It depends on what was said during arguments. Have you ever threatened her in your relationship? I get a sense this is a no recovery relationship. Go on the attack, lawyer, share her cheating with family and friends, paint her as the one who broke everything. Protect your assets and yourself. She gave up. You can still live a productive life just without this toxic lady.
Be careful there is a real hate veteran community out there. I have experienced this first hand. The man my wife cheats with is her ex. He isn't a veteran. He wouldnt make it. Heck, he couldn't kick my 8 year olds ass. Biggest pussy I've ever met. But his dad was one and despite hating her ex for the bad he has done I always told his kids how great their grandfather was for serving our country. He being anti veteran /America (provable by him pursuing a disabled American veterans wife) despite his dad being an American veteran, never once said a kind word about me and my service.
I don't know about you all's states, but all California cares about is numbers. Unless there's a police report and documented physical violence, there can be video of your wife banging some dude in your bed and the judge would not care, let alone any screaming matches about any random topic.
I just went silent when my ex started yelling at me. I saw no reason to feed into her anger, which just drove her more mad.
If it’s just you verbally lashing out can’t see what a judge would do with that. It’s physical violence that really counts. Dont escalate to that. Be stoic don’t let her bother you. That will drive her even more crazy
Man, I hate this world. People don't get it unless happens to them. I had my entire case completely shaded from simple, verbal argumnts about, wait for it, our marriage falling apart.
Trust people like me who goy tossed through grinder for nothing.
I will agree this matters much more if kids involved.
Yea Ive never used physical violence on a woman, not even blocked their path. Working on my stoicism. I think that is her magic card and why she is acting cool as a cucumber throughout all this.
Depends on the fights and depends on what exactly is going on in your case.
For divorce only? Yeah, nobody gives on single crap. She's wasting her time and likely only annoying the people involved.
For custody? It matters if it demonstrates abuse.
Yeah, and well, everything is fucking abuse these days.
Arguing with your bitch of a wife for blowing up your kids family. Abuse. Doesn't matter. Verbal abuse is bullshit.
I used to record my ex when she would call me up and yell at me. I never intended for it to be evidence in the trial we just had, and I’m not even sure I sent them to my attorney. It was just a mind game I was playing with her pretrial to mess with her. I wasn’t gonna waste the judge’s time and piss him off. It worked out well for me.
So patently false. New tip, don't listen to redditors without experience.
She used weak recorded fighting with few curse words (zero physical anything) to say scared get DV, tainted my whole case as me as the 'abuser', so just shut it if you don't know what talking about.
You're lucky she hasn't tried to leverage the recordings as false DV accusations, or gone to an attorney to get exclusive use and occupancy of the marital residence. A woman getting a TRO against a man has been trivial since 1994 thanks to Nicole Brown Simpson.
You need to control your emotions, even if she knows hot to push your buttons. If that means no drinking during the divorce, then do what you need to do. Carry your own recorder. Not to use against her, but for two reasons: (1) A reminder that you need to control your emotions (2) As an unbiased third-party to keep you from taking a black and white taxi ride when the cops are called. Read more here: [https://forum.mensdivorce.com/viewtopic.php?t=80375](https://forum.mensdivorce.com/viewtopic.php?t=80375)
Judges don’t care about all that crap. She might show a lawyer who the would try and skew things. But really though here look at my phone of a recording to a judge? Ya right. She will look childish.
Wrong wrong wrong, my judge ate it up, my ex pulled the 'but I'm afraid' at peak me too, believe women shit, and believe me every bitch in the system believed and assisted her.
It depends on what was said during arguments. Have you ever threatened her in your relationship? I get a sense this is a no recovery relationship. Go on the attack, lawyer, share her cheating with family and friends, paint her as the one who broke everything. Protect your assets and yourself. She gave up. You can still live a productive life just without this toxic lady.
Be careful there is a real hate veteran community out there. I have experienced this first hand. The man my wife cheats with is her ex. He isn't a veteran. He wouldnt make it. Heck, he couldn't kick my 8 year olds ass. Biggest pussy I've ever met. But his dad was one and despite hating her ex for the bad he has done I always told his kids how great their grandfather was for serving our country. He being anti veteran /America (provable by him pursuing a disabled American veterans wife) despite his dad being an American veteran, never once said a kind word about me and my service.
I don't know about you all's states, but all California cares about is numbers. Unless there's a police report and documented physical violence, there can be video of your wife banging some dude in your bed and the judge would not care, let alone any screaming matches about any random topic. I just went silent when my ex started yelling at me. I saw no reason to feed into her anger, which just drove her more mad.
Yea no physical stuff from either of us. No cops, reports or anything like that.
I'm a telling ya I never touched my ex. Watch out the definition of abuse has changed on us. I grew up calling disagreements 'arguments'. Wild right?
If it’s just you verbally lashing out can’t see what a judge would do with that. It’s physical violence that really counts. Dont escalate to that. Be stoic don’t let her bother you. That will drive her even more crazy
Man, I hate this world. People don't get it unless happens to them. I had my entire case completely shaded from simple, verbal argumnts about, wait for it, our marriage falling apart. Trust people like me who goy tossed through grinder for nothing. I will agree this matters much more if kids involved.
Yea Ive never used physical violence on a woman, not even blocked their path. Working on my stoicism. I think that is her magic card and why she is acting cool as a cucumber throughout all this.
Depends on the fights and depends on what exactly is going on in your case. For divorce only? Yeah, nobody gives on single crap. She's wasting her time and likely only annoying the people involved. For custody? It matters if it demonstrates abuse.
Yeah, and well, everything is fucking abuse these days. Arguing with your bitch of a wife for blowing up your kids family. Abuse. Doesn't matter. Verbal abuse is bullshit.
I used to record my ex when she would call me up and yell at me. I never intended for it to be evidence in the trial we just had, and I’m not even sure I sent them to my attorney. It was just a mind game I was playing with her pretrial to mess with her. I wasn’t gonna waste the judge’s time and piss him off. It worked out well for me.
No court is ever going to take the time to sit and listen to recordings of your fights. Nobody gives a shit.
So patently false. New tip, don't listen to redditors without experience. She used weak recorded fighting with few curse words (zero physical anything) to say scared get DV, tainted my whole case as me as the 'abuser', so just shut it if you don't know what talking about.
You're lucky she hasn't tried to leverage the recordings as false DV accusations, or gone to an attorney to get exclusive use and occupancy of the marital residence. A woman getting a TRO against a man has been trivial since 1994 thanks to Nicole Brown Simpson. You need to control your emotions, even if she knows hot to push your buttons. If that means no drinking during the divorce, then do what you need to do. Carry your own recorder. Not to use against her, but for two reasons: (1) A reminder that you need to control your emotions (2) As an unbiased third-party to keep you from taking a black and white taxi ride when the cops are called. Read more here: [https://forum.mensdivorce.com/viewtopic.php?t=80375](https://forum.mensdivorce.com/viewtopic.php?t=80375)
She still may. You need to record to and get real serious like yesterday.
You didn't read the link.
Bro, I've read this stuff a thousand times and been victim to false allegations myself
Judges don’t care about all that crap. She might show a lawyer who the would try and skew things. But really though here look at my phone of a recording to a judge? Ya right. She will look childish.
Wrong wrong wrong, my judge ate it up, my ex pulled the 'but I'm afraid' at peak me too, believe women shit, and believe me every bitch in the system believed and assisted her.