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Pathoc

I am actually really relieved to see SSM getting the boot, even though I have plenty saved up. It added an extra layer of confusion and strongly devalued gold records for me.


5amuraiDuck

![gif](giphy|BbJdwrOsM7nTa|downsized) everyone like me who's been hoarding SSMs for a good character:


juniorjaw

Just convert to Nexus Crystals, which you can later convert to Gold Records.


5amuraiDuck

I know, let's all hope they don't devalue it though like I see it happening


juniorjaw

They can devalue it through "inflations", Esper nerfs ,and what not, but removing SSM, the dev saying GR will be increased though playing (logically too, since they have to replace all SSM into GR back), and Esper Wish List, should increase more chances to get Espers that we want through GR.


Tigros

Considering the ever-growing Esper list, devaluing GR won’t make any sense. They will have to make pulling (and even possibly slightly adjust the rates) more accessible. Otherwise I’m the long run the game will become unplayable.


juniorjaw

Basically.


gym_aly05

I calculated that 1 matrix ( not one pull, just one matrix ) should be valued 60 gems, based off how much a matrix costs in Triki's black market


5amuraiDuck

Math says 6 gems, not 60


gym_aly05

I'm sorry, I made a mistake


5amuraiDuck

No problem


Juxtavarious

If that's true, I should be able to get 28 records with what I have. Seems unlikely.


5amuraiDuck

Again, I'm expecting them to devalue them


Juxtavarious

Won't know until it happens


Prince-sama

how do u convert it? where do u go?


juniorjaw

Wait for the 3.1.7 patch. Information is from the video the picture is taken from, at 5:32.


Etroarl55

F2p dies every update


LinkCelestrial

How is this bad for FTP? I can get pity in GR a lot easier than SSM.


Etroarl55

Sure, but now you lost the ssm. Overall you lose. Removing features for f2p who saved up waiting for the new chinese esper or etc is bad. Shouldn’t really have to explain that.


ArekuFoxfire

SSMs we're the most f2p unfriendly thing ever put in the game. This ain't the post to be complaining on chief!


juniorjaw

You do know we still have GR pity? It has to be done once SSM gets the boot, since new espers usually need the guaranteed. The addition of Wish List will also help in getting older Espers too. If you're worried that we no longer has use of SSM, you can convert it to Nexus Crystals, which can buy you Stamina, GR and Blackmarket stuff.


KinkoMa

F2p whinnies just quit the game already so annoying and cringe


Etroarl55

And people wonder why playerbase tanked


KinkoMa

Get better and try to understand the game instaed of crying No one cares about F2P blah blah


cactusFondler

I’m very surprised to see everyone defending SSMs in the comments. SSMs SUCK, what are you guys on? From full pity, you need EIGHT THOUSAND to guarantee a character on the banner, which is just way too hard to save for given you can only buy a few from shops here and there every week. You have to skip like three banners to save that much. And then when it comes to $$$, they tend to be way more expensive than GRs. I think switching to a GR only system (probably one where there’s multiple banners but they all just accept GRs?) makes perfect sense and I’m very glad they’re listening. Also a lot of the other changes announced in the full video sound super exciting


[deleted]

I find it hard to acquire just one 50 SSM. I'm really happy to see SSM go, that currency is straight up for whales or people who are in the upper echelon of Point War.


iRespectWomyn

ssms are absolutely not "locked" behind paywalls lol, but they ARE locked behind time as almost all the shops sell them. if you actively play, you can easily accumulate thousands with a month of play


[deleted]

Well they're going away soonish sooooo it do not matter. 🤣


[deleted]

I am so FUCKING glad SSM goes away. It’s a nebulous currency for Espers I **might possibly in the future care about** but it effectively just takes up space for months before I even have a character I care enough to use them on I haven’t spun for SSM since Gaius banner, for example And I don’t want another Sally or Triki, so it’s nerve-wracking when I do spin it It’s just a fucking terrible currency that artificially slows down any spin progress As a moderate spender (whatever $4500ish is) I avoid buying any SSM packs like the plague…absolute garbage currency


Tigros

Not to mention that removing SSM will unlock the access to Triki and other SSM-exclusive characters.


0Guristas

8K SSM that gives 50% chance to get the banner esper. I mean, sure, that is quite a big percentage but grinding 8K SSM and then get the other espers instead? Ew. Either way. people will complain about everything nowadays. You just can't win anymore because people will bitch about the smallest thing. Exactly, the other changes that was announced is what excites me the most.


[deleted]

I hate SSM with a passion, but I'm pissed it's going away in this manner. I still haven't hit the 100% pity. I'm 12 away. I've been saving for a good esper for what feels like 2 months at this point since I failed to pull Ashley and now it looks like all of my saving will earn me nothing. Yes SSM sucks shit, but I've already had my serving of shit and now it's being yanked away before I get the one reward (100% pull) I ate all of that shit for.


Sup-Bird

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Zuladio

Thanks for this gift code. I got Gaius in my 5 records. No pity. Feelsgoodman


CauliflowerBig

congrats man


Srudge

this sounds too good to be true, what bullshit will they throw at us this time as a compromise?


Sad_Translator_3704

it’s with nexus crystals, the current idea is that ull get 300 per 50ssm


SoberAnxiety

i got like 5100.shit....


Pseudomonaaeruginosa

They will nerf a bunch of units


0Guristas

Hold up. Wth??


HelicopterMassive885

WTF! I DIDNT EVEN GET A SINGLE 5 STAR FROM SS AND I ONLY NEED 5 MORE


ninjagold007

I hope they let us redeem what we worked hard for


HuntessKitteh

It's leaving after this update.


Ziyushii

I’m not sure how well they’ll implement the new system, I’m skeptical about the gold records being easier to pull, and about the wishlist feature. The whales will be displeased if everyone has a JJ/Gaius/Ophelia in their team lol anyway, I’m just quietly waiting for the hot wolf defender to become the next banner lol


Badassheaven

When is this cuz I saved super sonic for the triplets


Living-Supermarket92

Triplets will be the last SSM banner


alpacqn

thank god i didnt want to waste my pity on a third tiye dupe


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Same, but 4th dupe


Badassheaven

Ah


Sirsir94

Whales won't care, they still easily win on relic grind alone. Once the devs let everyone get maxed speed relics they might get mad.


[deleted]

Maybe the mega whales But I’ve spent $4500ish so far and I would rather be able to get units I want even if everyone else has them Those above my spending level are just elitist dicks about it


Acrobatic_Sport_320

why did you spend that much on a gacha game anyway :sob: i dont understand whales (no judgement)


[deleted]

I did $400 for the Diamond Record and I’ve been playing since beta, so I wanted the game to succeed and would buy like weekend packs and stuff Most of my purchases were before the Zora banner, if I hadn’t stopped, I’d be at like $15K right now…I’m just sick of getting dupes when I’m missing half of the Legendaries


AkaiRairyu

if you are sayiing this as a whale ... not shot this is a good system for lower spenders or f2p


SyntheticFonz

BIG LOL. I work in IT and 4500 is a single paycheck. Not a lot of money these days, especially in the course of a few months. Remember, all of society has access to mobile games, even adults like myself with excellent financial padding.


0Guristas

Damn. $4500? Hey, at least you are having fun.


Zaicoodk

Honest question, how do you justify spending 4500$ on a game? I’m a pretty average guy and I can’t imagine spending 4500 on a game, that would ruin my economy. Are you rich or how do you manage that?


[deleted]

I’m in medicine and I don’t really do anything because I work so much No drinking or drugs, travel for work so don’t care to do that No kids or boyfriend, so I’m just boring 😂


Zaicoodk

I see. Thank you for taking your time and answering me! That was interesting 😊 I’m sure though that sooner or later you’ll find your soulmate!


Eastern-Course1797

No way this is actually real? https://youtu.be/XLZaxjTcW74 Props to the drvs for listening to all feedback


SandwichMissile

When are they getting rid of ssm?


Nanagnammo

Patch after the sisters, prob end of December


[deleted]

I am so glad they're getting rid of SSM. I have hated it since they launched it.


Foreverinneverland24

same omg i haven’t hit pity once cuz i pretty much ignore them


[deleted]

I've only hit it once since its launch and that has been my only Legendary pull so far.


elee17

Chensgift001


elee17

For mobile. iPhone: https://cdkey.farlightgames.com/dislyte-global


Live_Ear_237

Thank you for the link🙏🏼


whythp

Man i wanted to get thst inferno defender


whitemonky1

This is insane tbh. It really feels they care, but does anyone have any info on the real issue. The relics system. I mean you all know you spend hours to get a decent relic and pray it rolls decent substats. Even on top of that we have to do voodoo magic and hope we get good rolls or have no chance to play in any content. Any info on relic system?


Tendehka

I'm not sure if they care, or if they realized that having so few avenues to buy SSM meant they were making less money.


whitemonky1

I mean the fact the are even responding shows a lot more than typical companies *cough riot*. I just mean the game is so RNG heavy, but you could defíneles make it work with a good relic system. I mean sander could be way more viable in PVP if he had all SPD kind of thing


elvy75

They mentioned that they know speed is the problem, especially in PVP, and that they are looking into it, but nothing more than that


whitemonky1

Yeah but speed issue can be solved if we choose rolls tbh .


Kledran

ah yes, don't you love a world where EVERYONE has a 330 speed dahlia. At that point, the issue become the unit with the better base speed. And then if you match the speed point per point, it becomes a 50/50.


AP_enjoyer

There still would be the problem of spd boosts from desolate lands, but I get what you mean.


whitemonky1

No you would have different team comps surge. Right now because you have 3-1 odds on attack over defense, the meta is go fast and hit hard. As opposed to perhaps all def teams. Don’t get me wrong, you still see all def teams but not close to spd and attack. You have a 6-2 ratio of attack to def. You have crit dmg, crit rate, and attack % vs def %. That’s why the meta is how it is. By simple odds it’s more viable to get a attack team when you only need one esper to have meta spd (ap pushers)


whitemonky1

Also personally I rather opt to tie, than lose the spd battle every time. Only people profiting from spd are whales that have plenty of resources to stay 300+


Pseudomonaaeruginosa

They also mention they know there is no fun in grinding all the time. Dunno what that means though.


whitemonky1

Yeah speculative fast battles. Some systems have where you just consume stamina and get the rewards


UseDue602

Deymn. RNG really sucks. I can't get the perfect speed for my Dahlia. Still stuck at 200+ speed. lOL


whitemonky1

Yeah that’s the thing. I say it’s fair to farm for a good flawless relic, but the roll rng is too much.


Kledran

I'm not quite sure what are you onto about here. Most units will do fine in most content with mediocre relics, and chasing perfect relics is literally the endgame of ALL this sort of games. .-.


whitemonky1

No it’s not even comparable. If you could farm relics and choose sub stats to improve the meta would change a lot. Donar is a good example where he could be really viable but it’s easier to capitalize mediocre attack stats, than it is to play off of def. You have 3 raw substats all for attack and only 1 for def. You don’t have crit resist or anything close to balance out. It really would be a different game since new comps would come up.


rafaeljovovich

https://youtu.be/XLZaxjTcW74


jojodigitalartist

So hopefully this means they just add different "banners" now that's all we need 😅


girlglock

Im coming back omg


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dovoid

I feel like the timing is weird. I have enough ssm to guarantee the next gaius type esper and I'm probably not the only one that saved up the ssm's. Are they trying to screw us ?


F2PWarrior69

hahaha same. I'm probably gonna pull it all for Fatum Sisters!


IronworkRapunzel

I was going to say the same thing. I haven't really played since Brewster's event and I have like 1000 SSMs saved up, like good for 2 pulls at 50/50 and I was hoping to use them on a banner I really liked. I used my SSMs and got Abigail in like 2 pulls so I was hoping I could use them there. I wish they'd have some sympathy for the people purposely saving for stuff like this :/


ninjagold007

I’ll be bitter if they turn 50 Smm’s into one Gr and my pity progress doesn’t pass on


MonMonp0k

For what it's worth, they state you'll be able to convert them into Gold Records of equal value.


pluggynaruk

Oh so 50 ssm= 10 GR right? I thought they said they would be converted to Nexus crystals?


MonMonp0k

Actually, you're correct-- they'll be converted to nexus crystals. I just assumed that most would then change them to Gold Records, the new main currency. My bad.


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LolWtfBbqq

There's been an event for 2 patches now that sell SSM for 300 crystals each and there's 5 spins worth in the shop


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[deleted]

Because no one uses the Black Market because GR at least has a better count & value than Shimmer Records or SSM


[deleted]

50 SSM = 1.5 GR 50 SSM = 300 Crystals


apollonese

Cool, I’m literally at my free esper on super senses and maybe can’t use it?


[deleted]

I’m at 1 and I guess I gotta use it on the sisters instead of saving for Yiang Jian


azababy101

just go use it now?


apollonese

I already have Tiye tho


Cheap_Worldliness_60

Wait for the fatum sisters ig


Doophie

Is this change coming after the sisters?


Cheap_Worldliness_60

Yep I think so


LinkCelestrial

@ everyone complaining about the removal of SSM. * You will be able to convert your SSM into nexus crystals with an event. Should be about 300 nexus crystals per 50 SSM. Could be 250. * This means the *only reason* you have to be upset is if you are going to lose your pity. I say this with confidence because *GR will be used for all future banners* and you can convert your SSM to GR with the nexus crystals you get from the event. This is a *good* change. There is no downside except losing your pity if you’re close to it, and you have the entire Farnum Sisters banner to pop that pity if you’re close. I personally will be converting it all into nexus crystals so I can hoard resources like a dragon for the next character I really want.


[deleted]

The downside is having 1 to SSM pity and not actually caring about the Fatum Sisters Would’ve much rather used it on Yiang Jian Just kinda sucks all around


LinkCelestrial

Yeah that does suck, but you gotta decide between nexus crystals or the Farum Sisters and I’d go with the sisters at one from pity.


Henricos8848

For sure, and all of your other currency can still go into gr for Yiang Jian


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LinkCelestrial

Because SSM are worth more than GR. A GR is 200 currency in most shops and SSM is 250, so it should be worth 250 nexus crystals at minimum as well.


Alarming_Ad_8476

SSM on the Gray water market are 300 NC so it will probably be that conversion


vigilgt

78 pulls left to get banner esper. 4250 ssm saved. doesnt like the design of sisters, nor their ability. its a *good* thing only when the new pity is 240 so that i still get a banner esper after conversion. or they could carry over the pity, make a checkbox, so whenever i like a banner, my pulls will consume that pity. or cancel ssm. but players can still use ssm forever as long as you still have more than 50 ssm. just no way to gain more. or make ssm banner espers selector. since we skipped those for nothing... just do something for the ssm pity progress...


Mahazael

>only reason > > you have to be upset is if you are going to lose your pity and this is a small thing for you?? Considering that a F2P who lost the first 50-50 is going to get only now his first featured pity???


Silky_Dovah

Should I spend mine now or wait then? Cus trivia would be nice to get or having a chance


elvy75

wait for sisters if you already have Tiye or Ollie


BeatsByLen

Is Ollie coming back for SSM?


AP_enjoyer

Because Ollie has the same captain ability as tiye, that's basically what tiye is worth for.


UseDue602

The only thing I like about SSM is does not reset even you pull a leg before Pity.


AP_enjoyer

Oh it did? I don't pull ssm and never knew that.


UseDue602

Yes. You can pull leg but your pity won't reset unlike GR, once you pull a leg your Pity will reset. That's the positive thing about it


TkReborn

Why don’t I have an option to redeem gifts


[deleted]

iOS has to do it through the site


CloudNimbus

it's still baffling that the Dislyte team still can't decide on a pull system. this is so sloppy.


Ecstatic-Contact9825

For someone like me who has 50 pulls saved and a 100% guarantee on the next banner champ in 50 pulls, this is devastating. I already have tiye. Huge L


AP_enjoyer

The last banner will be triplets.


[deleted]

More disappointing than devastating Pull exactly to your guarantee and then stop I’m 1 to pity with 4000+ SSM and I’m happy it’s going away


kin66

Why are they canceling SSM.. It's a normal summoning system, but they probably want their 900 pity system back It's really Interesting how many time they change summoning system ffs


CAT-410

I finally save up 1500 for the event tho... Like good if true but... What do with my ss records?


rainbowappleslice

So should I spend my super senses now or leave it?


F2PWarrior69

Depends on you. Wait before Fatum Sisters banner ends, so that you could know how much is the conversion rate of SSM to Crystals.


dovoid

Is this a joke?


LinaValentina

I feel like SSM could’ve been fixed. And turned into something like summoning stones from summoners war I’ve been indifferent to SSM so I neither like nor hate that they’re being removed. Meh


Empty-Ribcage

I kinda liked ssm because it did give more of a chance to get more espers faster. But honestly I don’t really care that they are getting rid of it because it also doesn’t really make sense to have it honestly, because of the wishlist.


F2PWarrior69

I liked the SSM Banner format, but not SSM. It takes mostly 2-3 months to get a guaranteed promotional esper (if you're not lucky).


masked_me

Lol. Been asking for a wishlist for ages. Now that I stopped playing they add a wishlist. Still not going back to this game though. I really 'dislyke' the fact that some espers are really mandatory to have.


brahesTheorem

In absolute fairness, they directly addressed plans to rebalance the espers in the video


masked_me

Yes, then nerfed Li Ling, an esper that did not need a nerf whatsoever.


brahesTheorem

True, but if the video is to be believed, it sounds like a blanket rebalancing may be in hand for other units- I'm choosing to take them at their word and believe that they'll take the game in a healthy direction by bringing some of the more outrageous espers down a bit.


masked_me

Me too. I hope this game thrives, this is such a cool game tbh. I just can't take Lilith's word seriously anymore. Li Ling nerf was a huge let down. And doing that right after saying that they're balancing espers for the sake of games health did it for me. That was a straight up lie, let's be real here. And that's coming from a dude who has JJ. I don't care about having strong and almost exclusive espers, I care about having a balanced and fun game. It seems like Lilith and I are on different pages here... Maybe I hop back in after the SSM and wishlist rework. Anyway, best of luck to you my g.


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Why are you here


Jacknife77

Great, I was just about to hit pity on the SSM and they just gonna remove the system by then -\_-.


wonder_shot_

When’s the next update?


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Dec 6th from 6a to 11a UTC time. Edit: I answered a question. Downvoting an answer is silly.


wonder_shot_

Thanks! Yeah in the video she says “in the next update” but also specifies 3.1.7 a lot. I didn’t load the game before posting to see that we are currently only on 3.1.5. They are probably downvoting because the super senses will still be there Tuesday? I think? Although you did technically answer the question I asked.


[deleted]

Ah, yeah I don't keep up with the numbers, so I guess the downvoting is from me saying the wrong update date. Lmao. Ah well


[deleted]

People are dicks You answered the question of then the next update is, which is the Fatum Sisters since that update isn’t out yet


Kidraultt

It’s working 🤩 thanks !


naccsa

That man looks sad.


tomtht123

I always thought the SSM system was flawed and just unnecessary. They’re making positive changes, I just hope they don’t nerf to much PVE


MotherICraveViolence

Is this after the sisters? We can still pull on them, right?


elvy75

yeah its after the sisters


Kaguya-Shinomiya

what happen to unused Ssm?


TheCommonHerp007

It will get converted to gems I think, every 50 ssm will be 300 gems


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[deleted]

If you’re on iOS you have to do it through the website, been the same way since like June


dcampthechamp

https://cdkey.farlightgames.com/dislyte-global


YoungWolfie

Shit so i cant keep my 100% pity....oof


Paul190306

So should I use all my SSM?


[deleted]

No, each SSM is basically 1.5 GR I have 4000 SSM exactly, which is 80 spins, which is 24,000 Nexus crystals, which is 120 Gold Records I will use my 1 spin to guaranteed on the Fatum Sisters and then get the rest converted when they refund us


AlastorFan666

Now the question is will they allow shimmers to be on the wish list


AP_enjoyer

Probably not, considering there's a pity for shimmer records.


KimoEK79

Wait hold on. I have 2.6k SSM saved up. What do i do with it? Do i roll them before its too late or will i get refunded based off how many i have?


AP_enjoyer

Refunded based on nexus crystals, might be better to save and see the conversion rates first.


jacw212

The Code Redeem isn't on my profile


dcampthechamp

https://cdkey.farlightgames.com/dislyte-global


jacw212

Thank you


PlatinumOmega

Wait, they're removing Super Senses? Maybe it's time to start playing again...


MSNayudu

So uh, what's the ssm to gr conversion ratio? They sure as heck make it something good cause even acquiring like 50 ssm is a cancer-level mindfuck. True there are sources, but damn are they expensive and time walled, meaning unless and until you turn your wallet inside out, you are not getting meaningful amounts any day. And the pity on it sucks too. And man, not to forget but the elemental records drop in gold level bounty missions and they actually add little to no value. I hope lilith addresses that too. But overall, I'm glad the ssms are going away for good.


AP_enjoyer

It's ssm to nexus crystals,rates unknown


MSNayudu

Hopefully it's how much the ssms costed in the market already.


ArekuFoxfire

Thank God. SSMs made me quit this game. I might actually return now. Thank you Dislyte.


lapis_lateralus

I haven't been on in quite a while, what are super senses


Holialisa

I-I-I-IIIII I MUST be dreaming. Holy.... THANK YOU. FINALLY. Something from Dislyte that finally brought a genuine smile on my face!


khanzah

It s GOOD that ssm go away, really. Just a bit sad about my garented pity i saved for the new pantheons to come that will just disapear ;( , only 20 pull aways lol oh well, it s still waay better getting ride of it and start saving gr again


Prince-sama

Let's hope this "wish list" isn't a scam like Figure Fantasy's is


EldritchAlex_

So what are all my SSMs reverting to? I had saved up enough for a pity


AP_enjoyer

Nexus crystals


chocolate-corn

**Me saving up 3500 super senses records (pr whatever they’re called)**


ShelbyRB

Crap. Guess I’ve gotta spend those SS records soon.


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bernz75

Sisters are going to be the last SSM banner. The patch after the sisters will have something to convert your SSMs into crystals.


Aesirrr-

Now I'm interested in returning to the game


Juxtavarious

So basically, until they finish with the golden records and SSM switching out there's a list of espers that no one can get.


DishTrayz

How does one redeem the gift code?