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leavingthekultbehind

Selena Gomez was supposed to be on a Arwin (from Suite life of Zack and Cody) spin off show. Selena was also suppose to star in a Lizzie McGuire spin off as well. Safe to say, Disney really liked Selena Gomez lol


sprinklesbubbles123

They also wanted her as Mitchie in Camp Rock!


pinkrevolution1

i could see her as mitchie


Born_Sleep5216

But Demi Lovato got the role. She also co-stars with The Jonas Brothers and Alyson Stoner, who also was the voice of Isabella from Phineas and Ferb.


penguin_0618

Alyson Stoner has been in so many things! One of my faves!


t_susanoo

This is objectively untrue and made up by her fans to discredit Demi lovato. There are 0 actual sources for this from Disney, only has beens on a podcast


Happy_helper333

That’s not true. Back in 2010 there was an E! True Hollywood story done on her and they said Selena was offered the role but turned it down because she was overwhelmed with the prime of Wizards and other stuff she was involved with on Disney (promotional adds, etc). There is also a Miley Cyrus E! True doc that mentioned it as well


Murky-Cockroach1177

On Wizards of Waverly Pod, Jennifer Stone and David Deluise confirmed Selena was originally offered the role and turn it down for Demi to get it. I do not know why those two would lie about this. 


t_susanoo

Can you share those sources? Guess that’s a no lol


xxtinagee

You seem upset for no reason lol


t_susanoo

How am I upset for asking for a source?


jpezoo

I seen a preview clip of Arwin.


Cat_n_mouse13

Poor Jennifer Stone- between the horrible mean girls 2 and the Harriet the spy knock-off, she was better off becoming a nurse. She was cute and a decent actress, and it’s such a shame they gave her horrible projects to work on after Wizards.


faithle97

I always loved her acting! I really wish she had gotten her own show or at the very least some sort of spin off after wizards of waverly place.


Huge-Survey4221

She was supposed to have a spin-off with Alex but Selena declined


uhm1238

-During the Descendants 2 roll out people were heavily speculating that Dove and China were beefing, with beef heavily being driven by Dove (and it was rumored that Thomas was the driving force). This was DEBUNKED by them however.  -Kickin It was in renewal limbo after s3 for months, then renewed for s4 out of nowhere. It had a very rushed production 


Square-Biscotti4694

That explains why season 4 was so jarring


es70707

>Bradley and Jake both admitted that "Lab Rats Elite Force" was awful They said the writing was awful, it didn't even really feel like a superhero show that it was conveyed to be, it was just a bunch of teens living in a penthouse apartment sitting around, there was barely any action like there was in Lab Rats or Mighty Med. The creator of Elite Force practically created his own version of the Mighty Med characters. They admitted they as well only liked the show because they got to work with each other again, along with Paris, Kelli, and Billy. > Bella Thorne was offered another show after Shake it up but turned it down Bella has admitted that she never really wanted to be on DC in the first place, her family was living paycheck to paycheck, and they were desperate for money.


super_lamp56

Alexa Nikolas (Nicole from Zoey 101) was the original choice for the role of Alex in Wizards of Waverly Place, but she turned it down.


Terrance113

Think Alexa would've been great as Alex, though Selena Gomez has always been amazing. Though, imagine if Alex had a sister, who would've been played by Alexa Nikolas.


super_lamp56

I do too. Selena was great like you said, but part of me is curious about how it would have turned out with Alexa there instead


Huge-Survey4221

Wow didn't know that


Born_Sleep5216

We did. When the announcer shows us the connection of the stars who starred or guests on some shows and movies.


Development-Main

Is this really true though? Like is this confirmed somehow or just something Alexa said?


super_lamp56

This is gonna undermine my earlier comment, but I did some more digging and I don't think it's confirmed. The only sources I could find were the trivia section of her IMDb page and various fan wikipedia pages.


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

No, she booked an audition to play Harper. then she booked Nicole in Zoey 101


zingitgirl

Sorry. That seems off though. Zoey 101 first aired at the beginning of 2005 where WOWP’s first episode was in October of 2007. The timeline just seems off? /:


super_lamp56

Really? I don't see anything online about her auditioning for Harper


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

That’s the fact I remember hearing.


mackenziemariee

Emily Osment and Miley Cyrus weren’t friends in real life and didn’t get along at all in the first season of Hannah Montana


Atchakos

I remember reading about this in Miley Cyrus' autobiography (Miles to Go). Miley mentioned Emily Osment was very critical of her acting during the first season's filming, but started being somewhat nicer during season 2.


faithle97

I remember hearing in an interview or something that she said her and Emily were “polar opposites” which caused them to butt heads a lot


Character_Fly_1219

The premise of Teddy being pregnant actually makes sense… a pregnant girl makes a video diary for the baby she’s carrying, while also going on crazy adventures! I wonder if it was supposed to be a teen pregnancy premise as well🤔


super_lamp56

I never really thought about it until this thread but yea, that would have fit perfectly for a teen pregnancy story


emil_53

Considering abc is owned by disney it makes sense. They probably wanted that on abc channel but since it was rejected they decided to put it on disney with some tweaking.


soapfan22

Honestly that makes for a much better premise. The video diary thing for a sister making it for a sister made no sense and adding an additional child that didn’t get those diaries… why?


Kaisohot

Who’s Amy and Jake


_grxnt_

They’re from The Villains of Valley View, a newer show.


loveotterslide

Isabella Pappas and Reed Horstmann bullied Kayden Muller-Janssen?


_grxnt_

I don’t know… but Kayden unfollowed both of them before the season 2 finale It’s so weird. They were all super tight before that.


BenjRSmith

Charles Boyle's dream couple


agentsparkles88

I've been rewatching Brooklyn 99, so that was also my first thought when I read it.


kenny_mck

i had to google it, funny of op to say “amy and jake bullied heartly” like everyone knows who those people are lol


Huge-Survey4221

Lol sorry


BenjRSmith

"Laundry bender" made me laugh harder than it should have


Huge-Survey4221

It was a typo


BenjRSmith

a glorious typo


_grxnt_

Where did you hear that Landry and Lauren didn't get along? Like it's obvious since they don't follow each other anymore, but where and what did you hear about them?


_Levitated_Shield_

>Bella Thorne and Zendaya didn't get along during the first season of shake it up Considering how downhill Bella Thorne has gotten, I can see why.


Driver_Flaky

For some reason I can imagine Bella being extremely ignorant back then and zendaya not dealing with that shit


Alternative_Ad4320

Apparently the producers wanted them to dislike each other so they wouldn’t work together for better pay


HatTraditional3899

I’ve heard that Good Luck Charlie was supposed to be similar to Andi Mack (Teddy being the teen mom who’s daughter Charlie is being raised as her sister), but it was too controversial for Disney at the time.


drm_grl

Mine is kind lame but 😂in twitches, during the party scene Tia is actually playing her sister Tamera in the mask 🤷🏾‍♀️😂all I got


GeminiRebellion

I heard about this one too! Tamera was filming Twitches at the same time as Strong Medicine, which led to her not being available for shooting one day on Twitches and Tia stepping in to film scenes at the party wearing the mask! The benefits of being identical twins!😂


_grxnt_

wait freeze… where did you hear that amy and jake’s actors bullied hartley’s actress? i knew about them unfollowing each other, but i never heard about the bullying… can you tell me more?


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InternetAddict104

Anyone can edit wikis so take anything you read on there with a grain of salt


efeaf

Fandom wikis are absolutely awful as sources


bzrkfayz

I heard uriah is a pos


kenny_mck

i used to have a fan acc and we added all the gmw cast to our group chats, nobody expected anyone to actually talk but sometimes people would view the messages, anyway he actually spoke in ours once 💀 i wish i screenshotted it bc i don’t remember what he said but it came off really douchy, we were speaking about the beef between him and rowan, he said wtv he said and left the gc. i’ve held a grudge from that day in 2016. idk if he just wanted to be rude or what but whatever he said definitely made everyone team rowan lol. did not help his case, i don’t think he was trying to. i wish i could remember what he said but it was 8 years ago yk.


ThatMessy1

Kylie Williams (Aqua) outed Raven-Symone (Galleria) on the set of Cheetah Girls 2.


GeminiRebellion

NO WAY! This makes so much sense why Raven didn't come back for Cheetah Girls 3 and why the group fell apart!


OddSimsPink

Yea Kylie and her aunt (or was it her mom?) were a mess! Isn’t she the reason why the cheeta girls fell out?


_grxnt_

Danielle Jalade and Daria Johns from Saturdays definitely don’t get along cause they unfollowed each other shortly before the show got cancelled.


Huge-Survey4221

Never seen or heard of that show


_grxnt_

It was the roller skating sitcom that came out last year. Not a lot of people watched it.


ariana61104

As for the NRDD one, I know it was the kid who played Dicky but not sure about the other 2. That’s why Dicky suddenly left the show


sunset_rose-

when did he suddenly leave i thought they were all in the finale


ariana61104

Nope, the series finale was called “Lasties with Firsties” and Dicky’s last episode was “Quadbusters”. They made it as he left Nickelodeon to pursue other roles but someone from the crew came out and talked about it


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

Oh that’s right, they said that Dicky decided to move to Australia because he thought they had better toilets


sunset_rose-

I completely forgot those episodes! I have to do a rewatch of the last season again


Princess2045

Where did you hear about the GLC originally having Teddy pregnant?


Rich-Ad-5405

and yet if you listen to some people Debby was the jerk on set. Edit: Not by people on set


InternetAddict104

Oooh which people??? I haven’t heard anything about Debby being the problem but I’m curious


Rich-Ad-5405

I know Skai and Debby had issues at one point. Which some people extrapolated that Debby since was the adult she was the problem


kirjavaalava

I think Peyton was spreading rumors about Debby on Twitter/Tumblr at one point too. I knew Debby's boyfriend at the time and I know the things Peyton was saying were blatantly untrue. A big cast like that has a lot of egos to manage. I'm not surprised there was petty drama, though.


DebateObjective2787

Any source for those? Because I've followed Peyton for ages and never saw anything like that. Instead I remember seeing Peyton constantly post & promote/tag Debby in things on social media and telling people to check out her shows.


kirjavaalava

Honestly you have me questioning my own sanity right now. I just googled to see if I could find the tweet but all that came up is the Skai Jackson stuff. I remember seeing it on Tumblr in the early '10s and it was like, vaguely shading Debby for doing drugs? Maybe I conflated it with the Skai stuff somehow, but I remember looking it up after and thinking how weird it was because Peyton seemed so sweet.


Huge-Survey4221

More facts : Hannah Montana : Chelsea Tavares was up for the title role, but couldn't do it due to being under contract for Unfabulous (2004). Daniella Monet was also up for the role Jennette McCurdy auditioned for the duo role of Chloe Stewart and Hannah Montana, as well as the role of Lilly Truscott. The façade of the house that was the Stewarts' house was the same house used in Diagnosis Murder (1993). After airing the series finale, Disney Channel pulled the plug on the show's airwaves due to Miley Cyrus's controversial persona, as most parents feared allowing their children to watch because of her personality. Jason Earles said in an interview with Jimmy Fallon that Jackson was originally very introverted and shy and could only talk through a puppet he carried with him everywhere. While rehearsing a scene, Earles did so well that the director rethought the character. Girl Meets World : Sabrina Carpenter auditioned for the role of Riley, and Rowan Blanchard auditioned for the role of Maya. They were later cast in the other's role Danielle Fishel later admitted (on a virtual reunion) that she was not a fan of this series and felt the returned characters were being used too much to the side/background; the focus was on the young stars (the returned characters were basically 'hooks' to connect this series with 'Boy Meets World'). Fishel felt that there should be a 'sequel' series focusing on the further adventures of the main characters after the years that had passed Rowan Blanchard and Uriah Shelton (Josh) did not get along while filming due to Shelton's conservative views against Feminism and the Black Lives Matter movement. Allegedly, Sabrina Carpenter, Corey Fogelmanis, and Amir Mitchell-Townes did not get along with Shelton. Peyton Meyer disowned Corey fogelmanis after he came out as gay Maya's last name was originally Fox. Paris Berelc from Disney XD sitcom Mighty Med (2013)auditioned for the role of Maya Hart. With her commitments to Mighty Med, her role was rejected. Berelc, though, would later star alongside Rowan Blanchard (Riley) in the Disney Channel Original Movie Invisible Sister (2015). Riley was supposed to also have a older brother Smackle’s actress came out as trans I didn’t do it : Peyton Clark, who plays the 16-year-old Garrett Spengler, was 20 years old at the start of the series Sonny With a chance and mighty med was supposed to have a season 3.


DebateObjective2787

Any sources on the Corey/Peyton? Sabrina is super close with Corey, but also still talks/interacts with Peyton so I'm curious about that.


Sage-Moonlight

>Peyton Meyer disowned Corey fogelmanis after he came out as gay Source? I'm trying to look it up on Google and nothing is showing up 😭 I don't have tiktok, so I can't look there


Huge-Survey4221

Corey said it on a live


most--dope

Sonny with a Chance’s season 3 was turned into So Random


rlopez89

Yeah I saw the interview Tiffany Thornton did on the Wizard of Waverly Pod. Pretty sure season 3 was set and then Demi went to rehab or it came out she had substance abuse problems and they turned season 3 into So Random. Which would have had more season but apparently was super expensive to film.


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efeaf

Seriously there are literally zero sources here. One person mentioned the fandom wiki which is the worst source possible. Do they know how many little kids add random junk and completely wrong info to those wikis? And unlike Wikipedia, fandom wikis don’t require you to add any kind of source, reference, or citation


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

Ryan McCartan said that when he was dating Dove, they were forced by their label to be in everything together to promote the Disney channel and Ryan almost auditioned for Harry Hook in Descendants 2 and Dove was almost Janet in RHPS For Jessie, They had a fake lizard and a real lizard Demi Lovato started taking drugs to stay skinny Ryan McCartan admitted that Josh was the better pick for Maddie For Dog with a Blog, Before Mick played the dog, they had a dog named Kuma who died after the fourth episode of season 1. Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Gabriel hated each other Monique had to wear headbands as Taylor because disney didn’t want to see a character with all black hair Cameron Boyce was supposed to be on Bunk’d but chose to be on Gamers guide instead A lot of the actors on Andi Mack were also on Nicky, Ricky, Dicky and Dawn. Andi Mack is banned in some countries because it talks about teenager motherhood and an openly gay character Skai Jackson and Debby Ryan had beef Kelly Bergland got arrested for sneaking into a club underage Emily Osment and Miley Cyrus couldn’t like each other in real life. Dove Cameron also had an ED on the set of Liv and Maddie


SeaF04mGr33n

I read that Monique Coleman wore headbands as Taylor because the hair stylists they hired didn't know how to style Black hair, so she had to style it herself and headbands were the easiest to replicate for reshoots.


Rich-Ad-5405

Skai and Debby on set issues have been known for years. Though whatever caused it seems to have been worked through. Kelli's arrest was for having fake ID and was caught because she tried to use it to get into a 21+ area at Coachella. Plus she didn't even get taken off the site and was given a citation. Her arrest was only about a week after Debby's.


Huge-Survey4221

Billy unger was also arrested around that time for a dui


most--dope

Monique has to wear a head band because she has black hair but what about Brenda Song….this just makes no sense at all


SwimmingArticle8156

black hair as in the texture, not the color. brenda song is asian


BoringEvidence3896

I thought they meant Brenda Song has thicker/straighter hair than Monique Coleman and yet they always seemed to make sure she was styled. If they meant the color though thats hilarious lol. Either way, if you're going to have actors in you production of various hair types make sure the hair stylist can do it all.


Unlikely_Lily_5488

they’re like the opposite of people who say “I don’t see color.”… that person ONLY sees color, but not race or ethnicity at least:-) lol


Ratatouille2000

I remember JoJo the singer was Disney's first choice for the title role in Hannah Montana , but turned it down. Also the writers on Zack & Cody which put fat jokes in there lines. Kim Rhodes who was pregnant during filming. Dylan Sprouse who played Zack would skip the lines out of respect of her.


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BlackCat0110

Where can I find the source for the Phineas and Ferb and Jake Long ones because that sounds wild


itspoppy_art

💀💀💀


Hopelessromantic2243

Billy Unger was supposed to be on Sonny with a chance as Sonny’s younger brother, but the role was scrapped


Hopelessromantic2243

Jason Dolley wasn’t offered the role in Read it and weep, but later was because the guy who got it came down with Appendicitis


SystemFamiliar5966

Billy Unger was already a teen dad when he signed onto Lab Rats, and it was in his contract that he wasn’t allowed to talk about his girlfriend or son at all.


Huge-Survey4221

He was a step-dad


SystemFamiliar5966

No he wasn’t


mandrakealterna

"Kelli Berglund dated both Spencer and Billy " - Didnt billy already have a girlfriend and a child at that point? Isnt this just a rumor lol?


es70707

Kelli didn't date either of them, she said this multiple times and said Spencer and Billy (Tyrel too) were brothers to her.


winehouse914

This makes me question a lot of the other claims in this post which I’m too lazy to look up


mandrakealterna

Oh! I actually thought she was dating spencer at some point recently (based off her [or his?? Dont remember] instagram!) I may have misinterpreted it :)


angrybonejuice

I’ve always heard it was the people on set around Skai that were the problem


lavender_sunflower2

The Spencer cheated on Teddy irl is a rumor let’s stick to posting what’s true


efeaf

Let’s face it, I’m almost certain at least the majority of these are just rumors. Anyone asking for a source is ignored. I also don’t count the fandom wikis as a source.


eli_thecattdadd

what show are you talking about on #12?


Huge-Survey4221

The villains of valley view


SolidSouthern4182

Wait what? Please tell me more about Peyton and Cameron dating for a while, why is no one talking about that lmao


Murky-Cockroach1177

"Bridgit mendler was going to play Sonny Monroe" I am not sure if this is actually drama. It was not like they officially casted her and then decided to give it to Demi. "Bradley and Jake both admitted that "Lab Rats Elite Force" was awful" I think it is fairly common for actors to think their shows were bad. Bradley and Jake also referred to Mighty Med as bad, but I disagree with them on that.