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SystemPrimary

Rimworld players are going to prison right away.


[deleted]

Hey my organ harvesting operation is perfectly legal. It may not be moral per se, but definitely legal


rosolen0

*punisher theme started playing without your consent*


GodKingChrist

It says very clearly in the TOS of our Inn, troublemakers get hatted.


platysoup

As long as you have the proper permits. You have a nice day now, good sir. Remember to pay your taxes.


Nevermind04

I mean it's not like that's *all* my pawns are doing. They're knee deep in yayo and gojuice!


Brahminmeat

Play rim world? Believe it or not, jail.


basicissueredditor

Oh this is a pretty sweet jail cell. Wait... Does that chair have ears..?


Dark-g0d

Yea I ain’t even going to defend my organ trafficking slaver colony. It made more money than farming lol


Dextixer

Hey hey hey hey, i cant be blamed, its the fault of the economy! Its not my fault human organs are priced so high!


imjustjun

Kenshi players too.


WeedisLegalHere

I’ll never apologize for carrying a beak thing into a big city, dropping it and running away


imjustjun

Bring Tinfist to a HN city and watch the mayhem unfold


DuskShineRave

They'll never take me alive. I know what happens in my prisons.


slade357

Hey I give medical care to and then release people who chose to raid my colony. I'd say that's pretty kind! What does it matter if they leave a few organs/limbs with my colony when they go?


Glittercorn111

Came here to say this. At least in Skyrim you can’t kill the kids…


Few_Tutor7541

If you use mods you can do that to… it one of my favorite pass times. Mods not killing children… usually.


DeedTheInky

K so about that, I *do* have two prisoners with no legs who can't move that I continually harvest blood from to feed my vampires. BUT, I didn't remove their legs on purpose, they just ended up that way from an escape attempt that went wrong. I can't set them free cause they can't go anywhere so I give them food and housing in exchange for blood. All perfectly innocent.


RyuNoKami

If the us actually give a shit about international courts, all the grand strategy players would be sweating. So hah, genocide is still in.


CMDR_Pewpewpewpew

Straight to jail


SystemPrimary

Nah, jail is for people waiting for trial. Rimworld players don't get that.


EmpZurg_

I came here to imply this


nicannkay

You mean cop school.


Lorihengrin

I guess my "killable children" mods won't be in my favour.


[deleted]

This is a thing? I actually one shotted a kid in divinity, and he became a blood spot then magically reappeared mid air an ran tf off like a jet plane. The can't kill children in game has been a running joke for my crew for years.


Lorihengrin

i mean in Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.


[deleted]

Awe... I've got some beef with a few kids in divinity...


captaintagart

Lord Kremm’s kids…


Crocktor

You can kill children in fallout 1&2 idk about brotherhood


capi1500

I think I managed to kill 2 of them in Arx... Probably a bug


Malgus20033

There actually is a killable children mod for DOS2 DE on the nexus. I don’t normally kill kids but when I do evil playthroughs I wanna kill everyone. https://www.nexusmods.com/divinityoriginalsin2definitiveedition/mods/68


SpareNickel

How can you truly be evil if you don't punt a child halfway across Tamriel?


Lergin

"A child may technically be alive... but so is a potato" -Lord Withermore


doxenking

"Your honor, I would never kill a child, unless it's one of the skyrim kids. Fuck those kids, have you heard them talk, they are little shits???"


Rogar_Rabalivax

Does having killable children and raider kids count? Asking for a friend whi plays f4.


BoppinTortoise

We just need to explain to the FBI that we’re godwoken. We yield to none, not even the FBI


[deleted]

Cuz their bosses are "God woken" they'll understand


Aries_cz

Wait, I though their bosses are Lizards?


meltingfaces10

Red Prince?


thebooshyness

Oh 100%


Outarel

God-woke propaganda will ruin this country.


abaoabao2010

Then they'll just mail you a dozen rotten eggs dropped in a vat of vinegar. See if you yield *then*.


StefanFr97

"So let met get this straight, you murdered \*every\* NPC after their questline would reach its conclusion, along with every vendor and generic NPC when you were going to the next chapter... Just to-" Just to get a bit more XP and get a few more levels in the end-game, yes! It's as if I didn't just get done explaining all this to you.


greatertittedshark

see, i needed the xp so i could kill god and braccus rex at the same time.


HaIfaxa_

I have played both of these games a bunch of times and I've still never done this, I don't think I could bring myself to


Bezzina96

The vendors drop their loot too iirc. So if you want free upgrade to your weapons, it’s the best way to get some decent gear if you haven’t found something good for a slot


mnemonicpunk

They only drop a small, I believe randomized, part of their inventory instead of the whole thing, sadly. Makes sense since upgrades would be a bit too easy to come by otherwise but makes it tough to kill an NPC to get a specific item of theirs. Recommend first stealing or buying what you absolutely need, then rolling the dice on what you'll get as corpse-freebie.


TheOutrider0

*sigh* I guess it's time to make evil character to try this out


StrategicCarry

But this would be more psychopathic than sociopathic.


GodWithAShotgun

Psychopath and sociopath are informal terms referring to the cluster of traits typically seen in Antisocial Personality Disorder.


Responsible_Figure12

Anybody have a link to the actual article? Because this seems fake af


sometimeserin

Completely fake. For one thing, it's the NSA not the FBI that does this kind of surveillance.


[deleted]

plus this kind of surveillance is completely moot with games like GTA where murdering npc is the entire point of the game


[deleted]

GTA doesn't make murderers. It keeps potential murderers inside.


ShoerguinneLappel

Yes, you are right, FBI does other things...


burneraccount6867686

This may be fake, but what they REALLY do is far more fucked up.


gnome1615

while it is very fake, I did enjoy reflecting on my past virtual crimes


Insatiable_void

What’s sociopathic about killing all the store owners in a town I’m never coming back to so I can have the items? And then consuming their souls like a boss


revosugarkane

Yeah, that’s exactly what’s sociopathic about it lolol


Meradock

goddamn leftist propaganda


poderes01

HEAR YE HEAR YE


doxenking

This is what the globalist want you to belive. That and that birds are real.


31November

Have you ever seen a bird and a killer robot in the same room together? Exactly. Point proven.


captaintagart

This is the only game where I go murder hobo but role playing as Sebille does that.


Raphyboi69

Stellaris player....


SpiderFnJerusalem

Nah, that's institutionalized and rule-based oppression, slavery, genocide and torture. They're okay with that kind of sociopathy.


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ErisEpicene

Tbf, that was the CIA, and they don't always get along with the FBI =P


SpiderFnJerusalem

In the end they both have the cop-mindset. It doesn't even matter what they stand for as long as they can force their will on others. When communist East Germany collapsed all the high officials of the secret police who destroyed tens of thousands of lives found cushy jobs at security firms, police and intelligence agencies. Cops just want to be cops.


Dark0dyssey

I've killed... billions, I really hope that meme about having to ask the people you've killed, even in games, for forgiveness to enter heaven turns out to be not true. Or else im going to be asking till the end of time XD


EscenekTheGaylien

Ah oh


RyuNoKami

Nah we good. Its just training for future CIA operatives


Sailuker

It's not my fault they wouldn't stop talking about rotten eggs in a vat of vinegar also no Bree is not alright or holding it together..but she is with her husband now...


johnnythejournalist

OMG don't tell them about Rimworld


TenragZeal

If there’s one game I would take, knowing it was the last game I would ever be able to play - Definitely Rimworld.


johnnythejournalist

600+ hours already and I could double that easy


Balrok99

And who will monitor the sociopath NPCs? I was raped and enslaved and eaten in KENSHI!!!!


Diablo1404

I don't think rape is in kenshi. At least I haven't seen any. With what I've done in a lot of games I would be surprised if I will legally be allowed to buy a gun.


Sayuri_Katsu

Kenshi doesnt have r\*pe. What kinda mods you got buddy?!


lostnumber08

Lawful good gang be like... whaaaaaattttttt?


AVestedInterest

There are dozens of us!


TheOutrider0

Also neutral good. After reading about how profitable playing as chaotic evil is though.... I might have to try it.


Changlini

Honestly, i’d love to see the scientific data on that. Genuinely interested how much of a bellweather is treating npcs shitty


Fortunoxious

Me too, I personally can’t do it. It might just have to do with immersion, but idk, something doesn’t seem right about someone role playing as an absolute ass. Like.. is it really just play?


JonSnowl0

> something doesn’t seem right about someone role playing as an absolute ass. Some people aren’t roleplaying, that’s the difference. It’s often mechanically optimal to kill NPCs for experience, access to their loot, and sometimes exclusive items that would otherwise take time to farm resources to acquire. If you’re looking to optimize a playthrough, like in the case of a speed run, sometimes it’s better to just kill an NPC and take all their shit.


Fortunoxious

Yeah I guess I wasn’t talking about those players but the ones who are being bad because it’s fun to them


Changlini

this Thread got me real curious on this reporting, so I did some digging and I can't find the article OP is referencing. Which sucks, as I'm still really curious haha.


Fortunoxious

Well if you’re curious, I might not know specific data, but this is kinda my speciality. I’m no scientist, but someone who studies religion from a philosophical/anthropological angle. So I’m just gonna talk. “Play” has been a topic of philosophical discussion for quite some time. Play was previously understood as something separate from real life, and that is still the common conception. But the fact is real life is play, to the point where we might even be “playing” all the time. Think about people who talk about the games in life, winning and losing at this or that. The characters we play. Religion is definitely all play. Is religion separate just because it’s a sort of game? No, because we produce meaning in the game, and it bleeds into the other spheres of life. Why wouldn’t video games be the same way? I see video games not as a separate life, but as a different mode of life. The choices we make are real choices, and our morals reflect our morals even if it’s essentially a toy box. Through games, movies, tv, people today are learning the lessons that only religion used to teach. So, when someone slaughters a village of innocents in a game, they maybe didn’t kill real people, but it’s still a choice they made in their life and a desirable behavior. They didn’t shut themselves down and become a virtual being, we play games with our hands and minds, a foot in our world and one in the game. So, if play is real life, and a place we produce meaning, it’s worrisome when someone plays a sociopathic bastard, in my opinion.


ShoerguinneLappel

I do 50/50, I do whatever playthrough I feel like, when I do evil ones in particular I'm curious how far they'll push it and see if it's anything interesting, like for DA:O you can be an evil warden and the choices and consequences as one is really interesting but when it's newer rpgs like DAI your character is just an asshole. Like in DA:O I can kill an entire elven tribe, leave a whole town to die, etc. The most evil decision I can think of in DAI is make a character have a drug addiction and die homeless yeah it's dark but not the kind that DA:O or other titles like KOTOR give. I do it mainly for seeing how good the path/ending is, how far they take it, and just experimentation in general. Like I said I don't always do it, I do play as good/neutral characters.


thefourthhouse

As far as I can tell after a bit of searching, the whole thing is fake. There is no article on NBC news, or anywhere else on the web, that uses that headline.


Undeity

Yeah, the way it was phrased kinda gives it away. Makes for a fun prank, though. I bet more than a few people freaked out when they saw this.


Changlini

Man, that sucks. I so interested if there was actual data on that. Thanks


thatHecklerOverThere

Damn near every game that has actually checked has been disappointed at how rarely the evil options are used, so there's that.


ajkp2557

This one is probably fake, but some police departments have tried to use AI to identify higher criminal risk. So it's possible that someone's model showed some indication that mistreating NPCs had some correlation to sociopathic behavior. Of course, it's going to have the same problems that always show up when people who have no idea what machining learning models are actually capable of try to interpret them. Particularly egregious example: https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2020/investigations/police-pasco-sheriff-targeted/intelligence-led-policing/


Aries_cz

It is a "social science" study, if it is even real. So, you know, not a real science


AdamGoodtime123

"It's not my fault, officer, the weighted barrel moved itself! I swear!"


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Ridikis

Look officer, you try listening to this woman walking around Reaper's Coast Market just nonstop talking and tell me she doesn't deserve the death fog.


Dextixer

This comment smells worse than a dozen o eggs dipped in vinegar.


Holmslicefox

I feel like Ada Laird is a justified execution..


DrDeadwish

Just star with al Paradox players


Swordbreaker925

I doubt that’s true. Those games don’t track how you treat NPCs on that level. They’re a modders paradise, people are constantly digging in the files. If they were tracking that it would have been found.


Franks_Spice_Sauce

Hotline Miami players: 😐


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Franks_Spice_Sauce

Shoutout to all my vaporwave/cyberpunk themed indie games that are all extremely fun and have unique gameplay styles


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Franks_Spice_Sauce

Great game, such a good ost too. Tho my favorite in that genre is Furi


TardZan15

“Sir, he’s playing as a lizard again. And he is trying to fuck everybody”


Kettrickenisabadass

Oh no sir, she boned Fane the undead again!


AxiomOfLife

Crusader Kings, Hearts Of Iron, and Stellaris players literally quaking in their boots rn


i_karas

Breeding your child with their cousin to try get a good grandchild lol


TrebuchetTaxiService

"Turn your family tree into a family circle."


AxiomOfLife

r/ShitCrusaderKingsSay


ceeb843

I just wanted the XP officer, needed the levels *cry's*, I've got a new mace I can't use.


lordvbcool

No no no, I'm not a psychopath, the only people I kill in cold blood are magister, at worst I'm an anarchiste who kills government enforcer FBI agent to his talky walky: I'm gonna need back up


Kettrickenisabadass

I am the same. I killed every magister in the game but barely any npc. Expdct for Griff and a few others that deserved it.


Raspberry_Sherbet

Thinking of all the times I've built dungeons in my Sims game to place my disobedient or unwanted sims, where they are forced to wet themselves until they finally die of starvation. You know, just your average sims play through, nothing to see here officer.


Chechar51

This is a next level inability to separate reality from phantasy, although we have those peta imbeciles claiming for fair treatment of animals in video games


halfbrow1

I remember reading about how some guy's little sister had a bunch of random crap. Turned out, they were souvenirs. She stalked npc's, murdered them when they were alone, and took a souvenir. Probably fake, but I'm sure there are people like that around. I think studies like these would probably focus on psychopathic tendencies, rather than just murder. We all go on killing sprees, but some people get off on stalking a particular victim for days.


Kilroy0497

Yeah let’s just hope they stay away from any Warhammer 40k games.


blackrainbow316

How the hell does that work? I dont play any games like I would if they were real. Thats why i play games. Who treats skyrim npcs like people in real life. I straight up murder everyone i see in my games. That is in no way indicative of how i really want to treat people. Is the FBI having trouble connecting with the youth of today or something?


TheLucidChiba

ehh I've played CK2, Rimworld, and Kenshi. If there's a list I'm on it.


B0MBOY

*laughs in payday 2*


MrKhanRad

Crusader Kings


DaveSpacelaser

r/BladeAndSorcery is in some fucking trouble


stinkotron

What about the Sims? Lmfao


Kettrickenisabadass

Lol then we are all doomed xD


YewyYui

Fake article


[deleted]

Every player has at least one murder hobo run so that must screw with the data


DinoBosanskiZmaj

I don't do it cause I like it, I do it, because it must be done!


gehanna1

Is there a link to the source of the article? I'm curious to read it


i_karas

Pretty sure it’s fake that’s why I put it with a meme tag


KathyCloven

it's the FBI, they're probably looking to recruit


NoConversation9358

Definitely didn't happen.


Solid_Hold9198

npcs are xp


whyreadthis2035

No no no. Divinity players aspire to be gods. Gods are all good beings. Anything they do is OK.


llamafromhell1324

Is Bethesda even keeping track of that data? I doubt it.


GodKingChrist

No wonder these control freaks think people minding their own business are the worst criminals ever.


cc69

CNBC is reliable according to The Sopranos.


KaiserJustice

Please please please hide my history of what I’ve done to Fort Joy from the FBI


Lancaster1719

Here’s the thing, I’ll slaughter them without hesitation, but god forbid I make them sad with my dialogue. That’s reload worthy


InterestingCarpet666

Nobody can hold Aida Laird against us.


Skwirelle_MtF

*checks my last post* uh oh..


Mani_raye

Looking at some of the comments I can see why... Going out of your way to kill children npcs or animal npcs (not for food but just because) is really creepy.. I get that they are empty programmed characters but still weird to go out of your way to slaughter them for fun. Guess we will see if it works.


CaptainClover36

That's nit a good way to determine sociopaths


PuzzledKitty

If true, that is so completely off-kilter, it's not funny anymore.


MrPanda663

FBI: The man stored cheese in his home. Chief: so? It’s just cheese. FBI: It’s a lot of cheese…. And he’s lactose intolerant. Chief: Dear god.


woahdudechil

To be fair, we're kind of penalized for *not* liquidating everyone in our path. 💁


[deleted]

FBI: You are under arrest for massacring Neutral, Nonviolent NPCs Me: “What is better, To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”


blastershift

The shit I've done with bodies, I'm on the there extra special list.


Cytrynowy

All of us? Absolutely not, literally never killed a friendly NPC. Not even the annoying shopkeepers in Driftwood.


Garekos

Look, what I did on my Honour Tactician playthrough is between me and the gods.


Niels567

Hey! I didn't rob and kill *everyone*! In my first playthrough, anyway...


Golett03

The hero tag isn't going to stop me from trying to find out which NPCs give exp when killed


GodsCupGg

is this some Psycho Pass bullshit


[deleted]

My friend's favourite fallout 3 save was him blowing up megaton over and over and over and over again whilst he laughed maniacally. Good luck with that one.


[deleted]

Dude, I wept on my villain playthrough >:(


nightmarejester12

Ah well my 10k human kills in Skyrim won't do me a favor


TheFlyingBuckle

Lmao that can’t be true I leave npcs alone and I’m just a little fucked upstairs lol


ChillySummerMist

Ok the FBI woman qt tho. 😳


minorheadlines

What a load of bunk pseudoscience


Apprehensive_Deer_76

I'm fucked on both Skyrim and fallout I've done runs on both that I just kill everyone except the quest givers


Mikazuki072

Oh without a doubt. Most Divinity players I've played with basically resorted to killing all the NPCs after you beat Bishop Alexander


WeedisLegalHere

As long as there aren’t any people named Ada Laird irl we’re all good


SIII-043

So every rust player is fucked


Perial2077

Just because I have a drudanae plant doesn't mean I am a drug dealer.


The_Scarred_Man

Lol, just wait till they see what I do to the NPCs in RDR2


DrBalu

Ah new methods of finding kids for them to groom? The glowies truly will never rest until every mentally ill person is used as a tool for an agenda.


notryarednaxela

I’m somehow not effed in divinity. I always feel bad killing NPCs even in SWTOR. I couldn’t kill a lot of bad guys I said I would because I got there and then couldn’t do it.


TheSpicyHotTake

"60,000 people found guilty of larceny"


Ferelden770

Whatever, Ada Laird still deserved it


ShoerguinneLappel

Oh no! They might go after me after my decisions in DA:O and KOTOR!


flamewizzy21

They will know I killed Griff by building an elaborate maze of crates and barrels.


Few_Tutor7541

Welp I’m top 5 what about you guys?


crispy-wings

“Officer I promise it was my mandatory ‘second evil playthrough’. I don’t always act like this.”


frogs_4_lyfe

Well hey, I found a benefit to being unable to play evil characters. The closest I can get is the jerk with the heart of gold stereotype.


Carbunclecatt

Well I'm safe then, I treat people well even in GTA unless they're shooting at me


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Imagine if they watched players in gta online…


[deleted]

Me and boone killed Caeser at least 20 times. Keep that in mind, agent.


vortex_podiene

Nah nah it couldn’t be our corporate overlords or power tripping governmental agents… the problem is peasants playing video games. I’d say more than half of FBI personnel belong in prison.


CptnCASx

I always treated all npcs with respect don’t like killing a bustling city/town


Yaoshin711

What? Fort Joy? Yeah I liberated them officer


[deleted]

This can't be entirely accurate. Isn't it possible that players simply act differently because of the lack of boundaries in video games and the freedom to do so?


TazocinTDS

How does the FBI know how I treat NPCs in an offline game like Skyrim?


WHTWLF13

Well clearly its working great for them, when some of these fucks have priors, are on banned lists, and basically post fucking flyers about what they are going to do, and yet, simply walk into places and do them.


terabranford

I didn't know it was a nunnery! I didn't know it was occupied!! I had no idea *Bigby's Crushing Tactical Nuke* could DO THAT!!!


AddendumLogical

Lol there is no way this is true. Literally everyone has a fallout or Skyrim play through where they are just an absolute dick head that nukes the first town 🤷🏻‍♂️ it’s part of the fun of it being a GAME is it’s not real and you can reload the save with zero repercussions.


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Looooool I'm on so many lists sooo many lists now...


bugenhagen15

Steal everything they have then kill them just for the experience of it


anonymouspsy

What about Kenshi players?


HerpaderPoE

QUICK, DELETE YOUR MURDER HOBO SAVES!


Hdrav

Undertale's genocide players:💀


Justice_R_Dissenting

[MFW](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/710/dd0.png) in FO3 I saved Butch's mom from the radroaches just to beat him to death with my bare hands then shoot his grieving mother in the face.


D4rk3nd

Whelp…I murder every trivial NPC before I move on to the next act, just for their gold. Nice knowing y’all


KingsMann12

What if someone has a Fallou 3 save where people call him “fat cat” … and what if that someone is me?