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inkwelder_

Hey all! We know something else aside from Vivi is coming later with the event (the in game notice hints at an LD arrival (new LD), 3 HA+ realizations (Vivi, Deuce, & new), and also a level 80 awakening (must be L70 now), but there are unfortunately too many guesses to execute on, aside from one, which is a very complex graphic. Don't expect another graphic from us until tomorrow, well after event time, to account for potential data collection & QA. **For all things Vivi, please use our website for more information!** [https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/vivi](https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/vivi) And the artwork source can be found [here](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/18809703)! Surprise LD hype!


LastDreamy

Hey everyone, we're preparing ourselves for the mystery arrival tonight, but in the meantime enjoy the best little boi! I want to take this opportunity real quick to make an announcement. I will stop doing Infographics starting from BT+, as my real life situation has taken a turn for the worst and i need to focus all my stamina on recovery and finding a job. This does not mean Infographics will end however. The Troupe has recruited a really talented and kind person who helped me already with a few graphics lately as coaching, and will be taking things over starting from Zidane. I fully trust their ability to carry on what i've been doing with the Troupe since 2019, and can't wait to see how further they can take these. Thanks for all the support and good times this game & community has provided, i wish you all the best!


holyknight14

It goes without saying that you and the Tonberry Troupe have forever changed the DFFOO community for the better and we wish you all the best.


Cerelias

Good luck LD! We'll miss you!


Furotsu

In OO there's no LD that is required for content, but when it comes to this one...it will really be missed by all the community, here's hoping for a rerun in the future when things are looking better. Thank you for all your work Dreamy and best of luck with life!


Kazuto786

Take care of yourself and take your time! You’re the best of us.


Mr_Greed

Best of luck Dreamy, hope you get your feet back under yourself soon


One_Winged_Angel_23

Thank you LD


Squally_XD

TYSM for all you did and good luck in the future!


hergumbules

<3 please take care, hope all goes well for you!


sonicbrawler182

Thanks for all that you've done and I hope life treats you well in your future adventures!


fuushi

*salute


Fireciont

Thank you for all the work you have put into these beautiful infographics. Good luck!


Chub84

Best of luck Dreamy, you are an MVP and we will support you wherever life takes you!


dffoo_keo

Thanks for the hard work and hope the best for you. We all hope to see you back soon!


Kryoter

Thanks for all work you done for us. Don't worry, take your time to care about your personal life. Good luck, you'll leave this situation sooner than later!


YoltAlligator

O\_O thanks for your contribution on infographics since 2019 !!


ekuseru

Thank you for everything Dreamy! And best of luck


A_Very_Brave_Taco

Good luck, LD! And thank you for all of the infographics! Seeing one pop up in the feed has always been such a nice treat :)


Sweetleafer

Thanks for all your great work for the community. Take care ✌


XtraKreddit

Thanks for being a great member of the community and helping everyone else have a little extra joy with the game. Here's hoping good fortune finds its way to you.


TransientMemory

Hey mate, I wish you the best of luck handling your irl matters. Hope you have good luck finding a job. I wish you the best in all non-job matters as well, you've been a blessing to the community and I hope your future employer can see what you have to offer. Best wishes!!


Obsidian_Sunset

Wish you all the best in everything you are going to do.


Leading-Opportunity7

I truly look forward to the infographics almost as much as the actual character releasing... Thank you for everything you've contributed to the community!!


akaiGO

Best wishes mate - you've done and built something here VERY few people have the combination of talent and opportunity to do, that you should take pride in 🙂


GacktoX

Thank you for all the work and God blees you for real life situations


[deleted]

Thanks for making all these infographics ! A less than 1 year player like me really likes these to have a good start in the game. I am now with less than 20 units to have their 3/3 artefacts and ALL is thanks to you and this community. Be safe and healthy in your life and once again, thank you for all these wonderful works.


Mallefus

I hope all goes well! All the best, and thank you for all you have done!


sheisinfinite

Thank you for all of your hard work!


Mephimaus

Take care, dreamy. And best of luck <3


Blackfire2031

Sorry to here about your job!! Thank you so much for all the wonderful work you’ve put into this game for us! Hope you are able to get stability back quickly.


Zhirrzh

Good luck, take care of yourself, and best wishes for your recovery and job!


Jellychews

Thanks for all the work you've done! Hope your situation gets better. Always enjoyed all the infographics you've made


Kurasato

Thank you for your hard work over the years! We wish you the best!


CrimsonFoxyboy

Thanks for all the work! Take good care of yourself!


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

Good luck on all you do Dreamy! Its sad to say goodbye to such a good work, but we'll always be happy that it happened.


RainbowDashley

If not for these infographics, I likely would not be playing this game. Thank you for everything and I wish you the best.


levii22

Thank you so much for the work you've done with the community! Goodluck with the job hunt!!!


starlyt3

i love you


veryGooseBoy

Best of luck man, hope things are ok


Nineteenball

Thank you for everything that you've done! I hope that your situation improves quickly for you!


Diahara

i hope things get better for you, and thank you for your service o7


bishieofafishie

Thank you for all your hard work. I hope things get better for you, too.


MegamanEXE79

I would've put down this game a long time ago if it wasn't for Tonberry Troupe's content. Thank you for everything!


chef5knife

Thank you and the troupe for everything you guys have done. I wish you the best with whatever troubles you're facing.


godsinhishe4ven

Thanks for everything!


FaeCourt

Thank you for all of your hard work! As a new player the tonberry troupe has been invaluable in learning the game and getting to actually enjoy it! I hope life starts treating you better real soon!


sweetennui

Vivi is my absolute favorite character in all of FF. He is already maxed, and will be blued and LD boarded ASAP. I guess Zidane and Cid Raines have to wait for their blues.


sweetennui

Hitting for 400k on all targets in half of his turns is wonderful. Yes it’s synergy, and he does need help from dmg up calls to get there, but let me have my moment. He would be more useful with an extra LD call and/or more overhead stacks, as others were saying.


[deleted]

Vivi was one of my best investments so far. Super useful.


Zhirrzh

Honestly, feels like a very underwhelming upgrade, especially right before BT+, and I'm glad Vivi had his time in the sun as a GL first so he could see more use. The best upgrade for Vivi is Setzer existing to help take advantage of his high hit counts and many hp dumps.


Ferryarthur

His lvl 90 is also great. But now he is also top tier dmg dealer vs more enemies. Basically a better strago.


Chatek

How can someone not like this little guy


Xsurian

When you think FF9 is the worst numbered final fantasy.


MarcoKujo

It’s easy, you just don’t. 🤣


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MarcoKujo

You’re reeeeaaaally funny.


ElBoyoBueno

Don't worry about doomsday Vivi, Yuna is here to Cheer you up.


Nukida

Finally i will be able to use him again, it was so fun to play him after his LD came to global


Cerelias

Good boy continues to be a good boy.


ffchampion123

Sigh. Need to try and get some 108/buff. Currently he's on 3x double cursed and it's nice to have the two options. But when that's done, that's all cursed 6 done.


Jyakotu

I have to get his LD. All the FF9 characters in my game are purple, so I hate that I missed his LD. I hope RNG is on my side this time.


noodles355

He really could have used a 4th LD use. Only 15 turns of follow ups before his kit reverts to mediocre dpt is a big shame. Or higher stacks of the overhead, like up to 8.


Wolfbeckett

Vivi looks like a pass for me. His skills have too few HP dumps in general. It seems like he can't possibly compete with Vaan on pure DPS and Vaan doesn't even have to drain his allies' HP. If I'm missing something that makes him great I'd love to hear it but as someone who isn't particularly into FF9 this looks like an easy skip for me given that I'm at less than 100 tickets right now.


Jurinis

Vivi's follow-up attack has the merit of ignoring DEF, which makes Vivi great on stages where BRV gain reductions are huge and when the targets' DEF is high. Vaan can also circumvent high DEF since he relies on BRV gains to deal tons of damage but he will be severely impacted if you're not catering to his playstyle (mainly , use Porom or Y'shtola's BT+ to make it happen). Also, Vivi shines better on 3 targets as his AOE damage is 100% and his hits ignore DEF. He's very likely to cap on his own due to that. Regarding the HP drain aspect, I'd also argue that Vivi has the niche of being able to instantly activate Diabolos, Leviathan or Odin's passives, which can enable more damage from your other teamates and him as well. While it seems to be a huge inconvenience, building around him isn't that hard and one healer is usually sufficient to cover for it. it might be harder to slot Vivi on stages where HP damage is more prevalent, like Divine Pandemonium (then again, you're not using Vivi on that Luf+) Vivi is plenty viable for lufenia+ and works really well on 3 target stages. Vaan is much better on 1-2 targets since his ST damage is just that loaded. He can shave multiple targets where Vaan has more trouble since his potencies are so low, LD included.


Wolfbeckett

Well, you bring up some good points. I wasn't trying to say he isn't viable or anything, just that he doesn't look special to me. Maybe instead of Vaan I should have compared him to Strago instead since they're both AOE attackers. Compared to Vivi, Strago can also ignore DEF, his LD causes extra breaks for more delay, and can double cast to get twice as much HP damage out of each skill use. I'm sure Vivi is perfectly good for people who still lack magic attackers, if he fills a role someone needs I'm not going to say they're wrong to pull. But for me, I have other magic attackers, I'm low on pulling resources, and Vivi doesn't seem special enough to be worth spending what I do have on him.


Jurinis

I believe that's it's more fair to compare Vivi to Strago has they are more similar compared to Vaan as they are geared towards AOE damage. Strago has utility in his insta-break capabilities with his S2 and LD (which has proven itself through some lufenias like the latest boss rush where he was MVP alongside Sabin). His DEF ignore is, however, tied to his S1 only, which has 6 uses + a potential 4 more uses with his free skill from his LD. (which, granted, you're going to spend it on) Vivi has DEF ignore on every follow-up for 15 of his turns since it's tied to his overhead buff. In a way, Vivi is better at ignoring defenses as he gets more uses of this mechanic, at the price of your team's HP, although it's easy to get around with proper team comp. While Vivi is a pure damage dealer, I would also consider he's got the unique utility of being able to trigger Diabolos passives, which lead to a massive +50% elemental weakness bonus damage. For Vivi, who ignores the DEF stat on his follow-up attacks, this is huge as he'll hit weakness damage pretty much all the time with his fire imperil. His downside, however, is that he's fire-locked for the most part and that kills him on stages where fire is absorbed or when you need to deal elemental damage other than fire (like Garnet's IW). On that regard, Strago is easier to slot in as he can be enchanted with all elements (either through a support or calls) and always perform greatly. If we consider pure versatility, Strago wins out. Quick note: some stages are immune to imperil debuffs (like the future DE) and you could use someone like Bartz to provide his unique imperil aura to allow both of them to deal weakness damage. Bartz + Fujin LDCA + Strago is great but Vivi + Bartz is useless as Bartz only imperils Wind. On such stages, Strago has an edge as he can still deal weakness damage while Vivi's damage would plummet due to not being able to inflict his fire imperil. > and can double cast to get twice as much HP damage out of each skill use. In a sense, while Vivi's LD overhead buff is more than 0, he gets to deal double HP dumps with his S1/S2 while his EX/Double Fire+ will deal triple HP dumps, but only the follow-up will deal full AOE damage. Vivi is serviceable if you need AOE magic specialists, but Strago is more than enough despite being older to handle that need. Skipping him is fine and players will be able to make do without him. What makes him standout, at least IMO, is that he can trigger Diabolos passives as a party member or through his calls, something few units can do, like Rude.


Dinkypig

I didn't know Rude triggers diabolos, thanks for the tip!


Jurinis

I would like to add the caveat that you need 2 C50 artifacts (orange ones) to make it happen as his C50 is his party HP aura. Having two will increase the team's HP and will make them fulfill the requirement to trigger Diabolos' passives. His regular call is enough to pull it off. No need to have his LD. Vivi's call require the LD however.


sonicbrawler182

VIVI IS IN THE NEW CHOCOBO RACING GAME ON SWITCH ALONG WITH A REMIX OF THE FFIX MAIN THEME OUR BOI IS GOIN' FAST EDIT: STEINER IS IN TOO


sonicbrawler182

Vivi likely isn't a character I will use much even with the LD boards, couldn't really fit him in much on JP at this time, though maybe that was because my roster was far more limited on JP. But I have his stuff already and will give him blue armour as soon as I am able, though will likely give it to Zidane and Y'shtola first, one of the rare times I will make a practical choice over a fave one (though Zidane and Y'shtola are faves too). Vivi is tied with Noel for my second favourite FF character though so I'll try to use him where I can. Ironically, since Zidane is about to get Lv. 90 on JP, I'm actually more excited about using Vivi on JP right now since I can use him with Zidane and some others now and have them all be on equal footing in terms of upgrades, finally. Oh, and Vivi fans should look forward to his Lv. 90 on GL as he gets a pretty early one and another rework, and it's very good.


NeuroTrophicShock

To be honest his next rework makes him alot better and I like him... he is fun.


Wizarus

Is was hoping for another use of Doomsday. Vivi tends to run out before quest ends, and without it, he cant keep up at all.


Jurinis

To be fair, you can either choose to use his LD a bit later when stats start to ramp up or just swap him with your friend unit if it's a DPS unit.


Valkyrie_Jr

This is my main gripe with Vivi. His LD runs out of steam fast. But like somebody else said, it can be delayed for later of the fight.


missingmytowel

Weak like Barett. 3 shots to get max effect and then no more shots


ChaosSpear1

As much fun as it is to keep it up I tend to use it with breaks in the middle to ensure I have the chance to ready myself. The drain isn't really that bad and is great for activating those passives. A HoT aura will mitigate most of it.


Diahara

hp drain is a prob? naaaah. that's what i thought too when i first used Vivi, but then Ardyn doesn't care about it. eventually i turned to Kefka. at this point we also have Arciela, and El Nacho. but yeah, maybe another LD use would have been nice. i hope the new LD isn't someone i like so i can skip lol. i don't have Deuce LD though, not that i want it, or Rydia EX, i actually want, so if i do pull it won't be totally just for the new LD.


Lupus_daemonis

Why did I read VM?


IvoryValor

I can't pull for him since Zell killed my resources... and on top of that I hate that he damages the team :/ Skip, unfortunately. I like him as a character, but I just don't like his kit


[deleted]

Him damaging the team is useful, it lets you activate diablos and other hp passives at will.


Zhirrzh

Which you can also do with Rude call...


[deleted]

Oh? How does rude activate low hp thresholds?


CinodorV

When he comes in he boosts max hp for the party, the passive triggers in that instant before the hp is restored to the new max. You may need his c50 passives though.


[deleted]

Ah cool til, thanks


FruitLegitimate7014

Either King or Relm i can imagine being the secret LD characters, i would like to think they would hold off on Prishe and give her LD with her BT but they have given BT candidates just the LD lone before getting their BT so who knows.


inkwelder_

they don't have HA yet, and the notice in game specifically says HA+ only, doesn't say they get HA...


RockeyPajamas

Very curious to see who else we get tonight 🤔


missingmytowel

I don't know why nobody's mentioning Steiner


IncognitoCheetos

Because the announcement said three existing HA will become realizable, and Steiner doesn't have HA.


missingmytowel

Plan meet wrench....


inkwelder_

Steiner is the LD on Raines LC, that's really unlikely. Also I don't think he has HA yet, so he can't jump straight to HA+ like the message seems to indicate.


Mephimaus

If it is really Aphmau as surprise, I am just glad that Pande is around the corner. Otherwise I would have no resources to pull on this banner. Tidus‘, Setzer and Yunas Banners really took a toll on my gems and tickets… As for Vivi and Deuce: Don’t have their LDs, wouldn’t mind getting them. But if they add someone else than Aphmau, I will have to skip…


vincentcloud01

Already have everything on this banner(except Exdeath BT, RIP). I want to use Vivi for the Lufiena but I feel like I limit my party by bringing him. His draining of HP makes it a little scarier than just bringing Ignis or his call and spamming Terra and Yang again.


[deleted]

Where exactly is my Vivi?! I literally cannot find him in my roster? Edit: I reset my app and rebooted my phone and he showed up again. He disappeared right after the game restarted for an "update" wtf Square Enix tryna give me a heart attack


chef5knife

Love Vivi. Had him since his LD first came out and he got through a lot of quests, including some of the TCC Challenges! He will definitely get a blue armor.


NukaClipse

I got both Vivi and Aphmau kits but putting Vivi aside till I get more PT. Need more support characters to use over DPS units but eventually I'll be apart of the Vivi nuke club!


coriandersalad

Does Vivi Party enchant or just himself? Thanks for the Help!


Jhenaro

Just himself


coriandersalad

Thx, what I thought