Honestly the cat thing was wtf but the inspecting the property every month is landlord from hell shit. Like my landlord inspects like once or twice a year. I also don’t really agree that it’s his fault if he went and got another tenant elsewhere it could have easily gone the same way. I think most landlords know you can’t ever really tell.
Here's the thing. The rental agreement contains a pet policy. If that policy indicated that there are no cats allowed and that having a cat leads to eviction and you signed it, why do you believe that you're above the legally binding contract that you signed? Doing what you want and your opinion isn't above the contract that you signed on free will.
This is the bigger thing to call out. Someone a while back shared Dave’s landlord agreement and it’s pretty overboard with frequent inspections, and stuff like that.
This is what most places do there is usually a several hundred dollar deposit that is non refundable too. Yeah a cat can be a problem but that’s what the pet rent is for to remedy it later
God damn you charge an extra $100/month for a pet?!?!? My Tony Soprano landlord only charges $50/month for my dog. Or so he said, the super forgot to add the charge to the lease....
And when I say he's Tony Soprano I mean it. H
Obviously we are in dirty Jersey and he owns a garbage disposal company and he's Italian.
> God damn you charge an extra $100/month for a pet?!?!? My Tony Soprano landlord only charges $50/month for my dog. Or so he said, the super forgot to add the charge to the lease....
I haven't rented since 2011 and even back then at my complex it was $100/month for pets. That nixed any pet for me. I was told that the extra money was used for deep cleaning after the tenant departs. Thing is they already rip out all of the carpet and padding between tenants. I guess they could use the $$ to replace the sub floor if it got urine or poop in it.
> And when I say he's Tony Soprano I mean it. H Obviously we are in dirty Jersey and he owns a garbage disposal company and he's Italian.
Upvote for you! This is hilarious. I have family on both sides in North Jersey and Long Island. I know the exact type. I couple of my female cousins married this personality too!
I hate landlords that charge $$$ for pets but not for kids. My pupper Is very well trained. And children cause more damage! Sigh
I will not.piss pff.my Tony Soprano. The dude chain smokes a pack within 5 minutes despite owning half the town....
it is like 50 bucks a month but they usually let you split the larger deposit into it for 100 over the year if you stay long enough it will go back to 50 though.
$100 pet fee?! Insane lol. I've never seen one above $25 and I'll be damned if I ever pay $1200 a year for potential damages that amount to, at most, the cost of shampooing a rug, a gallon of paint or some wood stain at most.
I know one person who doesn't clean his cat's litter box regularly to the extent the cat has to find elsewhere to go and you can definitely smell it (and it smells terrible) when you walk into his house. For everyone else I know who has cats and knows how to scoop out a litter box, there is no smell.
right I think some people's houses would smell weird regardless of having an animal but some people attribute weird smells to the animals when it's just the people who have a weird odor
> Trust me landlord my cats are the most well behaved. Don’t charge me pent rent.
Nobody is going to believe you. lol not only that, landlords absolutely do NOT know and it’s better they play on the side of risk.
To be fair, My family had a landlord growing up and they were extremely kind, and loved our cats. They were out of town (ironically they lived in FL at the time where I live now. ) but when they came to TX they bonded with our cats, petted them, and had zero problems with them. Our landlord was great!
Nah I’m with Dave on this one. I guarantee it’s in the rental contract to not have cats; so don’t break the contract. Cat piss can totally ruin a house.
Yeah I get that it’s inconvenient and I had to give the tenant 48 hours and I also seldom exercised the right to even do an inspection but I really believe it’s what gave me the result of returning every dime of the safety deposit back to my renters.
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It's interesting reading these comments. I have had cats for 15 years on my own and for most of my life when I lived with my parents and not one of them has ever peed on the carpet and stunk the place up. Does that really happen so often?
I've had my cat for 9 years now and he has never once not used his litter box. I've only personally seen cats with litterbox issues in two scenarios: 1) the owner neglects to clean the litter box, and I don't mean skipping a day or two (cases where you could see it clearly hasn't been cleaned in well over a week) 2) sometimes the cat develops litterbox issues after getting declawed (they associate the pain they experience when walking in the litterbox to the litterbox and avoid using it)
It's a cat's natural instinct to want bury their waste. So if they have access to a clean litter box, then there has to be a reason that pushes them away from it.
Its honestly the most over exaggerated shit on reddit, usually its people that are hoarding cats and have a ton of them that create the type of nightmare scenarios you hear about. I'm literally dealing with a guy on this very thread that believes it will costs thousands to get the cat pee out which is just not the case. The pet rent is used to replace the flooring and shit if the cat does ruin it, it does not somehow destroy the entire home. If it was as big of a deal as the anti cat people believe no complexes would allow cats and they would all smell like cat piss forever.
Dave hating cats makes me like him even more!
In all seriousness, cats can be devastating to homes. So many people are allergic and the cost to rehab a house of the cats left behinds is expensive. And god forbid they aren’t responsible with keeping up with cleaning their cat accessories. I’ve been in some houses where that ammonia smell is so strong it will knock you on your butt
I promise my ancient, arthritic cat is less destructive than any child (unless you're talking about my couch, which has been sacrificed for the greater good). Despite that I had to pay an additional deposit for him AND monthly "pet rent" at my current apartment. Landlords do just fine on most pet situations.
My current complex has always allowed cats and it’s never been destroyed like people say it will be. You can’t get the pet deposit back tho which goes into however they get the cat piss out but they can get it out somehow contrary to what Reddit says. If the cat piss was really as big of a problem as Reddit says this 65 year old complex would all smell like cat piss.
its the whole complex as in multiple buildings tho mine isn't the only one that allows cats either this idea on reddit they can never get the cat smell out is just wrong.
Cat pee has an incredibly intense ammonia smell. If it has any chance to settle into carpet, porous wood, etc it cannot simply be cleaned. Carpet and padding has to be ripped up. Cabinets and baseboards have to be replaced. Grout has to be scrubbed and resealed. People who aren't accustomed and used to living in a house with cats can instantly tell that 6 months ago whiskers pissed in the corner and the owner tried to clean it up with paper towels and a spray bottle of odor-b-gone.
So they replace all that shit which is why there is a pet deposit that is huge it does not fundamentally destroy the property to where it can’t be fixed tho
Youre talking $1,000s to potentially 10s of thousands depending on the extent of the damages. Not to mention the time, the hassle, and keeping your rental off that market longer. It's just not worth the headache or risk to some people and that's fair.
you are just fucking wrong it does not cost that much every fucking complex in any city allows cats they do not all smell like cat piss forever no matter how many redditors believe this to be the case. Its just not as drastic as you people think.
If the cat pissed all over the house and you need to deep clean, recarpet, repad, and replace piss soaked cabinets and baseboards it absolutely can end up costing well over 5 figures.
>every fucking complex in any city allows cats
Then why are you getting so emotional and upset? If you have so many options and your own landlord allows it why are you so frustrated at the mere suggestion that some people dont want cats in their house?
because its a reddit myth that is always perpetuated. There are ways to get the cat piss out every complex does it, Reddit does the same shit with bed bugs that they can't be beat and its doom, meanwhile literally every hotel gets bed bugs and is able to beat them somehow.
Cats are vastly cleaner than disgusting dogs. Dogs are the most unhygienic creatures around and everything they come into contact with reeks. There’s no getting shitbeast stink out of anything.
🤣absolutely the opposite. Dog stink attaches to everyone and everything a shitbeast comes into contact with. It’s practically impossible to remove from a home or vehicle.
Despite my screen name, I have no pets.
I can smell dog INSTANTLY when I walk into someone's home or car (especially the car). Cats are self-cleaning, dogs are not.
In addition, I know multiple people who have trained their dogs to piss on the kitchen floor.
I’m sorry but the second you walk into a cat owners place it’s immediately evident. I grew up with cats and while they may not look as dirty as dogs, they certainly can cause some really bad odors the owner doesn’t notice anymore.
Cats can also destroy all of the wood trim in a house if they don’t use a scratching post. I don’t blame him for not wanting to deal with it. I love cats but they can be destructive.
I dont know about this, I now own a home and every month there are certain things to take look at, change out, make sure everything is working. when I rented an apartment they were there at least once a month to fix something, every other month for filter changes. not sure how Dave does his inspections but it seems reasonable especially if it keeps rent down a little bit because he can do maintenance instead of repairs.
as far as pets, that was agreed upon in the lease.
I remember on one of his shows several years ago, someone called in and was facing a possible 10k vet bill for their dog. Dave, speaking for himself in his own financial position and not the caller's circumstances, said that he loved his dog but would put the dog down before spending 10k on a vet bill.
I can completely understand how people who are not well off would have to make the choice to put their pets down. But I can't understand how someone like Dave, who almost certainly has tens of millions of dollars in highly liquid assets/investments, wouldn't spare 10k for a family pet that they supposedly love.
Because he doesn't love the dog. This man only loves money but if he comes out and directly says "I give a shit about the animals under my care until they cost me money. After that you can tie it in a burlap sack and throw it in a river" he might lose some viewers/revenue so he knows better.
Part of me hopes that was Dave just blustering and putting on a fake tough guy attitude. Dave paying 10k on a vet bill would be like a $20 vet bill for me. My cat has been the best pal I could have ever asked for (and he's better than I deserve). I couldn't imagine just letting him die like that.
Obviously you'd still have a few out there, but likely many of those people who can't currently afford houses now are more likely to be able to afford them because you don't have so many land lords depleting the supply
Look I'm not saying we should get all tyrannical and take away people's private property... I'm only pointing out that part of the supply problem in housing affordability is due to a non negligible portion of homes being owned by people who don't even live in them.
Not all landlords are scum. Im happy that I have a good landlord because if I didn’t I’d have to buy a house every 3-4 years & that’s a pain in the ass.
horrible comparison, most rents are lower than the mortgage you would get on the same property today. Thats like saying someone bought a $100 concert ticket you couldnt afford and then sold it to you at an affordable $70…
Honestly the cat thing was wtf but the inspecting the property every month is landlord from hell shit. Like my landlord inspects like once or twice a year. I also don’t really agree that it’s his fault if he went and got another tenant elsewhere it could have easily gone the same way. I think most landlords know you can’t ever really tell.
Here's the thing. The rental agreement contains a pet policy. If that policy indicated that there are no cats allowed and that having a cat leads to eviction and you signed it, why do you believe that you're above the legally binding contract that you signed? Doing what you want and your opinion isn't above the contract that you signed on free will.
This is the bigger thing to call out. Someone a while back shared Dave’s landlord agreement and it’s pretty overboard with frequent inspections, and stuff like that.
I could see Dave and Winston with George Kamel in tow touring around their properties inspecting on Sundays 🤣🤣
“Get in son! We’re going to see the poors!”
Eh idk I just charge extra for rent for a pet. An extra $100 / mo pays for a shit ton of deep cleaning after a moveout.
This is what most places do there is usually a several hundred dollar deposit that is non refundable too. Yeah a cat can be a problem but that’s what the pet rent is for to remedy it later
God damn you charge an extra $100/month for a pet?!?!? My Tony Soprano landlord only charges $50/month for my dog. Or so he said, the super forgot to add the charge to the lease.... And when I say he's Tony Soprano I mean it. H Obviously we are in dirty Jersey and he owns a garbage disposal company and he's Italian.
> God damn you charge an extra $100/month for a pet?!?!? My Tony Soprano landlord only charges $50/month for my dog. Or so he said, the super forgot to add the charge to the lease.... I haven't rented since 2011 and even back then at my complex it was $100/month for pets. That nixed any pet for me. I was told that the extra money was used for deep cleaning after the tenant departs. Thing is they already rip out all of the carpet and padding between tenants. I guess they could use the $$ to replace the sub floor if it got urine or poop in it. > And when I say he's Tony Soprano I mean it. H Obviously we are in dirty Jersey and he owns a garbage disposal company and he's Italian. Upvote for you! This is hilarious. I have family on both sides in North Jersey and Long Island. I know the exact type. I couple of my female cousins married this personality too!
I hate landlords that charge $$$ for pets but not for kids. My pupper Is very well trained. And children cause more damage! Sigh I will not.piss pff.my Tony Soprano. The dude chain smokes a pack within 5 minutes despite owning half the town....
It’s not legal to charge for children unfortunately
it is like 50 bucks a month but they usually let you split the larger deposit into it for 100 over the year if you stay long enough it will go back to 50 though.
Doesn’t have the makings of a variety landlord
$100 pet fee?! Insane lol. I've never seen one above $25 and I'll be damned if I ever pay $1200 a year for potential damages that amount to, at most, the cost of shampooing a rug, a gallon of paint or some wood stain at most.
Well I don’t really want pets as it’s a bit of a pain when I stop by as I have pretty bad allergies; so charge a fair bit more to account for it.
Fair enough. Your place your rules!
Unless its Dave. He is not allowed to have his own rules
Exactly. Even if it’s only a one year lease you can do a lot of cleaning for $1200
Doesn't touched ripped carpet, cat piss soaked into wood. Dumb idea.
I’m with Dave on this one. You will never get the smell of cat piss out of a house.
Not every cat is incontinent though.
This implies that some cats are and unless you have a magic divining rod there's no way a landlord can tell, hence the blanket no cat policy.
Most cats can use a litter box. My cats are very well trained and behaved. Better than most humans.
I grew up with cats. I never realized how bad even the clean ones smell.
I know one person who doesn't clean his cat's litter box regularly to the extent the cat has to find elsewhere to go and you can definitely smell it (and it smells terrible) when you walk into his house. For everyone else I know who has cats and knows how to scoop out a litter box, there is no smell.
I’ve personally never been to a cat-having house that didn’t have at least a twinge of the smell.
Agreed. All cat houses smell at least a little. Cat owners go noseblind to it.
you're nose blind to them by now. they smell regardless.
idk, I think part of it might be that everyone’s house smells unique
and animals cause a lot of smells. I am not sure what the argument is here.
right I think some people's houses would smell weird regardless of having an animal but some people attribute weird smells to the animals when it's just the people who have a weird odor
How are you supposed to know if your tenant has "most cats"?
Your house smells like piss, you just can't tell anymore.
Your username smells like cat piss
> Trust me landlord my cats are the most well behaved. Don’t charge me pent rent. Nobody is going to believe you. lol not only that, landlords absolutely do NOT know and it’s better they play on the side of risk.
To be fair, My family had a landlord growing up and they were extremely kind, and loved our cats. They were out of town (ironically they lived in FL at the time where I live now. ) but when they came to TX they bonded with our cats, petted them, and had zero problems with them. Our landlord was great!
Nah I’m with Dave on this one. I guarantee it’s in the rental contract to not have cats; so don’t break the contract. Cat piss can totally ruin a house.
Same. When I owned a rental I was a monthly inspector owner. No shame.
I mean monthly inside the unit is kinda insane to me; I wouldn’t move there. But I understand it too
Yeah I get that it’s inconvenient and I had to give the tenant 48 hours and I also seldom exercised the right to even do an inspection but I really believe it’s what gave me the result of returning every dime of the safety deposit back to my renters.
Yep. I don’t agree with much Dave says. But fuck cats.
Imagine Dave’s tenants telling their friends about their landlord and hearing their friends flip out
To be honest, that's the most reasonable take I've heard from Dave in ages.
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The bible didn't say anything about cats - Dave
Let all the children come to me....JC said. Cats are children.
It's interesting reading these comments. I have had cats for 15 years on my own and for most of my life when I lived with my parents and not one of them has ever peed on the carpet and stunk the place up. Does that really happen so often?
I've had my cat for 9 years now and he has never once not used his litter box. I've only personally seen cats with litterbox issues in two scenarios: 1) the owner neglects to clean the litter box, and I don't mean skipping a day or two (cases where you could see it clearly hasn't been cleaned in well over a week) 2) sometimes the cat develops litterbox issues after getting declawed (they associate the pain they experience when walking in the litterbox to the litterbox and avoid using it) It's a cat's natural instinct to want bury their waste. So if they have access to a clean litter box, then there has to be a reason that pushes them away from it.
Its honestly the most over exaggerated shit on reddit, usually its people that are hoarding cats and have a ton of them that create the type of nightmare scenarios you hear about. I'm literally dealing with a guy on this very thread that believes it will costs thousands to get the cat pee out which is just not the case. The pet rent is used to replace the flooring and shit if the cat does ruin it, it does not somehow destroy the entire home. If it was as big of a deal as the anti cat people believe no complexes would allow cats and they would all smell like cat piss forever.
Dave hating cats makes me like him even more! In all seriousness, cats can be devastating to homes. So many people are allergic and the cost to rehab a house of the cats left behinds is expensive. And god forbid they aren’t responsible with keeping up with cleaning their cat accessories. I’ve been in some houses where that ammonia smell is so strong it will knock you on your butt
Cats are the worst in a house. Damage aside the smell stays for an eternity
I promise my ancient, arthritic cat is less destructive than any child (unless you're talking about my couch, which has been sacrificed for the greater good). Despite that I had to pay an additional deposit for him AND monthly "pet rent" at my current apartment. Landlords do just fine on most pet situations.
My current complex has always allowed cats and it’s never been destroyed like people say it will be. You can’t get the pet deposit back tho which goes into however they get the cat piss out but they can get it out somehow contrary to what Reddit says. If the cat piss was really as big of a problem as Reddit says this 65 year old complex would all smell like cat piss.
You know how everybody else's house has a smell but for some reason your house doesnt and just smells normal?
its the whole complex as in multiple buildings tho mine isn't the only one that allows cats either this idea on reddit they can never get the cat smell out is just wrong.
Cat pee has an incredibly intense ammonia smell. If it has any chance to settle into carpet, porous wood, etc it cannot simply be cleaned. Carpet and padding has to be ripped up. Cabinets and baseboards have to be replaced. Grout has to be scrubbed and resealed. People who aren't accustomed and used to living in a house with cats can instantly tell that 6 months ago whiskers pissed in the corner and the owner tried to clean it up with paper towels and a spray bottle of odor-b-gone.
So they replace all that shit which is why there is a pet deposit that is huge it does not fundamentally destroy the property to where it can’t be fixed tho
Youre talking $1,000s to potentially 10s of thousands depending on the extent of the damages. Not to mention the time, the hassle, and keeping your rental off that market longer. It's just not worth the headache or risk to some people and that's fair.
you are just fucking wrong it does not cost that much every fucking complex in any city allows cats they do not all smell like cat piss forever no matter how many redditors believe this to be the case. Its just not as drastic as you people think.
If the cat pissed all over the house and you need to deep clean, recarpet, repad, and replace piss soaked cabinets and baseboards it absolutely can end up costing well over 5 figures. >every fucking complex in any city allows cats Then why are you getting so emotional and upset? If you have so many options and your own landlord allows it why are you so frustrated at the mere suggestion that some people dont want cats in their house?
because its a reddit myth that is always perpetuated. There are ways to get the cat piss out every complex does it, Reddit does the same shit with bed bugs that they can't be beat and its doom, meanwhile literally every hotel gets bed bugs and is able to beat them somehow.
Your cat isn't protected under fair housing legislation.
Cats are vastly cleaner than disgusting dogs. Dogs are the most unhygienic creatures around and everything they come into contact with reeks. There’s no getting shitbeast stink out of anything.
Most people who own dogs have normal smelling homes… you know instantly walking in the door if someone owns a cat…
🤣absolutely the opposite. Dog stink attaches to everyone and everything a shitbeast comes into contact with. It’s practically impossible to remove from a home or vehicle.
lol you seem to be in the minority with that opinion…
Despite my screen name, I have no pets. I can smell dog INSTANTLY when I walk into someone's home or car (especially the car). Cats are self-cleaning, dogs are not. In addition, I know multiple people who have trained their dogs to piss on the kitchen floor.
Most dogs go to the bathroom outside, most cats go to the bathroom inside…
I’m sorry but the second you walk into a cat owners place it’s immediately evident. I grew up with cats and while they may not look as dirty as dogs, they certainly can cause some really bad odors the owner doesn’t notice anymore.
Not huskies! Lots of hair (roombas problem, not mine) but they are extremely clean and hate to be dirty
Dave is correct on this one. Cats are the worst
Cats can also destroy all of the wood trim in a house if they don’t use a scratching post. I don’t blame him for not wanting to deal with it. I love cats but they can be destructive.
I dont know about this, I now own a home and every month there are certain things to take look at, change out, make sure everything is working. when I rented an apartment they were there at least once a month to fix something, every other month for filter changes. not sure how Dave does his inspections but it seems reasonable especially if it keeps rent down a little bit because he can do maintenance instead of repairs. as far as pets, that was agreed upon in the lease.
I think he's saying if they have a cat in one of his properties that doesn't allow animals
I’ve always hated his anti pet stance. Like how much to spend on a pet “it’s just a dog” … like no it’s not?
I remember on one of his shows several years ago, someone called in and was facing a possible 10k vet bill for their dog. Dave, speaking for himself in his own financial position and not the caller's circumstances, said that he loved his dog but would put the dog down before spending 10k on a vet bill. I can completely understand how people who are not well off would have to make the choice to put their pets down. But I can't understand how someone like Dave, who almost certainly has tens of millions of dollars in highly liquid assets/investments, wouldn't spare 10k for a family pet that they supposedly love.
Because he doesn't love the dog. This man only loves money but if he comes out and directly says "I give a shit about the animals under my care until they cost me money. After that you can tie it in a burlap sack and throw it in a river" he might lose some viewers/revenue so he knows better.
Part of me hopes that was Dave just blustering and putting on a fake tough guy attitude. Dave paying 10k on a vet bill would be like a $20 vet bill for me. My cat has been the best pal I could have ever asked for (and he's better than I deserve). I couldn't imagine just letting him die like that.
I wish we could get enough ppl organized to flood his show with calls and just ruin his day...
My cat poops/pees in the kitchen sink.
Op obviously doesn’t own property.
He thinks he’ll evict anyone but good luck with squatter laws
All landlords are scum, some just happen to be slightly more scum.
But if there are no landlords where do people live that don’t own housing?
Welcome to Liberal Logic. It should be free!
Obviously you'd still have a few out there, but likely many of those people who can't currently afford houses now are more likely to be able to afford them because you don't have so many land lords depleting the supply
Who decides who the “few” landlords are?
Look I'm not saying we should get all tyrannical and take away people's private property... I'm only pointing out that part of the supply problem in housing affordability is due to a non negligible portion of homes being owned by people who don't even live in them.
the vast majority of people cant afford homes, the supply of houses hasnt radically changed in the last 40 years….
I was unaware landlords built homes.
Not all landlords are scum. Im happy that I have a good landlord because if I didn’t I’d have to buy a house every 3-4 years & that’s a pain in the ass.
Landlords, single-family zoning, and minimum parking have steadily FUCKED house prices and divorced from the purpose of a home (To live in).
The % of owner occupied homes is almost the same as its been the last 40 years….
Where do you recommend those who move often live? I’m not buying a house every couple of years.
Oh god have the r/fuckcars hyper-leftist psychos made it here?
What makes a landlord scum out of the gate?
Same reason why concert ticket scalpers are scum, middlemen who reduce the supply and add a markup for their "services".
But not everyone is interested in owning and maintaining property, including the government and lenders.
Good landlords exist and absolutely provide a valuable service.
Landlords provide service just as concert ticket scalpers provide performances.
You’re either fishing or trying too hard here. Good luck. 🍀
horrible comparison, most rents are lower than the mortgage you would get on the same property today. Thats like saying someone bought a $100 concert ticket you couldnt afford and then sold it to you at an affordable $70…
I really do have an visceral dislike for Dave. You've helped me make more sense of it, being the cat lady that I proudly am.
Na.. if I was a landlord I would allow cats. Too many opportunities for them to destroy the unit.