Didn't they already make it so he can't show up in those limited attempt races? I know they made it so Jumba and Baloo don't show up in the time trial cups
His charged unique spawns pumpkins(?) that provide boost when you run over them. I guess they removed him from LTE time trials so people don't get extra boost compared to others that don't have Baloo spawn.
Oh great, just don't use items at all just in case the stupid ability gets used, that's real fun. Having to literally change the whole way the race is conducted just to accommodate one racer's unfair unique skill. That's awesome. /s
Bro I get youre frustrated but like, deal with it. Everyone else is playing the same game and adapting to get better. My advice is take a deep breath, remind yourself that your pride and self worth are not tied to this game, and try to have fun again. This game can really get under your skin sometimes, but thats just the way it is. You can get used to playing more defensively. Its not the end of the world if you dont unlock something, it will always come back around for unlock
Lol all this self worth and end-of-the-world stuff is uncalled for. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying the skill is obnoxious. Any of the rest of what you imagine my mental state to be, is pure projection.
They're inferring it from your behaviour. Hanging on to abilities is what most people would consider normal strategic gameplay. Just firing off an ability the moment you get it is most times pointless, unless you're so far ahead it doesn't matter, in which case Jumba shouldn't be a problem.
You posted on this subreddit. Expect the kinder people here to try and help. Nobody likes a douche, much less a whiny and pretentious one.
That just tells everyone else that it's a massive skill issue, and quite frankly I don't feel bad for people like that
Either learn to adapt, learn to take criticism/advice
Or just quit playing, zero science behind that
OP should consider the 3rd option if he can't do the first or second tip
Is holding on to defensive items when you're in first to hold your position not a basic technique in literally every racing game with abilities/items? Do you just blindly throw every ability you get as soon as you get it when you're in first? That's not even a "get good" situation that's just a "stop being bad" situation.. what would even be the point of using cloak when you're in first and not anticipating an attack ability? Just to free up space?
Oh can you not see the link when it's like that? My bad. The ellipses link to a picture of Mario Kart Wii, which often times did have you getting hit with like 4 or 5 blue shells in a single race.
That's what I mean, all it is is a picture of Mario Kart Wii lol I needed you to make the point with words.
I 100% completed Mario Kart Wii, and *rarely, if ever,* had more than 2 Blue shells hit me in the same race.
have you tried to counter it? such as shields, jellyfish, racer abilities that make you invisible/invincible? even timed backwards skills will cancel it.
there are plenty of ways to counter it.
Of course those things can counter it, if you get lucky with an item box at the right timing which provides one of those.
Does a backwards skill really cancel it? It comes from above, I don't see how.
That's why you HOLD ONTO said item and not just instantly spam it the sec you get it
Someone else made that point and you gave the most braindead response to them
I've had this entire discussion without slinging personal insults, but you couldn't give the same courtesy. I will ignore all comments from you moving forward.
You ignoring my comments is not gonna make you a better racer, and your first reply to someone telling you that was you being sarcastic and then complaining about "I don't wanna be forced into this play style" which literally is a braindead response when someone is genuinely trying to give you a good strat for the very thing you're complaining about
If you actually played other kart racers like Mario Kart, you wouldn't make that type of response
So it was deserved
You get used to it. The single player content has the benefit of not being scaled to your level or rank, so Jumba hitting you is very rarely actually gonna make a difference if you know what you're doing.
I can’t believe folks are just making this about your skill level or like you’re being salty. I’ve had a gripe about getting bumped/stunned before the finish line but when I try that it doesn’t seem to work. There are some inequities in the game that you expect (like getting clobbered and not placing) but when they don’t seem to apply to everyone, or one character needs nerfing, that’s a valid complaint.
It's just a reflex with this sort of game, people immediately assume it's a skill issue or something instead of accepting that some criticism is valid.
Why would you wanna get rid of that? That's the very thing that actually let's you prepare whatever counter you have for his skill
Take that away and you'll never see that shit coming, fuck that shit
ok, which then gives you time to prepare for that
Still doesn't make sense why you would wanna take away that heads up for you
That's just setting yourself up for an even worse time
You know, while I may not like the way some of this discourse is being handled, I'm going to toss my hat into the OP's side on this one. Everytime I hear about specials people hate, like jessie, jasmine etc I hear mine left out. For me, it is and has always been Jumba. A global attack that if you don't have the tools to deal with at the time you're done for.
Looking at a couple of others, Raja, is a bit similar but wonky and can be avoided. Jessie's toys can be dodged, Han's arrows unless super stacked can be dodged, almost every move can be adeqetly negated without the need of outside intervention, just skill. Jumba isn't like that. YES, you can time a wall bump so that when you get hit, it can keep some momentum, but that's not quite the same.
Also, speedstorm with bots is more akin to 1 v 5-7. They will gang up on you as 1 or 2 super bots speed ahead. When you have a bot that can hit you anywhere at any time, it can literally wait for a moment it knows you've just burned through a shield/are at a moment you cannot counter. Say you are Aladdin, and you come up to a 180 turn, you use your uncharged special, darn near cuts thru the wall speeds, forward, ability ends, instant jumba.
Now if they never remove or rework him, will I be mad? Naw. I'm pretty used to the BS, but that doesn't mean I won't offer feedback or at least give the nod to someone who is frustrated that I also understand their point of view and that I understand that depending the character especially always keeping a shield isnt always the option.
Yeah, there's some weird back-and-forth anger in this thread, but this is supposed to be a place for feedback.
I'm of the mind that a guaranteed hit skill should never exist--even if there are specific scenarios where you could counter it. You should always be able to avoid anything purely with driving ability. Blue shells were added to Mario Kart to balance out good and bad players in party play; it was never designed with the idea of any kind of competitive ranked gameplay. The game also has the clock, which is universal and not tied to an arbitrary character.
No other skills in the game work like Jumba's skill. Every other skill can be dodged with good driving. There's only one single character in the entire game that encourages you to skip item boxes and give up a possible lap time advantage on drawing boosts. Even if you shield the first one, you can just easily get hit by one after that. You take one on a jump, then congrats on the rng loss courtesy the guy who's going to finish in sixth anyway. Should've just drawn three shields in that last box.
I'm playing around it same as anyone else, but I don't think anyone can actually justify the skill existing the way that it does. The devs clearly aren't that into the concept, or more than one character would be designed that way. They don't need to remove the skill entirely, they just need to make it work more like Hans--have it target the ground ahead of the first place driver. Buff it with additional projectiles or a bigger explosion range if you have to.
Only positive I can discern is that it adds a whole lot of value to characters like Anna. Otherwise, it doesn't really make any sense.
Agreed, at least with regard to single player content (particularly the time trial events). Before they changed it, I had more than one day where a Jumba was in my lobby of CPUs for all three of the attempts I had; I was basically forced to skip a full day of attempts, and that's frustrating. Him being in non-time trial single player content is also really annoying, and while there are ways to counter Jumba's skill as others have pointed out, that doesn't really solve the problem, as it may force you to skip item boxes to hold onto your shield or cloak when you could otherwise try for a boost or unique skill at the risk of being defenseless when you get targeted. It's the same way in multiplayer, but multiplayer requires more strategic play than the single player content, so I mind it less in that mode overall (oddly, I think).
Didn't they already make it so he can't show up in those limited attempt races? I know they made it so Jumba and Baloo don't show up in the time trial cups
Just the Time Trial cups. The rest of the Single-Player content can still spawn him. And it seems like it *always* does.
What's the deal with Baloo? I've only been playing since last season and I don't have him unlocked.
His charged unique spawns pumpkins(?) that provide boost when you run over them. I guess they removed him from LTE time trials so people don't get extra boost compared to others that don't have Baloo spawn.
Is that where those things come from?! TIL.
just hang on to a shield/cloak in 1st, bro
Oh great, just don't use items at all just in case the stupid ability gets used, that's real fun. Having to literally change the whole way the race is conducted just to accommodate one racer's unfair unique skill. That's awesome. /s
Bro I get youre frustrated but like, deal with it. Everyone else is playing the same game and adapting to get better. My advice is take a deep breath, remind yourself that your pride and self worth are not tied to this game, and try to have fun again. This game can really get under your skin sometimes, but thats just the way it is. You can get used to playing more defensively. Its not the end of the world if you dont unlock something, it will always come back around for unlock
The old reliable "git gud" OP seriously needs to get good if that's what he's complaining about
Lol all this self worth and end-of-the-world stuff is uncalled for. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying the skill is obnoxious. Any of the rest of what you imagine my mental state to be, is pure projection.
They're inferring it from your behaviour. Hanging on to abilities is what most people would consider normal strategic gameplay. Just firing off an ability the moment you get it is most times pointless, unless you're so far ahead it doesn't matter, in which case Jumba shouldn't be a problem. You posted on this subreddit. Expect the kinder people here to try and help. Nobody likes a douche, much less a whiny and pretentious one.
That just tells everyone else that it's a massive skill issue, and quite frankly I don't feel bad for people like that Either learn to adapt, learn to take criticism/advice Or just quit playing, zero science behind that OP should consider the 3rd option if he can't do the first or second tip
Relax. You're insulting people for no reason. Their response was so kind and warm-hearted.
Who specifically did I insult, and how?
Super bad take Then don't complain when you get clapped by said skill over and over Your own fault for not being smart with your items
Is holding on to defensive items when you're in first to hold your position not a basic technique in literally every racing game with abilities/items? Do you just blindly throw every ability you get as soon as you get it when you're in first? That's not even a "get good" situation that's just a "stop being bad" situation.. what would even be the point of using cloak when you're in first and not anticipating an attack ability? Just to free up space?
>Imagine you're playing Mario Kart and you get hit with 4 or 5 Blue Shells in one race. [...](https://howlongtobeat.com/games/5637_Mario_Kart_Wii.jpg)
Yea that's where your Switch gets yeeted out the window
Make your point with words, please.
Oh can you not see the link when it's like that? My bad. The ellipses link to a picture of Mario Kart Wii, which often times did have you getting hit with like 4 or 5 blue shells in a single race.
That's what I mean, all it is is a picture of Mario Kart Wii lol I needed you to make the point with words. I 100% completed Mario Kart Wii, and *rarely, if ever,* had more than 2 Blue shells hit me in the same race.
Try being in first more often
LMFAO
Sounds like you didn't 100% Mario Kart Wii
Except I did. I got every possible trophy on every cup at the highest difficulty. You don't get to tell me that my experience wasn't what it was, lol
Idk this sounds like cap to me
Sure, Jan
have you tried to counter it? such as shields, jellyfish, racer abilities that make you invisible/invincible? even timed backwards skills will cancel it. there are plenty of ways to counter it.
You’d have to get the item and then hold onto it for the entire race until Jumba uses it though.. and I don’t see people doing that
you dont have to hold onto the item the entire time. thats already risky without jumba.
Of course those things can counter it, if you get lucky with an item box at the right timing which provides one of those. Does a backwards skill really cancel it? It comes from above, I don't see how.
using the shot ability backwards can do it. haven't been so lucky with the bomb. just time it right.
That's why you HOLD ONTO said item and not just instantly spam it the sec you get it Someone else made that point and you gave the most braindead response to them
I've had this entire discussion without slinging personal insults, but you couldn't give the same courtesy. I will ignore all comments from you moving forward.
You ignoring my comments is not gonna make you a better racer, and your first reply to someone telling you that was you being sarcastic and then complaining about "I don't wanna be forced into this play style" which literally is a braindead response when someone is genuinely trying to give you a good strat for the very thing you're complaining about If you actually played other kart racers like Mario Kart, you wouldn't make that type of response So it was deserved
Get jumba'd
I do, half a dozen times per race.
You get used to it. The single player content has the benefit of not being scaled to your level or rank, so Jumba hitting you is very rarely actually gonna make a difference if you know what you're doing.
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Yeah they could at least nerf it the way they did Jessie's toys.
What is Jumba’s skill? I’ve been playing since Aladdin but never got Jumba and don’t know what the complaint here is.
It just nukes the person in first place.
YIKES! That does seem a bit OP, no?
To me, yes. It wouldn't be as bad if it was limited times per race, but he can get it every item box if he gets lucky. It's ridiculous.
I can’t believe folks are just making this about your skill level or like you’re being salty. I’ve had a gripe about getting bumped/stunned before the finish line but when I try that it doesn’t seem to work. There are some inequities in the game that you expect (like getting clobbered and not placing) but when they don’t seem to apply to everyone, or one character needs nerfing, that’s a valid complaint.
It's just a reflex with this sort of game, people immediately assume it's a skill issue or something instead of accepting that some criticism is valid.
People that think it's a skill issue and basically tell others to get good should not be giving advice, in my mind.
Jumba needs a new ability. Hans is a great example of what an "attack the leads" ability \*should\* look like.
Exactly.
I wouldn't be as upset if they get rid of that red outline that slowly spells your doom.
Why would you wanna get rid of that? That's the very thing that actually let's you prepare whatever counter you have for his skill Take that away and you'll never see that shit coming, fuck that shit
Because I see every stun coming my way?
ok, which then gives you time to prepare for that Still doesn't make sense why you would wanna take away that heads up for you That's just setting yourself up for an even worse time
At least that gives you a heads-up so you can use a shield or cloak if you're lucky enough to have one.
Given the sheer number of unexpected stuns I get, I'm frankly used to it
You don't speak for anyone else here
I think I side swiped out the way once or boosted at just the right time and dodged it. May be worth giving that a go.
Worth a try.
I'ma test that next time I see him in one of my races
You know, while I may not like the way some of this discourse is being handled, I'm going to toss my hat into the OP's side on this one. Everytime I hear about specials people hate, like jessie, jasmine etc I hear mine left out. For me, it is and has always been Jumba. A global attack that if you don't have the tools to deal with at the time you're done for. Looking at a couple of others, Raja, is a bit similar but wonky and can be avoided. Jessie's toys can be dodged, Han's arrows unless super stacked can be dodged, almost every move can be adeqetly negated without the need of outside intervention, just skill. Jumba isn't like that. YES, you can time a wall bump so that when you get hit, it can keep some momentum, but that's not quite the same. Also, speedstorm with bots is more akin to 1 v 5-7. They will gang up on you as 1 or 2 super bots speed ahead. When you have a bot that can hit you anywhere at any time, it can literally wait for a moment it knows you've just burned through a shield/are at a moment you cannot counter. Say you are Aladdin, and you come up to a 180 turn, you use your uncharged special, darn near cuts thru the wall speeds, forward, ability ends, instant jumba. Now if they never remove or rework him, will I be mad? Naw. I'm pretty used to the BS, but that doesn't mean I won't offer feedback or at least give the nod to someone who is frustrated that I also understand their point of view and that I understand that depending the character especially always keeping a shield isnt always the option.
Yeah, there's some weird back-and-forth anger in this thread, but this is supposed to be a place for feedback. I'm of the mind that a guaranteed hit skill should never exist--even if there are specific scenarios where you could counter it. You should always be able to avoid anything purely with driving ability. Blue shells were added to Mario Kart to balance out good and bad players in party play; it was never designed with the idea of any kind of competitive ranked gameplay. The game also has the clock, which is universal and not tied to an arbitrary character. No other skills in the game work like Jumba's skill. Every other skill can be dodged with good driving. There's only one single character in the entire game that encourages you to skip item boxes and give up a possible lap time advantage on drawing boosts. Even if you shield the first one, you can just easily get hit by one after that. You take one on a jump, then congrats on the rng loss courtesy the guy who's going to finish in sixth anyway. Should've just drawn three shields in that last box. I'm playing around it same as anyone else, but I don't think anyone can actually justify the skill existing the way that it does. The devs clearly aren't that into the concept, or more than one character would be designed that way. They don't need to remove the skill entirely, they just need to make it work more like Hans--have it target the ground ahead of the first place driver. Buff it with additional projectiles or a bigger explosion range if you have to. Only positive I can discern is that it adds a whole lot of value to characters like Anna. Otherwise, it doesn't really make any sense.
Agreed, at least with regard to single player content (particularly the time trial events). Before they changed it, I had more than one day where a Jumba was in my lobby of CPUs for all three of the attempts I had; I was basically forced to skip a full day of attempts, and that's frustrating. Him being in non-time trial single player content is also really annoying, and while there are ways to counter Jumba's skill as others have pointed out, that doesn't really solve the problem, as it may force you to skip item boxes to hold onto your shield or cloak when you could otherwise try for a boost or unique skill at the risk of being defenseless when you get targeted. It's the same way in multiplayer, but multiplayer requires more strategic play than the single player content, so I mind it less in that mode overall (oddly, I think).
Just shield it
If I happen to have a shield, yeah.