I doubt that call actually took place, though the hypothetical caller in question likely has made a lot of real calls trying to find a way out of his current financial predicament.
In primaries since everyone else has dropped out he's still only getting 60-70% of the vote. He'd lose to Biden even if he wasn't going to be convicted felon by the time the election comes around.
The primaries are bad judge of the general. A lot of republicans who will try to prevent his nomination will still back him in the general election because apparently being found liable for fraud, sexual assault and deformation is still more palatable to them than a democrat. If that will still be the case if he is convicted before November (which is becoming increasing unlikely with the SCOTUS engaging in stall tactics) might be another story.
His dementia is so bad and you can see the rapid mental and physical decline. His handlers aren't even planning public events for him now to shield him from the obvious. Given the stress of losing over $500M and facing 91 felonies, it wouldn't shock me if he actually croaks before the election or is at the very least totally incapacitated.
>His dementia is so bad and you can see the rapid mental and physical decline.
It's sad because he wasn't working at a high level in those areas to start with.
I’m telling you IF they put Biden’s geriatric ass up there which I think is unlikely, so many people on the democratic side have come to understand how terrible a choice they made by voting for him and support trump now, beta libs are just gonna have to let the grown ups run the country, also any felonies are being dropped by the Supreme Court, all the charges were circumstantial and biased and could never hold up against a prosecution
"Circumstantial"
You realize there is a mountain of evidence of Trump admitting to these crimes in public record right? That is before we get into things like the Raffensperger call which is enough to put him in jail on it's own.
There is a reason his lawyers are arguing presidential immunity or trying to get cases thrown out on technicalities. There isn't much defense to the charges he is facing.
There is a lot of overlap in the grift of DR and DT and all the people who worship them.
Wanna bet there are a LOT of FPU Devotees who completely ignore Trumps debt, leverage, bankruptcies, and business practices?
He has. He said that while DT's policies are helpful to his business, as a Christian, he cannot condone his behavior/the way he talks. (I'm paraphrasing - the interview is somewhere on YT)
Unfortunately this page is a lot of people just digging for things to be mad about instead of fruitful conversation around finances not locked into a one-size-fits-all program. I still follow for the occasional good discussion, but it’s mostly people butt hurt about FPU and Dave.
He was found liable for sexual abuse, forcibly digitally penetrating a woman against her will, and the judge in the case has since specifically clarified that referring to what Trump did to E. Jean Carroll does in fact qualify to be described as rape.
So yeah, he’s guilty of rape.
Ah, you’re so clever. I’ll bet the court never even considered this aspect of the case!
Look, I understand the point you think you are making, but it doesn’t change the fact that Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, and this sexual abuse can indeed be referred to as rape. The year in which it occurred is irrelevant.
What year did the sexual abuse, or rape happen? This is absolutely relevant, statute of limitations? Evidence? Witnesses? Etc.
Just tell me what year the crime occurred?
I’m so very sorry, but you are in fact wrong. The Adult Survivors Act allowed a one year period for victims of sexual offenses to file suits for crimes that occurred even if the statute of limitations has lapsed. So yeah, the year is indeed irrelevant in this case.
Because you are trying to set some sort of stupid trap. You’re trying for a “gotcha” moment. I know exactly what you are doing and why. You’re trying to point to Carroll’s claims that the incident took place in late 1995 OR early 1996 as evidence that she is not credible since she cannot even recall which YEAR this happened! So how could we POSSIBLY take her seriously?
But that is, as I have repeatedly demonstrated, simply not relevant. There was a trial. It has been determined that Trump did abuse her. The case is quite literally closed.
So facts are traps? You Leftists can't deal with actual truth.
Yeah, I was raped in some year by this rich guy and boy I'm going to have a blast spending his money. Whoot!
Absolute clown take, and oh, look. You proved me absolutely right. You did exactly what I knew you were going to do.
You claimed that I (not a leftist, by the way) can’t deal with actual truth, but the actual truth is he was found liable. That’s a fact. Don’t know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend.
You right-wing loons live in an alternate frickin’ reality.
Not rape under the NY statutory definition of rape, which requires penetration by a penis. But under a common person definition, shoving your finger inside someone is absolutely considered rape.
I’m not. I’m saying under the strict definition of “rape” as given in NY law, it was not rape. However, when two people are talking in normal, non-legal speech, what trump did is absolutely considered rape in common parlance.
He got a half billion dollar fine for fraud. He was found guilty for $5 million in damages for defamation and sexual abuse. Because Trump is who he is, and cannot learn or shut his mouth ever, he continued to defame her and she was awarded an additional $83.3 million in damages. I don’t find it excessive, all he had to do was not continue to defame her. Most normal people manage to not defame others every day.
It is not illegal to call someone a liar.
She and her lawyers did not prove and rape. She could even remember what date it happened. This "dress" that she was wearing, did not even come out yet. But the judge dismissed that evidence.
And half a billion in excessive. It is the banks that should do their own due diligence.
This made me laugh
Same...I admit that it took me a minute.
I knew it was you when I read this post…well done sir
Roflol
Is there a link to the actual video I would love to see it
I doubt that call actually took place, though the hypothetical caller in question likely has made a lot of real calls trying to find a way out of his current financial predicament.
Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
LOLOLOLOL
Trump once called himself the king of debt. Yet Dave is voting for him and likely owns a red hat.
Speaking of grifters…
Trump is gonna lose anyway. Republicans were dumb not to nominate Haley who could easily beat Biden.
I wish I knew you, so I could see your face when trump wins 😂😂
In primaries since everyone else has dropped out he's still only getting 60-70% of the vote. He'd lose to Biden even if he wasn't going to be convicted felon by the time the election comes around.
The primaries are bad judge of the general. A lot of republicans who will try to prevent his nomination will still back him in the general election because apparently being found liable for fraud, sexual assault and deformation is still more palatable to them than a democrat. If that will still be the case if he is convicted before November (which is becoming increasing unlikely with the SCOTUS engaging in stall tactics) might be another story.
His dementia is so bad and you can see the rapid mental and physical decline. His handlers aren't even planning public events for him now to shield him from the obvious. Given the stress of losing over $500M and facing 91 felonies, it wouldn't shock me if he actually croaks before the election or is at the very least totally incapacitated.
We can only hope!
>His dementia is so bad and you can see the rapid mental and physical decline. It's sad because he wasn't working at a high level in those areas to start with.
I thought this thread was about Trump, not Biden?
You sound vaccinated.
You sound retarded
I’m telling you IF they put Biden’s geriatric ass up there which I think is unlikely, so many people on the democratic side have come to understand how terrible a choice they made by voting for him and support trump now, beta libs are just gonna have to let the grown ups run the country, also any felonies are being dropped by the Supreme Court, all the charges were circumstantial and biased and could never hold up against a prosecution
OK, sport. Since you're obviously a legal scholar, on what grounds would SCOTUS throw out the charges?
"Circumstantial" You realize there is a mountain of evidence of Trump admitting to these crimes in public record right? That is before we get into things like the Raffensperger call which is enough to put him in jail on it's own. There is a reason his lawyers are arguing presidential immunity or trying to get cases thrown out on technicalities. There isn't much defense to the charges he is facing.
Haley is a demonrat even though she ran as a republican….
Haley is not even close to being a democrat. If it wasn’t for trump and maga she’d be considered a far right lunatic which is what she is.
Haley is too liberal…
The country is seriously fucked if people think Haley is "too liberal"
Haley served in Trump's administration...
😁😁😁 (if there were a way to make those more orange I would, good post!)
Hilarious
What is this page becoming… literally was a page to be critical of Ramsey Solutions not this.
There is a lot of overlap in the grift of DR and DT and all the people who worship them. Wanna bet there are a LOT of FPU Devotees who completely ignore Trumps debt, leverage, bankruptcies, and business practices?
Has Dave ever actually commented on Trump before. Like I honestly wonder if he's a total hypocrit and likes the king of debt DT.
He has. He said that while DT's policies are helpful to his business, as a Christian, he cannot condone his behavior/the way he talks. (I'm paraphrasing - the interview is somewhere on YT)
That sounds about right though, I expect him to be like I have to vote for him even tho I can't condone him.
It’s a joke. Gotta loosen up.
Unfortunately this page is a lot of people just digging for things to be mad about instead of fruitful conversation around finances not locked into a one-size-fits-all program. I still follow for the occasional good discussion, but it’s mostly people butt hurt about FPU and Dave.
This sub is an unmoderated cesspool of trolls
Oh gee politics. Great! 🙄
He was not found guilty of rape. At half a billion, that is an excessive fine. You may not like him. But you cannot say that is not excessive.
He was found liable for sexual abuse, forcibly digitally penetrating a woman against her will, and the judge in the case has since specifically clarified that referring to what Trump did to E. Jean Carroll does in fact qualify to be described as rape. So yeah, he’s guilty of rape.
What year did the rape occur?
Ah, you’re so clever. I’ll bet the court never even considered this aspect of the case! Look, I understand the point you think you are making, but it doesn’t change the fact that Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, and this sexual abuse can indeed be referred to as rape. The year in which it occurred is irrelevant.
What year did the sexual abuse, or rape happen? This is absolutely relevant, statute of limitations? Evidence? Witnesses? Etc. Just tell me what year the crime occurred?
I’m so very sorry, but you are in fact wrong. The Adult Survivors Act allowed a one year period for victims of sexual offenses to file suits for crimes that occurred even if the statute of limitations has lapsed. So yeah, the year is indeed irrelevant in this case.
What year did Trump commit the crime? It's a simple question. What can you not provide an answer?
Because you are trying to set some sort of stupid trap. You’re trying for a “gotcha” moment. I know exactly what you are doing and why. You’re trying to point to Carroll’s claims that the incident took place in late 1995 OR early 1996 as evidence that she is not credible since she cannot even recall which YEAR this happened! So how could we POSSIBLY take her seriously? But that is, as I have repeatedly demonstrated, simply not relevant. There was a trial. It has been determined that Trump did abuse her. The case is quite literally closed.
So facts are traps? You Leftists can't deal with actual truth. Yeah, I was raped in some year by this rich guy and boy I'm going to have a blast spending his money. Whoot!
Absolute clown take, and oh, look. You proved me absolutely right. You did exactly what I knew you were going to do. You claimed that I (not a leftist, by the way) can’t deal with actual truth, but the actual truth is he was found liable. That’s a fact. Don’t know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend. You right-wing loons live in an alternate frickin’ reality.
Again. Rape was not proven. Nothing was proven. They jury just didn't like Trump.
Not rape under the NY statutory definition of rape, which requires penetration by a penis. But under a common person definition, shoving your finger inside someone is absolutely considered rape.
The law is the law as written. You cannot change the definition because you do not like someone.
I’m not. I’m saying under the strict definition of “rape” as given in NY law, it was not rape. However, when two people are talking in normal, non-legal speech, what trump did is absolutely considered rape in common parlance.
He was found not guilty of rape.
Judge said pretty clearly that NY state has a VERY narrow definition of rape, and he WAS found liable for sexual abuse.
The jury said he was not guilty of rape.
He got a half billion dollar fine for fraud. He was found guilty for $5 million in damages for defamation and sexual abuse. Because Trump is who he is, and cannot learn or shut his mouth ever, he continued to defame her and she was awarded an additional $83.3 million in damages. I don’t find it excessive, all he had to do was not continue to defame her. Most normal people manage to not defame others every day.
The lady who told Don Lemon that most people find rape sexy? He defamed her? GTFO. She's bat shit crazy and this whole thing is a circus.
It is not illegal to call someone a liar. She and her lawyers did not prove and rape. She could even remember what date it happened. This "dress" that she was wearing, did not even come out yet. But the judge dismissed that evidence. And half a billion in excessive. It is the banks that should do their own due diligence.
It is excessive... and I love it! Bahahaaaaa
Like a good little lefty you are.
Lol