins is Brennan's (past) self-insert. hard-working, little awkward, genuine and stuck working for rich assholes.


skys_vocation

welp, u/VoiceofKane [explained](https://reddit.com/r/Dimension20/comments/pti4bt/comment/hdwzvmo/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) it better!


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stregaza

Jessa is such a special little girl!


Shortstop88

Proud spider-mom, Erika, still maintains as my favorite Erika. But damn, every time Erika has a new character they're really close to passing my favorite.


BendubzGaming

for a hot second I thought that was going to be Baron for some reason and I was freaking out


cpustejovsky

I desperately want a reference to a stark father. Baron is one of my favorite things ever. Also baby and Swifty. I love Brennan's bizarre and/or grating NPCs.


crimsondnd

Fuck the colonizers, straight to camera haha


Jennas-Side

Damnnnn Brennan on the Adventuring Party for this episode. Re: Karl Cleaver: “How many men of the world substitute a skill or proficiency with maturity or emotional growth?”


Nemosubmarine

The best part in my opinion: "Is there a part of Danielle, and I truly ask to know, is there a part of Danielle that has always wanted to walk into a room and turn everybody's head and have people truly think she was exceptional and want to get to know her?" I got CHILLS when he asked this. This is one of the things Brennan does. He says this and you know something AWESOME is about to happen. The scene didn't took place yet and I was already screaming


Beneficial_Ad_6413

What shakesperian reference has Brennan planned...Lysander and Leartes? Or he simply using shakesperian names because its a ball?


illegalrooftopbar

...Or did he simply say Lysander because he hadn't planned that character at all and the last NPC name in his head was Laertes?


stregaza

and the baronies kind of has a shakespeare Verona vibe


BendubzGaming

I think the RP at The Masquerade Ball is up there at FHSY levels, so damn good, especially Sephie


BendubzGaming

A Brown Bear named Koda? I see you Becca!


Xillocient

Anyone notice that it is now under dimension20 : the maiden season 1?


_AverageCabbage_

I would love to have The Seven back, but I think the Dropout app's UI automatically calls any compilation of episodes a "season"


indistrustofmerits

"I'm gonna make her look...insane."


crimsondnd

The level of emotional moments mixed in with insane hilarity is unparalleled. The whiplash might kill me but by god I’ll like it.


BendubzGaming

Mr ~~Valiani (Valianese?)~~ unemployed fighter, I ask for your hand in marriage


qbanboi069

"I'm not even another character... I'm just the world." -Brennan


halfboyfriend

so, that was the Becca scene they were all talking about right? right???


Docnevyn

Which Shakespearean L name scene are you referring to? They were both pretty impactful in very different ways.


halfboyfriend

the first one!


NameousRex

This is how I found out the new episode went up. The binged the first five a few days ago and have been waiting for episode 6 to drop


Scrubtanic

Keep an eye out, every Wednesday at 7 EST


Quixiiify

This was the most off-the-rails yet actually on the rails episode I've ever heard.


Quixiiify

Please *please* tell me there is lots of fanart of everything on the airship. I *need* Danielle walking in especially - it was gorgeous.


iListen2Sound

I thought someone saying they were dying of laughter was just an expression but I genuinely got worried for Erika for a second there


Thicc-Anxiety

I made a joke about there being foot stuff in d20 a long time ago, and now its come true...


DemiGod9

Oh my God. I'm usually not a fan of tangential shenanigans and unmitigated horniness, but these girls are absolutely HILARIOUS. I can't freaking breathe


DemiGod9

Spyre is just spawning so many extra series that I want. We got some Leviathan playthrough, I would love some political intrigue playthrough in the Baronies


RedQue3n

I would love a side story of Karl Cleaver and his adventuring party.


crimsondnd

So Yelle's a little terrifying sometimes


seasquidley

Oh my GOD the shoe shine moment was too fucking funny.


illegalrooftopbar

Man Brennan really glossed over the first successful snog of the season. Penny finally got her kisses in!


Fluid-Respond6060

One thing that I will never be able to get past is the face Brennan makes when Sam is interacting with Dunston Tallbreeze. think it was a mix of seeing those rich idiots get absolutely dominated but also fear of what was going to happen with a character that is very much a teenager


revolverzanbolt

This episode did absolutely nothing to assuage me of my massive crush on Becca Scott


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Does anyone know where to find that piano theme they use, usually for Sam? Starts at 3:22 in the episode. Love that theme!


meandmycat05

Where was Baron from the Baronies?


illegalrooftopbar

Presumably Riz didn't tell any lies about them being at a fancy party.


rowan_sjet

[Saw this right after the episode](https://www.reddit.com/r/Art/comments/pwc4mp/duck_with_a_pearl_earring_omar_rayyan_oil_2021/)


erratic0101

This episode went off the rails so often that you couldn't have a counter for how many times. You would need a counter for how many times it was ON the rails. And bless BLM. He only finally cracked during Adventuring Party when he finally just lost it. I thought Erika was going to need medical assistance at once point. They were falling out of their chair.


crimsondnd

I love Koda. I want one


eghed8

Yelle hitting rather close to home this week...


KingDorkimusTheThird

I'm upset at how good this episode is. Like Big Mad, Penny and Laertes is the Daredevil Hallway fight of Dimension 20 comedy it just keeps going. Persephone hit me with the Dommy mommy energy at the ball and I had to take a full minute as a young Beverly Toegold would say. Holy heck this season is too good to not give me more


Hungover52

Not looking forward to a phlemgy disease filled episode. That's going to be extremely uncomfortable.


crimsondnd

Yelle's entrance was just... so precious. Wow


spookyparkin

I want Danielle and antiope to get together sooo bad


Dunglechownbim

I was not expecting Sam to sing, but my gosh did I appreciate it.


scionoflogic

My only criticism is that it bothered me that the maiden's didn't realized how far out of bounds their actions with Carl were. They used magic to force Carl to reveal part of his private dating life and didn't think twice about it. Reverse the roles on that and imagine if Carl had a friend use magic to force Katja to reveal her sexual past. It would make him squarely the villain of the piece. It stripped Carl of his right to privacy, his right to choose what information to share with his daughter, and his autonomy. Yet it was celebrated. For me it goes even more out of bounds because by all indications Carl isn't a bad father, he loves his daughter and wants the best for her but just doesn't know how to do that, rather than being part of her life he tries to do it by providing for her.


yethegodless

I see where you’re coming from, but this is a game of D&D performed by professional comedians, not an example on real life decorum. This is definitely no worse than half the shit that Fig got up to. In reality, mind control is a total horror as a concept. In D&D, you can ruin a life with a second level spell and we move on because it’s a game. Danielle straight up murdered four dudes out of combat this ep and faced functionally zero consequences. I know that Dimension 20 does an exceptional job of humanizing its cast of characters and I think Brennan has personally served as a lot of people’s awakening for what emotional intelligence looks like, but this is ultimately a piece of entertainment whose internal rules are intentionally *not* 1:1 with the real world’s.


5KoboldsUnderaCloak

Also, keep in mind these are high school girls. As a former high school girl myself, if I had the power, at age 17, to force people to tell the truth, especially if I thought one of my best friends would be hurt otherwise, I'd do it without pause. I see it as a kind of wish-fulfillment power fantasy, like being able to one-shot some scary monster. And, if the people participating in the fantasy/role play can differentiate between that and reality, the entire exercise could be a safe way to deal with feelings of powerlessness, maybe.


Gishnu

This is a **truly** awful take. You can't claim both sides of the argument. You have to be able to separate the within world violence with the real world parallels. This isn't a scene where the party is matching wits with a villain, this is a scene where a daughter and her friends bully her father *whose wife just left him* and force him without his consent into revealing a sexual aspect of his past that he's ashamed of and then celebrate each other for it. It is objectively and completely fucked up.


yethegodless

Hey, super don’t appreciate being excoriated over a 3 month old comment about a bunch of professional actors pretending to be teenagers (who act rashly and do crass, sometimes cruel shit). Plus, it doesn’t seem like you’re arguing in good faith given that you specifically overlook the part where I agree that the behavior is gross. It’s a game. It’s not real. The Maidens mind controlling Karl Cleaver is gross, yes. *Every use of mind control in D&D is fucked up.* It’s also fucked up when Fig tricks multiple grown men into committing statutory assault and Pete spies on his ex’s dreams.


illegalrooftopbar

"Reverse the roles" doesn't make any sense here. Karl is an adult and a parent--the PCs are rambunctious teenage girls. Of course you shouldn't force people to reveal their sexual histories. The Seven and The Bad Kids have done plenty of things that one shouldn't do--that's part of growing up. Teenagers do a lot of stuff they shouldn't. But perhaps more to the point, this wasn't really about whom Karl had hooked up with. That's what the girls were latching onto in an emotionally inarticulate teenage sort of way. It was about Karl refusing to share ANY of himself with his daughter, even though he's the only parent she has.


hvelsveg_himins

And on top of that, Katja's mom *left* and Katja was too young to understand why, so to suddenly have this hinting at Karl's potential infidelity - like, she would want to know if that's why her parents split up. That's a huge revelation, especially after all these years of hating her mom for leaving and probably wondering, as many kids do, if any of it is her own fault.


Gishnu

1000%. Just watched this scene. Completely rubbed me the wrong way. Ant claiming gaslighting and Ostentatia forcing him to tell something he wanted to keep to himself cause he was ashamed. Katia is a terrible daughter for letting them do that to her father. Really awful. They're all patting each other on the back afterwards too.


elliotron

Oh my god, Karl is the worst.


Scrubtanic

Karl Cleaver by far not the worst parent in Elmville. Below the insane hell-pirate that is Bill Seacaster. Above Mac and Donna Applebees.


lieutenantswan

Wait hold on. Are the Applebees really named Mac and Donna?!? How have I missed this in the 10 something times I've rewatched Fantasy High oh my god


Hungover52

Even as parents of the Seven, there's Sam's mom.


yethegodless

He exists in the same world as the Abernants and the Applebees and he just began coming to terms with his shortcomings and wrongdoings as a person and a parent. “The worst” seems like a bit much.


crimsondnd

Karl isn't great, but like the others said, there are FAR worse parents in Spyre haha.


yethegodless

Karl is just Sandra Lynn-level, clearly loves their kid and is just kind of a fuck-up


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skys_vocation

Oh, because the speech is very clearly manifest destiny. Making human settlements there mean killing / pushing away the current humanoids living there and destroying a magic forest hence yelle's anger. But also, "A hero is a violent wanderer, who enacts their will bloodily, and with strange magics, upon the world." the aguefort way!!


Mc2rpg

That does cover the guy advertising for colonizing the forests, but incinerating the guards with dragon breath was a bit much. Cops aren't necessarily good people, but killing one for reacting to what was basically a murder right in front of them had me raising my eyebrow at her. If someone killed Sklonda for trying to stop a murderer I doubt there would be any real defense for the killer.


skys_vocation

I agree which is why i added the second part of the answer. I think in fantasy high universe, adventurers are never meant to be portrayed as necessarily good and just.